I do feel a bit uneasy about it like Paul. It doesn't really affect me, I won't be paying for it. Posted by Lambert180
hi paul, i am fairly sure you won't be paying. that's perfectly fine with us both as you've had your HERO card posted for free for nearly a year. I am happy for this. It has been my pleasure.
It is a good idea from a business POV to get people using the service a lot while its free then introduce a charge. Does anyone know what's covered under the fee, like what can you view with/without it? Fwiw, I dunno if someone has already pointed it out to Rob and he's fixed it but I noticed yesterday the prices said stuff like 'was £110, now £55', this is dodgy ground cos I believe it has to be advertised at the original price for 28 days before you can say its reduced from said price. But that's a whole different kettle of fish. Posted by Lambert180
I have changed things. there was never a £110 option. basically i want it to be free. thereafter i anyone wishes to help out, great. i appreciate all those who have offered to in the past. I was delighted to be offered seats in tournaments worth hundreds but declined those offers on principle. i show HERO Cards for those who asked me to. There is a lot more too. Best Player, Results, Leagues, UKOPS, etc all free access. I have chosen not to display all 50,000 Hero Cards for free.
I'm not putting down the site but I don't see why anyone would pay other than as a nicety to Rob. Its a good useful site for free but iirc its more expensive than sharkskope and imo no where near as useful/comprehensive. Posted by Lambert180
Thanks Paul. It is meant to be a focussed tool for tournament players on sky poker..
Thanks Tikay and I understand it probably does need airing and any issues discussed. I just find it uneasy to start talking about this before Rob can have his say. People can start jumping to conclusions and I for one dont want to see him disappear from the site again for any misunderstandings. This site needs more contributions and people forget, as you regularily point out, that this is supposed to be fun and this adds to that IMO. Posted by CraigSG1
Thanks Craig.
I am here as long as I am wanted I will continue doing all of this for my friends, virtually friends, myself and anyone who wants me to.
I don't think we need another debate on this issue. I'm neutral on the whole thing. The advertising point was raised, clarified and deemed acceptable by Tommy and Tikay yesterday. It is not a HUD or comparable to one, so that has started a bit of a red herring. Big +1 To Teddy's post. It must take a lot of time and effort for Aussie to do what he does. People can make their own judgements as to the value to their game and whether it is worth subscribing for additional pay-to-view services. A clear opt-out option should be in place imo. Posted by Phantom66
In Response to Re: I thought HUDs on Sky were forbidden : +2 I have yet to see a less than sensible post from our Teddy. For the record I don't really mind Robs idea for charging on his site, but I kind of get why it has ruffled a few feathers, now Phantom how do I clear my search history again? Posted by HENDRIK62
I actually like some of aussies tables and check them most days.This has not been a problem.last year i even asked aussie to do a hero card for me it was fun. This came a problem when the site became a business with a direct link to the site. But as tikay said its ok. As its sky pokers forum it is there choice. Agree with lambert some of the pricing did look dodgy. Posted by stuarty117
Could skybet offer a small contract to aussie? Plenty of companies have part time workers. Posted by chilling
cool.
i carry no advertising or banners for anyone. i have been asked to carry advertising for certain other sites but i have declined all. my purpose is to be a benefit to sky poker alone and the players on sky poker. i am developing my website with sky poker at heart.
By way of comparison, a friend runs a website that must take at least as much time as the one in question here, but as it is first and foremost 'for the good of the community it serves' (it is non-poker related) it is wholly free with an opportunity for regular or grateful users to 'make a donation' - cognisant of the fact that it still takes time and involves cost of hosting etc and those that benefit from the site may want to help contribute to it's continuing existence and regular updates. Dare I suggest that the site in question here could consider a similar approach to cover costs? If it truly is useful to poker players that are profiting from the site, a decent amount of donations should be forthcoming at a price deemed acceptable to the user (also avoiding any false advertising issues as noted elsewhere in this thread). Everyone wins? Posted by shakinaces
I'll expand a little bit No one has urged Rob to do this. He has chosen to do it. Initially I thought it was for his own enjoyment. All posters on here post because they enjoy the forum and not because they expect a reward. From time to time Sky do recognise some outstanding contributions. Gary's results thread being a prime example. Posted by Jac35
just to add, i have chosen to do this for 6 years and have chosen to share this for over a year. i have done so for free. i dont expect any reward. thanks for your contributions.
In Response to Re: I thought HUDs on Sky were forbidden : This post nails it a hud is completely different and is in no way related at all to a service such as sharkscope or aussiescope. People can make there own mind up wheather or not they like the service thats fine but to compare it to a hud is wrong. Posted by bearlyther
Tbh don't see why there's much opposition to Aussie's leagues. It's essentially just a different version of SharkScope, but ran by a guy who cares about Sky Poker. I'm sure you can opt out if you wish just as you can with SS. Aussie also does free things like looking at top 100 'best players' that you can view for free and keeps the tally of the charity competition. Imo so what if he charges money to access certain elements, he puts in the effort to collate date, run site, etc so why shouldnt he benefit if people are willing to buy it. FWIW I wouldn't sign up as I can get all the info I need on SS which I have running subscription for Posted by FeelGroggy
Now that the issue has been fully aired,i would suggest to aussie that NOW is the time after years of graft to take some free tourney seats at the discretion of T.k. Purely a goodwill gesture.Even charity workers receive gongs. Posted by chilling
thank chills,
those buy-ins were actually offered by other players. it's incredible really. i have been absolutely bowled over by those who has been so generous not forgetting the players who have been kind enough to donate something.
I think the work you put into these stats is awesome - and scarey at the same time lol.
I personally would prefer my username NOT to appear in your database please. It's bad enough that I know my own stats - I wouldn't want to depress myself further by keep being able to look it up.
So can you please remove my stats from the database? I've opted out of sharkscope but can't find this option on your site to click.
Please don't be offended - I think your database is great - but I would prefer not to be part of it.
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In Response to Re: I thought HUDs on Sky were forbidden: I have changed things. there was never a £110 option. basically i want it to be free. thereafter i anyone wishes to help out, great. i appreciate all those who have offered to in the past. I was delighted to be offered seats in tournaments worth hundreds but declined those offers on principle. i show HERO Cards for those who asked me to. There is a lot more too. Best Player, Results, Leagues, UKOPS, etc all free access. I have chosen not to display all 50,000 Hero Cards for free.
In Response to Re: I thought HUDs on Sky were forbidden: Thanks Paul. It is meant to be a focussed tool for tournament players on sky poker..
I am here as long as I am wanted I will continue doing all of this for my friends, virtually friends, myself and anyone who wants me to.
i am glad you've added these comments stuarty.
cool.
i carry no advertising or banners for anyone. i have been asked to carry advertising for certain other sites but i have declined all. my purpose is to be a benefit to sky poker alone and the players on sky poker. i am developing my website with sky poker at heart.
excellent. that's where i want to be.
thanks bear. agreed.
thanks groggs.
those buy-ins were actually offered by other players. it's incredible really. i have been absolutely bowled over by those who has been so generous not forgetting the players who have been kind enough to donate something.
thanks rosie. good to know.
i will work out what can be done. of course, when you win something you will feature everywhere. leave it with me.
last time rosie and i chatted about numbers she went on to win the super roller.
underestimate at our peril. overestimate at our peril.
best avoided. ;-)