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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055

    Become a volunteer for the brexit party >>>>>

    https://thebrexitparty.org/volunteer/

    Have you?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055

    https://thebrexitparty.org/
    FOLLOWERS
    78.4k

    #ChangePoliticsForGood

    Wow, and you were knocking a petition with 6 million signatures on it.
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,495
    Vote on Pudding Day ....... we will see the Proof. !
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited April 2019
    Brexit party launch Q & A 's >>>>

    Really good watch .

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ynJORLMEzQGR?t=26
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055

    Spot on again from Nigel >>>

    BREXIT: Nigel Farage slams "arrogant bullies" Juncker, Barnier and Tusk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCdkJYN7Ays

    Yes spot on.

    Farage's £15,000 a day bodyguards... on the taxpayer: Ukip leader branded a 'hypocrite' after using EU money to fund team of ex-military personnel - while attacking wasteful spending by Brussels
    Security firm guarding Nigel Farage sent hefty bills to European Parliament
    Its checklist of tasks included 'ensuring refreshments have been arranged'
    Team accompanied MEP at great expense throughout his nationwide tour
    Opponents called Farage a 'hypocrite' for seemingly extravagant spending



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3568601/Farage-s-15-000-day-bodyguards-taxpayer-Ukip-leader-branded-hypocrite-using-EU-money-fund-team-ex-military-personnel-attacking-wasteful-spending-Brussels.html
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    goldon said:

    Vote on Pudding Day ....... we will see the Proof. !

    I think Humble pie will be on the menu , for some :D
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793

    Brexit party launch Q & A 's >>>>

    Really good watch .

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1ynJORLMEzQGR?t=26

    19.58 ..Nigel speaks about WTO and a hard border .
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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,495
    The days when MP's cycle to work have gone ...... now two jag's two homes lots jollies abroad for MP's all on the Tax payer so if you move in with the Kardashians you don't live like a Tramp do you. cough!
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055
    edited April 2019

    LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! Express.co.uk readers send DIRE Brexit warning to May - POLL RESULTS

    Our readers voted in their droves for Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party to represent them in the European Parliament, an exclusive poll of almost 20,000 people has revealed. There hasn’t been an official declaration of the UK’s intent to partake in the next round of European Parliament elections, but with the latest Brexit delay it is highly likely. So we asked our readers: who would you vote for? The results were overwhelming, with 19,406 voting between 10.30am and 8pm on Friday, April 12.

    Results of the poll:
    Brexit Party: 15,797 or 82 percent
    UKIP: 976 or six percent
    Change UK: 635 or four percent
    Labour Party: 600 or four percent
    Liberal Democrats: 380 or one percent
    Conservative Party: 361 or one percent
    Other: 237 or one percent
    Green Party: 209 or one percent
    SNP: 178 or less than one percent
    Plaid Cymru: 33 or less than one percent

    The newly instated Brexit Party have the overwhelming lead.

    Those who voted were eager to share their comments on the poll.

    One wrote: “I would vote for Farage, he is the ONLY one who sincerely cares about are country.”

    Another said: “I have never seen Farage lose an argument, no matter who he's up against. He tells the truth 'because he can, says it the way it is, and has the habit of actually answering questions. He's a one off!”

    Not necessarily reliable.

    The Daily Express has flagged up a Brexit story correction on its front page for the second time within a week, following a ruling by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).
    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/daily-express-forced-to-run-second-front-page-correction-over-anti-eu-coverage-in-space-of-a-week/



    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/new-open-europe-poll-on-forthcoming-european-parliamentary-elections/

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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited April 2019
    HAYSIE said:

    LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! Express.co.uk readers send DIRE Brexit warning to May - POLL RESULTS

    Our readers voted in their droves for Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party to represent them in the European Parliament, an exclusive poll of almost 20,000 people has revealed. There hasn’t been an official declaration of the UK’s intent to partake in the next round of European Parliament elections, but with the latest Brexit delay it is highly likely. So we asked our readers: who would you vote for? The results were overwhelming, with 19,406 voting between 10.30am and 8pm on Friday, April 12.

