George Coatzee 22/1 and Trevor Fisher Junior 80/1 both ew in S Africa. Gl chaps....... I've sat'd into the UKIPT six-max this w/e.... Hopefully I'm tied up til Mon' night lol..... Posted by joesman1
Just watching the early scores come in, and I noticed an American in the field, so I thought I would have a look. Not seen him before, can't find anything on the PGA tour/Web.com tour (well for this year anyway) I didn't come across him in my pre-tournament research. His name is John Hahn (No not John Huh or James Hahn), he started off par birdie. When I looked for his results, he has just come from the qualifying school. He won his first qualifying phase with 3 rounds in the 60's and a total of -19, then came 5th in the 2nd phase and 7th in the final. He had 1 bad round in the final of 73, his others were 2 66's and a 68. In total, those 3 phases he was in the 60's 11 of those 12 rounds!
I've stuck £2 e/w on him as he was still 125/1 with Sky. No doubt he will fire in a double bogey now on the par 5 13th because I mhave mentioned him. Worth a look though I think.
FWIW .... I'm on Jamieson 50/1 and Fitchardt 40/1 both ew in Africa this week.... Just added Allan Versfeld @ 250/1. Noticed racing Post mentioned him and I backed 2/3 times last season. Posted by joesman1
I could do with a bit of advice this week. Although I do football accas and the golf each week, I'm not really a big gambler, and not really sure what the best way to go this week/this season.
It's all come from Darty's post last week I suppose, going for the Lucky15. Now is that a decent bet? Is it good to spread the bets, maybe pick up one win and rarely or never get the full returns, or am I better off doing what I did last year and putting decent research into the main tours?
This week is different to other weeks, the Nedbank challenge and Tiger's tourney both have very small fields, so a double is much more likely, although the standard is very good. Then there is also the Hong Kong open. A larger field, but a big gap in ability from the top 20 or so to the rest of the field.
I was thinking of going with the follow due to their potential and their odds.
Tiger's jobby - Stricker 16/1 - Spieth 20/1
Nedbank - Bjorn 28/1 - Grace 66/1
Hong Kong - Oleson 20/1 - Pavan 40/1
Do I just stick to single bets? Should I go for the treble? The trouble with picking 2 players in each event, of course the cost goes up....
Anyway, all comments welcome.
EDIT: Much simpler terms, I just realised if I have 1 selection in each I can do a patent. I suppose what I'm really asking, am I better to just do a couple of £1 patents each week or put maybe a £5 bet on a few singles...
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I wouldn't go as far as to say, this is advice Flash, more a sharing of thoughts...
I remember reading another thread a while back where I think it was Vagret that pointed out punters who back Lucky15's and similar are the bookies favourite type of customer as these bets rarely come up.
I believe the serious or professional punter would be mostly backing singles on their strong fancy's.
Take my life changing bet last week:
4 selections - £1 Lucky 15 + £1ew accumulator = £17 invested One winner at 8/1 = £17 returns One winner in 4 picks in the golf is pretty good I reckon, but I didn't make a profit
Now if I'd have had £4win on each pick and a £1win accumulator for the same £17 invested. My one winner at 8/1 would have given me £36 returns, for a £19 proift on the week.
So right there you can see why the Lucky15 wouldn't appeal or make sense to the serious punter.
Two of my other picks finished 3rd and 6th at 20/1 and 28/1 respectively, if either had won, my Lucky 15 would have been the best bet by far.
I was content with £19 less returns this week as I was pretty close to at least a three figure return, so it felt like the Lucky 15 was worth the 'risk'.
I might be stating the obvious but I guess it's down to what ticks your own boxes.
Last week I didn't have a strong fancy for any single player, so I was never going to 'lump on' anybody, the speculative aspect of the Lucky 15 gave me a bit of a buzz, which is great because I bet for entertainment.
For future weeks I think if I have a particular strong fancy in one event I'm going to be focusing on the single, though when both tours are back in full swing, I'm likely to be backing singles and doubles.
