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  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It’s probably best to overlook the leaders, and go by the cabinets that they could put together.
    A degree in mathematics a must.

    Why?
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It’s probably best to overlook the leaders, and go by the cabinets that they could put together.
    A degree in mathematics a must.

    Why?
    Why?
    Because as your articles, captions, your comments , repeatedly show, they aren’t credible leaders.
    If the “Why” is for the mathematics,then all these good intentions need backing up with realistic funding .
    I know you don’t want to really vote for Labour, but you’ll probably put that X in the same box.
    I won’t be voting as usual,so I’m not bothered by the outcome.
    I probably won’t comment any further on the election, as it’s turned into complete tosh.
    Even surpassing what went on in Parliament.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    chilling said:

    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It’s probably best to overlook the leaders, and go by the cabinets that they could put together.
    A degree in mathematics a must.

    Why?
    HAYSIE said:

    chilling said:

    It’s probably best to overlook the leaders, and go by the cabinets that they could put together.
    A degree in mathematics a must.

    Why?
    Why?
    Because as your articles, captions, your comments , repeatedly show, they aren’t credible leaders.
    If the “Why” is for the mathematics,then all these good intentions need backing up with realistic funding .
    I know you don’t want to really vote for Labour, but you’ll probably put that X in the same box.
    I won’t be voting as usual,so I’m not bothered by the outcome.
    I probably won’t comment any further on the election, as it’s turned into complete tosh.
    Even surpassing what went on in Parliament.


    Much of it seems to be about common sense, and without the need to be highly intelligent.
    A requirement of a political leader, is surely the ability to persuade the public that their solution is correct for any particular problem that they face. This carries the public with them, and gets them elected. Its exactly the same as a sales pitch. If they get lots of sales they get elected, if not they don't.
    The biggest problem facing our country since the Second World War is Brexit, Corbyn cant even say where he stands on it. You either believe that Brexit is good for our country or not. There is no fence to sit on. How can you lead, and not say where you stand?
    Alternatively Boris seems to think he can lie about everything and get away with it.

    The problem with not voting is that you just have to accept the outcome, without having a say.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Putting aX in a box doesn’t mean you’re having your say.
    It means you’re backing,having faith in a leader for the next five years,through thick or thin.
    Who knows what issues are going to surface during that time.
    Come a crisis, then you end up with cabinet meetings.
    The leader does have the final say, but hopefully after more than a five minute chat.
    The Prime Minister is just the front man/lady,so you need to look at the whole shabang.
    Why would I want to vote for somebody I don’t personally know? I’ve not got the same faith as others appear to have. The ones that waddle down to vote, then come home, crack open a few beers as if they’ve achieved something.
    I’m aware that people fought for the right to vote, but not when the choice is made up of imbeciles.
    March the leaders into the Dragons Den one at a time.
    See if the Dragons can keep a straight face, and if they’ll invest.😊
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    Without boring anyone,Woking could be a good guide to any voting changes.
    Conservatives always win this constituency, but judging by the ranting on the local fb forum by Conservatives who voted for remain, whereas Jonathon Lord( the Tory MP) voted leave,it would make you believe the Liberals are going to do mighty well.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    chilling said:

    Putting aX in a box doesn’t mean you’re having your say.
    It means you’re backing,having faith in a leader for the next five years,through thick or thin.
    Who knows what issues are going to surface during that time.
    Come a crisis, then you end up with cabinet meetings.
    The leader does have the final say, but hopefully after more than a five minute chat.
    The Prime Minister is just the front man/lady,so you need to look at the whole shabang.
    Why would I want to vote for somebody I don’t personally know? I’ve not got the same faith as others appear to have. The ones that waddle down to vote, then come home, crack open a few beers as if they’ve achieved something.
    I’m aware that people fought for the right to vote, but not when the choice is made up of imbeciles.
    March the leaders into the Dragons Den one at a time.
    See if the Dragons can keep a straight face, and if they’ll invest.😊

    I am not particularly criticising anyone for not voting, nor could I recommend voting for any particular leader.
    Although I suppose if we end up with Boris the Disaster as our Prime Minister, then it could be blamed on those that voted Tory, and those that didn't vote.
    As those that didn't vote would have done nothing to stop it.
    Many people in this country have the view that we are world leaders in just about everything, when we patently aren't.
    I believe that Brexit is an important issue, so I will vote for one of he parties that favour a second referendum.

    I cant believe the nonsense that they put on the telly.
    Why would anyone care about the Greens manifesto?
    When are they likely to get a majority in Parliament?
    Whats the point of a Lib Dem manifesto?
    They wont get a Parliamentary majority in my lifetime.
    In both cases its a Jim Bowen, lets have a look at what you would have won.
    In the case of the Greens who have one MP. lets have a look at what you would do if you got 326.
    The Lib Dems don't start much closer.

    Lots of people will surface, to talk about Proportional Representation, but nothing will change.

    The sad things about this election are,

    We could end up with a Boris majority, a really bad Brexit deal, a Tory Government for the next five years, with a cabinet full of nasty hateful people.

