Love reading books in my spare time, but they have to be fact, not a lover of fiction whatsoever. So recently I started reading personal development books, and I totally love them. At the minute I am reading The Chimp Paradox, really heavy at the beginning but when you get into it its great. Also recently I have just finished The Green Platform, amazing book really is. But my favourite has to be the classic by Dale Carnegie, How to win friends and influence people, this book really makes you think about how happy and successful people think, it was published first in the fifties and has been updated a few times since, but its an amazing book.
When you feel yourself 'going off the rails' you need to think about what your working towards and what a waste it is grinding out the sng's if your just gonna lump it on a push fold table.
Maybe invest in the mental game of poker it might help you with your tilt and help you understand why you get so frustrated with the game. If you find yourself down after a frustrating losing session, don't hop onto a bigger stake table still steaming without any skill edge, just let it go and work at getting it back the next session, you'll thank yourself when you still have a bankroll the next day.
As an MTT player I have more losing than winning sessions, if I resorted to the push or fold every time I was down I would find my bankroll empty extrmely quickly!
Just work on your discipline, we've all been there and stupidly blown bankrolls out of frustation.
Maybe give it another shot and if you start getting annoyed then end your session early, it isn't something you can't work on and no reason you should give up on your challenge
Thank you very much for posting groggy, but in fact the the real damage was done well before I came to your table. I am not sure but I think before tonight I won maybe 9 or 10 hu in a row, and somehow I became bored with that, spotted a great game in the dym section which included jac35, tikay eoin1961 and the like, my biggest weakness is I love playing a game of cards with good players I really do, just love testing myself against the best. Tonight it came at a price, that was an £11 dym bubbled it which I didn't mind as I thought I played ok, but then I thought why not try my luck at the £11 hu hilo, not clever. Long story short I lost 2 of these and a few £2 ones which I wasn't even concentrating on at the time, which led me to your table with I think approx £15 and first hand is bvb as per your post.
Thank you for your post and you are 100% correct with all your advice, apart from the fact you think you might have caused the derailment.
That was quite a game, that £11 DYM, & yes, as you say, playing against, shall we say, "competent" players really is fun.
I really wanted to win that one, to "balance my books" for the night, & gave it my all.
rohn was a bit unlucky early, not sure what happened to Grumpy Jac (Jac35), but soon we were 4 handed & I was the shortie for ages.
Eon had nearly half the chips, so it was all a bit awkward. The chap "steekie" was someone I was not familiar with, but he had an awkward style, & was handcuffing me, as he was sat to my left & seemed to be quite adept in an unusual way, (calling a lot) behind him the monster Eon, & to my right, you. Not a comfy seat.
My salvation was that 3 way pot we chopped with the wheel, that could have gone either way, & then steekie doubled me up with an odd one.
I don't quit recall the final hand, but I know it was a 3 way all-in - you, steekie & me. The table closed straight away, so I never even knew who had busted, I just got the "congrats" pop up, & was mightily relieved. Really enjoyable game, that.
It is always a pleasure to play against guys like you, who really know what they are doing. I don't mind playing the likes of Jac35, either.
Day 17 and 18 Played 4 £1.05 W4 L0 BR €65.70 A wee bit disappointed with the amount of volume I am putting in, i was unemployed for over a year and that was the time to take on something like this challenge. But obviously I would rather be working and struggling to play poker than playing poker and struggling to get work. I am enjoying it though and I suppose that's the main thing, a year ago poker was the only thing I really had in my life that gave me any happiness but then when I lost it used to feel devastating to me. Losing to me used to hurt so bad, whether it was a 30p dym or a £10 hu, but I really think now that I have other stuff going on I only now understand about how it really all works. So I suppose the moral of the story is the more serious you take something is not necessarily the right road to go down, and that a bit of balance might hit the spot a little better, all in my opinion of course. Kags Posted by _kagawa_
Very big +1 to that.
If we don't have balance, we become very boring indeed. Some of the semi regulars are completely unable to converse outside of poker, "& the flop came" stuff. There is one guy I know very well, been a player here as long as I can remember, & I know him both online & live. In the 7 or 8 years I have known him, we must have chatted a thousand times. And he has NEVER said a word about anything except poker. If I asked him about the crisis in Syria, he'd say "what crisis?", truly.