    Results of the poll:
    Brexit Party: 15,797 or 82 percent
    UKIP: 976 or six percent
    Change UK: 635 or four percent
    Labour Party: 600 or four percent
    Liberal Democrats: 380 or one percent
    Conservative Party: 361 or one percent
    Other: 237 or one percent
    Green Party: 209 or one percent
    SNP: 178 or less than one percent
    Plaid Cymru: 33 or less than one percent

    The newly instated Brexit Party have the overwhelming lead.

    Those who voted were eager to share their comments on the poll.

    One wrote: “I would vote for Farage, he is the ONLY one who sincerely cares about are country.”

    Another said: “I have never seen Farage lose an argument, no matter who he's up against. He tells the truth 'because he can, says it the way it is, and has the habit of actually answering questions. He's a one off!”

    Not necessarily reliable.

    The Daily Express has flagged up a Brexit story correction on its front page for the second time within a week, following a ruling by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).
    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/daily-express-forced-to-run-second-front-page-correction-over-anti-eu-coverage-in-space-of-a-week/



    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/new-open-europe-poll-on-forthcoming-european-parliamentary-elections/

    Directly from the yougov page , who I trust more than the unreliable nonsense you have quoted.
    So the Express have indeed quoted the figures correctly from yougov. >>>

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



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    goldongoldon Member Posts: 8,495
    Anyone remember "Bennydip" The Truth is out There"
    Make your own minds up enough information out there to sift out fake news.
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    brexit party rally in Birmingham >>>>

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiO30Va7opI
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055
    edited April 2019

    HAYSIE said:

    LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! Express.co.uk readers send DIRE Brexit warning to May - POLL RESULTS

    Our readers voted in their droves for Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party to represent them in the European Parliament, an exclusive poll of almost 20,000 people has revealed. There hasn’t been an official declaration of the UK’s intent to partake in the next round of European Parliament elections, but with the latest Brexit delay it is highly likely. So we asked our readers: who would you vote for? The results were overwhelming, with 19,406 voting between 10.30am and 8pm on Friday, April 12.

    Results of the poll:
    Brexit Party: 15,797 or 82 percent
    UKIP: 976 or six percent
    Change UK: 635 or four percent
    Labour Party: 600 or four percent
    Liberal Democrats: 380 or one percent
    Conservative Party: 361 or one percent
    Other: 237 or one percent
    Green Party: 209 or one percent
    SNP: 178 or less than one percent
    Plaid Cymru: 33 or less than one percent

    The newly instated Brexit Party have the overwhelming lead.

    Those who voted were eager to share their comments on the poll.

    One wrote: “I would vote for Farage, he is the ONLY one who sincerely cares about are country.”

    Another said: “I have never seen Farage lose an argument, no matter who he's up against. He tells the truth 'because he can, says it the way it is, and has the habit of actually answering questions. He's a one off!”

    Not necessarily reliable.

    The Daily Express has flagged up a Brexit story correction on its front page for the second time within a week, following a ruling by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).
    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/daily-express-forced-to-run-second-front-page-correction-over-anti-eu-coverage-in-space-of-a-week/



    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/new-open-europe-poll-on-forthcoming-european-parliamentary-elections/

    Directly from the yougov page , who I trust more than the unreliable nonsense you have quoted.
    So the Express have indeed quoted the figures correctly from yougov. >>>

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    You posted the details of an Express poll that concluded that the Brexit Party got 82% of the vote.
    I posted an article questioning the validity of the way the Express conduct their poles.
    I also posted details of two other polls on the same topic, that have pretty similar results.
    These results are radically different to the Express results.
    You refer to the YouGuv results that I posted as nonsense.
    You then post exactly the same graph, and exactly the same link, and refer to both as being credible.

    The results of the Express poll are completely different from the YouGuv one.

    You should try adding a little more water.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055


    19.58 ..Nigel speaks about WTO and a hard border .





    You may wish to read this before complimenting his nonsense.





    What are the options for the Irish border after Brexit?


