a couple of things that spring to mind for me in what you say about looking for players with smaller stacks so you can't get stacked yourself. True these are probably weaker players this can also mean that you are constantly getting it in pre in flips or marginal favourites against these stacks ak v 33 aq v j10 sort of thing this can lead to some dis heartening downsings imo. I would look for people that you know you are better than or unknowns with a full stack aswell as the shortys so you can try and get some nice paydays to
AA im getting it in there not feeling great about it but i think it is a must.
KK personally i would raise the flop lead, end result probably the same but whenever we get our opponant to put more money in the pot behind we have to think we are doing something right.
AQ make note of the minbet lead habit with 2 pair so now you can call villian sometimes on river when unsure of where you stand as he is making it dirt cheap. I would prefer a bigger raise on the the turn, try and think of your betting in rlation to the pot rather than his min donk lead. River is close between a flat and a raise for me depending on reads think you have to call his x/shove though seeing as how much you have commited even though you are fairly sure you are behind
Hi Dev Can not give you any advice on you new challenge, as i am not good enough player to comment, just learning as i go. But i do enjoy your posts, and also pick up some tips from your hands and response from them.
So good look and keep going i am sure you get there in the end.
All prettry much standard bad calls and oppo getting lucky at this level.
Wouldn't worry about it too much, make a note of their play as your going to win back so much money of these players long term.
the AQ hand is where your just not listening to the message and maybe just call river message being, min bet/raise line lol Massive differance than someone just min bet/calling, where they are more likey just being a station and trying to get to showdiown as cheap as possible
Probably the most annoying hands you'll see at this level where some calls with K5o and hits 2 pr. The only think you need to consider is, will this player just station off with the worse hand more often than just calling and folding any pair they hit. More often they just do their stack when they hit top pair so,,,, all good in a funny kind of way. Even though at the time your cat is getting a kicking @+_)
Remember poker is really easy when you have the best hand. It's get's more diffcult when you possibly don't have the best hand or your being put to the test. Essentially versus bad players, poker is very easy. So figure out who the good players are )
Hi devon a couple of things that spring to mind for me in what you say about looking for players with smaller stacks so you can't get stacked yourself. True these are probably weaker players this can also mean that you are constantly getting it in pre in flips or marginal favourites against these stacks ak v 33 aq v j10 sort of thing this can lead to some dis heartening downsings imo. I would look for people that you know you are better than or unknowns with a full stack aswell as the shortys so you can try and get some nice paydays to AA im getting it in there not feeling great about it but i think it is a must. KK personally i would raise the flop lead, end result probably the same but whenever we get our opponant to put more money in the pot behind we have to think we are doing something right. AQ make note of the minbet lead habit with 2 pair so now you can call villian sometimes on river when unsure of where you stand as he is making it dirt cheap. I would prefer a bigger raise on the the turn, try and think of your betting in rlation to the pot rather than his min donk lead. River is close between a flat and a raise for me depending on reads think you have to call his x/shove though seeing as how much you have commited even though you are fairly sure you are behind Posted by jams88
hi jams thanks for the advice m8, my heads all over the place atm,trying to take in so much asap. my thinking with attacking the sm stacks seems to make sense,especially if i can raise big against them and get them to fold. if i need to go all-in myself i will,and they still have to call me,and if i'm racing or hopefully a slight favourite,i'm happy. yes,looking at the KK hand i shoiuld have raised the flop much bigger,but with 2 pair against me there already,i was in trouble. yes,bet to pot size needs more attention,rather then thinking about opponents bet sizes.
Hi Dev Can not give you any advice on you new challenge, as i am not good enough player to comment, just learning as i go. But i do enjoy your posts, and also pick up some tips from your hands and response from them. So good look and keep going i am sure you get there in the end. Glen Posted by _G_
ty glen,
yes it's early days and i've learnt so much already. glad you are picking up some tips too. best wishes dev
All prettry much standard bad calls and oppo getting lucky at this level. Wouldn't worry about it too much, make a note of their play as your going to win back so much money of these players long term. the AQ hand is where your just not listening to the message and maybe just call river message being, min bet/raise line lol Massive differance than someone just min bet/calling, where they are more likey just being a station and trying to get to showdiown as cheap as possible Probably the most annoying hands you'll see at this level where some calls with K5o and hits 2 pr. The only think you need to consider is, will this player just station off with the worse hand more often than just calling and folding any pair they hit. More often they just do their stack when they hit top pair so,,,, all good in a funny kind of way. Even though at the time your cat is getting a kicking @+_) Posted by rancid
hi rancid, ty m8 looking at the hands now it's so much easier than playing them at the time,isn't it, and i could have/should have done this/done that. i'm never that happy at losing...who is?,but when someone out-plays me at anything i can except it,and respect it, and i try and learn something from it too.but when i'm making simple mistakes,as i am in some cases here,it can be harder to take and accept.but my only excuse is 'it's early days'
