Watch BBC iPlayer for yesterday’s Govt update...start at 43:06 to see the arrogance of Robert Jenrick dismiss a question about him going to his holiday home; his wife works in And his children school in London and suddenly he is more important than us? Toryterwat
Watch BBC iPlayer for yesterday’s Govt update...start at 43:06 to see the arrogance of Robert Jenrick dismiss a question about him going to his holiday home; his wife works in And his children school in London and suddenly he is more important than us? Toryterwat
He is an arrogant man. No second homes? Does Boris live at Chequers then?
I don’t have an issue with his journey to deliver ,education/supplies etc to his parents 40 miles away...it’s this acceptance that he’s important enough to commute back and forth...why not stay in London if that’s where you’re ‘needed’? So many other families are separated by this pandemics...why can he go back and forth? Why can’t he set the example?
Frankly he should be sacked! Oh sorry that won’t happen either as his boss, Bojo did the same thing by going to his ‘ second’ home to convalescence so talk about don’t do as I do but do as I say....
Now take all this in as it is important. These are the guidelines as written on a huge **** packet. It could save your life or not. ..We finally have some clarity...
The (un) official Coronavirus guidelines:
1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house
2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not
3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open
4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work
5. You should not go to the Drs or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there
6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable people. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster
7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes or not
8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out
9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some
10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it effects
11. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11)
13. You will have many symptoms if your get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...
14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go out shopping
15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic
16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication
17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out
18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including Pizza...
19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver
20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours... six hours... I mean days, not hours... But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic
22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores to be education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am
23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am
24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of… the people who die of corona who aren’t counted won’t be counted
25. You should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected
26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music
27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus
Now take all this in as it is important. These are the guidelines as written on a huge **** packet. It could save your life or not. ..We finally have some clarity...
The (un) official Coronavirus guidelines:
1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house
2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not
3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open
4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work
5. You should not go to the Drs or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there
6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable people. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster
7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes or not
8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out
9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some
10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it effects
11. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11)
13. You will have many symptoms if your get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...
14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go out shopping
15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic
16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication
17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out
18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including Pizza...
19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver
20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours... six hours... I mean days, not hours... But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic
22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores to be education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am
23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am
24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of… the people who die of corona who aren’t counted won’t be counted
25. You should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected
26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music
27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus
You are right its all absolutely clear.
All I can add is that the instructions to the police are also very clear, which is why they have been telling people that they shouldn't be in their front gardens, and stalking members of the public, in what have become known as non-essential supermarket aisles, as well as generally inspecting trollies for non-essential items. Care workers will shortly be provided with PPE, in addition to their badges. They will also be allowed to get a test soon. Care workers in Norfolk have been advised that their nearest testing centre is in Sheffield. The 84 tonnes of PPE that was definitely arriving from Turkey today, didn't. We did sell China 270,00 items of PPE in February. Should we really be accepting social distancing advice from Boris, and Matt Hancock, when they haven't been able to manage it themselves. The just over 200 recorded deaths in care homes, could be as many as 7,500. Boris didn't bother attending the first 5 Cobra meetings, and insisted on his weekends off.
I don’t have an issue with his journey to deliver ,education/supplies etc to his parents 40 miles away...it’s this acceptance that he’s important enough to commute back and forth...why not stay in London if that’s where you’re ‘needed’? So many other families are separated by this pandemics...why can he go back and forth? Why can’t he set the example?
Frankly he should be sacked! Oh sorry that won’t happen either as his boss, Bojo did the same thing by going to his ‘ second’ home to convalescence so talk about don’t do as I do but do as I say....
He was the person that appeared on national tv telling everyone not to visit their Mothers on Mothers Day. This occurred the week before he was caught. I believe he just made up excuses, because he was bang to rights. If his parents are really too old and infirm, to shop, and arrange prescriptions, for themselves, they would surely have arrangements already in place. Many people have their necessities delivered all year round, with or without an epidemic. He surely doesn't pick a bit of shopping up for them, and sort out their prescriptions, when he is living and working in London. He was only 40 miles away because he was at his holiday home. If one visit was ok, why was everyone banned on Mothers Day. They certainly do not lead by example.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I don’t have an issue with his journey to deliver ,education/supplies etc to his parents 40 miles away...it’s this acceptance that he’s important enough to commute back and forth...why not stay in London if that’s where you’re ‘needed’? So many other families are separated by this pandemics...why can he go back and forth? Why can’t he set the example?
