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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,817
    edited April 22
    @bongo69


    "This is why I'm tired of this site. Every time the dominated hand hits".


    The mind plays tricks on us. It's not EVERY time, is it? Sometimes it just feels that way though.

    "Tired of this site". Do you think that these things only happen on Sky Poker? "Tired of poker" probably describes it better.

    As long as you play poker, & wherever you play poker (Online or Live) these things will ALWAYS happen.

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    stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,638
    Tikay10 said:

    @bongo69


    "This is why I'm tired of this site. Every time the dominated hand hits".


    The mind plays tricks on us. It's not EVERY time, is it? Sometimes it just feels that way though.

    "Tired of this site". Do you think that these things only happen on Sky Poker? "Tired of poker" probably describes it better.

    As long as you play poker, & wherever you play poker (Online or Live) these things will ALWAYS happen.


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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    edited April 24
    Tourney number one of the night...flopped set over set. Apparently this happens around once every 12.6k hands.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Taximan1Small blind50.0050.002125.00
    bongo69Big blind100.00150.003100.00
    Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
    madphilCall100.00250.002240.00
    KR79Call100.00350.007965.00
    DudkFold
    ozzieowenRaise400.00750.002680.00
    Taximan1Call350.001100.001775.00
    bongo69Call300.001400.002800.00
    madphilFold
    KR79Call300.001700.007665.00
    Flop
    • 4
    • 8
    • Q
    Taximan1Check
    bongo69Check
    KR79Check
    ozzieowenCheck
    Turn
    • J
    Taximan1Check
    bongo69Bet850.002550.001950.00
    KR79Fold
    ozzieowenCall850.003400.001830.00
    Taximan1Call850.004250.00925.00
    River
    • 6
    Taximan1Check
    bongo69All-in1950.006200.000.00
    ozzieowenAll-in1830.008030.000.00
    Taximan1Fold
    bongo69Unmatched bet120.007910.00120.00
    bongo69Show
    • 8
    • 8
    ozzieowenShow
    • Q
    • Q
    ozzieowenWinThree Queens7910.007910.00
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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    edited April 24
    Of course it will always happen Tony. Variance, right?

    Turns out over the last week it's not every time a dominated hand has sucked out. I've won 42% of those spots, where going into them I've had about 70% equity.

    Would love to get hold of a bigger sample size, to see the extent to which it's my mind playing tricks. Is it possible to get my hand hsitory from say the last year?
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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    Second tourney of the night...get it in with 88% equity and one card to come.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    ryan02139Small blind30.0030.002670.00
    danbrad029Big blind60.0090.001530.00
    Your hole cards
    • Q
    • Q
    NiceMikeFold
    jamnchazFold
    HawkinniFold
    bongo69Raise180.00270.002115.00
    ryan02139Call150.00420.002520.00
    danbrad029Call120.00540.001410.00
    Flop
    • 3
    • 2
    • 3
    ryan02139Check
    danbrad029Bet240.00780.001170.00
    bongo69Call240.001020.001875.00
    ryan02139Fold
    Turn
    • 9
    danbrad029Check
    bongo69Bet765.001785.001110.00
    danbrad029All-in1170.002955.000.00
    bongo69Call405.003360.00705.00
    danbrad029Show
    • A
    • 2
    bongo69Show
    • Q
    • Q
    River
    • 2
    danbrad029WinFull House, 2s and 3s3360.003360.00
    Sure, 12% of the time he'll spike. Doesnt feel like 12% of the time though.
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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    Make that one more suck out...
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    HawkinniSmall blind75.0075.003025.00
    bongo69Big blind150.00225.002300.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
    VegasChasRaise525.00750.001100.00
    jamnchazFold
    HawkinniFold
    bongo69All-in2300.003050.000.00
    VegasChasAll-in1100.004150.000.00
    bongo69Unmatched bet825.003325.00825.00
    bongo69Show
    • A
    • K
    VegasChasShow
    • 4
    • A
    Flop
    • J
    • 4
    • 9
    Turn
    • 4
    River
    • 7
    VegasChasWinThree 4s3325.003325.00
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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    edited April 24
    First hand in my first tourney of the night. Maybe I could've ripped it in pre with 10bb. But recent experience suggests if I do I run into QJ off who spikes a Q on the turn or river. Or by someone calling with J6 and amking trips by the river. Tonight, to mix things up, I get looked up by the BB who wants to defend against an UTG raise, out of position with 83. 8 fcuking 3. And the unlikeliest of flops soon sees my 86% equity pre soon vanish to being a 27% dog.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    25184852Small blind75.0075.00335.00
    BuckaroooBig blind150.00225.005070.00
    Your hole cards
    • J
    • J
    bongo69Raise450.00675.00970.00
    Hod4k997Fold
    JLBocoFold
    25184852Fold
    BuckaroooCall300.00975.004770.00
    Flop
    • 8
    • 7
    • 3
    BuckaroooCheck
    bongo69All-in970.001945.000.00
    BuckaroooCall970.002915.003800.00
    BuckaroooShow
    • 8
    • 3
    bongo69Show
    • J
    • J
    Turn
    • K
    River
    • 10
    BuckaroooWinTwo Pairs, 8s and 3s2915.006715.00
    This week...winning just 37% of the spots where I get it in with 70% equity. Finding myself the wrong side of a 1 in 12,000 hand set over set cooler. Losing the spots I find myself in with +85% equity pre. Running bad? Doesnt even begin to cover it...

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    Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,478
    It could be rigged against you.
    Or you could be very poor at poker.

    Probs one of the two.
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    bongo69bongo69 Member Posts: 198
    Yeah, maybe.

