I actually agree with @Arrogant (despite the fact he seems to knock me out of every tournament we're in together). I think offering expert coaching to players on such a small site, especially when the player pool appears to be continually reducing in size along with the tournament guarantees - is a really short-sighted approach which will harm lots of people's bottom line going forwards (yes, mine included). Perhaps this *one* coach who coaches *five* students won't have too much of an effect, but as Arrogant mentions, when this turns into one or multiple coaches working with an increasing number of students, I really believe the days of Sky Poker as we know it are coming to an increasingly rapid end. Short-termism doesn't work for anyone in the long-term... Just my two cents...
What if an already winning player gets coaching? Is it an issue then?
Lets get this completely straight... those who want to improve will improve... if that is off there own back or with the help of a coach it does not matter.
I improved from a losing player many many years ago because I had the motivation to do so.
Players who punt will always punt, because they dont have the motivation to improve and no desire to get better. They enjoy the thrill of gambling and hopefully enjoy poker... as a punt.
Winners will win at varying rates and that is a mixture of ability and motivation to improve.
Long story short those who want to get better will... and to think you can stop them by 1 or 2 people offering coaching is ridiculous.
All you need to do is flick youtube on for an hour a day now and you will become a much better player
Reading some of the anti coaching comments (almost) makes me feel I should contact those who regularly win on this site and offer them any prize/bounty money I have won thanks to some helpful advice (coaching) received recently. I am starting to feel guilty for depriving you of this money.
If you were offering coaching on major sites and not just this tiny one it would make more sense for everyone involved, as tk mentioned pokerstars has already showed interest in buying this lot out, and as arrogant pointed out why would u want to increase a few peoples abilities in such a tiny pool, surely doesnt make sense. Gl in whatever u decide to do tho
If you were offering coaching on major sites and not just this tiny one it would make more sense for everyone involved, as tk mentioned pokerstars has already showed interest in buying this lot out, and as arrogant pointed out why would u want to increase a few peoples abilities in such a tiny pool, surely doesnt make sense. Gl in whatever u decide to do tho
Coaching has always been something i been tempted to do. time seems right to offer my services as a coach. Fell i have a v strong knowledge of sky player pool. so can help sky only grinders. But also can help sky players wishing to play other sites where the play is different to sky.
If you were offering coaching on major sites and not just this tiny one it would make more sense for everyone involved, as tk mentioned pokerstars has already showed interest in buying this lot out, and as arrogant pointed out why would u want to increase a few peoples abilities in such a tiny pool, surely doesnt make sense. Gl in whatever u decide to do tho
Jog on u **** saying what im doing could be collusion. Im not just offering coaching just for sky. i do coaching for live guys to help online. My win rate is dropping jog on again my win rate is highest its even been. Also why dont i up my volume on other sites i do graph below of 12 months mtts on sky and off sky also around 1000 mtts not tracked on unibet and grosvenor live games..Dont u dare say what i am doing is collusion that word sticks and even though its so off point . getting sick of small minority saying **** now basically u dont like the fact u wont win anymore. Rather then getting better yourself u think u can do nothing and still win.
Also coaching on sky been around long time. z players didnt get abuse im getting. all in all all gd just dont say what im doing is collusion. say im **** all u wont. but i have never colluded on a poker table in my life.
Wtf are you talking about @steveysee? You're one of the most irritating people on this site. Little whiney chatbox warrior who loves nothing better than to bash casual players in chat while simultaneously not playing great and then have the audacity to say Chris offering coaching is bad for the small player pool....
Maybe Chris wants to give back to a site that has given him a lot? Maybe he enjoys teaching and the reward of having students improve? There are plenty of people hungry to learn and studying poker is a bit more than 'giving up player notes', maybe if you ever studied poker you'd know that and not be so scared of Chris's students hurting your 5% roi in the deepstack.....
Wtf are you talking about @steveysee? You're one of the most irritating people on this site. Little whiney chatbox warrior who hungry to learn and studying poker is a bit more than 'giving up player notes', maybe if you ever studied poker you'd know that and not be so scared of Chris's students hurting your 5% roi in the deepstack.....
+1 to @rspca12 - People posting inane BS in response to him offering to help others is astounding.
Go look at 2+2 and on here at some of the players who have offered Sky coaching in the past - You'll find people offering coaching, who: 1) Don't have good enough results to back up their prices 2) Have no place coaching anyone with their results, even at micros 3) Have a less than stellar reputation on Sky or in the wider Poker community 4) Attach a bunch of dodgy terms to their coaching, e.g. have to pay up front for X lessons then go AWOL, making it difficult/impossible for players to get the service they've paid for 5) Only offer coaching to people who accept stakes that are terrible value for the horse etc.
Go pick on those people and leave @rspca12 alone. Chris is an honest and well-respected reg on here, who has good enough results online across several sites and live to be able to help people improve.
With the assortment of toxic people, trolls, racists and regular 'waaaaaa it's rigged' clowns on here, it's a small miracle that the likes of @rspca12, @NOSTRI, @Duesenberg, @j3ono & others still find the time to try and keep what little semblance of community this place has left going. If Sky could actually do something about the toxic elements of this community while we still have a community, that would be fantastic.
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Lets get this completely straight... those who want to improve will improve... if that is off there own back or with the help of a coach it does not matter.
I improved from a losing player many many years ago because I had the motivation to do so.
Players who punt will always punt, because they dont have the motivation to improve and no desire to get better. They enjoy the thrill of gambling and hopefully enjoy poker... as a punt.
Winners will win at varying rates and that is a mixture of ability and motivation to improve.
Long story short those who want to get better will... and to think you can stop them by 1 or 2 people offering coaching is ridiculous.
All you need to do is flick youtube on for an hour a day now and you will become a much better player
That means this thread has racked up views 15000% faster.
Hard work and determination wins again
don't wanna make people better after all.
Maybe we should also stop chatting to other players on skype too.
Maybe Chris wants to give back to a site that has given him a lot? Maybe he enjoys teaching and the reward of having students improve? There are plenty of people hungry to learn and studying poker is a bit more than 'giving up player notes', maybe if you ever studied poker you'd know that and not be so scared of Chris's students hurting your 5% roi in the deepstack.....
Go look at 2+2 and on here at some of the players who have offered Sky coaching in the past - You'll find people offering coaching, who:
1) Don't have good enough results to back up their prices
2) Have no place coaching anyone with their results, even at micros
3) Have a less than stellar reputation on Sky or in the wider Poker community
4) Attach a bunch of dodgy terms to their coaching, e.g. have to pay up front for X lessons then go AWOL, making it difficult/impossible for players to get the service they've paid for
5) Only offer coaching to people who accept stakes that are terrible value for the horse
etc.
Go pick on those people and leave @rspca12 alone. Chris is an honest and well-respected reg on here, who has good enough results online across several sites and live to be able to help people improve.
With the assortment of toxic people, trolls, racists and regular 'waaaaaa it's rigged' clowns on here, it's a small miracle that the likes of @rspca12, @NOSTRI, @Duesenberg, @j3ono & others still find the time to try and keep what little semblance of community this place has left going. If Sky could actually do something about the toxic elements of this community while we still have a community, that would be fantastic.