I`ve always liked the look of this ,is there any books or info on line that will just give the basics, something a complete novice with no idea can understand without getting blinded by sceince
I`ve always liked the look of this ,is there any books or info on line that will just give the basics, something a complete novice with no idea can understand without getting blinded by sceince Posted by alimay
I've played three of the 60p so far, the first one played really loose and free and was over in two shakes of a lamb's tail, the other two played very tight (noticeable that a couple of players I've got notes on from 2.25 games were on one).
Volume is good tonight, the real test will be whether this holds up over the middle to long term.
ok i broke my PLO8 cherry. very enjoyable, esp as i cashed despite having little idea what was going on. [an away player helped lol]
if i post a few hands it might help other newbies.
note i was limping as i want to take flops to get a feel for the game. whether that is a no no i didn't care, i just wanted to get a feel for how the game played post flop. first off a v basic question: do we have to use a different set of 2 cards for the high and low element of the pot?
now onto the hands:
here i raise. hand has no lo potential but has a good shot at the high? betting the open ender is ok, even though it's obvious im on a draw here?
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
_kagawa_
Small blind
10.00
10.00
2030.00
louisboy
Big blind
20.00
30.00
1980.00
Your hole cards
K
9
Q
10
Veronab
Call
20.00
50.00
1980.00
andysef
Fold
TeddyBloat
Raise
60.00
110.00
1970.00
sonjack
Call
60.00
170.00
1880.00
_kagawa_
Fold
louisboy
Fold
Veronab
Raise
80.00
250.00
1900.00
TeddyBloat
Call
40.00
290.00
1930.00
sonjack
Call
40.00
330.00
1840.00
Flop
2
7
8
Veronab
Check
TeddyBloat
Bet
165.00
495.00
1765.00
sonjack
Fold
Veronab
Fold
TeddyBloat
Muck
TeddyBloat
Win
330.00
2095.00
TeddyBloat
Return
165.00
0.00
2260.00
here i have a nutted flush draw and do i also have a decent shot at the low. in fact is there eve a low on the board here? im only worried about the board pairing. am i overvaluing my hand here?
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
TeddyBloat
Small blind
50.00
50.00
2005.00
sonjack
Big blind
100.00
150.00
1762.50
Your hole cards
9
A
3
4
_kagawa_
Fold
louisboy
Fold
Veronab
Fold
andysef
Fold
TeddyBloat
Raise
150.00
300.00
1855.00
sonjack
Call
100.00
400.00
1662.50
Flop
2
10
9
TeddyBloat
Bet
200.00
600.00
1655.00
sonjack
Call
200.00
800.00
1462.50
Turn
5
TeddyBloat
Check
sonjack
Bet
400.00
1200.00
1062.50
TeddyBloat
Call
400.00
1600.00
1255.00
River
5
TeddyBloat
All-in
1255.00
2855.00
0.00
sonjack
Fold
TeddyBloat
Muck
TeddyBloat
Win
1600.00
1600.00
TeddyBloat
Return
1255.00
0.00
2855.00
here i have NO idea what is going on! i flop the A high flush and i have a decent shot at scooping the lot, but the boartd pairs and theres two players going at it. i have to fold in omaha here, yah? but does the fact i have the nut low mean i should continue? is it worth chasing a split pot, if it were a heads up pot would it change ought?
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
TeddyBloat
Small blind
15.00
15.00
2235.00
sonjack
Big blind
30.00
45.00
1760.00
Your hole cards
6
A
2
A
_kagawa_
Call
30.00
75.00
2075.00
louisboy
Fold
Veronab
Fold
andysef
Fold
TeddyBloat
Call
15.00
90.00
2220.00
sonjack
Check
Flop
8
5
7
TeddyBloat
Bet
45.00
135.00
2175.00
sonjack
Call
45.00
180.00
1715.00
_kagawa_
Call
45.00
225.00
2030.00
Turn
8
TeddyBloat
Check
sonjack
Bet
30.00
255.00
1685.00
_kagawa_
Raise
243.75
498.75
1786.25
TeddyBloat
Fold
sonjack
Raise
427.50
926.25
1257.50
_kagawa_
Call
213.75
1140.00
1572.50
River
5
sonjack
Bet
1140.00
2280.00
117.50
_kagawa_
Call
1140.00
3420.00
432.50
sonjack
Show
8
7
J
5
_kagawa_
Show
K
9
A
2
sonjack
Win high
Full House, 8s and 7s
1710.00
1827.50
_kagawa_
Win low
8-low
1710.00
2142.50
as you can see i had no idea what was happening. would encourage others to have a go, the people playing were very friendly and chatty too
Hand 1 - I think you basically got lucky that no-one had anything worthwhile as a Low that they could chase post-flop and it was a rainbow board. Your bet did the job.
Hand 2 - There is no Low as there isn't three different A-8 cards on the board. The board looks pretty dry until that pair up on the river, but that also gives you a made hand. I think I'd probably go with your line here, but be kicking myself if somebody has hit the house on the river.
Hand 3 - The double paired board does mean there are loads of potential full houses out there. so I would assume that by the river, the Ace flush is probably no good. However, you have the Low nuts, and with three people playing, even if you get "quartered" you're still not too far off breaking even. If it was heads up I think it would be a fold considering how few chips you've already put in to the pot, but three way I can see the benefits of calling.
