Ah well, my disappointment is softened by the fact I didn't stick Casey in my fantasy team and one of my first round leader bets, might give me something back, Matthew Baldwin at 80/1, currently in a 5 way lead for 2nd.
Don't think there is anything left to jinx, so I can safely say my other first round leader bets were Lee Slattery, Brett Rumford and Kiradech Aphibarnrat.
It look's like Louis has brought his A game this week, long way to go I know, but the others could already be playing for a place.
Looking forwards to New Orleans, I see from Jackda's post that the Racing Post have tipped Graham DeLaet, just saying
Ah well, my disappointment is softened by the fact I didn't stick Casey in my fantasy team and one of my first round leader bets, might give me something back, Matthew Baldwin at 80/1, currently in a 5 way lead for 2nd. Don't think there is anything left to jinx, so I can safely say my other first round leader bets were Lee Slattery, Brett Rumford and Kiradech Aphibarnrat. It look's like Louis has brought his A game this week, long way to go I know, but the others could already be playing for a place. Looking forwards to New Orleans, I see from Jackda's post that the Racing Post have tipped Graham DeLaet, just saying Posted by TheDart
Get in there!
The messageboard curse strikes again, after playing a flawless back 9, I post that and Louis goes and bogey's the 10th!
Five of my ten fantasy picks look like missing the cut. Inc my 3 bets. Knew it was gonna be a good day when my 1st round leader bet double bogied his 1st, before I turned my iPad off last night. Worse still, I'm in the less than 1% camp of total players who have left Louis out of their fantasy team.
My 1st round leader bets are dead so I may as well say who I had. Aphibarnrat, Casey and Maybin. Isn't Oosthuizen doing well!? I worked out before the event, if he wins he should go 1st in the R2D. Good for my season long bet! Just need Dustin or Snedds to overtake Tiger.... How hard can it be??!! Posted by FlashFlush
What is your season long bet if you dont mind me asking?
Ah well, my disappointment is softened by the fact I didn't stick Casey in my fantasy team and one of my first round leader bets, might give me something back, Matthew Baldwin at 80/1, currently in a 5 way lead for 2nd. Don't think there is anything left to jinx, so I can safely say my other first round leader bets were Lee Slattery, Brett Rumford and Kiradech Aphibarnrat. It look's like Louis has brought his A game this week, long way to go I know, but the others could already be playing for a place. Looking forwards to New Orleans, I see from Jackda's post that the Racing Post have tipped Graham DeLaet, just saying Posted by TheDart
Hopefully he goes well because I put him on my zurich team yesterday after jacobson pulled out
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : What is your season long bet if you dont mind me asking? Posted by jdsallstar
Oosthuizen to win the R2D money list doubled up with Brandt Snedeker or Dustin Johnson to win the PGA tour money list (excl. the $10m FedEx bonus)
Ah well, my disappointment is softened by the fact I didn't stick Casey in my fantasy team and one of my first round leader bets, might give me something back, Matthew Baldwin at 80/1, currently in a 5 way lead for 2nd. Don't think there is anything left to jinx, so I can safely say my other first round leader bets were Lee Slattery, Brett Rumford and Kiradech Aphibarnrat. It look's like Louis has brought his A game this week, long way to go I know, but the others could already be playing for a place. Looking forwards to New Orleans, I see from Jackda's post that the Racing Post have tipped Graham DeLaet, just saying Posted by TheDart
Just noticed baldwin is tied 1st now with louis dropping to -5. Louis could well go on to leapfrog them all but out of interest, aassuming he remains in 5 way tie for first, how do they work out your winnings?
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Oosthuizen to win the R2D money list doubled up with Brandt Snedeker or Dustin Johnson to win the PGA tour money list (excl. the $10m FedEx bonus) Posted by FlashFlush
Sounds good!! Fingers crossed tigers knee goes pop again lol
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Just noticed baldwin is tied 1st now with louis dropping to -5. Louis could well go on to leapfrog them all but out of interest, aassuming he remains in 5 way tie for first, how do they work out your winnings? Posted by jdsallstar
Basically, the 'winnings' take a right hammering.
Currently there are 5 players tied for the lead, if it finished that way, my 80/1 shot would become 80/1 divide by 5 giving me a 16 /1 winner.
With Louis one behind and still 2 par 5's to play I can see him at least joining the leaders, so then the returns are reduced further.
Same applies to the place side of the bet if there are more than 5 players finishing in the top 5, the odds are reduced accordingly.
That's what I don't like about first round betting, its very difficult to pick a winning bet and when you do it's very difficult to get the full returns back.
