When an all-in arises, whether it involves me or not, I like to try & guess what the 2 players are going to turn up with. With most players, you can reasonably assess their range. If a guy is first to bet, gets re-raised & is pot stuck, so has to call, he can literally have anything. You have to make these attempted steals with semi-air. That's correct play. The ones that always fascinate me is when someone 3 bets - comes over the top of an open. Now his range is really very narrow, you'd think. And yet chaps playing a full stack & with not a chip invested often come over the top with complete poo, A-8-7-4 for example. I know the ranges run close, but that HAS to be behind both ends, surely? We could legitimately open with A-8-7-4, really it's an attempted steal or semi-bluff. That's fine. But 3 betting with that sort of stuff always causes an arched eyebrow or two. It's as if we look down at A-8-7-4 & decide to make a move, but can't change or mind when someone bets first. Might be because we are multi-tabling I suppose. The different ways we play endlessly fascinates. Posted by Tikay10
Certainly has been interesting the last couple of days.
Few new players too..........so im busy trying to write notes and play at the same time.
Hope they come back as my note taking will have been wasted.
....well I guess when you are writing notes on me - it has to be "the jammiest b****** going - watch out" - lol .... you stripped me down to 105 chips thought I was well gone!
....well I guess when you are writing notes on me - it has to be "the jammiest b****** going - watch out" - lol .... you stripped me down to 105 chips thought I was well gone! Posted by imber
And you recovered, I assume? Well done. Don't we just love it when we come back from the dead?
Saw so many examples of that last night, including remarkable comebacks by Andrew (winshoes) & Old Father Time (Eon).
I was a bit busy with 6 tables all evening, but I got the impression you had a good night last night. Well done bud, keep it going. You are a tough opponent, more XYZ than ABC, nobody ever knows what you might turn up with.
Small - very small - profit last night, shaded the game count 20-17, & in winning the only £11er than ran, (after getting very lucky twice) just about got over the line intact.
Monday - £6 profit
Tuesday - £50 loss
Wednesday - £7 loss
Thursday - £29 loss
Friday - £49 profit
Saturday - £3 profit
I got £13 from the Premiership thing on Thursday, too, & will make just over 1,000 Reward points this week, for another £12.50 or so, so if I can avoid losing tonight, might just about get out of it after a swingy week.
Don't forget, Happy Days is on Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday this week, fill yer boots. I can't play Tuesday, I'm working, but will be topping up on Wednesday & Thursday.
The evening was overshadowed by a nasty incident in one game.
4 players left, 3 of us are regulars, one guy just plays now & then. Now & Then bloke has 10,000 chips, we three regulars have 2,000 between us @ 150-300. Real tactical stuff this, trying to outlast 1 of the other 2 shorties, finding spots, folding when he have no fold equity, that sort of thing. Fun, actually, or should be.
Now & Then types something nasty in the chat box about a shortie. (Not me).
"I don't like him & he knows why" he types mysteriously.
Soon, it becomes apparent he is playing hardball against the guy he dislikes, & softball against the other shortie & me. It's pretty clear what is going off, but that's his business, & I say nothing. He's entitled to do that if he so wishes.
Then it happens. I have 1 Big behind, & am in the BB, so 2 Bigs in total. Now & Then is to my immediate left, & limps UTG. Before it gets round to me, he types "raise it tikay, I'll fold" or words to that effect.
As it happens, I have a decent hand, especially when I only have 1 Big behind.
But after he types that, I can't possibly raise, can I? It would look like I'm agreeing to his filthy suggestion to collude.
My hand includes JJ, & the flop contains a Jack, so now I HAVE to bet, & can do so legitimately. My man folds, & I show the set of jacks, so everyone can see there was no hanky-panky going off.
Now I type, "hey mate, I can't be doing that kind of stuff, sorry".
To which he replies "I can do what I want with my chips".
Well my friend, that's only true up to a point, & it does not include openly stating he will limp fold to a 1 Big shove. But before I can reply in that vein, the game ends.
Not nice, not nice at all. Don't recall seeing it done so openly before in the PLO8 DYM's.
Really don't want to see this kid on my table in future games.