luckiily the cat (tilly) was in the kitchen at the time in her bed fast asleep,so she was quite safe. lol (always makes me smile when i bump into 'tillytrots' at the tables. lol) best wishes dev
All prettry much standard bad calls and oppo getting lucky at this level. Wouldn't worry about it too much, make a note of their play as your going to win back so much money of these players long term. the AQ hand is where your just not listening to the message and maybe just call river message being, min bet/raise line lol Massive differance than someone just min bet/calling, where they are more likey just being a station and trying to get to showdiown as cheap as possible Probably the most annoying hands you'll see at this level where some calls with K5o and hits 2 pr. The only think you need to consider is, will this player just station off with the worse hand more often than just calling and folding any pair they hit. More often they just do their stack when they hit top pair so,,,, all good in a funny kind Remember poker is really easy when you have the best hand. It's of way. Even though at the time your cat is getting a kicking @+_) get's more diffcult when you possibly don't have the best hand or your being put to the test. Essentially versus bad players, poker is very easy. So figure out who the good players are ) o yeah raise the flop with the KK & AA Posted by rancid
all good points m8, yeah,you are right,i should have raised the flop with AA & KK hands...another lesson learnt. cheers
from what i see devonfish a few mistakes i think from the hands u have posted 1st hand A A Raise big on flop to around £2 why call its a wetish flop u dnt wanna see another card really vs 2 opponents 2nd hand KK Same again i dont know why your not raising here on a low flop 2 diamonds raise it up to around £1.80 - £2 get max value out of your hand i dnt see what u acheive by calling dnt ever trappppppppp at this level never works 3rd hand AQ i dnt mind the call on the flop as its cheap enuf to call once u call tptk guy bets 10p u have to raise bigger 30p is just to small i am going atleast 60p -70p My advice is bet bigger when u have the goods m8 dnt ever trap if u have kk etc comes low flop bet 3/4 pot each street if u get stuck on bet size i se u have a few lil leaks nowt major just think u need to bet more on ya good hands Posted by IDONKCALLU
thanks Steve, yeah,agree i need to be betting more and bigger with these hands. think i've already mentioned it. i'm sure it will come and also become easier and a standard part of my game,well hopefully. after playing DYM for so long where i was always trying to eek out chips from opponents... this cash malarky is going to take me a few more days to sort out. lol
Just a quick note to wish you my best Dev. I saw that you mentioned you've learnt a lot. I found that I learnt a ton from playing cash and I was even willing to sacrifice losing money to improve my game.
Just a quick note to wish you my best Dev. I saw that you mentioned you've learnt a lot. I found that I learnt a ton from playing cash and I was even willing to sacrifice losing money to improve my game. All the best Pat Posted by patwalshh
ty Pat, same,i said i was willing to play with just over £300 but obviously not wanting to sacrifice that amount to learn. cash has never been my thing,and i just thought what the **** let's give it a proper go this time. just learning how to post up hands has been fantastic,and the feedback has also been fantastic too,which i am most thank-full for. i have learnt more in the last 3 or 4 days or so,by posting up my worst losing hands, than i have in the last 2 to 3 years playing cash... and that is just amazing,i think.and hard to believe even. gl mate, dev
In Response to Re: a new year..a new game...CASH...hoooray,a small win. : Long lunch ! :-) Posted by VespaPX
hi Mick... yes you're right.... i was hungry. lol
i did intend starting earlier tonight but started watching the poker channel,and mastercash came on... so i had to watch that,didn't i. lol
playing 7pm freeroll atm. going to see what tables are going and take it from there i think. also, i'm not in any great hurry to play atm,as i'm trying to take in as much information away from the tables as i can,which i think is good and something new for me. anyway, that's all for now..gl buddy.
Hi ya Ian still bashing away at the DYM's with the Monday night DTD Mtt's. been watching a few cash games too to see what i can learn. been running about break even this year so far so not too bad.
Hi ya Ian still bashing away at the DYM's with the Monday night DTD Mtt's. been watching a few cash games too to see what i can learn. been running about break even this year so far so not too bad. Run good buddy Mick Posted by VespaPX
hi mate, bet u r all missing me at the £3.30 DYM's aren't you. lol
i'm having a great time atm,learning this cash malarky. lol
woooohoooo another win,that's 3 in a row.a record for me,shirley. very selective with my opening tables tonight,and played nl8 for the 1st time.,which seems to have paid off. had a really bad start,lost 3 big hands all to the river.i'll post hands up for you to look at. so i am 'over the moon' with tonights result. actually in profit.... who would have thought that just those few nights ago.
thought my bet sizing was good..and with my opponent only having £3 left i thought i had to shove on river,even though i knew it was a **** card for me.
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a couple of things that spring to mind for me in what you say about looking for players with smaller stacks so you can't get stacked yourself. True these are probably weaker players this can also mean that you are constantly getting it in pre in flips or marginal favourites against these stacks ak v 33 aq v j10 sort of thing this can lead to some dis heartening downsings imo. I would look for people that you know you are better than or unknowns with a full stack aswell as the shortys so you can try and get some nice paydays to
AA im getting it in there not feeling great about it but i think it is a must.
KK personally i would raise the flop lead, end result probably the same but whenever we get our opponant to put more money in the pot behind we have to think we are doing something right.