That hasn't stopped me having a go at New Orleans though.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Basically, the 'wiinings' take a right hammering. Currently there are 5 players tied for the lead, if it finished that way, my 80/1 shot would become 80/1 divide by 5 giving me a 16 /1 winner. With Louis one behind and still 2 par 5's to play I can see him at least joining the leaders, so then the returns are reduced further. Same applies to the place side of the bet if there are more than 5 players finishing in the top 5, the odds are reduced accordingly. That's what I don't like about first round betting, its very difficult to pick a winning bet and when you do it's very difficult to get the full returns back. That hasn't stopped me having a go at New Orleans though. Posted by TheDart
cheers dart. so your place bet in this instance will give you more than your winning bet i.e.
Win bet: 80/1 divided by 5 = 16/1 Place bet: 80/1 divided by 4 = 20/1
still assuuming louis doesnt join the leaders in which case it would 20/1 divided by 6 multiplied by 5.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : cheers dart. so your place bet in this instance will give you more than your winning bet i.e. Win bet: 80/1 divided by 5 = 16/1 Place bet: 80/1 divided by 4 = 20/1 still assuuming louis doesnt join the leaders in which case it would 20/1 divided by 6 multiplied by 5. That correct? lol Posted by jdsallstar
Lol, hadn't thought of that myself, but yes I think you are right, if it stay's the same I'd win more for the place than the win, doesn't seem right does it?
I'm not 100% sure, so I hope it does stay as it is, at least to understand the 'dead heat' rules more clearly.
edit: yes I believe that's how they calculate the place odds as well.
Looks like we will have to wait until tomorrow and Tommy Fleetwood and Louis, could get in on at least -5, so there's not going be much left!
I only had £2 ew, so I'm not going to lose much sleep over it, lol.
Sod the messageboard curse, here are my additional bets for the Zurich Classic
Firstly Matt Jones, some may or may not recall I've picked him a couple of times this season and hi-lighted the fact that he had recently achieved low rounds of the day in two tournaments.
Well Matt Jones did it again last week, sharing low round with GMC on day 2, so this week I'm hoping he can achieve another low round of the day and this time on day 1!
Matt Jones - Outright - ew 125/1 Matt Jones - First Round Leader - ew 100/1 Matt Jones - Top Rest of world - ew 20/1 NB. I'll take 2nd to Graham DeLaet in all of these markets
First round Leaders all ew
Graham DeLaet - 80/1 Ryan Palmer - 70/1 Charles Howell III - 50/1 Marcel Siem - 70/1
Pi**ing ****!! I think I've c0cked my bets up again! I think all my 1st round leader bets I've placed are actually tournament winner bets. The worrying thing is I've not only done it wrong for just the 1 tournament I've done it wrong for both again!! Well none of them would of come in at the Ballantines, so that's OK, but I hope 1 of them doesn't have a stonker in New Orleans.
Pi**ing ****!! I think I've c0cked my bets up again! I think all my 1st round leader bets I've placed are actually tournament winner bets. The worrying thing is I've not only done it wrong for just the 1 tournament I've done it wrong for both again!! Well none of them would of come in at the Ballantines, so that's OK, but I hope 1 of them doesn't have a stonker in New Orleans. Signed: Stupid Idiot! Posted by FlashFlush
If it makes you feel any better I did the same with one of my bets I meant to back Ryan Palmer first round leader, when I checked later the bet was for outright, so I've ended up backing him in both markets, which wasn't the plan.
Nearly did it again with my next bet, but just spotted the 'mistake' before I confirmed.
I could have sworn I clicked on the first round leader market as well, so I'm wondering if there's something not quite right with the links to the first round market page?
You never know Flash you might end up with a surprise winner this week.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : If it makes you feel any better I did the same with one of my bets I meant to back Ryan Palmer first round leader, when I checked later the bet was for outright, so I've ended up backing him in both markets, which wasn't the plan. Nearly did it again with my next bet, but just spotted the 'mistake' before I confirmed. I could have sworn I clicked on the first round leader market as well, so I'm wondering if there's something not quite right with the links to the first round market page? You never know Flash you might end up with a surprise winner this week. Posted by TheDart
Even though I've done it 2 weeks running, it's very unlike me to make mistakes like that as well, so maybe, just maybe it wasn't my fault..?? It probably was though, because last week it was with PP and this week it was with Skybet. If it was Skybet both times then I would of questioned it.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : cheers dart. so your place bet in this instance will give you more than your winning bet i.e. Win bet: 80/1 divided by 5 = 16/1 Place bet: 80/1 divided by 4 = 20/1 still assuuming louis doesnt join the leaders in which case it would 20/1 divided by 6 multiplied by 5. That correct? lol Posted by jdsallstar
Hey guys..... I don't want to sound a geek/know all/knob etc.....delete as required (what non deleted? How rude!! Lol).... But u ain't quite 100% right on this one. If its a dead heat, it's the stake divided, not the price. It does make a small difference... And surprise surprise, it's in the bookies favour.