    Alternatively we get another Hung Parliament, and continue to go around in circles.

    The biggest disappointment for me is that the parties in favour of another referendum, couldn't reach an agreement, and realise this goal.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,068
    Having Screwed up Brexit negotiations the Conservatives now want us to vote them back in, to screw up even more. ? Kissing babies and visiting Schools is old style Electioneering plus promising the World knowing you can't deliver wont wash.
    Things need to change Nigel's Brexit Party looked to fit the bill ....... till he sold out.
    So what are we left with.....three year down the road.

  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,949
    chilling said:

    Without boring anyone,Woking could be a good guide to any voting changes.
    Conservatives always win this constituency, but judging by the ranting on the local fb forum by Conservatives who voted for remain, whereas Jonathon Lord( the Tory MP) voted leave,it would make you believe the Liberals are going to do mighty well.

    Will the winning candidate be celebrating in the local Pizza Express...
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    lucy4 said:

    chilling said:

    Without boring anyone,Woking could be a good guide to any voting changes.
    Conservatives always win this constituency, but judging by the ranting on the local fb forum by Conservatives who voted for remain, whereas Jonathon Lord( the Tory MP) voted leave,it would make you believe the Liberals are going to do mighty well.

    Will the winning candidate be celebrating in the local Pizza Express...
    They can have any choice on the alibi menu.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    It must either be down to the eternal optimism, or complete disregard for the truth, that would lead to a politician pleading not guilty to 14 charges of sexual assault, involving 10 different women.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    lucy4 said:

    chilling said:

    Without boring anyone,Woking could be a good guide to any voting changes.
    Conservatives always win this constituency, but judging by the ranting on the local fb forum by Conservatives who voted for remain, whereas Jonathon Lord( the Tory MP) voted leave,it would make you believe the Liberals are going to do mighty well.

    Will the winning candidate be celebrating in the local Pizza Express...
    If they’re prepared to make a note of it in their diaries, then maybe.
    Folks are more concerned about making the town centre into something that resembles Hong Kong.
    30+ storied buildings going up, the natives aren’t happy. 2 years of disruption, plus more to come.
    Apparently they are so high because they can then be seen from the heart of London,and thus making Woking a hub.
    Mclaren have their HQ a km from my abode.
    I often see their cars getting a test drive.
    All for foreign markets of course.
    I see affluence all around me,and that’s where it stays.
    Maybe I can join their ranks one day, possibly through my tree planting buisness .
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,949
    HAYSIE said:

    It must either be down to the eternal optimism, or complete disregard for the truth, that would lead to a politician pleading not guilty to 14 charges of sexual assault, involving 10 different women.

    It's getting to a point now where each morning you turn on the news and are not surprised that yet another Actor,Sportsman,Politician,Media Person,Z Class Celebrity etc has been accused of some sort of abuse,misconduct etc. To such an extent that we've become blase to it all and take more interest in the social media side of it than what's actually happened.
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I need to check my closet for skeletons.
    I suggest others do the same.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Former EU ambassador blames Boris Johnson for creating 'biggest Brexit crisis'



    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/boris-johnson-blamed-for-biggest-brexit-crisis-eu-ambassador-122208169.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Police ‘order driver to remove “B******s to Brexit” sticker from car’
    Pro-EU campaigners claim officer pulled them over on M25 and told them slogan was ‘public order offence’


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Elderly Labour campaigner attacked on doorstep says he was ‘punched in face by angry Brexit supporter’
    ‘I was looking him in the eye and suddenly he gave me a cow tailer,' says Bob Thomson



    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-campaigner-attack-brexit-general-election-bob-thomson-halleby-rotherham-a9217796.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    edited November 2019
    Tory minister asks crowd if they want Brexit done, is told 'we don't want it done'
    Dominic Raab derided as Liberal Democrats launch significant challenge





    Foreign secretary Dominic Raab has been confronted by constituents angered by his Brexit plans as he campaigns to hold off a significant Liberal Democrat challenge to his Surrey seat.
    Mr Raab, who has represented Esher and Walton since 2010, attempted to sway voters at a hustings in St Andrew’s Church in Cobham by presenting his party as the only one who could deliver Brexit. However, he was quickly confronted by a wall of sound opposing his commitment to withdraw the UK from the European Union.

    As he spoke about the best way to “get Brexit done”, video footage from the event captured a number of people yelling “no, we don’t want it done, we don’t want Brexit done Mr Raab”.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-latest-brexit-dominic-raab-seat-liberal-democrats-esher-walton-a9217746.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    edited November 2019
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774


    What do German retailers know about Brexit that we don’t?
    Although “ conquer “ 👀 is suggested.




    They’re probably after their share of the US beef sales.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    chilling said:



    What do German retailers know about Brexit that we don’t?
    Although “ conquer “ 👀 is suggested.




    They’re probably after their share of the US beef sales.

    Firstly, its hormone free.

    Secondly, its a mere 35,000 tonnes to the whole of the EU.

    Thirdly, we wont be in the EU.
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