I had the same sort of situation arise with the only difference being that we had one away player on the bubble. The chip leaader annonuced that I was going to lose and proceeded to do everything possible to make sure I did.
I took a screen shot which I will pm you.
Is this allowed? I assume it's fine aslong as they don't announce it?
I really don't get the whole making enemies on the virtual felt stuff, some of the vitriol posted in the chat box astounds me. The type that do this must be very unhappy with their lot in life, it seems fairly standard to me at least that if the losing means that much to you - don't play.
As I have said before in my early days of my little story, let the small things go, the big ones will come along and bite you in the nether regions
Hope you are well and having a fab weekend, good luck and have fun.
Last day in Marbella today after a week away with the wife, kids and inlaws. Lovely time had by all and cracking weather but boy am I ready to get back to Poker!
.... thought I would try a BH for a change - do you think I have got a chance? - lol **** ended up with 31 quid for my 2 so well happy - ended up 3rd (no staying power - lol)
.... thought I would try a BH for a change - do you think I have got a chance? - lol **** ended up with 31 quid for my 2 so well happy - ended up 3rd (no staying power - lol) imber 122218.50 £19.26 Head Prizes 16 £7.41 welldodgy 25082 £3.11 Head Prizes 3 £2.03 cocodey89 13227.50 0 £1.00 anniep 12050 £1.27 Head Prizes 1 £1.42 stuart477 9937 £0.75 Head Prizes 1 £1.25 john1215 7020 £0.75 Head Prizes 1 £1.25 smackins 4465 £1.50 Head Prizes 2 £1.50 Posted by imber
There were loads of them, all with those silly names poker sites & rooms seem to love so much.
J10 had Midlands Medley, Midlands Meltdown, Midlands Masters etc.
Newcastle had May Madness, Southend had March Mini, Luton had the Christmas Cracker.
Most festivals were a week or so, & our poker life revolved around them, there would be one or 2 per month.
Later, they died out, or were strangled by sponsored events by Online rooms, & of course the EPT sucked all the cash out of the system so that was that.
Very happy memories of all those festivals. Mainly Thewy & I would travel & room together, we did all the big stuff in Mainland Europe, too.
I just had a look at my THM, at the various Walsall events I cashed in. A rich vein of characters & stories there.
Hi Tikay, I had the same sort of situation arise with the only difference being that we had one away player on the bubble. The chip leaader annonuced that I was going to lose and proceeded to do everything possible to make sure I did. I took a screen shot which I will pm you. Is this allowed? I assume it's fine aslong as they don't announce it? Cheers, James Posted by Donttelmum
Hi James,
A player is allowed to "target" a specific individual, yes, of course, but he most certainly CANNOT type "I'll limp, you raise & I'll fold so we can help bust x". That is outright, 100% collusion & is specifically not permitted.
I got your PM, & replied.
In DYM's, let us not kid ourselves, we do, & SHOULD target shorties collectively, & play optimally when there is an AWAY player blinding out. But we must never type that stuff in the chatbox - when we do, that becomes collusion.
It is a bit frustrating when there is a super-shortie 2 spots to our left & we bet into them, then the fella between us re-pots it. I mean, that just makes NO sense at all to me. Why would anyone EVER do that in a DYM?
We saw a guy with 8,000 chips 4 handed last night, re-raising everyone, every hand. I can only assume he had a very small willy.
There was a shortie in one last night & the Big Stack kept limping into the shortie's blind, so the shortie was getting a Freeroll every time. How daft is that?
It's not all about knowing good hand ranges, it's being table-wise too.
How is the game treating you - you getting the lot, as per?
I saw Walsall mentioned earlier Didn't there used to be a festival there? I can't remember the name of it now. It's funny the places that used to hold biggish events I'm sure you may have some stories from there? Posted by Jac35
Way too many.....
Wish I had more time, I'd bore everyone to death with some of the tales from Walsall & the like.
We came back from the break in one big Walsall event, just 2 tables left in a biggie, & of the 7 players on my table, three never returned from the break, which was a bit odd.
Later it emerged - dare I say news filtered through? - that there had been a police raid during the break & they'd all been arrested for some cigarette smuggling coup.
