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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    Thanks everyone, played another at 60p so going too put some more up if that's ok?? again though was unsuccessful  I don't mean too hijack your thread tikay with plo8 hands

    again if I raised here I think I take it pre... fault 1 I suppose :(

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    soultaker Small blind  150.00 150.00 1532.50
    xxBig blind  300.00 450.00 2777.49
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • 10
    • A
    • 5
         
    Chris_Mc Call  300.00 750.00 1368.76
    Essexmel0n Fold     
    soultaker Fold     
    xxxCheck     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 10
    • 2
         
    xxx Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  750.00 1500.00 618.76
    xxx Raise  1500.00 3000.00 1277.49
    Chris_Mc All-in  618.76 3618.76 0.00
    xxxUnmatched bet  131.24 3487.52 1408.73
    xxxShow
    • 8
    • 8
    • 6
    • 3
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • 10
    • 10
    • A
    • 5
       
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    River
       
    • 5
         
    xxx Win high Straight to the 6 1743.76  3152.49
    xxxWin low 6-low 1743.76
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited October 2014
    Hi Chris,

    Not bad, but I think you need to focus a little more on what is happening to the low. So in your very first hand you've multi-paired the board, which is good, but this has destroyed your liklihood of winning the low and hence scooping the pot. Finding hands where you win the lot is your challenge, so draws to the nuts, high & low, is what you are looking for. If on the flop you lose one side, then aggression will be your only tool for scooping. Otherwise try to get to showdown cheap, or bail if not possible.
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    OK, right played another couple,

    warning; lots of hands

    taking peoples advice on board hopefully anyway, things went a little smoother, still losing my head  on the low thing sometimes but getting there and trying too think what my opo has as well as my own hand. trying too take geldy'd advice as well looking too scoop the lot as well.
     
    ill post some up and u can abuse as necessary lol. luck or just better play. im not too sure ???
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    nottm99 Small blind  100.00 100.00 2245.00
    mangomax17 Big blind  200.00 300.00 4065.00
      Your hole cards
    • 3
    • Q
    • A
    • 6
         
    Chris_Mc Raise  600.00 900.00 2415.00
    Litenez Fold     
    nottm99 Fold     
    mangomax17 Raise  1700.00 2600.00 2365.00
    Chris_Mc All-in  2415.00 5015.00 0.00
    mangomax17 Call  1115.00 6130.00 1250.00
    mangomax17 Show
    • 10
    • A
    • K
    • A
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • 3
    • Q
    • A
    • 6
       
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 2
    • K
         
    Turn
       
    • 5
         
    River
       
    • 4
         
    Chris_Mc Win high Flush to the Ace 3065.00  3065.00
    Chris_Mc Win low 5-low 3065.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Chris_Mc Small blind  25.00 25.00 2085.00
    skinsman Big blind  50.00 75.00 1290.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
    • K
    • 6
         
    Litenez Call  50.00 125.00 1525.00
    robbiemack Fold     
    nottm99 Fold     
    mangomax17 Call  50.00 175.00 2907.50
    Chris_Mc Call  25.00 200.00 2060.00
    skinsman Check     
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 4
    • 2
         
    Chris_Mc Bet  150.00 350.00 1910.00
    skinsman Raise  650.00 1000.00 640.00
    Litenez Fold     
    mangomax17 Call  650.00 1650.00 2257.50
    Chris_Mc All-in  1910.00 3560.00 0.00
    skinsman All-in  640.00 4200.00 0.00
    mangomax17 Call  1410.00 5610.00 847.50
    Chris_Mc Show
    • A
    • 5
    • K
    • 6
       
    skinsman Show
    • 4
    • A
    • 3
    • 4
       
    mangomax17 Show
    • 7
    • 10
    • 5
    • 4
       
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    Chris_Mc Win high Straight to the 6 2805.00  2805.00
    Chris_Mc Win low 5-low 2805.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    nottm99 Small blind  50.00 50.00 3045.00
    mangomax17 Big blind  100.00 150.00 1745.00
      Your hole cards
    • 2
    • 5
    • 7
    • 6
         
