So sick of this game, my life would be better without it, all that I achieve is more failure no matter what I don't. Cant even believe how p****** I feel now writing this, such b****** This says it all.. A game/hobby shouldn't make you feel so angry and/frustrated down about things, don't need to tell you there is more important things in life, take a break withdraw all your money do whatever just don't keep making yourself feel awful because of a game of poker, not worth the hassle. Posted by benc
It's a good point I was thinking the same. How's everything going in your game?
In Response to Re: ONE TIME!.....another diary. : Because he isnt calling a worse hand on the turn. And A5, I just so hate the call and with it being oop as well.......... Unfortunatly you have not improved the mental game. Complete split personalities. When winning its the best thing in the world, and when losing you seem to have so much anger. I would suggest time time at 4nl, the money might mean less, but I think that is good for you right now. Either that or take a break. Posted by calcalfold
But it wasn't down for value, it's a bluff when a scare card comes
I won be playing 4nl or taking a break I don't think, I worked on my mental game and hadn't even been near tilting. just going to read it some more and go again in the hope things will turn around.
7 buy-ins isn't great but not that unusual.i've lost that and more and know just how you feel mate. as benc says it's a game/hobby and you should treat it that way. yes you have worked hard trying to improve your game which is good and you should be commended for that. how people play against you is out of your control mate and you have to adjust your play against each player. imo you need to tighten your play. you are losing too many hands un-necessarily by getting involved when you should/could be folding pre-flop.
the qj & a5 suited for ex look good p/f but you didn't hit the flush both times and lost the maximum. that is just bad play imo as you are gambling when you really don't need to especially at the levels being played. if I were you I would make a list up of hands to play and stick to it. mine would read something like; ak aq aj in position all pairs obviously with the intention of hitting a set,if I miss then it's normally a fold afterwards. i'm never going to war with just 1 pair.maybe aa or kk being the exception. fold all A rags even suited... ALWAYS. kq kj even suited again looks good p/f but don't get too excited by them. again we don't want to be losing big pots with them.win little...lose little.
once you lose a big pot or more ie; 2 buy-ins+ it's now all about damage limitation for me. we try and grind it back slowly. going mad and chasing drawing hands is never great. you should even think about finishing the session and accept losing the 2 buy-ins. also,if you are playing 4/6 tables maybe drop it to just 2. that will help stop the bleeding.
there are lots of things that you can do Robbie,and I've mentioned just a few. you need to make changes.don't blame anyone but yourself when you lose,i don't. if you put money in the pot then that's your choice no-one elses. you win some...you lose some.
you are struggling with 'the mental side of poker' obviously,and it's going to be a daily struggle for you to beat it. you can beat it though,but it will take some time.
also,if losing 6/7 buy-ins etc makes you feel this way,you are playing at to high a level for your b/roll. yes losing £60/£70 hurts of course it does. but you should either accept it or drop down levels so it then doesn't hurt so bad. why do you think i'm now playing 1c/2c? it's not because I can't afford to play higher,of course I can. i'm enjoying the challenge of building my roll from nothing..(ok $7 then). maybe it is something you could think of doing?