Frankly he should be sacked! Oh sorry that won’t happen either as his boss, Bojo did the same thing by going to his ‘ second’ home to convalescence so talk about don’t do as I do but do as I say....
He was the person that appeared on national tv telling everyone not to visit their Mothers on Mothers Day. This occurred the week before he was caught. I believe he just made up excuses, because he was bang to rights. If his parents are really too old and infirm, to shop, and arrange prescriptions, for themselves, they would surely have arrangements already in place. Many people have their necessities delivered all year round, with or without an epidemic. He surely doesn't pick a bit of shopping up for them, and sort out their prescriptions, when he is living and working in London. He was only 40 miles away because he was at his holiday home. If one visit was ok, why was everyone banned on Mothers Day. They certainly do not lead by example.
I don’t have an issue with his journey to deliver ,education/supplies etc to his parents 40 miles away...it’s this acceptance that he’s important enough to commute back and forth...why not stay in London if that’s where you’re ‘needed’? So many other families are separated by this pandemics...why can he go back and forth? Why can’t he set the example?
Frankly he should be sacked! Oh sorry that won’t happen either as his boss, Bojo did the same thing by going to his ‘ second’ home to convalescence so talk about don’t do as I do but do as I say....
He should look in the mirror and say to himself ‘ cee you next Tuesday ‘ ( or is that when he goes back to Herefordshire.)
There's still plenty of discussion in Monday's papers about how and when the coronavirus lockdown measures may be relaxed. The Daily Mail says that, with the daily death toll at its lowest level for a fortnight, ministers are under pressure to lay out how restrictions might be eased. The Daily Telegraph columnist Paul Nuki welcomes the government's cautious approach, writing that "a second peak would be an economic tragedy as well as a human one" which would "put UK PLC on a slab". The paper's editorial urges ministers to be more open about the discussions being held, calling the government's refusal to discuss the matter "unacceptable". An editorial in the Sun urges people to "cut the backseat driving" and let ministers get on with making decisions away from public scrutiny. The Telegraph's front page claims two-thirds of children are not taking part in online lessons being provided by schools. The report points out that private school pupils are twice as likely to log on - fuelling fears that educational disparities between the rich and poor could widen.
A Times editorial on the subject urges the government to prioritise the reopening of schools as quickly as possible, calling it a matter of "social justice" - citing a Norwegian scientific study that showed the future income of children from poorer backgrounds was lowered for every week of schooling they missed. The Guardian dedicates its editorial to this week's reopening of Parliament. It calls the move "overdue", saying that "in dark days, parliamentary democracy must shine the strongest possible light on the questions that face us all". The paper, however, makes a plea for more MPs to be involved, with current plans only allowing 50 members to be in the chamber, with another 70 taking part in debates virtually - a situation it says that could allow proceedings to be controlled by party whips. Writing in the Times, the Conservative MP and chair of the House of Commons Procedure Committee, Karen Bradley, says that technical hitches are inevitable, as anybody who has attempted to set up a video call with colleagues, friends or family during the lockdown will know all too well.
There's a warning in the Telegraph that some of the UK's best loved seafood is at risk of extinction because of government plans to relax fishing quotas next year to help the industry survive the current crisis. The Marine Conservation Society has told the paper that cod, eels and sea bass are all at risk of dying out. The Daily Express reports that the pandemic is also putting the Great British cuppa at risk. The paper reports that tea production has been severely affected in places like India, Sri Lanka and Malaysia, which could cause shortages and sharp prices increases. And the Guardian says that Danish football fans will be given the chance to watch games in a unique way when the season restarts next month. With games set to be played behind closed doors, the Superliga side Midtjylland have installed giant screens in a car park outside their stadium where fans will be able to watch the action from their cars. Screens have also been installed in the ground's stands to broadcast footage of the drive-in cinema's crowd back to the players.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
Boris Johnson is 'reluctant to end lockdown over fears of a second wave of coronavirus infections' - despite lowest daily death toll for two weeks - but Sunak and Gove want to 'run hot' and ease restrictions sooner
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has told colleagues his 'over-riding concern' is to avoid a second wave of the pandemic and a fresh spike in cases. Mr Johnson is reportedly taking a more cautious stance on when to begin reopening the economy than Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Minister for the Cabinet Office, Michael Gove who want to minimise the damage of the lockdown to businesses. Health secretary, Matt Hancock, argued that before easing restrictions the government should try to suppress the virus for longer so its transmission rate becomes much lower. It comes as it emerged pubs and restaurants could remain closed until the winter, as Mr Gove said hospitality would be 'among the last to exit the lockdown'.
