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  • WOZZAAAWOZZAAA Member Posts: 10
    edited May 2015
    Not sure if my maths is retarded, so please correct me if I'm wrong. If you are on platinum level you get 6 points per pound of rake at 2p per point so effectively making the rakeback 12%. If you then play a lot more and get close to becoming a priority bronze member you are encouraged by sky to stop playing for that week unless you are going to double the hands played as they will take 2% of the rakeback you earned off you if you don't make priority silver since priority bronze is only 10%.

    Now for a rant on something I am sure of. Needing to get 200k+ hands per month vs 10k to get the 20% rakeback is asking players to increase play by 2000% to get the same rewards.

    I have been thinking about moving my majority of play over here since my regular site had cut benefits by around 10% but you seem to have effectively slashed everything for high volume players in half and made it 4 times as hard to reach targets since the same ammount of points per month are now needed per week to reach those halved benefits. I would have quite comfortably been hitting priority at 20% but would now be only making 12% if I did move. If you want UK reg cash players to come here you really need to rethink this. Please do not respond by saying you are giving the players 5k a week in tourneys to make up for it as you are giving the whole site as a whole 5k, so about 1 pound per player per week, in tourneys at a set time, which means 0 to cash players. 

    If you think I am talking rubbish about how much I play with because I don't play too much here and have not moved my roll here, besides my poker I occasionally like to gamble and looking at my history I have placed over 2k in bets on various slots on skyvegas in the last week which you can check.
  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker Member Posts: 2,715
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    Not sure if my maths is retarded, so please correct me if I'm wrong. If you are on platinum level you get 6 points per pound of rake at 2p per point so effectively making the rakeback 12%. If you then play a lot more and get close to becoming a priority bronze member you are encouraged by sky to stop playing for that week unless you are going to double the hands played as they will take 2% of the rakeback you earned off you if you don't make priority silver since priority bronze is only 10%. Now for a rant on something I am sure of. Needing to get 200k+ hands per month vs 10k to get the 20% rakeback is asking players to increase play by 2000% to get the same rewards. I have been thinking about moving my majority of play over here since my regular site had cut benefits by around 10% but you seem to have effectively slashed everything for high volume players in half and made it 4 times as hard to reach targets since the same ammount of points per month are now needed per week to reach those halved benefits. I would have quite comfortably been hitting priority at 20% but would now be only making 12% if I did move. If you want UK reg cash players to come here you really need to rethink this. Please do not respond by saying you are giving the players 5k a week in tourneys to make up for it as you are giving the whole site as a whole 5k, so about 1 pound per player per week, in tourneys at a set time, which means 0 to cash players.  If you think I am talking rubbish about how much I play with because I don't play too much here and have not moved my roll here, besides my poker I occasionally like to gamble and looking at my history I have placed over 2k in bets on various slots on skyvegas in the last week which you can check.
    Posted by WOZZAAA

    Hi there Wozzaaa

    Not sure where you got those caluations from?

    Thanks
    Sky Poker
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Hi there Wozzaaa Not sure where you got those caluations from? Thanks Sky Poker
    Posted by Sky_Poker
    Still would like to know when the token is paid(following week?) & how long it is valid for?
  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Still would like to know when the token is paid(following week?) & how long it is valid for?
    Posted by belsibub
    T&C states within 48 hours of week ending
  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : T&C states within 48 hours of week ending
    Posted by Snuffer
    Say cash not tokens so would still like to see it in writing(assumption is the mother of all ...) & nothing about how long they last in t's & c's.
  • Sky_PokerSky_Poker Member Posts: 2,715
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Still would like to know when the token is paid(following week?) & how long it is valid for?
    Posted by belsibub
    Hi Belsibub - they will be valid for 14 days, we will make this clearer on the promo page.

    Thanks
    Sky Poker
  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Hi Belsibub - they will be valid for 14 days, we will make this clearer on the promo page. Thanks Sky Poker
    Posted by Sky_Poker
    Surely this is wrong.

    What about people going on holiday?

    The standard on some other sites is for tokens to be valid for three months. What is the reason for a very short period of usage unless it is to make it difficult for everyone to use them?
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Surely this is wrong. What about people going on holiday? The standard on some other sites is for tokens to be valid for three months. What is the reason for a very short period of usage unless it is to make it difficult for everyone to use them?
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    If you're about to go on holiday, are you really gonna be fretting over a £2.20 tournament token expiring?

