My advice would be to drop the amount of tables from 6 to 4 and see if that leads to any significant improvement. You understand the 4 handed push/fold dynamics really well and play very solidly, however, you always seem to be the one with the short stack. By dropping down to 4 tables you can play a looser style in the early game to accumulate chips vs weaker players who don't understand the nuances of the games too well. The mistakes they make before 75/150 matter much more than those they make at 200/400 and later.
Appreciate all, the replies, thanks Gents. Am a little busy today, but will reply tomorrow.
Must say, am very flattered to see a reply from Tom_Mull, who, apart from being a very profitable player, & someone I greatly respect, (I try not to tangle with him as his ranges are so good) has not posted on this Community for almost 12 months. It's so lovely to have such decent people here on Sky Poker.
How did you come to spot the discussion, Tom, when you don't seem to use the Community?
Appreciate all, the replies, thanks Gents. Am a little busy today, but will reply tomorrow. Must say, am very flattered to see a reply from Tom_Mull, who, apart from being a very profitable player, & someone I greatly respect, (I try not to tangle with him as his ranges are so good) has not posted on this Community for almost 12 months. It's so lovely to have such decent people here on Sky Poker. How did you come to spot the discussion, Tom, when you don't seem to use the Community? Posted by Tikay10
I tend to lurk on the forums more than post and only really browse them when I'm playing on Sky regularly so I was fortunate to stumble upon it. I always enjoyed reading your diary because I found PLO8 to be such an interesting game. Good luck turning your results around in the next few weeks.
Appreciate all, the replies, thanks Gents. Am a little busy today, but will reply tomorrow. Must say, am very flattered to see a reply from Tom_Mull, who, apart from being a very profitable player, & someone I greatly respect, (I try not to tangle with him as his ranges are so good) has not posted on this Community for almost 12 months. It's so lovely to have such decent people here on Sky Poker. How did you come to spot the discussion, Tom, when you don't seem to use the Community? Posted by Tikay10
Tomorrow was a long time coming, sorry. Been so waylaid with workload, & this & that.
Anyway, I tinkered with a few things, & seemed to get back on an even keel, & last week I made a £40 profit. Not much really, but at least I seemed to be back on the right track.
So that put me EXCACTLY where I started 2016, to within a quid. 3 months & not made a penny profit is ridic, & not what I am used to, but that's the fun, the challenge, keeping ahead of the game I suppose.
On Monday this week I made a small profit over 40 games. Fair enough, swings & swongs.
On Tuesday, I made a £91 loss. (NINETY ONE CHUFFING QUID).
It's comfortably my worst one night loss.
Played 34 games, did OK in 26 of them. The other 8 were ALL @ £11, & I lost every one. 8 games @ £11, & lost the lot.
Don't even ask, lol.
It felt as if I just kept running into things, unavoidable spots, A-K-2-x with Big Blinds plays itself, but I just kept walking into Aces, or Villain would flop a set.
Or maybe I just played really bad.
And I guess that's why this game fascinates so.
I'm comforted that I now have a £2,600 roll from £200, & have not deposited since September 2013, but 3 months & not a penny profit does muddle the mind a bit.
Anyway, we'll press on & see what we can do.
It's still the highlight of the day to settle down for a session ion the evening. Love the game, love it.
Are you a quid up, or a quid down? What do you reckon your hourly rate is? glad your back to winning. Watch out for that markycash though, these scottish fellas are sneaky. Posted by 67Bhoys
Umm, see the next Post I wrote.
My hourly? I dare not even begin to imagine that. My hourly fun rate is still monsta though.
Craig mentioned "Markycash", & I was about to introduce two new players to Team PLO8, who, between them, have helped to up the liquidity considerably.
Firstly, chiggypig, aka Lady Chiggy, who is a young lady from Taunton. Good player, good fun, & pretty handy.
And then Markycash, and my of my, this guy is different gravy. I think he has won 39 from his last 50, which is extraordinary. He may be running well, I don't know, but I fancy he'll sustain a very high win rate indeed.
Seems a really friendly & affable chap, too, & I gather he'll be making an appearance on this Diary soon.
Losing those £11 games certainly puts a dent in your ROI, negating all the good work in the other games. You would figure to win at least some of the 8 games, but losing them all, ouch! Posted by 67Bhoys
It deffo messes with the head, for sure.
I think I know where I am, relative to most players, & I don't fear ANY player, but this guy Markcash guy pummelled me, bust me time after time. I made a few adjustments last night, & did much better v him, (guess I ran a little better, too) but without a doubt, he's way better than I ever was or will be, & I happily (?) accept that.
Hehe moist I think the simple answer is that players have got better. I have been playing dyms over 3 years ago and definitly they were easier 2 years ago. You can now get to level 6 and theres 6 players left. 2 years ago the game would have been over or it would be on the bubble. There is so much info out there now and this thread on plo8 dyms. On my phone sorry for any mistakes!!!!!! Posted by stuarty117
Stu is correct here.