    I got it in 8 times in a week in dominating spots with 70% equity. And won 3 of them. I got it in with 88% equity and he spiked a 12% river. I got it in with a set to be up against a better set (a one in 12,000 hand spot). Last tiourney of the night tonight this...
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    addy79Small blind50.0050.001850.00
    church1llBig blind100.00150.001690.00
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    Dizzyseb18Fold
    danbrad029Fold
    888999000Raise500.00650.008815.00
    bongo69Call500.001150.001775.00
    addy79Fold
    church1llFold
    Flop
    • 2
    • 2
    • Q
    888999000Check
    bongo69Bet862.502012.50912.50
    888999000All-in8815.0010827.500.00
    bongo69All-in912.5011740.000.00
    888999000Unmatched bet7040.004700.007040.00
    888999000Show
    • Q
    • Q
    bongo69Show
    • K
    • K
    Turn
    • 3
    River
    • 10
    888999000WinFull House, Queens and 2s4700.0011740.00
    ...another 20% suck out.

    Aside from one highly improbable spot where I was miles behind, I'm getting it in miles ahead and losing the maority of those spots.

    But would love to get some coaching from you about how you'd have played these spots differently.
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    radzer02radzer02 Member Posts: 135
    edited May 1
    75 off?????
    SKY has the biggest collection of these players
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    SMARTGOATSmall blind15.0015.00955.00
    radzer02Big blind30.0045.00610.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    sheila1960Call30.0075.00550.00
    fiona1977Fold
    XSTREAMFold
    ALPOTH18Call30.00105.00895.00
    SMARTGOATFold
    radzer02Raise105.00210.00505.00
    sheila1960Call105.00315.00445.00
    ALPOTH18Fold
    Flop
    • 7
    • Q
    • 4
    radzer02Bet180.00495.00325.00
    sheila1960Call180.00675.00265.00
    Turn
    • 7
    radzer02All-in325.001000.000.00
    sheila1960All-in265.001265.000.00
    radzer02Unmatched bet60.001205.0060.00
    radzer02Show
    • A
    • A
    sheila1960Show
    • 5
    • 7
    River
    • 8
    sheila1960WinThree 7s1205.001205.00
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    radzer02radzer02 Member Posts: 135
    edited May 1
    Ah sure add a 73 off.... it's Sky
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    gavin1972Small blind150.00150.002955.00
    radzer02Big blind300.00450.00850.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    SMARTGOATFold
    EssexphilFold
    gavin1972Raise1050.001500.001905.00
    radzer02All-in850.002350.000.00
    gavin1972Unmatched bet50.002300.001955.00
    gavin1972Show
    • 3
    • 7
    radzer02Show
    • A
    • A
    Flop
    • 10
    • 7
    • 5
    Turn
    • 6
    River
    • 7
    gavin1972WinThree 7s2300.004255.00
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    radzer02radzer02 Member Posts: 135
    Classic SKY runner runner, this time Quads
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    VARGYSmall blind25.0025.00855.00
    JCordyBig blind50.0075.00980.00
    Your hole cards
    • 4
    • 4
    tuckiFold
    radzer02Raise175.00250.001245.00
    junior10Fold
    LukasRayFold
    VARGYFold
    JCordyCall125.00375.00855.00
    Flop
    • A
    • 9
    • 4
    JCordyCheck
    radzer02Bet150.00525.001095.00
    JCordyCall150.00675.00705.00
    Turn
    • A
    JCordyCheck
    radzer02Bet350.001025.00745.00
    JCordyCall350.001375.00355.00
    River
    • A
    JCordyAll-in355.001730.000.00
    radzer02Call355.002085.00390.00
    JCordyShow
    • J
    • A
    radzer02Show
    • 4
    • 4
    JCordyWinFour Aces2085.002085.00
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    radzer02radzer02 Member Posts: 135
    After runner runner quads next table flopped quads
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    djsppirosSmall blind100.00100.00435.00
    miraj1987Big blind200.00300.00820.00
    Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
    Lawsonn6Raise800.001100.00660.00
    Benson923All-in1005.002105.000.00
    ReddishFold
    radzer02All-in1125.003230.000.00
    djsppirosFold
    miraj1987Fold
    Lawsonn6Call325.003555.00335.00
    Lawsonn6Show
    • J
    • A
    Benson923Show
    • 10
    • 10
    radzer02Show
    • K
    • K
    Flop
    • 6
    • 10
    • 10
    Turn
    • 8
    River
    • 9
    Benson923WinFour 10s3315.003315.00
    radzer02WinTwo Pairs, Kings and 10s240.00240.00
    Then flopped trips
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Benson923Small blind100.00100.003315.00
    ReddishBig blind200.00300.00955.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    radzer02All-in240.00540.000.00
    djsppirosFold
    miraj1987Fold
    Lawsonn6Fold
    Benson923All-in3315.003855.000.00
    ReddishFold
    Benson923Unmatched bet3175.00680.003175.00
    Benson923Show
    • Q
    • J
    radzer02Show
    • A
    • 10
    Flop
    • Q
    • Q
    • 10
    Turn
    • 4
    River
    • A
    Benson923WinThree Queens680.003855.00
    And of course wouldn't be Sky without the dominated hand calling a re raise all in and winning
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    radzer02Small blind40.0040.00605.00
    miraj1987Big blind80.00120.002515.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 10
    girlygirl9Fold
    saviour09Raise320.00440.00365.00
    radzer02All-in605.001045.000.00
    miraj1987Fold
    saviour09Call325.001370.0040.00
    radzer02Show
    • A
    • 10
    saviour09Show
    • 10
    • Q
    Flop
    • 2
    • Q
    • 8
    Turn
    • 6
    River
    • 5
    saviour09WinPair of Queens1370.001410.00
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