    Was expecting Sky to say validity was one week, so a fortnight ain't too shabby.
  • F_IvanovicF_Ivanovic Member Posts: 2,412
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    Not sure if my maths is retarded, so please correct me if I'm wrong. If you are on platinum level you get 6 points per pound of rake at 2p per point so effectively making the rakeback 12%. If you then play a lot more and get close to becoming a priority bronze member you are encouraged by sky to stop playing for that week unless you are going to double the hands played as they will take 2% of the rakeback you earned off you if you don't make priority silver since priority bronze is only 10%. Now for a rant on something I am sure of. Needing to get 200k+ hands per month vs 10k to get the 20% rakeback is asking players to increase play by 2000% to get the same rewards. I have been thinking about moving my majority of play over here since my regular site had cut benefits by around 10% but you seem to have effectively slashed everything for high volume players in half and made it 4 times as hard to reach targets since the same ammount of points per month are now needed per week to reach those halved benefits. I would have quite comfortably been hitting priority at 20% but would now be only making 12% if I did move. If you want UK reg cash players to come here you really need to rethink this. Please do not respond by saying you are giving the players 5k a week in tourneys to make up for it as you are giving the whole site as a whole 5k, so about 1 pound per player per week, in tourneys at a set time, which means 0 to cash players.  If you think I am talking rubbish about how much I play with because I don't play too much here and have not moved my roll here, besides my poker I occasionally like to gamble and looking at my history I have placed over 2k in bets on various slots on skyvegas in the last week which you can check.
    Posted by WOZZAAA
    The 10% for getting Priority bronze is a "bonus" - so you get your 12% RB every week and then you get a 10% bonus at the end of the month for the whole month. It's definitely well worth making Priority - not making Priority is going to cost you a lot.
  • thefa1lacythefa1lacy Member Posts: 201
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : If you're about to go on holiday, are you really gonna be fretting over a £2.20 tournament token expiring? Was expecting Sky to say validity was one week, so a fortnight ain't too shabby.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    I was going on the Virgin Galactic space flight, was gonna be gone 3 weeks with the training. Now I won't be able to go if the generous £2.20 token from Sky only last for 14 days..

  • Ice_TigerIce_Tiger Member Posts: 1,533
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : If you're about to go on holiday, are you really gonna be fretting over a £2.20 tournament token expiring? Was expecting Sky to say validity was one week, so a fortnight ain't too shabby.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    The other sites that I have used all offer much longer useage periods for tokens. Whilst the period cannot be unlimited, the tokens have been earned so to give a usage period that some players cannot always use is just going to create ill feeling.

    Sffectively, no incentive in the week before a holiday.
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : The other sites that I have used all offer much longer useage periods for tokens. Whilst the period cannot be unlimited, the tokens have been earned so to give a usage period that some players cannot always use is just going to create ill feeling. Sffectively, no incentive in the week before a holiday.
    Posted by Ice_Tiger
    Think people need a reality check in their lives if a 2 quid token expiring before being used is enough to create ill feeling.

    I always thought the incentive to play poker (for rec players like us) was due to it being an enjoyable, and sometimes profitable, game. I would've thought anything above and beyond that is a bonus, and should be treated as such.

    If you're not gonna play poker on Sky the week before a holiday because you'll miss out on a £2.20 token whilst away, then that is pretty laughable IMO.
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Think people need a reality check in their lives if a 2 quid token expiring before being used is enough to create ill feeling.
    It isn't the cost.  It is the principle.
    'Come choose us as a site over our competitors and we will give you tokens'
    'You can't use tokens, muwahahahaha'
    I always thought the incentive to play poker (for rec players like us) was due to it being an enjoyable, and sometimes profitable, game.
    You are a lot of things.  A rec isn't one of them.
    I would've thought anything above and beyond that is a bonus, and should be treated as such. If you're not gonna play poker on Sky the week before a holiday because you'll miss out on a £2.20 token whilst away, then that is pretty laughable IMO.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    There are choices between many sites.  Not everyone is as loyal as the few.

    Chose the site that has a bonus you can use V the site with the bonus you can't use.

  • DUNMIDOSHDUNMIDOSH Member Posts: 1,473
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Think people need a reality check in their lives if a 2 quid token expiring before being used is enough to create ill feeling. I always thought the incentive to play poker (for rec players like us) was due to it being an enjoyable, and sometimes profitable, game. I would've thought anything above and beyond that is a bonus, and should be treated as such. If you're not gonna play poker on Sky the week before a holiday because you'll miss out on a £2.20 token whilst away, then that is pretty laughable IMO.
    Posted by hhyftrftdr
    Everyone has choices and opinions

    What matters to you, doesn't necessarily matter to anyone else

    Your decision to rubbish someone elses opinion

    Could be a reflection on your character.