I, as many of us do, scope players that play PLO8 dyms. The players playing the £11 and £5.50 regularly, are all winning players. However, if 6 winning players sit down regularly, then inevitably, some of those records will be in danger of turning south. Given equal abilities and equal run of variance, over time, rake is the only winner.
It stands to reason then, that at every level, you need some recs, who will provide the means for the winning players to continue on their upward path on Sharky.
You will always get the occasional recs, such as myself joining in these games, but even then, these guys may be no mugs either.
We may be a victim of ourselves by posting so many hints and tips on the forum, but we want new blood to join the PLO8 ranks, so we try to promote the game as best we can.
Problem is the new blood like Marky, Mrs Duck, and Chiggy, appear to be a bit handy at the game. So maybe it is we, the regs, that have to adjust our game to account for the new breed.
On a final note, Tikay was 54% win rate on the 1,000 game challenge. I don't know his actual win rate % for each level, but this illustrates how tough the higher stakes DYM field has become. 1,000 games is a good sample size to take stock, and think about the reasons for these results, some of which I think I have already covered.
Nice to have such a big thread covering OH8 and look forward to some good discussion over hand strategy.
I have been around online and poker and OH8 since 2006/07 but usually go by the name Marky_Crash or MarkyCrash.
I would have played here much sooner but didn't realise there was such a good OH8 community here.
I am sure my ROI will drop a little, have definately run favourably over my initial games here and my ROI will take a big hit from Monday as I am going to give the VLV leaderboard a go and will be playing so many games (NLHE turbos and possibly russian roulette games included) that it will be impossible to maintain any kind of decent ROI over that period.
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Appreciate all, the replies, thanks Gents. Am a little busy today, but will reply tomorrow.
Must say, am very flattered to see a reply from Tom_Mull, who, apart from being a very profitable player, & someone I greatly respect, (I try not to tangle with him as his ranges are so good) has not posted on this Community for almost 12 months. It's so lovely to have such decent people here on Sky Poker.
How did you come to spot the discussion, Tom, when you don't seem to use the Community?
Anyway, I tinkered with a few things, & seemed to get back on an even keel, & last week I made a £40 profit. Not much really, but at least I seemed to be back on the right track.
So that put me EXCACTLY where I started 2016, to within a quid. 3 months & not made a penny profit is ridic, & not what I am used to, but that's the fun, the challenge, keeping ahead of the game I suppose.
So all is well then, right?
Wrong.
On Monday this week I made a small profit over 40 games. Fair enough, swings & swongs.
On Tuesday, I made a £91 loss. (NINETY ONE CHUFFING QUID).
It's comfortably my worst one night loss.
Played 34 games, did OK in 26 of them. The other 8 were ALL @ £11, & I lost every one. 8 games @ £11, & lost the lot.
Don't even ask, lol.
It felt as if I just kept running into things, unavoidable spots, A-K-2-x with Big Blinds plays itself, but I just kept walking into Aces, or Villain would flop a set.
Or maybe I just played really bad.
And I guess that's why this game fascinates so.
I'm comforted that I now have a £2,600 roll from £200, & have not deposited since September 2013, but 3 months & not a penny profit does muddle the mind a bit.
Anyway, we'll press on & see what we can do.
It's still the highlight of the day to settle down for a session ion the evening. Love the game, love it.
My hourly? I dare not even begin to imagine that. My hourly fun rate is still monsta though.
Craig mentioned "Markycash", & I was about to introduce two new players to Team PLO8, who, between them, have helped to up the liquidity considerably.
Firstly, chiggypig, aka Lady Chiggy, who is a young lady from Taunton. Good player, good fun, & pretty handy.
And then Markycash, and my of my, this guy is different gravy. I think he has won 39 from his last 50, which is extraordinary. He may be running well, I don't know, but I fancy he'll sustain a very high win rate indeed.
Seems a really friendly & affable chap, too, & I gather he'll be making an appearance on this Diary soon.
Good luck to them both.
I think I know where I am, relative to most players, & I don't fear ANY player, but this guy Markcash guy pummelled me, bust me time after time. I made a few adjustments last night, & did much better v him, (guess I ran a little better, too) but without a doubt, he's way better than I ever was or will be, & I happily (?) accept that.
Note to Markycash
I have sent you a PM.
Whoops......
@Tikay Replied to your PM.
Nice to have such a big thread covering OH8 and look forward to some good discussion over hand strategy.
I have been around online and poker and OH8 since 2006/07 but usually go by the name Marky_Crash or MarkyCrash.
I would have played here much sooner but didn't realise there was such a good OH8 community here.
I am sure my ROI will drop a little, have definately run favourably over my initial games here and my ROI will take a big hit from Monday as I am going to give the VLV leaderboard a go and will be playing so many games (NLHE turbos and possibly russian roulette games included) that it will be impossible to maintain any kind of decent ROI over that period.
Look forward to playing you all!
GL @ the tables
Marky