Crucial 84-tonne shipment of coronavirus PPE from Turkey could be delayed AGAIN: Hospital leaders unite to attack government over 'bitter experience' of failed deliveries as supplies 'are set to run out TODAY'
Hospitals are on the verge of running out of some life-saving supplies after the 84-tonne delivery from Turkey, including 400,000 protective gowns, failed to arrive last night. Medical bodies say shortages mean doctors could need to make 'difficult decisions' between exposing themselves to the virus or 'letting a patient die on their watch'. Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick announced with fanfare on Saturday that the consignment was coming, before Education Secretary Gavin Williams humiliatingly admitted last night that it had been postponed. Mr Williamson said he 'hoped' it would be in the UK today, while Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden predicted this morning that it will leave Turkey today. However, Chris Hopson, chief of NHS Providers, which represents hospital trusts, said this morning there was 'low confidence' the materials will actually arrive. 'If it is going to arrive today is will probably arrive late in the day,' he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. It comes as the death toll among health workers including frontline NHS staff and care workers hit 80 (pictured).
Large stacks of empty coffins are piled up at a temporary morgue in the car park of a Birmingham mosque as coronavirus hits BAME population hardest
Chilling images (left and top and bottom right) from inside the temporary mortuary at the Central Jamia Mosque Ghamkol Sharif in Small Heath, Birmingham, have given a rare insight into the scale of the coronavirus crisis. The sobering scenes, which show dozens of coffins stacked on top of each other, comes just three weeks after the mosque in the west midlands erected the tent in an effort to deal with the increasing death toll among the Islamic faith.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
I'm not a fan of the Health Minister. The man seems intent on blaming others for his own mistakes, while seeming like he is not even going to pretend he cares.
And yet.
Who is best placed to arrange for PPE? The Government? That would be the people who have no previous dealings with the suppliers, and zero experience of logistics.
Why do the NHS get a free pass here? They are one of the 10 largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare provider in the world. That employs some 1.7 million people. Which will include thousands of logistic experts-even before this pandemic they were providing and arranging logistics on a massive scale. The people who have years of building up relationships as the largest single healthcare purchaser in the world.
I used to run a small-medium firm of solicitors. As such, it was compulsory to have a detailed Business Recovery Plan (often called a Disaster Plan).
So why does the NHS not have a detailed plan? In relation to a health pandemic. when it was always a question of if, rather than when, one would appear. This is just not acceptable.
Why is it providing no leadership in relation to the way forward? It employs thousands of Managers, and yet (apparently) none that can actually help. I'm sure "science" (actually, it's just UK science, and ignore the "foreign" science) and Universities have a part to play. So why not the health provider?
The Chief Executive of the NHS oversees £120 billion of annual spending. Anyone seen him? Or even knows who he is?
The front line of the NHS deserve our applause. The Management deserve the disdain currently reserved for this Government.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
Don’t get me started on that crook, Branson.....
There is an unofficial( unauthorised) biography done on him, which he tried and failed to get an injunction to stop the publication...fascinating read
Especially the part where, when he was in court for tax evasions in the virgin record days( and see how he could sell records so cheap?) his mother as a character witness saved him from a custodial sentence....
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
Government departments have in my experience never been good at procurement. They talk the talk but always miss the point and can't see the wood for the trees.
PPE is a good example where we apparently rejected some gowns etc from China because they did not comply or have a certificate that they did not comply with our standards.
The standards were mostly to do with ensuring that children could not choke themselves on the garment ties.
This is a pandemic ffs. Can they not see the wood for the trees?
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
I'm not a fan of the Health Minister. The man seems intent on blaming others for his own mistakes, while seeming like he is not even going to pretend he cares.
And yet.
Who is best placed to arrange for PPE? The Government? That would be the people who have no previous dealings with the suppliers, and zero experience of logistics.