anyway Robbie, whatever you decide to do is up to you,no-one else. best wishes mate, (* *) ^ dev
Robbie, 7 buy-ins isn't great but not that unusual.i've lost that and more and know just how you feel mate. as benc says it's a game/hobby and you should treat it that way. yes you have worked hard trying to improve your game which is good and you should be commended for that. how people play against you is out of your control mate and you have to adjust your play against each player. imo you need to tighten your play. you are losing too many hands un-necessarily by getting involved when you should/could be folding pre-flop. the qj & a5 suited for ex look good p/f but you didn't hit the flush both times and lost the maximum. that is just bad play imo as you are gambling when you really don't need to especially at the levels being played. if I were you I would make a list up of hands to play and stick to it. mine would read something like; ak aq aj in position all pairs obviously with the intention of hitting a set,if I miss then it's normally a fold afterwards. i'm never going to war with just 1 pair.maybe aa or kk being the exception. fold all A rags even suited... ALWAYS. kq kj even suited again looks good p/f but don't get too excited by them. again we don't want to be losing big pots with them.win little...lose little. once you lose a big pot or more ie; 2 buy-ins+ it's now all about damage limitation for me. we try and grind it back slowly. going mad and chasing drawing hands is never great. you should even think about finishing the session and accept losing the 2 buy-ins. also,if you are playing 4/6 tables maybe drop it to just 2. that will help stop the bleeding. there are lots of things that you can do Robbie,and I've mentioned just a few. you need to make changes.don't blame anyone but yourself when you lose,i don't. if you put money in the pot then that's your choice no-one elses. you win some...you lose some. you are struggling with 'the mental side of poker' obviously,and it's going to be a daily struggle for you to beat it. you can beat it though,but it will take some time. also,if losing 6/7 buy-ins etc makes you feel this way,you are playing at to high a level for your b/roll. yes losing £60/£70 hurts of course it does. but you should either accept it or drop down levels so it then doesn't hurt so bad. why do you think i'm now playing 1c/2c? it's not because I can't afford to play higher,of course I can. i'm enjoying the challenge of building my roll from nothing..(ok $7 then). maybe it is something you could think of doing? anyway Robbie, whatever you decide to do is up to you,no-one else. best wishes mate, (* *) ^ dev Posted by devonfish5
Yeah I know its just the fact that I was starting a BR and wanted to build it up and now iv had this start it will just take a lot longer. Its more frustrating then anything . My mental side has always been my worst problem, iv constantly read stuff and looked for help and I thought it had improved a lot but obv yesterday shows not as much as I thought. The tables im fine with and the level I play im fine. Losing £60-70 isn't nice but saying it in "buy ins" helps and tbh I don't really worry about losing money, as long as im confident I know how to solve things to get it back, which I think ill turn this BR around, would just be nice to be infront instead of behide. Last time I had this BR I needed the promotion and long grinds to win 40buy ins in about a month, so I done all that and was only actually about 12 buy ins up. Never mind BR are swingy I suppose, just worried I now only have 21 buy ins.
The strategy advice I agree with, I wouldn't play those hands from that position if I was playing normally so why do It now when im losing. Also I wouldn't of shoved for the draws either, the JQ I don't mind but the a5 one I think is awful play on all steets, I shouldn't even of been opening from utg with it. Just cant seem to do the things I know which are correct.
Thanks for the advice, im going out today for about but will be online early afternoon starting the recovery mission. What site you now playing on , is it one with 3 numbers in a row? thought I remember you saying it was that.
"also,if losing 6/7 buy-ins etc makes you feel this way,you are playing at to high a level for your b/roll." This times about 7 billion Unfortunatly ego often gets in the way of progression. Posted by calcalfold
Its not the money like I said its just the fact im losing....come on you cant honestly say you look back when you've had a losing day and feel nothing at all?
I reject its anything to do with ego, why would I constantly say things arnt good enough with my play, drop down to 10 nl, build a BR from scratch even though I could start one bigger with tourney winnings and always ask for advice if I have a big ego?
If that was true I would just turn up, think im better then everyone and just play.
Robbie buddy, if you lost 7bi at free money tables would you be posting this much anger?
Well, I have never lost 7bi in a 4nl session, but I never go crazy no. Sure its a bit annoying, but knowing that it is near on impossible to win every session its not a bother.
Have a lot at some of the year graphs on 2+2. Look at the swongs.
Okay fair enough, I was just doing it to vary my play, somthing abit unpredictable.
No prob not but if I was being serious and wanted to win I'd be dissapointed. 7 is prob my biggest ever I think, and about 2/3 buy ins were lost through silliness, that's the frustrating bit.
Okay ill have a look at them thanks. I still find variance tough to deal with.
hey robbie not posted for a bit kinda been takin easy the last few days so not been on a great deal good have you back.
regarding the swings you have had 7bi`s is not much at all as you know I play 20/30nl and there is days i`m having swings of around £200 which can be quite frustrating but you just have to blank it out keep playing your game and be confident in you own game to turn it around which I know you can.
also regarding the 75 hand I like you are adding these type of hands in to your 3bet range, only downfall I have is after the flop and turn you have just took a passive line basically giving him control in the hand. By doing so he has got there on turn ,not saying i`m right in saying this but when he donks into you on the flop on that dry 9 high board seems weak to me.