    FactCheck takes a look at the options, and what it could mean for the peace process.
    A non-existent land border is off the table
    FactCheck spoke to Aoife O’Donoghue, Professor of Law at the University of Durham to understand the issue.
    She explained that the no-border option is off the table: “that’s gone. If the UK had chosen to stay in the customs union and the single market, you could do that. But in deciding not to, that means there has to be some form of border.”
    Academics at the Universities of Birmingham, Durham and Newcastle, including Professor O’Donoghue, explained why in a recent policy paper:
    “Any approach which does not involved the UK remaining within the EU Single Market and the EU Customs Union will result in the imposition of some physical border controls because the legal guarantees of regulatory equivalence, mutual recognition, and non-barriers will require checks.”
    This view was echoed by the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, who told the Irish parliament that while he would work with all parties to avoid a hard border, “customs controls are part of EU border management. They protect the single market. They protect our food safety and our standards.”.
    So it looks almost inevitable that some form of border checks will have to be put in place after Brexit if we leave the single market and the customs union.
    A hard land border: almost inevitable if we leave the EU without a deal
    Professor O’Donoghue explains that “the harder the Brexit, the harder the border.”
    At what she calls the “very extreme” end of the spectrum is a hard border where the UK leaves with no deal and has to default to World Trade Organisation rules.
    If the UK defaults to WTO rules (using copied-and-pasted versions of the EU’s tariffs in the short term), the EU would still have to maintain its side of the border. That would require check goods coming into Ireland from the UK.

    That’s because the EU’s existence as a free trade area depends on its ability to demonstrate to the WTO that it can control its external borders properly.

    A one-way land border: possible, but undesirable
    The EU would need a physical border to check goods coming into the Republic of Ireland from Northern Ireland in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
    Although in theory, the UK could decide not to impose checks on goods moving the other way (i.e. from the Republic into Northern Ireland). This could make a hard border slightly softer.
    But there’s a catch: under WTO rules, unless you’re in a free trade bloc like the EU or NAFTA, you have to obey the “most favoured nation” rule.
    That means if you lower trade tariffs for one trading partner, you have to lower tariffs to all your other partners. Professor O’Donoghue explains:
    “If the UK chooses not impose any tariffs on goods coming across the [Irish] border… that would mean that the UK is giving the EU (because Ireland is the EU in this context) complete open access. So its most favoured nation tariff is zero. That means it would have to give a zero tariff access to every single country in the WTO.”
    Now, the idea of the UK scrapping tariffs altogether isn’t entirely out of the question, according to some advocates for hard Brexit. Regular FactCheck readers might remember this proposal featured on the famous “Wetherspoon manifesto”, and was printed on half a million beermats across the pub chain’s 800-odd branches.
    But doing so could have a devastating impact on UK businesses.
    Back to our researchers at the Universities of Birmingham, Durham and Newcastle, who explain: “the impact upon the agri-food and farming sector is particularly revealing. Most agricultural products and livestock are subject to EU import tariffs of between 6% and 22%.”
    “UK agri-food products would either have to compete with heavily subsided EU produce on the global market… or target sales within the UK to avoid import duties. It is likely that suppliers will use the cheapest available option which, due to CAP subsidies, may very well still be EU products”.
    In other words, abolishing import tariffs could mean that UK producers are priced-out of UK and EU markets.
    A “soft” land border is the DUP’s preferred option, but Dublin remains unconvinced
    FactCheck also spoke to Professor John Garry of Queen’s University Belfast. He told us: “the DUP suggest that it is feasible to put into effect a border regime using technology – for example, with cameras and pre-registration of goods – and that that should be smooth and seamless.”
    He suggested that “the DUP is frustrated that, in its view, the Dublin government hasn’t engaged as constructively as it could” with the idea that this kind of technology could make smooth border a reality.
    But as Professor Garry explains, “the Dublin government says it’s far from being convinced that it’s technologically possible to have a north-south border that won’t cause difficulties. And what they mean by difficulties is both security-related and and economic.”
    From Dublin’s perspective, even if a border between the Republic and Northern Ireland was made up of cameras logging vehicles in and out, this could still provide a target for those who wanted to abolish a border altogether.
    A border in the Irish Sea: theoretically possible, but politically difficult
    There has been speculation about whether the post-Brexit border could exist in the Irish Sea, rather than on land. That would mean the whole island of Ireland operating without an internal border.
    Professor O’Donoghue explains: “the sea border would come about as a result of a special status being negotiated for Northern Ireland. That is possible, but politically that would be difficult from the perspective of the DUP.”
    This week, the DUP MP for North Antrim, Ian Paisley, told the Irish Times that “we want to make sure the border is not moved to the Irish Sea, that is not acceptable ever and that would be a constitutional breach.”
    The DUP leader Arlene Foster wrote to the leaders of 27 EU member states saying that she would categorically reject any arrangements that would give Northern Ireland a different status to the rest of the UK after Brexit.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055