Love reading books in my spare time, but they have to be fact, not a lover of fiction whatsoever. So recently I started reading personal development books, and I totally love them. At the minute I am reading The Chimp Paradox, really heavy at the beginning but when you get into it its great. Also recently I have just finished The Green Platform, amazing book really is. But my favourite has to be the classic by Dale Carnegie, How to win friends and influence people, this book really makes you think about how happy and successful people think, it was published first in the fifties and has been updated a few times since, but its an amazing book. Kags Posted by _kagawa_
Reading books might be my no 1 passion, but ONLY non-fiction. I read books & collect them - I have well in excess of 1,000 - but I bet there are not more than 5 or 6 fiction books amongst them. Books are the nuts.
Now, stop with the tilting, get back & do another challenge.
That was quite a game, that £11 DYM, & yes, as you say, playing against, shall we say, "competent" players really is fun. I really wanted to win that one, to "balance my books" for the night, & gave it my all. rohn was a bit unlucky early, not sure what happened to Grumpy Jac (Jac35), but soon we were 4 handed & I was the shortie for ages. Eon had nearly half the chips, so it was all a bit awkward. The chap "steekie" was someone I was not familiar with, but he had an awkward style, & was handcuffing me, as he was sat to my left & seemed to be quite adept in an unusual way, (calling a lot) behind him the monster Eon, & to my right, you. Not a comfy seat. My salvation was that 3 way pot we chopped with the wheel, that could have gone either way, & then steekie doubled me up with an odd one. I don't quit recall the final hand, but I know it was a 3 way all-in - you, steekie & me. The table closed straight away, so I never even knew who had busted, I just got the "congrats" pop up, & was mightily relieved. Really enjoyable game, that. It is always a pleasure to play against guys like you, who really know what they are doing. I don't mind playing the likes of Jac35, either. Posted by Tikay10
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For once I agree with the old guy. Your thread is really balanced and good to read.
Sorry to hear you had a bad night and hope you have another bash at it.
In Response to Re: Kags challenge : ...... For once I agree with the old guy. Your thread is really balanced and good to read. Sorry to hear you had a bad night and hope you have another bash at it. Posted by Jac35
I'm glad my little poke in the ribs was not wasted.
And yes, "balanced diaries" are such a pleasure to read, I simply don't open the "poker poker poker & the flop came" Diaries. We have some good diaries here now, fair to say.
I have been following this thread and you have proven your ability to build a bankroll steadily.
I did see you at the £11 dym and was surprised (not cause your not good enough but surprised you had jumped so high in buy ins).
We are all human and can make mistakes, how about trying this challenge again and when your tempted to up stakes you will remember this and make sure the same thing doesnt happen again. Maybe aim lower this time perhaps £200?
Anyhow either way your still a very good player and someone I really admire.
Hi Kag, I have been following this thread and you have proven your ability to build a bankroll steadily. I did see you at the £11 dym and was surprised (not cause your not good enough but surprised you had jumped so high in buy ins). We are all human and can make mistakes, how about trying this challenge again and when your tempted to up stakes you will remember this and make sure the same thing doesnt happen again. Maybe aim lower this time perhaps £200? Anyhow either way your still a very good player and someone I really admire. Ger Posted by gerardirl
I have been I silent reader / admirer of your diary so far, ger has put into words far better than I could, hope you do try again and keep posting, it's human nature to get disillusioned when we make mistakes but the thing that stands out is your admitting it, therefore we learn from it it's refreshing to see that you haven't blamed bad beats, site, fish, etc etc, so in my humble opinion you will be stronger for this minor blip, good luck in your future choice and hope to see you on the felt soon.
When you wake up the morning after losing you roll the night before, and you don't think of it initially, then bang oh s&%*. Happy Saturday morning me, I think not. In fact I felt terrible, not because of the money, but because I had let myself down again. I was sure in my head that by doing this diary it would keep me on the straight and narrow.
So basically I felt miserable all day Saturday, watched the Utd v Pool game that made me even more miserable even though we won, worst first half of football I remember watching with these 2 teams. Delighted to see Martial coming on and what a goal to start with, but I couldn't get it out of my head the mess I made of my challenge.
I know this thread doesn't get a lot of interest apart from the boys and girls that have posted on here, but that's ok, plenty of people on the tables were wishing me luck and asking questions about it, which I loved.
When I hopped on late last night and seen the posts from the guys above, I swear it lifted my spirits straight away, you are an amazing bunch of people, and I am not saying that because its Tikay or Ger or the rest, I am saying it because its true.
Going to take a few days off and get my head back in the game, I know now that although HU may be my best game I cant seem to get over how boring it becomes after a while, which leads me to go off track every single time.
Might do a dym challenge next £5 to £10,000 (what do ya think ger) wink
Feel your pain. I can truly say I have been there and done that and the evidence is on here too.
Having a diary does help provide focus and discipline but I know all too well it can add a pressure to get results which can induce tilt.