AQ make note of the minbet lead habit with 2 pair so now you can call villian sometimes on river when unsure of where you stand as he is making it dirt cheap. I would prefer a bigger raise on the the turn, try and think of your betting in rlation to the pot rather than his min donk lead. River is close between a flat and a raise for me depending on reads think you have to call his x/shove though seeing as how much you have commited even though you are fairly sure you are behind
Can not give you any advice on you new challenge, as i am not good enough player to comment, just learning as i go.
But i do enjoy your posts, and also pick up some tips from your hands and response from them.
So good look and keep going i am sure you get there in the end.
Glen
Wouldn't worry about it too much, make a note of their play as your going to win back so much money of these players long term.
the AQ hand is where your just not listening to the message and maybe just call river
message being, min bet/raise line lol
Massive differance than someone just min bet/calling, where they are more likey just being a station and trying to get to showdiown as cheap as possible
Probably the most annoying hands you'll see at this level where some calls with K5o and hits 2 pr.
The only think you need to consider is, will this player just station off with the worse hand more often than just calling and folding any pair they hit. More often they just do their stack when they hit top pair so,,,, all good in a funny kind of way. Even though at the time your cat is getting a kicking @+_)
Remember poker is really easy when you have the best hand.
It's get's more diffcult when you possibly don't have the best hand or your being put to the test.
Essentially versus bad players, poker is very easy.
So figure out who the good players are )
o yeah raise the flop with the KK & AA
thanks for the advice m8,
my heads all over the place atm,trying to take in so much asap.
my thinking with attacking the sm stacks seems to make sense,especially if i can raise big against them and get them to fold.
if i need to go all-in myself i will,and they still have to call me,and if i'm racing or hopefully a slight favourite,i'm happy.
yes,looking at the KK hand i shoiuld have raised the flop much bigger,but with 2 pair against me there already,i was in trouble.
yes,bet to pot size needs more attention,rather then thinking about opponents bet sizes.
thanks again mate,
dev
yes it's early days and i've learnt so much already.
glad you are picking up some tips too.
best wishes
dev
ty m8
looking at the hands now it's so much easier than playing them at the time,isn't it, and i could have/should have done this/done that.
i'm never that happy at losing...who is?,but when someone out-plays me at anything i can except it,and respect it, and i try and learn something from it too.but when i'm making simple mistakes,as i am in some cases here,it can be harder to take and accept.but my only excuse is 'it's early days'
luckiily the cat (tilly) was in the kitchen at the time in her bed fast asleep,so she was quite safe. lol
(always makes me smile when i bump into 'tillytrots' at the tables. lol)
best wishes
dev
yeah,you are right,i should have raised the flop with AA & KK hands...another lesson learnt.
cheers
yeah,agree i need to be betting more and bigger with these hands.
think i've already mentioned it.
i'm sure it will come and also become easier and a standard part of my game,well hopefully.
after playing DYM for so long where i was always trying to eek out chips from opponents...
this cash malarky is going to take me a few more days to sort out. lol
cheers m8...
run good
dev
i've only just spotted that button lol
'time for lunch...back laters'
(* *)
^
dev
same,i said i was willing to play with just over £300 but obviously not wanting to sacrifice that amount to learn.
cash has never been my thing,and i just thought what the **** let's give it a proper go this time.
just learning how to post up hands has been fantastic,and the feedback has also been fantastic too,which i am most thank-full for.
i have learnt more in the last 3 or 4 days or so,by posting up my worst losing hands, than i have in the last 2 to 3 years playing cash...
and that is just amazing,i think.and hard to believe even.
gl mate,
dev
dev
yes you're right....
i was hungry. lol
i did intend starting earlier tonight but started watching the poker channel,and mastercash came on...
so i had to watch that,didn't i. lol
playing 7pm freeroll atm.
going to see what tables are going and take it from there i think.
also,
i'm not in any great hurry to play atm,as i'm trying to take in as much information away from the tables as i can,which i think is good and something new for me.
anyway,
that's all for now..gl buddy.
what have you been playing recently?
dev
still bashing away at the DYM's with the Monday night DTD Mtt's.
been watching a few cash games too to see what i can learn.
been running about break even this year so far so not too bad.
Run good buddy
Mick
bet u r all missing me at the £3.30 DYM's aren't you. lol
i'm having a great time atm,learning this cash malarky. lol
post to follow.
be lucky mate.
ian
session 4
won £22.77
cash b/roll £318.42 (up £4.80 hoooray)
c4p 56
total 527
played; 3xnl10 & 3xnl8 4-4&1/2 hrs play
woooohoooo another win,that's 3 in a row.a record for me,shirley.
very selective with my opening tables tonight,and played nl8 for the 1st time.,which seems to have paid off.
had a really bad start,lost 3 big hands all to the river.i'll post hands up for you to look at.
so i am 'over the moon' with tonights result.
actually in profit....
who would have thought that just those few nights ago.
anyway,nite all,
dev
but after that i wasn't folding was i?
i'm good up until turn/ river...again.