Think about it this way if you had overpair in this spot you would prob raise the flop so why not do it here and rep a big hand and take control. there will be occasions they do have the 9 and they don`t fold flop,they are a lot of turn and river cards that they would be scared of and you can then turn your pair of sevens into bluff and take them off the pot with further agression,this will obviously depend on what kind of opponent you have if it`s just a calling station I would never take this line.
hope this helps and makes sense trying a different line mind pm if you need help with anything buddy
hey robbie not posted for a bit kinda been takin easy the last few days so not been on a great deal good have you back. regarding the swings you have had 7bi`s is not much at all as you know I play 20/30nl and there is days i`m having swings of around £200 which can be quite frustrating but you just have to blank it out keep playing your game and be confident in you own game to turn it around which I know you can. also regarding the 75 hand I like you are adding these type of hands in to your 3bet range, only downfall I have is after the flop and turn you have just took a passive line basically giving him control in the hand. By doing so he has got there on turn ,not saying i`m right in saying this but when he donks into you on the flop on that dry 9 high board seems weak to me. Think about it this way if you had overpair in this spot you would prob raise the flop so why not do it here and rep a big hand and take control. there will be occasions they do have the 9 and they don`t fold flop,they are a lot of turn and river cards that they would be scared of and you can then turn your pair of sevens into bluff and take them off the pot with further agression,this will obviously depend on what kind of opponent you have if it`s just a calling station I would never take this line. hope this helps and makes sense trying a different line mind pm if you need help with anything buddy Posted by liamboi11
hmm I think on a board that dry im not always going to be raising the flop, but point taken. Thanks if I need to talk ill pm, thankyou .
yes Robbie i am playing the same other site as you. gl mate.you know all my comments are only said to try and help you. i know you are a good player mate,and i am in no position to tell you how to play. but i do think you have a number of leaks (which i guess we all do),and it's not always easy to see them for yourself, sometimes. i have had loads pointed out to me and it has helped my game 1,000,000% i think you would benefit from some advice from a higher stake player mate.i know Liamboi would be more than happy to help you,and i think if i were you i would ask him for some h/h advice by PM.
Bad news again, another 3 buy in losing day. Feel dejected tbh, just fed up. My BR is over iv got just under 18 buy ins for 10nl, a level full of fish and I still cant win. How did I ever manage to win all those buy ins at 10nl recently? lol Same old story really, run awful, didn't hit anything and had the absolutely diabolical hand I include every session. Happy on the whole how I played today, after yesterday and my confident being so low, I was disciplined pre flop with my decision and got my hand selection correct. Post flop like I said there was 2 hands I think were poor but apart from that I think I done good. Had my bit of paper to write my thoughts on so it didn't build up and I didn't tilt, and it worked mentally I was fine. Yeah that's about all I got to say today. Shame things didn't happen today the tables were loose and if I hit even top pair I think I would of been playing for stacks.
This in my whole 4 years of playing is my worst ever start/ couple of days. Tbh I felt disgusting when I went to bed last night, today im disappointed but what can I do? not going to let it ruin my day really. One thing I realised is that I wasted so much time working on my game, some people just cant be good at poker, it requires a lot of different attributes and I just cant get the hang of it. Think im mostly done playing and believing there's money to be made from poker, there not, were all trying but all as bad as each other. Just my opinion but I couldn't have done anything more to improve.
Just as Dev said above robbie mate, if Liamboi is offering you free advice you should snap his hand off.
Imo liamboi is one of the best regs at the 20/50nl levels on site and could easily beat the game at higher levels and your game will come on loads for his help.
The diabolical hand. The guy is a fish literally one of the worst players I played against on the site. I check flop and was cb a very low % because there was no point to cb, I c/c turn thinking his done that because we both checked and I still prob got the best hand, the river comes I now think the board beats us. I look at the pot and think not worth it....then I think why should he be shoving me around his proved how bad his play is by constantly bluffing etc. So I call. It then hit me that in fact iv lost 120bb which A high.....too a fish. Iv also realised writing this that in fact if he had an 8 he still woulda had me beat. After 2/3 years of working on me game, I didn't write all this that your reading I have to laugh at myself otherwise I will cry. Hope it gives u a laugh aswell.