    And a sea border would raise a significant practical question: how would the UK prevent goods coming through the “backdoor” of Ireland?
    Professor O’Donoghue explains: “Northern Ireland – in order to avoid a free for all for goods coming into the UK – would have to have a special status that would put it basically, maybe not in a customs union or a single market, but in a free trade area. That would be quite a substantial thing to negotiate.”
    So a border in the Irish Sea is legally possible, but creates at least two political problems: convincing the Democratic Unionists on the one hand, and convincing the EU on the other.
    What about the Good Friday agreement and the peace process?
    Theresa May has described her government’s commitment to the Good Friday Agreement as “rock solid” and said “there is, and remains, strong support for the entirely peaceful future for Northern Ireland”.
    The EU has also reaffirmed its commitment to the Good Friday Agreement, saying: “The Union has consistently supported the goal of peace and reconciliation enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement in all its parts.”

    But, Professor O’Donoghue points out that: “The Good Friday Agreement envisages that there is equivalence between Northern Ireland and the Republic. It doesn’t mean that it has to be exactly the same (for example, there’s gay marriage in the Republic but not in Northern Ireland) but they’re supposed to be somewhat similar.”
    She warns that if the UK government succeeds in getting rid of some elements of the Fundamental Charter of Human Rights after Brexit, Northern Irish law could be incompatible with the Good Friday Agreement.
    One way round this problem could be to “keep [those elements of the Fundamental Charter of Human Rights] in Northern Ireland, and just get rid of them in Britain.”
    But the risks of a hard border for the peace process extend beyond human rights law.
    Professor O’Donoghue describes the situation in Norway and Sweden, where soldiers jointly patrol the border, and can pursue people who try to cross illegally. She says “that could be very sensitive, if you had the Gardaí [police] going into Northern Ireland…and of course vice versa with British troops in the Republic.”
    Indeed, only this week, the Sinn Féin MP Chris Hazzard said that “if we see a situation where we are going to have border customs posts or any particular type of hardware, I would think that would be something people won’t want.”
    He added: “and I go even further. An awful lot of the focus has been on maybe dissident republican organisations and threats, but it is wider than that – it goes right down to a feeling of civil disobedience.”


    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-what-are-the-options-for-the-irish-border-after-brexit
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 32,055
    Ex-WTO boss Pascal Lamy: 'There will have to be an Irish border post-Brexit'



    https://news.sky.com/story/ex-wto-boss-pascal-lamy-there-will-have-to-be-an-irish-border-post-brexit-11101026


    Zero-tariff plan for Irish border could face WTO legal threat, says Gove
    Environment secretary admits other nations could have a case against no-deal Brexit proposal

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/27/zero-tariff-plan-irish-border-could-face-wto-legal-threat-gove-Brexit

    More delusions on the Irish border | Financial Times
    www.ft.com/content/1ce27838-d370-11e7-8c9a-d9c0a...
    More delusions on the Irish border. Simply ignoring the boundary is not an idea that would work in the real world . A disused border post between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland near
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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited April 2019
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE! Express.co.uk readers send DIRE Brexit warning to May - POLL RESULTS

    Our readers voted in their droves for Nigel Farage’s new Brexit Party to represent them in the European Parliament, an exclusive poll of almost 20,000 people has revealed. There hasn’t been an official declaration of the UK’s intent to partake in the next round of European Parliament elections, but with the latest Brexit delay it is highly likely. So we asked our readers: who would you vote for? The results were overwhelming, with 19,406 voting between 10.30am and 8pm on Friday, April 12.