Why do the NHS get a free pass here? They are one of the 10 largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare provider in the world. That employs some 1.7 million people. Which will include thousands of logistic experts-even before this pandemic they were providing and arranging logistics on a massive scale. The people who have years of building up relationships as the largest single healthcare purchaser in the world.
I used to run a small-medium firm of solicitors. As such, it was compulsory to have a detailed Business Recovery Plan (often called a Disaster Plan).
So why does the NHS not have a detailed plan? In relation to a health pandemic. when it was always a question of if, rather than when, one would appear. This is just not acceptable.
Why is it providing no leadership in relation to the way forward? It employs thousands of Managers, and yet (apparently) none that can actually help. I'm sure "science" (actually, it's just UK science, and ignore the "foreign" science) and Universities have a part to play. So why not the health provider?
The Chief Executive of the NHS oversees £120 billion of annual spending. Anyone seen him? Or even knows who he is?
The front line of the NHS deserve our applause. The Management deserve the disdain currently reserved for this Government.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
I'm not a fan of the Health Minister. The man seems intent on blaming others for his own mistakes, while seeming like he is not even going to pretend he cares.
And yet.
Who is best placed to arrange for PPE? The Government? That would be the people who have no previous dealings with the suppliers, and zero experience of logistics.
Why do the NHS get a free pass here? They are one of the 10 largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare provider in the world. That employs some 1.7 million people. Which will include thousands of logistic experts-even before this pandemic they were providing and arranging logistics on a massive scale. The people who have years of building up relationships as the largest single healthcare purchaser in the world.
I used to run a small-medium firm of solicitors. As such, it was compulsory to have a detailed Business Recovery Plan (often called a Disaster Plan).
So why does the NHS not have a detailed plan? In relation to a health pandemic. when it was always a question of if, rather than when, one would appear. This is just not acceptable.
Why is it providing no leadership in relation to the way forward? It employs thousands of Managers, and yet (apparently) none that can actually help. I'm sure "science" (actually, it's just UK science, and ignore the "foreign" science) and Universities have a part to play. So why not the health provider?
The Chief Executive of the NHS oversees £120 billion of annual spending. Anyone seen him? Or even knows who he is?
The front line of the NHS deserve our applause. The Management deserve the disdain currently reserved for this Government.
The private sector is obviously results driven, and therefore impossible to retain your job, if unable to find solutions to problems. The NHS managers wish to blame underfunding for all their problems. No private sector business would accept the failure to address similar problems recurring time and time again, without heads rolling. Top managers that are unable to solve fairly straightforward problems, shouldn't remain in their posts. If the whole organisation is failing then the top man should be replaced. I think Matt Hancock is a D1CK, and he gets on my nerves every time he is interviewed. He also annoys me when he sits at the side of Boris at PMQs, with his dead serious face on, nodding in agreement for the cameras, in response to anything Boris says. Boris may well have him in mind for the scapegoat when this is all over.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
Don’t get me started on that crook, Branson.....
There is an unofficial( unauthorised) biography done on him, which he tried and failed to get an injunction to stop the publication...fascinating read
Especially the part where, when he was in court for tax evasions in the virgin record days( and see how he could sell records so cheap?) his mother as a character witness saved him from a custodial sentence....
Another terwat....
Whatever you have to say about him, his staff run businesses a million times better than our Government, and their appointees.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
Government departments have in my experience never been good at procurement. They talk the talk but always miss the point and can't see the wood for the trees.
PPE is a good example where we apparently rejected some gowns etc from China because they did not comply or have a certificate that they did not comply with our standards.
The standards were mostly to do with ensuring that children could not choke themselves on the garment ties.
This is a pandemic ffs. Can they not see the wood for the trees?
The NHS management are useless.
There was a recent fraud programme on BBC, where the staff get away with billions of pounds worth of stuff every year. They buy jars of cream for over £1300 that should cost 50p. The waiting times keep increasing. There was a Winter problem every year, which they have turned into a year round problem. They have had a recruitment problem, that they can never solve. They seem to just accept failure in so many areas, and blame lack of funding for everything. They have bought the wrong ventilators, and tests that don't work.
I’ve had another great idea..I might even submit it to Bojo to consider in this PPE mess
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
I have often thought this about the NHS.
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses. In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas. In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses. As a business it is a complete disaster. Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service. You could not fault the front line staff.
Don’t get me started on that crook, Branson.....