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Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
kgee
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£12.13
robbie1992
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£20.43
Your hole cards
K
K
Pisto
Fold
Carnage
Fold
SPAMHEAD77
Fold
bettingbox
Raise
£0.40
£0.55
£13.58
kgee
Fold
robbie1992
Raise
£1.10
£1.65
£19.33
bettingbox
Call
£0.80
£2.45
£12.78
Flop
4
3
10
robbie1992
Check
bettingbox
Bet
£1.84
£4.29
£10.94
robbie1992
Raise
£4.60
£8.89
£14.73
bettingbox
All-in
£10.94
£19.83
£0.00
robbie1992
All-in
£14.73
£34.56
£0.00
robbie1992
Unmatched bet
£6.55
£28.01
£6.55
robbie1992
Show
K
K
bettingbox
Show
4
4
Turn
Q
River
2
bettingbox
Win
Three 4s
£26.61
£26.61
Biggest pot of the day, just unlucky.
3)
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Pisto
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£10.72
LB438
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£8.62
Your hole cards
A
A
Carnage
Raise
£0.40
£0.55
£9.10
robbie1992
Raise
£1.20
£1.75
£8.30
arrow127
Fold
Pisto
Fold
LB438
Fold
Carnage
Call
£0.80
£2.55
£8.30
Flop
3
6
6
Carnage
Check
robbie1992
Bet
£1.80
£4.35
£6.50
Carnage
Call
£1.80
£6.15
£6.50
Turn
5
Carnage
Check
robbie1992
All-in
£6.50
£12.65
£0.00
Carnage
All-in
£6.50
£19.15
£0.00
Carnage
Show
6
6
robbie1992
Show
A
A
River
2
Carnage
Win
Four 6s
£17.75
£17.75
think I played this good, was waiting to see his QQ, just unlucky.
4)
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
Carnage
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£9.70
bobstout23
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£9.00
Your hole cards
A
Q
bettingbox
Fold
kabba
Fold
robbie1992
Raise
£0.30
£0.45
£9.70
tigergaz
Call
£0.30
£0.75
£6.79
Carnage
Fold
bobstout23
Call
£0.20
£0.95
£8.80
Flop
3
A
9
bobstout23
Check
robbie1992
Bet
£0.48
£1.43
£9.22
tigergaz
Raise
£2.39
£3.82
£4.40
bobstout23
Fold
robbie1992
Call
£1.91
£5.73
£7.31
Turn
6
robbie1992
Check
tigergaz
All-in
£4.40
£10.13
£0.00
robbie1992
Call
£4.40
£14.53
£2.91
robbie1992
Show
A
Q
tigergaz
Show
A
3
River
K
tigergaz
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and 3s
£13.44
£13.44
This is a fold on the flop, even if my notes on the player says it isn't.
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Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
albaking
Small blind
£0.10
£0.10
£3.45
RICHIE_UK
Big blind
£0.10
£0.20
£11.58
Your hole cards
J
A
Appleart
Call
£0.10
£0.30
£21.08
SMV
Raise
£0.50
£0.80
£4.90
ianreyneke
Fold
robbie1992
Call
£0.50
£1.30
£16.78
albaking
Fold
RICHIE_UK
Fold
Appleart
Call
£0.40
£1.70
£20.68
Flop
5
2
J
Appleart
Check
SMV
Bet
£1.28
£2.98
£3.62
robbie1992
Call
£1.28
£4.26
£15.50
Appleart
Call
£1.28
£5.54
£19.40
Turn
10
Appleart
Check
SMV
All-in
£3.62
£9.16
£0.00
robbie1992
Call
£3.62
£12.78
£11.88
Appleart
All-in
£19.40
£32.18
£0.00
robbie1992
Fold
Appleart
Unmatched bet
£15.78
£16.40
£15.78
Appleart
Show
2
2
SMV
Show
Q
K
River
6
Appleart
Win
Three 2s
£15.17
£30.95
Same fish from hand 1, if he plays it fast on the flop I lose my stack, id never ever ever fold this on the flop .