If I look at my results this year, my best wins have been as a result of place doubles and that's even when I've backed single winners at prices as big as 80/1 and 100/1.
I'm quite sure your biggest win and Splashies biggest wins this year, came from your Matt Kuchar winning double.
So to me I think it makes sense, to focus on singles and doubles most weeks and weight your bets according to your own hunches and interpretations of the markets.
For me the Lucky 15 and patents should be thrown in every now and then, but not the right type of bet to be having week in week out.
Good Luck with whatever you do and always remember to try and cover yourself against those 'if only' outcomes.
Thanks for taking the time to reply mate. Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking, I think I'd prefer 'regular'(ish) small returns rather than losing all year to get one big win, as by then I expect I would of given up on the long bets and not have any money on it.
I may however do the patent this week for a bit of fun as the odds aren't fantastic due to small fields. I'll try and weight my bets so if any win I make a profit, but also don't bet too much... I'll work on that tomorrow night when I actually have some time!
Howdy lads. No good last week. Bust out just before close of play one Day1. As for golf this week, Schwartzel and Kaymer ew in Sun City. Olsen and Kruger ew in Hong Kong. And Tiger is the last leg of a footy/snooker/horse acca that's worth a good chunk. Gl with your picks
Small win last week thanks to Mr Bjorn. Got to say, that was a cracking last round, Donaldson was playing well and the likes of Bjorn, Schwartzel, Garcia, Stenson all chasing him, he must of been so nervous. Great round of golf by Bjorn though, he never looked in trouble!
Made a bit of an error, because I went for the w/o favourites market so only had him at 14/1 instead of 28/1. Oh well, better than nothing!
Still recovering from Tiger's demise. 1/50 in running to clinch a lovely 50/1 acca. U couldn't make Johnson's chip in up!! Only consolation was that I had a bit of Johnson at 5/1 on the final morning as a cover bet.
This w/e I'm away in New York, I know I know, what a drag!! But I'm doing Flitchard 16/1 win only. Sergio 7/1 win only. And an ew double. Gl everyone.
At the moment I'm just backing 'local boy' Simon Yates in the Thailand Championship.
Given his undoubted talent I've always been fascinated by this guy's attitude to the professional golf world.
You won't find too much information about him out there on t'internet, which probably suits him just fine.
Most recent news and perfect example of his character, was earlier this year, after taking a couple of years off to do his houses up, he declared it was time to go back to work and earn some money, where first tournament back he tied 4th in Thailand alongside reigning champ Chris Wood and finishing well ahead of the likes of Padraig Harrington.
He's 13th on all the All time Asian money list and has competed against and beaten some of the games best despite a somewhat unorthodox attitude to pro golf.
I'm not suggesting he can just turn up and beat the likes of Stenson, Schwartzel and Rose, but if he's even close to his A game, he could well threaten top 10, then again he could jack it in after the first day!
Anyway I'm on Simon Yates at 40/1 for a top 10 finish and ew at 250/1 without the 4 favorites.
Small field and probably a bit of a gamble and depend a lot on who's "in the mood" for this one. So went with:
Spieth @ 22/1 Woodland @ 28/1 Johnson @ 14/1 (£5 free bet on this one)
Only £1 ew on the first two as it's first bet of the season.
Gonna try and keep track on my profit and loss for the golf this year too which I'll try to update on here with each event. That can be my new years resolution lol
Wife would have preferred I quit smoking but hey ho
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I decided to switch my line rental and broadband to get a better deal.
Good news you don't need an engineer to switch, said my welcome letter.
Friday 9.00am my phone line went dead and the broadband went with it.
My new provider assured me, my phone and broadband would be activated by midnight at the very latest.
Three days later an Openreach engineer finally arrives at my home and sorts out the problem, which was in a junction box or something similar situated a few hundred yards for my home.
Actually if I'm honest I quite enjoyed three days of no internet, for me or the family.
I remember reading another thread a while back where I think it was Vagret that pointed out punters who back Lucky15's and similar are the bookies favourite type of customer as these bets rarely come up.