    Results of the poll:
    Brexit Party: 15,797 or 82 percent
    UKIP: 976 or six percent
    Change UK: 635 or four percent
    Labour Party: 600 or four percent
    Liberal Democrats: 380 or one percent
    Conservative Party: 361 or one percent
    Other: 237 or one percent
    Green Party: 209 or one percent
    SNP: 178 or less than one percent
    Plaid Cymru: 33 or less than one percent

    The newly instated Brexit Party have the overwhelming lead.

    Those who voted were eager to share their comments on the poll.

    One wrote: “I would vote for Farage, he is the ONLY one who sincerely cares about are country.”

    Another said: “I have never seen Farage lose an argument, no matter who he's up against. He tells the truth 'because he can, says it the way it is, and has the habit of actually answering questions. He's a one off!”

    Not necessarily reliable.

    The Daily Express has flagged up a Brexit story correction on its front page for the second time within a week, following a ruling by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO).
    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/daily-express-forced-to-run-second-front-page-correction-over-anti-eu-coverage-in-space-of-a-week/



    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/new-open-europe-poll-on-forthcoming-european-parliamentary-elections/

    Directly from the yougov page , who I trust more than the unreliable nonsense you have quoted.
    So the Express have indeed quoted the figures correctly from yougov. >>>

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2019/04/13/tories-and-labour-face-uphill-struggle-european-el



    You posted the details of an Express poll that concluded that the Brexit Party got 82% of the vote.
    I posted an article questioning the validity of the way the Express conduct their poles.
    I also posted details of two other polls on the same topic, that have pretty similar results.
    These results are radically different to the Express results.
    You refer to the YouGuv results that I posted as nonsense.
    You then post exactly the same graph, and exactly the same link, and refer to both as being credible.

    The results of the Express poll are completely different from the YouGuv one.

    You should try adding a little more water.
    Very last time I intend responding to your dementia led nonsense ...i responded to your poll by the open europe group , not yougov ...i merely pointed out that your views that the poll by yougov wasn't accurate because it was quoted by the express is nonsense .
    I would not only suggest no water with yours , but several common sense pills as well .
    Last response to your inane bs , apart from to say I'm very sorry your Brexit thread has died a death apart from a couple of usual suspects , but you won't get any attention on here ...door >>>>>>>>
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,001
    The Opinion polls above make for interesting reading (not the Express one, obv).

    Love the tagline about Labour facing an "uphill struggle"-looking like a massive win from here.

    Noticeable that the "Remain" parties (Lib Dems, Greens, SNP/PC, Change) are making no headway whatsoever. Whereas Brexit/UKIP ARE making strides.

    Give that elitist Farage credit where it is due. At least he is not racist like UKIP. And he is proving that you can fool some of the people all the time. And he IS entertaining. In a car-crash sort of way....

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    dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Essexphil said:

    The Opinion polls above make for interesting reading (not the Express one, obv).

    Love the tagline about Labour facing an "uphill struggle"-looking like a massive win from here.

    Noticeable that the "Remain" parties (Lib Dems, Greens, SNP/PC, Change) are making no headway whatsoever. Whereas Brexit/UKIP ARE making strides.

    Give that elitist Farage credit where it is due. At least he is not racist like UKIP. And he is proving that you can fool some of the people all the time. And he IS entertaining. In a car-crash sort of way....

    Well we know you don't hold any store in opinion polls anyway ...you actually said people lie in them , so on that basis not sure why you would find them interesting .
    As far as the fooling some of the people all of the time , sorry to say you are actually falling into Haysies MO of arrogantly dismissing peoples views as being misguided .
    You have correctly identified the party as being well supported , and watch out how the european elections and beyond pan out .
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