yes Robbie i am playing the same other site as you. gl mate.you know all my comments are only said to try and help you. i know you are a good player mate,and i am in no position to tell you how to play. but i do think you have a number of leaks (which i guess we all do),and it's not always easy to see them for yourself, sometimes. i have had loads pointed out to me and it has helped my game 1,000,000% i think you would benefit from some advice from a higher stake player mate.i know Liamboi would be more than happy to help you,and i think if i were you i would ask him for some h/h advice by PM. gl buddy, dev Posted by devonfish5
I think im a good player, but im massively unstable mentally and strategy wise lol I do have a number of leaks which I cant find myself my hands make sense to me because its all I no. Yeah I think I will message him. I wished I had someone to work with everyday, I know no one that has any interest in poker tbh.
you always feel bad straight after losing mate,as we all do,and posting straight afterwards will always be about how bad you are feeling. in the cold light of the next day losing 3 buy's won't feel so bad. post your worst 2 or 3 losing hands to Liamboii and see what he thinks. I bet he will find something that maybe you are not seeing. that's my best advice right now mate. gl dev
Bit of advice on the hands ive just looked at without mentioning any of the players involved it seems to me that you are paying off players who are not capable of betting strong unless they actually are strong and as such dont balance their ranges well.
These types of player are the easiest to beat and all you need to do is take more notice of their tendencies in play and adjust your own game to deal with them.
Just make a few notes on certain players eg: weak limper, calling machine etc etc and take note of how often they actually show aggression or just call down and you will find that the times they are actually showing aggression are the times when you should be folding asap.
you always feel bad straight after losing mate,as we all do,and posting straight afterwards will always be about how bad you are feeling. in the cold light of the next day losing 3 buy's won't feel so bad. post your worst 2 or 3 losing hands to Liamboii and see what he thinks. I bet he will find something that maybe you are not seeing. that's my best advice right now mate. gl dev Posted by devonfish5
I don't feel bad tbh, what can I do? The mental game had the best quote, " I can't play perfect I can only play my best". Basically meaning even if I do the best of what I no it still prob isn't good enough
Bit of advice on the hands ive just looked at without mentioning any of the players involved it seems to me that you are paying off players who are not capable of betting strong unless they actually are strong and as such dont balance their ranges well. These types of player are the easiest to beat and all you need to do is take more notice of their tendencies in play and adjust your own game to deal with them. Just make a few notes on certain players eg: weak limper, calling machine etc etc and take note of how often they actually show aggression or just call down and you will find that the times they are actually showing aggression are the times when you should be folding asap. Good luck. Posted by _ARAZI_
Thanks for that advice, I write notes stating major hands and general tendencies. Yeah I think I will ask Liam his always offering help. Just finding it tough to make process atm, today's hands were full of desperation IMO, evn tho I didn't reli feel like that
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7 buy-ins isn't great but not that unusual.i've lost that and more and know just how you feel mate.
as benc says it's a game/hobby and you should treat it that way.
yes you have worked hard trying to improve your game which is good and you should be commended for that.
how people play against you is out of your control mate and you have to adjust your play against each player.
imo you need to tighten your play.
you are losing too many hands un-necessarily by getting involved when you should/could be folding pre-flop.
the qj & a5 suited for ex look good p/f but you didn't hit the flush both times and lost the maximum.
that is just bad play imo as you are gambling when you really don't need to especially at the levels being played.
if I were you I would make a list up of hands to play and stick to it.
mine would read something like;
ak aq aj in position
all pairs obviously with the intention of hitting a set,if I miss then it's normally a fold afterwards.
i'm never going to war with just 1 pair.maybe aa or kk being the exception.
fold all A rags even suited... ALWAYS.
kq kj even suited again looks good p/f but don't get too excited by them.
again we don't want to be losing big pots with them.win little...lose little.
once you lose a big pot or more ie; 2 buy-ins+ it's now all about damage limitation for me.
we try and grind it back slowly.
going mad and chasing drawing hands is never great.
you should even think about finishing the session and accept losing the 2 buy-ins.
also,if you are playing 4/6 tables maybe drop it to just 2.
that will help stop the bleeding.
there are lots of things that you can do Robbie,and I've mentioned just a few.
you need to make changes.don't blame anyone but yourself when you lose,i don't.
if you put money in the pot then that's your choice no-one elses.
you win some...you lose some.