I believe the serious or professional punter would be mostly backing singles on their strong fancy's.
Take my life changing bet last week:
4 selections - £1 Lucky 15 + £1ew accumulator = £17 invested
One winner at 8/1 = £17 returns
One winner in 4 picks in the golf is pretty good I reckon, but I didn't make a profit
Now if I'd have had £4win on each pick and a £1win accumulator for the same £17 invested.
My one winner at 8/1 would have given me £36 returns, for a £19 proift on the week.
So right there you can see why the Lucky15 wouldn't appeal or make sense to the serious punter.
Two of my other picks finished 3rd and 6th at 20/1 and 28/1 respectively, if either had won, my Lucky 15 would have been the best bet by far.
I was content with £19 less returns this week as I was pretty close to at least a three figure return, so it felt like the Lucky 15 was worth the 'risk'.
I might be stating the obvious but I guess it's down to what ticks your own boxes.
Last week I didn't have a strong fancy for any single player, so I was never going to 'lump on' anybody, the speculative aspect of the Lucky 15 gave me a bit of a buzz, which is great because I bet for entertainment.
For future weeks I think if I have a particular strong fancy in one event I'm going to be focusing on the single, though when both tours are back in full swing, I'm likely to be backing singles and doubles.
If I look at my results this year, my best wins have been as a result of place doubles and that's even when I've backed single winners at prices as big as 80/1 and 100/1.
I'm quite sure your biggest win and Splashies biggest wins this year, came from your Matt Kuchar winning double.
So to me I think it makes sense, to focus on singles and doubles most weeks and weight your bets according to your own hunches and interpretations of the markets.
For me the Lucky 15 and patents should be thrown in every now and then, but not the right type of bet to be having week in week out.
Good Luck with whatever you do and always remember to try and cover yourself against those 'if only' outcomes.
£1 Lucky 15
Charl Schwartzel - 6/1
Kiradech Aphibarnrat - 10/1
Marcus Fraser - 18/1
Graeme Mcdowell - 12/1
Anirban Lahri - 50/1
Peter Uilhein - 50/1
ew singles and double
Just seen Peter Uilhein has drifted to 66/1 before he's hit a ball, so not to be beaten by the bookies, I have just added:
Peter Uilhein - 66/1
Hunter Mahan - 25/1
ew singles and double
Good Luck All!!!
See my advice has been repeated. Nothing wrong in doubles , trebles and accumalators. Just dont do as the same stake as your singles.
At the moment I'm just backing 'local boy' Simon Yates in the Thailand Championship.
Given his undoubted talent I've always been fascinated by this guy's attitude to the professional golf world.
You won't find too much information about him out there on t'internet, which probably suits him just fine.
Most recent news and perfect example of his character, was earlier this year, after taking a couple of years off to do his houses up, he declared it was time to go back to work and earn some money, where first tournament back he tied 4th in Thailand alongside reigning champ Chris Wood and finishing well ahead of the likes of Padraig Harrington.
He's 13th on all the All time Asian money list and has competed against and beaten some of the games best despite a somewhat unorthodox attitude to pro golf.
I'm not suggesting he can just turn up and beat the likes of Stenson, Schwartzel and Rose, but if he's even close to his A game, he could well threaten top 10, then again he could jack it in after the first day!
Anyway I'm on Simon Yates at 40/1 for a top 10 finish and ew at 250/1 without the 4 favorites.
Good Luck All
Decided to start my 2014 golf betting off today.
Small field and probably a bit of a gamble and depend a lot on who's "in the mood" for this one. So went with:
Spieth @ 22/1
Woodland @ 28/1
Johnson @ 14/1 (£5 free bet on this one)
Only £1 ew on the first two as it's first bet of the season.
Gonna try and keep track on my profit and loss for the golf this year too which I'll try to update on here with each event. That can be my new years resolution lol
Wife would have preferred I quit smoking but hey ho
So opening balance:
-£4 (£4 in play + £5 free bet).