Also dont assume only posters are reading. I follow alot more diaries than i post on as do many others. If I posted on every thread regularly that I follow I probably wouldn't get any poker played.
If you want to hook up on social media I would be happy to have a "tilt buddy" to discuss what tilts us and what we do when tilted then msg if we feel tilt is likely or already started.
Maybe dont set a challenge for a week or two and just play a few games tou like and beat and rebuild confidence?
Hi Kags. Feel your pain. I can truly say I have been there and done that and the evidence is on here too. Having a diary does help provide focus and discipline but I know all too well it can add a pressure to get results which can induce tilt. Also dont assume only posters are reading. I follow alot more diaries than i post on as do many others. If I posted on every thread regularly that I follow I probably wouldn't get any poker played. If you want to hook up on social media I would be happy to have a "tilt buddy" to discuss what tilts us and what we do when tilted then msg if we feel tilt is likely or already started. Maybe dont set a challenge for a week or two and just play a few games tou like and beat and rebuild confidence? Posted by Phantom66
Yep this is true. I am a regular reader.
Regarding losing the br..........don't beat yourself up about it. I'm pretty sure that 95%+ have blown their bankroll at some stage. When it happened to me it was a blessing in disguise, yes you're right it hurts but that is a good thing imo. When you reload you are determined to never let it happen again, you remember how much it hurt last time, it makes you more focussed and it certainly hammers home how important bankroll mangement is if you intend to try and build a roll.
Hi Kags. Feel your pain. I can truly say I have been there and done that and the evidence is on here too. Having a diary does help provide focus and discipline but I know all too well it can add a pressure to get results which can induce tilt. Also dont assume only posters are reading. I follow alot more diaries than i post on as do many others. If I posted on every thread regularly that I follow I probably wouldn't get any poker played. If you want to hook up on social media I would be happy to have a "tilt buddy" to discuss what tilts us and what we do when tilted then msg if we feel tilt is likely or already started. Maybe dont set a challenge for a week or two and just play a few games tou like and beat and rebuild confidence? Posted by Phantom66
Hi Phantom,
Firstly smashing idea on the FA cup HU thingy, it will be a massive hit imo, really looking forward to it, its actually really exciting wondering who your going to get in the first round lol, or maybe that's just me.
Also it is silly of me to assume the bolded above as I do the very same thing myself, there is at least 3 diaries I read here every day without fail but don't think I have posting on any.
With regards the tilt buddy, that's a very generous offer, but I feel this is something I need to sort out myself. To be honest it was more of a boredom issue at first on the night of the lost bankroll, which kind of escalated into a tilt issue. But thank you sincerely for the offer. Top bloke
In Response to Re: Kags challenge : Yep this is true. I am a regular reader. Regarding losing the br..........don't beat yourself up about it. I'm pretty sure that 95%+ have blown their bankroll at some stage. When it happened to me it was a blessing in disguise, yes you're right it hurts but that is a good thing imo. When you reload you are determined to never let it happen again, you remember how much it hurt last time, it makes you more focussed and it certainly hammers home how important bankroll mangement is if you intend to try and build a roll. Reload and have fun Posted by waller02
That's exactly what I intend to do.
Thanks for your advice waller, and thanks for reading aswell
In Response to Re: Kags challenge : Hi Phantom, Firstly smashing idea on the FA cup HU thingy, it will be a massive hit imo, really looking forward to it, its actually really exciting wondering who your going to get in the first round lol, or maybe that's just me. Also it is silly of me to assume the bolded above as I do the very same thing myself, there is at least 3 diaries I read here every day without fail but don't think I have posting on any. With regards the tilt buddy, that's a very generous offer, but I feel this is something I need to sort out myself. To be honest it was more of a boredom issue at first on the night of the lost bankroll, which kind of escalated into a tilt issue. But thank you sincerely for the offer. Top bloke Kags Posted by _kagawa_
Hi Kagawa, just a quick response to much that has been said above, in that i have only come across your diary last week but read it and didn't reply but enjoyed reading it.(Good diary, keep giving life stories and other interests. Go to poker clinic for hand analysis if you think they help).Like Tikay has said in the past some people(me) would struggle to get some players 3rd/4th or even 5th level thinking on such matters.... except a gut feeling of yes he has it or no that doesn't feel right and i call! when playing.
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Love reading books in my spare time, but they have to be fact, not a lover of fiction whatsoever.
So recently I started reading personal development books, and I totally love them.
At the minute I am reading The Chimp Paradox, really heavy at the beginning but when you get into it its great.