    The clue to this discussion is in the title "Rewards"

    A reward is not a reward if you can't take advantage of it!
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : It isn't the cost.  It is the principle. 'Come choose us as a site over our competitors and we will give you tokens' 'You can't use tokens, muwahahahaha' You are a lot of things.  A rec isn't one of them. There are choices between many sites.  Not everyone is as loyal as the few. Chose the site that has a bonus you can use V the site with the bonus you can't use.
    Posted by MrWh1te
    You can use the tokens though. In a specific set of circumstances, whereby someone is going away for a fortnight the day the token is issued, then yes they will miss out on it. But that's maybe once a year? Twice perhaps for the average person on the street. And you'd be going on holiday for 2 weeks, who cares about a tournament token when 14 days in the sun awaits?

    There are many reasons to play on any given site. Whilst bonuses should be taken into consideration, it shouldn't exclusively be the deciding factor. I often get emails from Stars saying 'deposit X and we'll give you Y', but I rarely take them up on it as I'm not over the moon with large field tournaments.

    Oh, and I play poker recreationally, so yeah I'd say I was a rec player.
  • DUNMIDOSHDUNMIDOSH Member Posts: 1,473
    edited May 2015
    That still is a decision for the individual concerned.

    In recent weeks we've seen the demise of 861

    Proposed changes to the rewards scheme, that hit hard against the players who input cash into the system

    And in the four years I've been with Sky Poker I've witnessed prize money & fields for main events drop significantly Thursday's Bounty Hunter used to be £15k guaranteed now its £10k, Sunday's roller only made 150 entries when in the past the primo used to have well over 200 runners.

    I will be closing my account on June 14th because I can't see the situation improving.

    I'm only waiting till the 14th because I am waiting for a horse to run,

    The old reward scheme were you only had to obtain a 100 points a month to get something back (Now you have to get 50pts a week! if you play MTT's as I do, that equates to £50 a week)

    Tikay, Anna, Orford and all the great presenters that have been on 861, together with railing great tournaments with regulars like Scotty 77, TommyD, Maxally,Evil Pingu, CTBN and many more fantastic characters taking part
    .
    Were the major incentives to play on Sky poker.

    All the good bits have been taken away so why should players like myself subsidise the good players when you can get better rewards on other sites?

    I've loved Sky Poker when it was one big family! and enjoyed everyone of your posts on the WSOP!

    But it feels like being dumped by your Girlfriend and having the locks changed on the front door, the way we the customers are being treated at the moment.

    I just felt your comment about tokens was insensitive and I got the hump!

    I apologise if my comments upset you
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,341
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Still would like to know when the token is paid(following week?) & how long it is valid for?
    Posted by belsibub

    Frequently Asked Questions

    1. When is the new weekly Sky Poker Rewards credited?

    Cash and Tournament Tokens will both be credited to accounts within 48 hours of the week ending, so within 48 hours from 23:59:59 on the Sunday. The week runs from Monday to Sunday, and in this time you are effectively accumulating Poker Points for the week ahead.

     

     

    Terms & Conditions

    8. Players must have earned at least 100 Poker Points to receive a £2.20 Tournament Token. These tokens will be valid for 14 days from the date of issue.


  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards : Frequently Asked Questions 1. When is the new weekly Sky Poker Rewards credited? Cash and Tournament Tokens will both be credited to accounts within 48 hours of the week ending, so within 48 hours from 23:59:59 on the Sunday.  The week runs from Monday to Sunday, and in this time you are effectively accumulating Poker Points for the week ahead.     Terms & Conditions 8. Players must have earned at least 100 Poker Points to receive a £2.20 Tournament Token. These tokens will be valid for 14 days from the date of issue.
    Posted by mumsie
    Newly added t's & c's?
  • thefa1lacythefa1lacy Member Posts: 201
    edited May 2015
    Maybe it should be mentioned what the new fabled £2.20 token can be used for. A £1.15 DYM, or maybe a £1.10 MTT that struggles to get 25 runners and you need to make top 3. Or there's always the £2.20 Deep Stack of you have several hours to spare for little return..
  • SnufferSnuffer Member Posts: 3,057
    edited May 2015
    In Response to Re: New Sky Poker Rewards:
    Maybe it should be mentioned what the new fabled £2.20 token can be used for. A £1.15 DYM, or maybe a £1.10 MTT that struggles to get 25 runners and you need to make top 3. Or there's always the £2.20 Deep Stack of you have several hours to spare for little return..
    Posted by thefa1lacy
    Wouldn't advise using it for a £1.15 DYM as you won't get no change! Best use for it is use it as part payment for a bigger buy in.
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