I'll also reply on Ice Tigers thread about a bizarre happening at Walsall during an APAT thing. It all ended rather badly for one clot of the highest order.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Hi James, A player is allowed to "target" a specific individual, yes, of course, but he most certainly CANNOT type "I'll limp, you raise & I'll fold so we can help bust x". That is outright, 100% collusion & is specifically not permitted. I got your PM, & replied. In DYM's, let us not kid ourselves, we do, & SHOULD target shorties collectively, & play optimally when there is an AWAY player blinding out. But we must never type that stuff in the chatbox - when we do, that becomes collusion. It is a bit frustrating when there is a super-shortie 2 spots to our left & we bet into them, then the fella between us re-pots it. I mean, that just makes NO sense at all to me. Why would anyone EVER do that in a DYM? We saw a guy with 8,000 chips 4 handed last night, re-raising everyone, every hand. I can only assume he had a very small willy. There was a shortie in one last night & the Big Stack kept limping into the shortie's blind, so the shortie was getting a Freeroll every time. How daft is that? It's not all about knowing good hand ranges, it's being table-wise too. How is the game treating you - you getting the lot, as per? Posted by Tikay10
Celebration time (of sorts) as a few days ago - Friday to be exact - my little challenge reached it's 3rd Birthday.
On September 2nd 2013, I deposited £200, & I've neither deposited or withdrawn since. The current balance is £3,019.41.
That sounds a lot of money - well it IS a lot of money - but I'm not sure I have much to crow about considering it has taken 3 whole years to get there. I'd also estimate - pure guesswork - that at least a third, maybe a half of it came from Rewards money, Promos bonuses & the like.
For context, again just guessing, but I reckon I have spent some 600 evenings playing, so that would mean a measly £5 per evening. Looked at another way, I've played around 2,000 hours to earn just shy of £3,000, which is £1.50 per hour. Not exactly crushing, eh?
In other trivia, if I have played some 17,000 DYM's in those 3 years. If they averaged £5.50, (probably slightly less) that means I have invested some £93,000 to earn that £3,000. Not a great return, is it? Rake? About £8,500 paid. Yikes. Just imagine, £93,000, it beggars belief, doesn't it?
The other side of those coins though is that I've had immense fun, & made a bunch of friends (& a few enemies) & it has cost me nothing. A really intense hobby that costs nothing. Really? How good is that?
It's a little embarrassing that a man of my age wastes several hours every night clicking buttons & playing smallball poker. Then again, it keeps my mind active, keeps me out of mischief, & I absolutely relish the challenge. It's something I enjoy. A lot. And, if we can't do what we enjoy in the autumn, early winter even of our lives, it's a bad do I reckon.
Not sure how long I will continue. I'm beginning to fret about my mental dexterity & concentration levels. Like our bodily parts, they shrink with age you know.
Anyway, a big thank you to everyone who has helped along the way & made the journey such fun.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Hi James, A player is allowed to "target" a specific individual, yes, of course, but he most certainly CANNOT type "I'll limp, you raise & I'll fold so we can help bust x". That is outright, 100% collusion & is specifically not permitted. I got your PM, & replied. In DYM's, let us not kid ourselves, we do, & SHOULD target shorties collectively, & play optimally when there is an AWAY player blinding out. But we must never type that stuff in the chatbox - when we do, that becomes collusion. It is a bit frustrating when there is a super-shortie 2 spots to our left & we bet into them, then the fella between us re-pots it. I mean, that just makes NO sense at all to me. Why would anyone EVER do that in a DYM? We saw a guy with 8,000 chips 4 handed last night, re-raising everyone, every hand. I can only assume he had a very small willy. There was a shortie in one last night & the Big Stack kept limping into the shortie's blind, so the shortie was getting a Freeroll every time. How daft is that? It's not all about knowing good hand ranges, it's being table-wise too. How is the game treating you - you getting the lot, as per? Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:now that is what i call stamina - and you got paid for enjoying yourself - or as you say "keeping the old grey matter in tune" - we definitely need that in our golden years