There is an unofficial( unauthorised) biography done on him, which he tried and failed to get an injunction to stop the publication...fascinating read
Especially the part where, when he was in court for tax evasions in the virgin record days( and see how he could sell records so cheap?) his mother as a character witness saved him from a custodial sentence....
Another terwat....
Whatever you have to say about him, his staff run businesses a million times better than our Government, and their appointees.
Whenever there are rumblings about a lack of pay rise/improved terms and conditions, he throws a (tax deductible) office party, gets everyone p issed and he gets away with selfies instead of salaries....
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No second homes?
Does Boris live at Chequers then?
Frankly he should be sacked! Oh sorry that won’t happen either as his boss, Bojo did the same thing by going to his ‘ second’ home to convalescence so talk about don’t do as I do but do as I say....
The (un) official Coronavirus guidelines:
1. You MUST NOT leave the house for any reason, but if you have a reason, you can leave the house
2. Masks are useless at protecting you against the virus, but you may have to wear one because it can save lives, but they may not work, but they may be mandatory, but maybe not
3. Shops are closed, except those shops that are open
4. You must not go to work but you can get another job and go to work
5. You should not go to the Drs or to the hospital unless you have to go there, unless you are too poorly to go there
6. This virus can kill people, but don’t be scared of it. It can only kill those people who are vulnerable or those people who are not vulnerable people. It’s possible to contain and control it, sometimes, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster
7. Gloves won't help, but they can still help so wear them sometimes or not
8. STAY HOME, but it's important to go out
9. There is no shortage of groceries in the supermarkets, but there are many things missing. Sometimes you won’t need loo rolls but you should buy some just in case you need some
10. The virus has no effect on children except those children it effects
11. Animals are not affected, but there is still a cat that tested positive in Belgium in February when no one had been tested, plus a few tigers here and there…
12. Stay 2 metres away from tigers (see point 11)
13. You will have many symptoms if your get the virus, but you can also get symptoms without getting the virus, get the virus without having any symptoms or be contagious without having symptoms, or be non contagious with symptoms...
14. To help protect yourself you should eat well and exercise, but eat whatever you have on hand as it's better not to go out shopping
15. It's important to get fresh air but don't go to parks but go for a walk. But don’t sit down, except if you are old, but not for too long or if you are pregnant or if you’re not old or pregnant but need to sit down. If you do sit down don’t eat your picnic
16. Don’t visit old people but you have to take care of the old people and bring them food and medication
17. If you are sick, you can go out when you are better but anyone else in your household can’t go out when you are better unless they need to go out
18. You can get restaurant food delivered to the house. These deliveries are safe. But groceries you bring back to your house have to be decontaminated outside for 3 hours including Pizza...
19. You can't see your older mother or grandmother, but they can take a taxi and meet an older taxi driver
20. You are safe if you maintain the safe social distance when out but you can’t go out with friends or strangers at the safe social distance
21. The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours ... or four hours... six hours... I mean days, not hours... But it needs a damp environment. Or a cold environment that is warm and dry... in the air, as long as the air is not plastic
22. Schools are closed so you need to home educate your children, unless you can send them to school because you’re not at home. If you are at home you can home educate your children using various portals and virtual class rooms, unless you have poor internet, or more than one child and only one computer, or you are working from home. Baking cakes can be considered maths, science or art. If you are home educating you can include household chores to be education. If you are home educating you can start drinking at 10am
23. If you are not home educating children you can also start drinking at 10am
24. The number of corona related deaths will be announced daily but we don't know how many people are infected as they are only testing those who are almost dead to find out if that's what they will die of… the people who die of corona who aren’t counted won’t be counted
25. You should stay in locked down until the virus stops infecting people but it will only stop infecting people if we all get infected so it’s important we get infected and some don’t get infected
26. You can join your neighbours for a street party and turn your music up for an outside disco and your neighbours won’t call the police. People in another street are allowed to call the police about your music
27. No business will go down due to Coronavirus except those businesses that will go down due to Coronavirus
All I can add is that the instructions to the police are also very clear, which is why they have been telling people that they shouldn't be in their front gardens, and stalking members of the public, in what have become known as non-essential supermarket aisles, as well as generally inspecting trollies for non-essential items.
Care workers will shortly be provided with PPE, in addition to their badges.
They will also be allowed to get a test soon.