you are struggling with 'the mental side of poker' obviously,and it's going to be a daily struggle for you to beat it.
you can beat it though,but it will take some time.
also,if losing 6/7 buy-ins etc makes you feel this way,you are playing at to high a level for your b/roll.
yes losing £60/£70 hurts of course it does.
but you should either accept it or drop down levels so it then doesn't hurt so bad.
why do you think i'm now playing 1c/2c?
it's not because I can't afford to play higher,of course I can. i'm enjoying the challenge of building my roll from nothing..(ok $7 then).
maybe it is something you could think of doing?
anyway Robbie, whatever you decide to do is up to you,no-one else.
best wishes mate,
(* *)
^
dev
This times about 7 billion
Unfortunatly ego often gets in the way of progression.
The strategy advice I agree with, I wouldn't play those hands from that position if I was playing normally so why do It now when im losing. Also I wouldn't of shoved for the draws either, the JQ I don't mind but the a5 one I think is awful play on all steets, I shouldn't even of been opening from utg with it. Just cant seem to do the things I know which are correct.
Thanks for the advice, im going out today for about but will be online early afternoon starting the recovery mission. What site you now playing on , is it one with 3 numbers in a row? thought I remember you saying it was that.
I reject its anything to do with ego, why would I constantly say things arnt good enough with my play, drop down to 10 nl, build a BR from scratch even though I could start one bigger with tourney winnings and always ask for advice if I have a big ego?
If that was true I would just turn up, think im better then everyone and just play.
Well, I have never lost 7bi in a 4nl session, but I never go crazy no. Sure its a bit annoying, but knowing that it is near on impossible to win every session its not a bother.
Have a lot at some of the year graphs on 2+2. Look at the swongs.
gl mate.you know all my comments are only said to try and help you.
i know you are a good player mate,and i am in no position to tell you how to play.
but i do think you have a number of leaks (which i guess we all do),and it's not always easy to see them for yourself, sometimes.
i have had loads pointed out to me and it has helped my game 1,000,000%
i think you would benefit from some advice from a higher stake player mate.i know Liamboi would be more than happy to help you,and i think if i were you i would ask him for some h/h advice by PM.
gl buddy,
dev
Bad news again, another 3 buy in losing day. Feel dejected tbh, just fed up. My BR is over iv got just under 18 buy ins for 10nl, a level full of fish and I still cant win. How did I ever manage to win all those buy ins at 10nl recently? lol
Same old story really, run awful, didn't hit anything and had the absolutely diabolical hand I include every session. Happy on the whole how I played today, after yesterday and my confident being so low, I was disciplined pre flop with my decision and got my hand selection correct. Post flop like I said there was 2 hands I think were poor but apart from that I think I done good. Had my bit of paper to write my thoughts on so it didn't build up and I didn't tilt, and it worked mentally I was fine. Yeah that's about all I got to say today. Shame things didn't happen today the tables were loose and if I hit even top pair I think I would of been playing for stacks.
This in my whole 4 years of playing is my worst ever start/ couple of days. Tbh I felt disgusting when I went to bed last night, today im disappointed but what can I do? not going to let it ruin my day really. One thing I realised is that I wasted so much time working on my game, some people just cant be good at poker, it requires a lot of different attributes and I just cant get the hang of it. Think im mostly done playing and believing there's money to be made from poker, there not, were all trying but all as bad as each other. Just my opinion but I couldn't have done anything more to improve.
br: £176
888:$480
Imo liamboi is one of the best regs at the 20/50nl levels on site and could easily beat the game at higher levels and your game will come on loads for his help.
Good Luck whatever you decide.
Daz.
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Thoughts?
Cheers dev appreciate it mate, gl.
in the cold light of the next day losing 3 buy's won't feel so bad.
post your worst 2 or 3 losing hands to Liamboii and see what he thinks.
I bet he will find something that maybe you are not seeing.
that's my best advice right now mate.
gl
dev
These types of player are the easiest to beat and all you need to do is take more notice of their tendencies in play and adjust your own game to deal with them.
Just make a few notes on certain players eg: weak limper, calling machine etc etc and take note of how often they actually show aggression or just call down and you will find that the times they are actually showing aggression are the times when you should be folding asap.
Good luck.