Celebration time (of sorts) as a few days ago - Friday to be exact - my little challenge reached it's 3rd Birthday. On September 2nd 2013, I deposited £200, & I've neither deposited or withdrawn since. The current balance is £3,019.41. That sounds a lot of money - well it IS a lot of money - but I'm not sure I have much to crow about considering it has taken 3 whole years to get there. I'd also estimate - pure guesswork - that at least a third, maybe a half of it came from Rewards money, Promos bonuses & the like. For context, again just guessing, but I reckon I have spent some 600 evenings playing, so that would mean a measly £5 per evening. Looked at another way, I've played around 2,000 hours to earn just shy of £3,000, which is £1.50 per hour. Not exactly crushing, eh? In other trivia, if I have played some 17,000 DYM's in those 3 years. If they averaged £5.50, (probably slightly less) that means I have invested some £93,000 to earn that £3,000. Not a great return, is it? Rake? About £8,500 paid. Yikes. Just imagine, £93,000, it beggars belief, doesn't it? The other side of those coins though is that I've had immense fun, & made a bunch of friends (& a few enemies) & it has cost me nothing. A really intense hobby that costs nothing. Really? How good is that? It's a little embarrassing that a man of my age wastes several hours every night clicking buttons & playing smallball poker. Then again, it keeps my mind active, keeps me out of mischief, & I absolutely relish the challenge. It's something I enjoy. A lot. And, if we can't do what we enjoy in the autumn, early winter even of our lives, it's a bad do I reckon. Not sure how long I will continue. I'm beginning to fret about my mental dexterity & concentration levels. Like our bodily parts, they shrink with age you know. Anyway, a big thank you to everyone who has helped along the way & made the journey such fun. Posted by Tikay10
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Saw so many examples of that last night, including remarkable comebacks by Andrew (winshoes) & Old Father Time (Eon).
I was a bit busy with 6 tables all evening, but I got the impression you had a good night last night. Well done bud, keep it going. You are a tough opponent, more XYZ than ABC, nobody ever knows what you might turn up with.
Good luck tonight.
Small - very small - profit last night, shaded the game count 20-17, & in winning the only £11er than ran, (after getting very lucky twice) just about got over the line intact.
Monday - £6 profit
Tuesday - £50 loss
Wednesday - £7 loss
Thursday - £29 loss
Friday - £49 profit
Saturday - £3 profit
I got £13 from the Premiership thing on Thursday, too, & will make just over 1,000 Reward points this week, for another £12.50 or so, so if I can avoid losing tonight, might just about get out of it after a swingy week.
Don't forget, Happy Days is on Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday this week, fill yer boots. I can't play Tuesday, I'm working, but will be topping up on Wednesday & Thursday.
The evening was overshadowed by a nasty incident in one game.
4 players left, 3 of us are regulars, one guy just plays now & then. Now & Then bloke has 10,000 chips, we three regulars have 2,000 between us @ 150-300. Real tactical stuff this, trying to outlast 1 of the other 2 shorties, finding spots, folding when he have no fold equity, that sort of thing. Fun, actually, or should be.
Now & Then types something nasty in the chat box about a shortie. (Not me).
"I don't like him & he knows why" he types mysteriously.
Soon, it becomes apparent he is playing hardball against the guy he dislikes, & softball against the other shortie & me. It's pretty clear what is going off, but that's his business, & I say nothing. He's entitled to do that if he so wishes.
Then it happens. I have 1 Big behind, & am in the BB, so 2 Bigs in total. Now & Then is to my immediate left, & limps UTG. Before it gets round to me, he types "raise it tikay, I'll fold" or words to that effect.
As it happens, I have a decent hand, especially when I only have 1 Big behind.
But after he types that, I can't possibly raise, can I? It would look like I'm agreeing to his filthy suggestion to collude.
My hand includes JJ, & the flop contains a Jack, so now I HAVE to bet, & can do so legitimately. My man folds, & I show the set of jacks, so everyone can see there was no hanky-panky going off.
Now I type, "hey mate, I can't be doing that kind of stuff, sorry".
To which he replies "I can do what I want with my chips".