Care workers in Norfolk have been advised that their nearest testing centre is in Sheffield.
The 84 tonnes of PPE that was definitely arriving from Turkey today, didn't.
We did sell China 270,00 items of PPE in February.
Should we really be accepting social distancing advice from Boris, and Matt Hancock, when they haven't been able to manage it themselves.
The just over 200 recorded deaths in care homes, could be as many as 7,500.
Boris didn't bother attending the first 5 Cobra meetings, and insisted on his weekends off.
This occurred the week before he was caught.
I believe he just made up excuses, because he was bang to rights.
If his parents are really too old and infirm, to shop, and arrange prescriptions, for themselves, they would surely have arrangements already in place.
Many people have their necessities delivered all year round, with or without an epidemic.
He surely doesn't pick a bit of shopping up for them, and sort out their prescriptions, when he is living and working in London.
He was only 40 miles away because he was at his holiday home.
If one visit was ok, why was everyone banned on Mothers Day.
They certainly do not lead by example.
Why don’t we find and employ a captain of industry from the private sector to head up and source what we need: a non political figure, just someone to step in and sort it
Oh, no let’s get a Tory politician peer to do it...Jeux sans frontiers but with frontiers....
There's still plenty of discussion in Monday's papers about how and when the coronavirus lockdown measures may be relaxed.
The Daily Mail says that, with the daily death toll at its lowest level for a fortnight, ministers are under pressure to lay out how restrictions might be eased.
The Daily Telegraph columnist Paul Nuki welcomes the government's cautious approach, writing that "a second peak would be an economic tragedy as well as a human one" which would "put UK PLC on a slab".
The paper's editorial urges ministers to be more open about the discussions being held, calling the government's refusal to discuss the matter "unacceptable". An editorial in the Sun urges people to "cut the backseat driving" and let ministers get on with making decisions away from public scrutiny.
The Telegraph's front page claims two-thirds of children are not taking part in online lessons being provided by schools. The report points out that private school pupils are twice as likely to log on - fuelling fears that educational disparities between the rich and poor could widen.
A Times editorial on the subject urges the government to prioritise the reopening of schools as quickly as possible, calling it a matter of "social justice" - citing a Norwegian scientific study that showed the future income of children from poorer backgrounds was lowered for every week of schooling they missed.
The Guardian dedicates its editorial to this week's reopening of Parliament. It calls the move "overdue", saying that "in dark days, parliamentary democracy must shine the strongest possible light on the questions that face us all".
The paper, however, makes a plea for more MPs to be involved, with current plans only allowing 50 members to be in the chamber, with another 70 taking part in debates virtually - a situation it says that could allow proceedings to be controlled by party whips.
Writing in the Times, the Conservative MP and chair of the House of Commons Procedure Committee, Karen Bradley, says that technical hitches are inevitable, as anybody who has attempted to set up a video call with colleagues, friends or family during the lockdown will know all too well.
There's a warning in the Telegraph that some of the UK's best loved seafood is at risk of extinction because of government plans to relax fishing quotas next year to help the industry survive the current crisis.
The Marine Conservation Society has told the paper that cod, eels and sea bass are all at risk of dying out. The Daily Express reports that the pandemic is also putting the Great British cuppa at risk. The paper reports that tea production has been severely affected in places like India, Sri Lanka and Malaysia, which could cause shortages and sharp prices increases.
And the Guardian says that Danish football fans will be given the chance to watch games in a unique way when the season restarts next month. With games set to be played behind closed doors, the Superliga side Midtjylland have installed giant screens in a car park outside their stadium where fans will be able to watch the action from their cars. Screens have also been installed in the ground's stands to broadcast footage of the drive-in cinema's crowd back to the players.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-52349328
I am not a Richard Branson fan, but he and people like him, seem to be able to recruit teams of people that are able to organise, and efficiently run businesses.
In the case of Branson, he seems able to do this in so many diverse areas.
In the case of the NHS, we just seem happy to make excuses.
As a business it is a complete disaster.
Yet the staff have my utmost admiration for their bravery, and service.
You could not fault the front line staff.