Also recently I have just finished The Green Platform, amazing book really is.
But my favourite has to be the classic by Dale Carnegie, How to win friends and influence people,
this book really makes you think about how happy and successful people think, it was published first in the fifties and has been updated a few times since, but its an amazing book.
Kags
Challenge over, went off the rails as per, thanks to whoever posted on here and gl all
Kags
I am not sure but I think before tonight I won maybe 9 or 10 hu in a row, and somehow I became bored with that, spotted a great game in the dym section which included jac35, tikay eoin1961 and the like, my biggest weakness is I love playing a game of cards with good players I really do, just love testing myself against the best.
Tonight it came at a price, that was an £11 dym bubbled it which I didn't mind as I thought I played ok, but then I thought why not try my luck at the £11 hu hilo, not clever.
Long story short I lost 2 of these and a few £2 ones which I wasn't even concentrating on at the time, which led me to your table with I think approx £15 and first hand is bvb as per your post.
Thank you for your post and you are 100% correct with all your advice, apart from the fact you think you might have caused the derailment.
Anyhow BR €0
Kags
That was quite a game, that £11 DYM, & yes, as you say, playing against, shall we say, "competent" players really is fun.
I really wanted to win that one, to "balance my books" for the night, & gave it my all.
rohn was a bit unlucky early, not sure what happened to Grumpy Jac (Jac35), but soon we were 4 handed & I was the shortie for ages.
Eon had nearly half the chips, so it was all a bit awkward. The chap "steekie" was someone I was not familiar with, but he had an awkward style, & was handcuffing me, as he was sat to my left & seemed to be quite adept in an unusual way, (calling a lot) behind him the monster Eon, & to my right, you. Not a comfy seat.
My salvation was that 3 way pot we chopped with the wheel, that could have gone either way, & then steekie doubled me up with an odd one.
I don't quit recall the final hand, but I know it was a 3 way all-in - you, steekie & me. The table closed straight away, so I never even knew who had busted, I just got the "congrats" pop up, & was mightily relieved. Really enjoyable game, that.
It is always a pleasure to play against guys like you, who really know what they are doing. I don't mind playing the likes of Jac35, either.
If we don't have balance, we become very boring indeed. Some of the semi regulars are completely unable to converse outside of poker, "& the flop came" stuff. There is one guy I know very well, been a player here as long as I can remember, & I know him both online & live. In the 7 or 8 years I have known him, we must have chatted a thousand times. And he has NEVER said a word about anything except poker. If I asked him about the crisis in Syria, he'd say "what crisis?", truly.
Liking the balance in the diary. See you later.
Now, stop with the tilting, get back & do another challenge.
How's the new job going?
And yes, "balanced diaries" are such a pleasure to read, I simply don't open the "poker poker poker & the flop came" Diaries. We have some good diaries here now, fair to say.
When you wake up the morning after losing you roll the night before, and you don't think of it initially, then bang oh s&%*.
Happy Saturday morning me, I think not. In fact I felt terrible, not because of the money, but because I had let myself down again. I was sure in my head that by doing this diary it would keep me on the straight and narrow.
So basically I felt miserable all day Saturday, watched the Utd v Pool game that made me even more miserable even though we won, worst first half of football I remember watching with these 2 teams. Delighted to see Martial coming on and what a goal to start with, but I couldn't get it out of my head the mess I made of my challenge.
I know this thread doesn't get a lot of interest apart from the boys and girls that have posted on here, but that's ok, plenty of people on the tables were wishing me luck and asking questions about it, which I loved.
When I hopped on late last night and seen the posts from the guys above, I swear it lifted my spirits straight away, you are an amazing bunch of people, and I am not saying that because its Tikay or Ger or the rest, I am saying it because its true.
Going to take a few days off and get my head back in the game, I know now that although HU may be my best game I cant seem to get over how boring it becomes after a while, which leads me to go off track every single time.
Might do a dym challenge next £5 to £10,000 (what do ya think ger) wink
Kags
Firstly smashing idea on the FA cup HU thingy, it will be a massive hit imo, really looking forward to it, its actually really exciting wondering who your going to get in the first round lol, or maybe that's just me.
Also it is silly of me to assume the bolded above as I do the very same thing myself, there is at least 3 diaries I read here every day without fail but don't think I have posting on any.
With regards the tilt buddy, that's a very generous offer, but I feel this is something I need to sort out myself.
To be honest it was more of a boredom issue at first on the night of the lost bankroll, which kind of escalated into a tilt issue. But thank you sincerely for the offer. Top bloke
Kags
Thanks for your advice waller, and thanks for reading aswell
Kags