    Chris_Mc Call  100.00 250.00 5810.00
    Litenez Call  100.00 350.00 1050.00
    nottm99 Call  50.00 400.00 2995.00
    mangomax17 Check     
    Flop
       
    • 2
    • Q
    • 4
         
    nottm99 Check     
    mangomax17 Check     
    Chris_Mc Check     
    Litenez Check     
    Turn
       
    • 6
         
    nottm99 Check     
    mangomax17 Bet  400.00 800.00 1345.00
    Chris_Mc Call  400.00 1200.00 5410.00
    Litenez Call  400.00 1600.00 650.00
    nottm99 Fold     
    River
       
    • 6
         
    mangomax17 All-in  1345.00 2945.00 0.00
    Chris_Mc Call  1345.00 4290.00 4065.00
    Litenez Fold     
    mangomax17 Show
    • 6
    • 3
    • Q
    • A
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • 2
    • 5
    • 7
    • 6
       
    mangomax17 Win high Full House, 6s and Queens 2145.00  2145.00
    mangomax17 Win low 6-low 2145.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Litenez Small blind  100.00 100.00 2575.00
    nottm99 Big blind  200.00 300.00 2045.00
      Your hole cards
    • 2
    • 5
    • 6
    • A
         
    mangomax17 Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  200.00 500.00 5830.00
    Litenez Call  100.00 600.00 2475.00
    nottm99 Check     
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 9
    • Q
         
    Litenez Check     
    nottm99 Check     
    Chris_Mc Check     
    Turn
       
    • 3
         
    Litenez Bet  200.00 800.00 2275.00
    nottm99 Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  200.00 1000.00 5630.00
    River
       
    • 10
         
    Litenez Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  1000.00 2000.00 4630.00
    Litenez Fold     
    Chris_Mc Muck     
    Chris_Mc Win  1000.00  5630.00
    Chris_Mc Return  1000.00
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Litenez Small blind  75.00 75.00 275.00
    nottm99 Big blind  150.00 225.00 2845.00
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 6
    • 10
    • 10
         
    mangomax17 Call  150.00 375.00 4515.00
    Chris_Mc Call  150.00 525.00 3840.00
    Litenez Call  75.00 600.00 200.00
    nottm99 Check     
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 7
    • J
         
    Litenez Check     
    nottm99 Check     
    mangomax17 Check     
    Chris_Mc Check     
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    Litenez All-in  200.00 800.00 0.00
    nottm99 Fold     
    mangomax17 Call  200.00 1000.00 4315.00
    Chris_Mc Call  200.00 1200.00 3640.00
    River
       
    • A
         
    mangomax17 Bet  1200.00 2400.00 3115.00
    Chris_Mc Fold     
    mangomax17 Unmatched bet  1200.00 1200.00 4315.00
    Litenez Show
    • 6
    • A
    • 3
    • K
       
    mangomax17 Show
    • J
    • K
    • Q
    • 5
       
    mangomax17 Win high Flush to the Ace 600.00  4915.00
    Litenez Win low 6-low 600.00
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,485
    edited October 2014
    Hi Chris

    You may be better off putting these in the Clinic rather than Tikays thead.
    Not many people read this ! :-)))


    Only kidding TK
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    was thinking that, last one promise lol

    only because a lot of the plo8 regs talk on here. clinic next time... promise
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,485
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    was thinking that, last one promise lol only because a lot of the plo8 regs talk on here. clinic next time... promise
    Posted by Chris_Mc
    Lol

    Are these from MTT's?
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    no dym's
  • TalonTalon Member Posts: 1,621
    edited October 2014

     Hi Chris. Just to pass what was on my mind when i threw that beat on you. Dont mind admitting to be the removed player.

     When i saw the run out i thought about the mistakes you had made. 

     You were the shortstack on the bubble just over 5BB at a high blind level. The only action you didnt really have preflop was to limp. Raise or fold. You want to double up or steal blinds here.

     It seemed to me that your only plan for the hand was to get lucky and then for me to get lucky as well but not quite as lucky as you so as to pay you off. This is not a good way of entering a hand at all. You are too short to rely on hitting the board before making a move.