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has told colleagues his 'over-riding concern' is to avoid a second wave of the pandemic and a fresh spike in cases. Mr Johnson is reportedly taking a more cautious stance on when to begin reopening the economy than Chancellor Rishi Sunak and Minister for the Cabinet Office, Michael Gove who want to minimise the damage of the lockdown to businesses. Health secretary, Matt Hancock, argued that before easing restrictions the government should try to suppress the virus for longer so its transmission rate becomes much lower. It comes as it emerged pubs and restaurants could remain closed until the winter, as Mr Gove said hospitality would be 'among the last to exit the lockdown'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Hospitals are on the verge of running out of some life-saving supplies after the 84-tonne delivery from Turkey, including 400,000 protective gowns, failed to arrive last night. Medical bodies say shortages mean doctors could need to make 'difficult decisions' between exposing themselves to the virus or 'letting a patient die on their watch'. Housing Secretary Robert Jenrick announced with fanfare on Saturday that the consignment was coming, before Education Secretary Gavin Williams humiliatingly admitted last night that it had been postponed. Mr Williamson said he 'hoped' it would be in the UK today, while Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden predicted this morning that it will leave Turkey today. However, Chris Hopson, chief of NHS Providers, which represents hospital trusts, said this morning there was 'low confidence' the materials will actually arrive. 'If it is going to arrive today is will probably arrive late in the day,' he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. It comes as the death toll among health workers including frontline NHS staff and care workers hit 80 (pictured).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Chilling images (left and top and bottom right) from inside the temporary mortuary at the Central Jamia Mosque Ghamkol Sharif in Small Heath, Birmingham, have given a rare insight into the scale of the coronavirus crisis. The sobering scenes, which show dozens of coffins stacked on top of each other, comes just three weeks after the mosque in the west midlands erected the tent in an effort to deal with the increasing death toll among the Islamic faith.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
And yet.
Who is best placed to arrange for PPE? The Government? That would be the people who have no previous dealings with the suppliers, and zero experience of logistics.
Why do the NHS get a free pass here? They are one of the 10 largest employers in the world. The largest healthcare provider in the world. That employs some 1.7 million people. Which will include thousands of logistic experts-even before this pandemic they were providing and arranging logistics on a massive scale. The people who have years of building up relationships as the largest single healthcare purchaser in the world.
I used to run a small-medium firm of solicitors. As such, it was compulsory to have a detailed Business Recovery Plan (often called a Disaster Plan).
So why does the NHS not have a detailed plan? In relation to a health pandemic. when it was always a question of if, rather than when, one would appear. This is just not acceptable.
Why is it providing no leadership in relation to the way forward? It employs thousands of Managers, and yet (apparently) none that can actually help. I'm sure "science" (actually, it's just UK science, and ignore the "foreign" science) and Universities have a part to play. So why not the health provider?
The Chief Executive of the NHS oversees £120 billion of annual spending. Anyone seen him? Or even knows who he is?
The front line of the NHS deserve our applause. The Management deserve the disdain currently reserved for this Government.
There is an unofficial( unauthorised) biography done on him, which he tried and failed to get an injunction to stop the publication...fascinating read
Especially the part where, when he was in court for tax evasions in the virgin record days( and see how he could sell records so cheap?) his mother as a character witness saved him from a custodial sentence....
Another terwat....
PPE is a good example where we apparently rejected some gowns etc from China because they did not comply or have a certificate that they did not comply with our standards.
The standards were mostly to do with ensuring that children could not choke themselves on the garment ties.
This is a pandemic ffs. Can they not see the wood for the trees?
The NHS managers wish to blame underfunding for all their problems.
No private sector business would accept the failure to address similar problems recurring time and time again, without heads rolling.
Top managers that are unable to solve fairly straightforward problems, shouldn't remain in their posts.
If the whole organisation is failing then the top man should be replaced.
I think Matt Hancock is a D1CK, and he gets on my nerves every time he is interviewed.
He also annoys me when he sits at the side of Boris at PMQs, with his dead serious face on, nodding in agreement for the cameras, in response to anything Boris says.
Boris may well have him in mind for the scapegoat when this is all over.
There was a recent fraud programme on BBC, where the staff get away with billions of pounds worth of stuff every year.
They buy jars of cream for over £1300 that should cost 50p.
The waiting times keep increasing.
There was a Winter problem every year, which they have turned into a year round problem.
They have had a recruitment problem, that they can never solve.
They seem to just accept failure in so many areas, and blame lack of funding for everything.
They have bought the wrong ventilators, and tests that don't work.