Well my friend, that's only true up to a point, & it does not include openly stating he will limp fold to a 1 Big shove. But before I can reply in that vein, the game ends.
Not nice, not nice at all. Don't recall seeing it done so openly before in the PLO8 DYM's.
Really don't want to see this kid on my table in future games.
imber
J10 had Midlands Medley, Midlands Meltdown, Midlands Masters etc.
Newcastle had May Madness, Southend had March Mini, Luton had the Christmas Cracker.
Most festivals were a week or so, & our poker life revolved around them, there would be one or 2 per month.
Later, they died out, or were strangled by sponsored events by Online rooms, & of course the EPT sucked all the cash out of the system so that was that.
Very happy memories of all those festivals. Mainly Thewy & I would travel & room together, we did all the big stuff in Mainland Europe, too.
I just had a look at my THM, at the various Walsall events I cashed in. A rich vein of characters & stories there.
A player is allowed to "target" a specific individual, yes, of course, but he most certainly CANNOT type "I'll limp, you raise & I'll fold so we can help bust x". That is outright, 100% collusion & is specifically not permitted.
I got your PM, & replied.
In DYM's, let us not kid ourselves, we do, & SHOULD target shorties collectively, & play optimally when there is an AWAY player blinding out. But we must never type that stuff in the chatbox - when we do, that becomes collusion.
It is a bit frustrating when there is a super-shortie 2 spots to our left & we bet into them, then the fella between us re-pots it. I mean, that just makes NO sense at all to me. Why would anyone EVER do that in a DYM?
We saw a guy with 8,000 chips 4 handed last night, re-raising everyone, every hand. I can only assume he had a very small willy.
There was a shortie in one last night & the Big Stack kept limping into the shortie's blind, so the shortie was getting a Freeroll every time. How daft is that?
It's not all about knowing good hand ranges, it's being table-wise too.
How is the game treating you - you getting the lot, as per?
Wish I had more time, I'd bore everyone to death with some of the tales from Walsall & the like.
We came back from the break in one big Walsall event, just 2 tables left in a biggie, & of the 7 players on my table, three never returned from the break, which was a bit odd.
Later it emerged - dare I say news filtered through? - that there had been a police raid during the break & they'd all been arrested for some cigarette smuggling coup.
I'll also reply on Ice Tigers thread about a bizarre happening at Walsall during an APAT thing. It all ended rather badly for one clot of the highest order.
Celebration time (of sorts) as a few days ago - Friday to be exact - my little challenge reached it's 3rd Birthday.
On September 2nd 2013, I deposited £200, & I've neither deposited or withdrawn since. The current balance is £3,019.41.
That sounds a lot of money - well it IS a lot of money - but I'm not sure I have much to crow about considering it has taken 3 whole years to get there. I'd also estimate - pure guesswork - that at least a third, maybe a half of it came from Rewards money, Promos bonuses & the like.
For context, again just guessing, but I reckon I have spent some 600 evenings playing, so that would mean a measly £5 per evening. Looked at another way, I've played around 2,000 hours to earn just shy of £3,000, which is £1.50 per hour. Not exactly crushing, eh?
In other trivia, if I have played some 17,000 DYM's in those 3 years. If they averaged £5.50, (probably slightly less) that means I have invested some £93,000 to earn that £3,000. Not a great return, is it? Rake? About £8,500 paid. Yikes. Just imagine, £93,000, it beggars belief, doesn't it?
The other side of those coins though is that I've had immense fun, & made a bunch of friends (& a few enemies) & it has cost me nothing. A really intense hobby that costs nothing. Really? How good is that?
It's a little embarrassing that a man of my age wastes several hours every night clicking buttons & playing smallball poker. Then again, it keeps my mind active, keeps me out of mischief, & I absolutely relish the challenge. It's something I enjoy. A lot. And, if we can't do what we enjoy in the autumn, early winter even of our lives, it's a bad do I reckon.
Not sure how long I will continue. I'm beginning to fret about my mental dexterity & concentration levels. Like our bodily parts, they shrink with age you know.
Anyway, a big thank you to everyone who has helped along the way & made the journey such fun.
I must say, he was very cheerful last night. By his standards.