Cheers
A disgruntled punter looking at alternative picks after day 1.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Even though I've done it 2 weeks running, it's very unlike me to make mistakes like that as well, so maybe, just maybe it wasn't my fault..?? It probably was though, because last week it was with PP and this week it was with Skybet. If it was Skybet both times then I would of questioned it. Posted by FlashFlush
Well mine was on a third website, so no obvious fault there, apart from human error and 2 numpty's!
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Hey guys..... I don't want to sound a geek/know all/knob etc.....delete as required (what non deleted? How rude!! Lol).... But u ain't quite 100% right on this one. If its a dead heat, it's the stake divided, not the price. It does make a small difference... And surprise surprise, it's in the bookies favour. Cheers A disgruntled punter looking at alternative picks after day 1. Posted by joesman1
Sounds like you are right, especially when you back it up with 'its in the bookies favour'.
If Baldwin does end up finishing in a tie for the lead, I'll post the question, asking for the first correct answer to how much I got back for my £2 ew.
Good luck with the in running market and better luck in New Orleans.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2013 Season! (Zurich Classic + Ballantines) Year Profit: -102.19pts : Basically, the 'winnings' take a right hammering. Currently there are 5 players tied for the lead, if it finished that way, my 80/1 shot would become 80/1 divide by 5 giving me a 16 /1 winner. With Louis one behind and still 2 par 5's to play I can see him at least joining the leaders, so then the returns are reduced further. Same applies to the place side of the bet if there are more than 5 players finishing in the top 5, the odds are reduced accordingly. That's what I don't like about first round betting, its very difficult to pick a winning bet and when you do it's very difficult to get the full returns back. That hasn't stopped me having a go at New Orleans though. Posted by TheDart
If it stays a 5-way tie for the lead it works out as 40p @ 80/1 for the win part
The place part stays as normal £2 place so £42 quid
So you should get back £74.40
If another player gets to -5 then it gets more complicated
You get 33p @ 80/1 for the win and £1.66 @ 20/1 for the place
The place bit is not divided by 6 and don't let them tell you otherwise(many an argument I've had over this)
This is all assuming it was 1/4 odds 1,2,3,4,5(if not let us know and can recalculate)
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Don't think there is anything left to jinx, so I can safely say my other first round leader bets were Lee Slattery, Brett Rumford and Kiradech Aphibarnrat.
It look's like Louis has brought his A game this week, long way to go I know, but the others could already be playing for a place.
Looking forwards to New Orleans, I see from Jackda's post that the Racing Post have tipped Graham DeLaet, just saying
The messageboard curse strikes again, after playing a flawless back 9, I post that and Louis goes and bogey's the 10th!
Currently there are 5 players tied for the lead, if it finished that way, my 80/1 shot would become 80/1 divide by 5 giving me a 16 /1 winner.
With Louis one behind and still 2 par 5's to play I can see him at least joining the leaders, so then the returns are reduced further.
Same applies to the place side of the bet if there are more than 5 players finishing in the top 5, the odds are reduced accordingly.
That's what I don't like about first round betting, its very difficult to pick a winning bet and when you do it's very difficult to get the full returns back.
That hasn't stopped me having a go at New Orleans though.
Win bet: 80/1 divided by 5 = 16/1
Place bet: 80/1 divided by 4 = 20/1
still assuuming louis doesnt join the leaders in which case it would 20/1 divided by 6 multiplied by 5.
That correct? lol
I'm not 100% sure, so I hope it does stay as it is, at least to understand the 'dead heat' rules more clearly.
edit: yes I believe that's how they calculate the place odds as well.
Looks like we will have to wait until tomorrow and Tommy Fleetwood and Louis, could get in on at least -5, so there's not going be much left!
I only had £2 ew, so I'm not going to lose much sleep over it, lol.
Firstly Matt Jones, some may or may not recall I've picked him a couple of times this season and hi-lighted the fact that he had recently achieved low rounds of the day in two tournaments.
Well Matt Jones did it again last week, sharing low round with GMC on day 2, so this week I'm hoping he can achieve another low round of the day and this time on day 1!
Matt Jones - Outright - ew 125/1
Matt Jones - First Round Leader - ew 100/1
Matt Jones - Top Rest of world - ew 20/1
NB. I'll take 2nd to Graham DeLaet in all of these markets
First round Leaders all ew
Graham DeLaet - 80/1
Ryan Palmer - 70/1
Charles Howell III - 50/1
Marcel Siem - 70/1
Nearly did it again with my next bet, but just spotted the 'mistake' before I confirmed.
I could have sworn I clicked on the first round leader market as well, so I'm wondering if there's something not quite right with the links to the first round market page?
You never know Flash you might end up with a surprise winner this week.
Next time I'll be watching closely for any snags.
If Baldwin does end up finishing in a tie for the lead, I'll post the question, asking for the first correct answer to how much I got back for my £2 ew.
Good luck with the in running market and better luck in New Orleans.