Any PLO8, PLO or DYM questions, fire away, plenty of folks here on hand to help.
I kept an eye on the Lobby last night, & a good few games were running all evening at £0.60 & £1.15.
You will struggle to make your fortune playing these, but you'll also struggle to lose much money in them, by the very nature of how they play. They are the ideal vehicle to help anyone learn, understand & appreciate the nuances of PLO8, which really is The Beautiful Game, imo.
The replies FCHD gave are much the same as I'd reply.
The one with the flopped nut flush would have anyone scratching their head, believe me. So many possible scenarios here.
Without the pair up, we want to do the OPPOSITE of traditional poker wisdom, in that we MUST NOT LOSE OUR CUSTOMERS, as we are three-quartering all of them. String them all along with small bets, then bet the lot on the river, none of them holding A-2 will fold. We have THE best situation ever here, this is THE perfect scoopio situation, we have the hand we wait for all day. And yet, the moment the Board pairs, EVERYTHING changes, now we could be in a world of pain. In that spot, we can't really get off the hand, but I just check/call down.
This is great stuff, thanks lads. Any PLO8, PLO or DYM questions, fire away, plenty of folks here on hand to help. I kept an eye on the Lobby last night, & a good few games were running all evening at £0.60 & £1.15. You will struggle to make your fortune playing these, but you'll also struggle to lose much money in them, by the very nature of how they play. They are the ideal vehicle to help anyone learn, understand & appreciate the nuances of PLO8, which really is The Beautiful Game , imo. Posted by Tikay10
there was a few of them playing. but on the downside not as many 2.25 games filling as quick as they ussually do .think the novelty will wear off in a month or 2 and it will just be back too the same regs playing day in day out
As I will be trying Holdem DYMs what advice to any who is clueless in PLO8? Also how is liquidity in PLO8 in the various levels? How often do they run? Posted by DimTzar
usually the games at 2,25 and 5.50 fill quite quick at night.during the day it is a wee bit slower but the 2.25 games will still fill up just register and others will join
I think I did fold AAxx as i was a big chipleader and there was an away player, I also binned a middling connecyibg hand think it was 679T which I figured might be great in regular Omaha but not much to write home about when the blinds are high in a hi-lo dym
Dont know how you play this live tikay, id have been lost without the hand info under the flop.
Comments
If you have any questions about how to play DYM's, or the PLO8 variant, fire away, loads of folks will be on hand to help.
Good luck FCHD.
Great way to learn PLO8, or even brush up on it, at reasonable cost.
VERY low-variance, too, so plenty of poker per £.
Volume is good tonight, the real test will be whether this holds up over the middle to long term.
if i post a few hands it might help other newbies.
note i was limping as i want to take flops to get a feel for the game. whether that is a no no i didn't care, i just wanted to get a feel for how the game played post flop. first off a v basic question: do we have to use a different set of 2 cards for the high and low element of the pot?
now onto the hands:
here i raise. hand has no lo potential but has a good shot at the high? betting the open ender is ok, even though it's obvious im on a draw here?
Hand 2 - There is no Low as there isn't three different A-8 cards on the board. The board looks pretty dry until that pair up on the river, but that also gives you a made hand. I think I'd probably go with your line here, but be kicking myself if somebody has hit the house on the river.
Hand 3 - The double paired board does mean there are loads of potential full houses out there. so I would assume that by the river, the Ace flush is probably no good. However, you have the Low nuts, and with three people playing, even if you get "quartered" you're still not too far off breaking even. If it was heads up I think it would be a fold considering how few chips you've already put in to the pot, but three way I can see the benefits of calling.
This is great stuff, thanks lads.
Any PLO8, PLO or DYM questions, fire away, plenty of folks here on hand to help.
I kept an eye on the Lobby last night, & a good few games were running all evening at £0.60 & £1.15.
You will struggle to make your fortune playing these, but you'll also struggle to lose much money in them, by the very nature of how they play. They are the ideal vehicle to help anyone learn, understand & appreciate the nuances of PLO8, which really is The Beautiful Game, imo.
Teddy;
The replies FCHD gave are much the same as I'd reply.
The one with the flopped nut flush would have anyone scratching their head, believe me. So many possible scenarios here.
Without the pair up, we want to do the OPPOSITE of traditional poker wisdom, in that we MUST NOT LOSE OUR CUSTOMERS, as we are three-quartering all of them. String them all along with small bets, then bet the lot on the river, none of them holding A-2 will fold. We have THE best situation ever here, this is THE perfect scoopio situation, we have the hand we wait for all day. And yet, the moment the Board pairs, EVERYTHING changes, now we could be in a world of pain. In that spot, we can't really get off the hand, but I just check/call down.
And there you have some of the beauty of PLO8.
Did any of you guys find a situation in those new PLO8 DYM's where you folded A-A-x-x pre-flop?
If you play 10 PLO8 DYM's in a night, that situation WILL arise once or twice.
Can you fold them?.......
there was a few of them playing. but on the downside not as many 2.25 games filling as quick as they ussually do .think the novelty will wear off in a month or 2 and it will just be back too the same regs playing day in day out