     If you pot raise that hand pre, then all would have folded and you would have increased your stack by over a quarter without any reliance of the board going well for you
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
     Hi Chris. Just to pass what was on my mind when i threw that beat on you. Dont mind admitting to be the removed player.  When i saw the run out i thought about the mistakes you had made.   You were the shortstack on the bubble just over 5BB at a high blind level. The only action you didnt really have preflop was to limp. Raise or fold. You want to double up or steal blinds here.  It seemed to me that your only plan for the hand was to get lucky and then for me to get lucky as well but not quite as lucky as you so as to pay you off. This is not a good way of entering a hand at all. You are too short to rely on hitting the board before making a move.  If you pot raise that hand pre, then all would have folded and you would have increased your stack by over a quarter without any reliance of the board going well for you
    Posted by Talon
    Thanks talon,

    reason behind this was if shoved im getting called by better, well I say better not sure how good this hand actually is pre-
     
    so thought id see one .. try and see it cheap...

    but instantly knowing at the end I should have raised and would've took it there.

    appreciate all the advice given and try and fix all these leaks...

    plumber anyone???
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,584
    edited October 2014

    I hope to resume playing shortly (this afternoon/revening) after a 4 day hiatus due to being unwell. 

    With only 3 days left in October, my October profit currently stands at around £70, so I would really like to get a wriggle on & try & record a few profitable sessions.

    See you shortly. 

    I'll get up to date with replying to questions, too over the next few days.

       
  • DonttelmumDonttelmum Member Posts: 1,921
    edited October 2014
    Nasty cough you had on the show Tikay.  Get well soon :)
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    Shall see you on the tables. U best get rid of that chatbox :) 
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    should I have called you here, with the bets before I had someone on trips or aa at least.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    Macacgirl1 Small blind  75.00 75.00 1875.00
    boddy10 Big blind  150.00 225.00 2727.50
      Your hole cards
    • 4
    • A
    • K
    • 3
         
    tikay1 Raise  525.00 750.00 1482.50
    bearace Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  525.00 1275.00 822.50
    jimb0d1 Fold     
    Macacgirl1 Call  450.00 1725.00 1425.00
    boddy10 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • 7
    • 8
         
    Macacgirl1 All-in  1425.00 3150.00 0.00
    tikay1 Call  1425.00 4575.00 57.50
    Chris_Mc Fold     
    Macacgirl1 Show
    • 4
    • A
    • 3
    • 2
       
    tikay1 Show
    • 2
    • 9
    • A
    • 7
       
    Turn
       
    • 9
         
    River
       
    • 8
         
    tikay1 Win high Two Pairs, 9s and 8s 4575.00  4632.50
     No qualifying low hand  
  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited October 2014
    No
    your Hi is not good
    and the lo is not drawing to the nuts
    you have over 5 bigs left which is more than enough. 
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited October 2014
    Chris, you did right folding.
    You weren't to know I was trying to bully TK out the door and that TK knew I was trying to do that!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,584
    edited October 2014


    Some Bluff Europe musings.


    http://bit.ly/13oT2L3

    Would appreciate you clicking that link, as I get paid 1p per click. (I earned over two bob last month).
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,584
    edited October 2014


    Meanwhile, Lady Spite gets her long overdue come-uppance. Love it. HERE 
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,485
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Some Bluff Europe musings. http://bit.ly/13oT2L3 Would appreciate you clicking that link, as I get paid 1p per click. (I earned over two bob last month).
    Posted by Tikay10
    Nice read as always Tony

    I haven't been around poker that long to understand some of things written.............But Why is exactly why i play.
    Pokers got the X-Factor !

    In my short time in poker there is only one elder statesman i know with gravitas and aplomb !!
    Take a bow Mr K !
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited October 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Meanwhile, Lady Spite gets her long overdue come-uppance. Love it. HERE  
    Posted by Tikay10

    Things like this can dent peoples confedence. ..

    You would expect more from a presenter and an ambassador of the game

    :)

    Now.... dont go posting me up there lol.


    P.s  i won a book!!!!
  • DonttelmumDonttelmum Member Posts: 1,921
    edited October 2014
    The elder statesman (or woman) of UK and Irish Poker?  Sometimes you can't see the wood for the trees.

    Great article Tikay.


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