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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?

    Who do I blame ..ummm the driver obv. Strangely enough you aren't likely to think or know about any potential manufacturers faults as you hit the deck . :o
    It's ultimately the responsibility of the driver to ensure his car is roadworthy ...if the driver ran me over , he would be the person to sue not the manufacturer, and then I guess he could sue the manufacturer in return .. I'm sure Mr essexphil aka Ironside will be along to correct me shortly , but without exactly saying why i'm wrong ;)
    In least shocking news of the day, dobie continues to insult people. The only different thing is, in amongst the bile, there is actually a real opinion.

    First thought was to try and gently point out the differences between strict liability torts and regular ones such as negligence.

    But we all know what would happen next. You would demand I give further thoughts, then **** me off by saying you knew that really, and carry on in the wrong direction.

    So I will keep it nice and simple. Tom is 100% right. You are 100% wrong. Much like life, really.

    At least I now know why you want to keep your opinions secret, if they are as ill-thought out as that one....

    "Also posting such a stupid argument hardly respects the victims. The fact that this argument was incorrect just exacerbates matters".


    Showing empathy for victims after your ill advised and ignorant tirade on the TR thread is pretty much too late .

    You are obviously unable to distinguish the difference between a balanced view, and a tirade.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918

    HAYSIE said:

    haysie anyone who partly blames the parents of child rape victims, in my eyes and every decent thinking person is a disgusting person.

    How do you think the masterclass is going now?
    Nice to see some of your " gang " joining in . And also the latest obsession with masterclasses coming along nicely .
    At least if I had a gang they would be posting balanced views rather than nonsense and pictures.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?

    Who do I blame ..ummm the driver obv. Strangely enough you aren't likely to think or know about any potential manufacturers faults as you hit the deck . :o
    It's ultimately the responsibility of the driver to ensure his car is roadworthy ...if the driver ran me over , he would be the person to sue not the manufacturer, and then I guess he could sue the manufacturer in return .. I'm sure Mr essexphil aka Ironside will be along to correct me shortly , but without exactly saying why i'm wrong ;)
    In least shocking news of the day, dobie continues to insult people. The only different thing is, in amongst the bile, there is actually a real opinion.

    First thought was to try and gently point out the differences between strict liability torts and regular ones such as negligence.

    But we all know what would happen next. You would demand I give further thoughts, then **** me off by saying you knew that really, and carry on in the wrong direction.

    So I will keep it nice and simple. Tom is 100% right. You are 100% wrong. Much like life, really.

    "At least I now know why you want to keep your opinions secret, if they are as ill-thought out as that one....
    The whole gang is much more productive making hotpots than posting on this forum."

    You could probably do with a lesson in quoting properly

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?

    Who do I blame ..ummm the driver obv. Strangely enough you aren't likely to think or know about any potential manufacturers faults as you hit the deck . :o
    It's ultimately the responsibility of the driver to ensure his car is roadworthy ...if the driver ran me over , he would be the person to sue not the manufacturer, and then I guess he could sue the manufacturer in return .. I'm sure Mr essexphil aka Ironside will be along to correct me shortly , but without exactly saying why i'm wrong ;)
    In least shocking news of the day, dobie continues to insult people. The only different thing is, in amongst the bile, there is actually a real opinion.

    First thought was to try and gently point out the differences between strict liability torts and regular ones such as negligence.

    But we all know what would happen next. You would demand I give further thoughts, then **** me off by saying you knew that really, and carry on in the wrong direction.

    So I will keep it nice and simple. Tom is 100% right. You are 100% wrong. Much like life, really.

    "At least I now know why you want to keep your opinions secret, if they are as ill-thought out as that one....
    The whole gang is much more productive making hotpots than posting on this forum."

    You could probably do with a lesson in quoting properly

    All correct.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
    listen , just like your friend Tomgoodun , just trying to help .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Meanwhile in Brexit news : https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46428579

    Not that will ever happen , because politicians would have to face the angry backlash of the public , a vast majority of who would never trust them again to carry out the wishes of the electorate .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    More shock Brexit news , one of the protagonists disagrees with another one : ;)
    Brexit deal latest news: Mark Carney hits back at Lord King after predictions criticism
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    In other Brexit news , the BBC address the important issues of Brexit with this ( aren't you glad you pay your licence fee ? )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivCBQwl4p8w
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754

    HAYSIE said:

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
    listen , just like your friend Tomgoodun , just trying to help .
    Haysie and I have never met, we aren’t “friends” on Facebook or any other social media, I have agreed with him on some topics, and disagreed on others , I consider him a decent person who has his own opinions and that’s it., why you keep referring to me in answer to his posts is rather weird.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    edited December 2018
    tomgoodun said:

    HAYSIE said:

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
    listen , just like your friend Tomgoodun , just trying to help .
    Haysie and I have never met, we aren’t “friends” on Facebook or any other social media, I have agreed with him on some topics, and disagreed on others , I consider him a decent person who has his own opinions and that’s it., why you keep referring to me in answer to his posts is rather weird.
    Not really , you seem to have an opinion every now and then , seems fair enough to reference you . if you don't want to be included in the " debate " , then don't contribute . As an afterthought , hence the edit , if this is a clumsy attempt by you to disassociate yourself with Haysie , we all completely understand . Happy to " help " as always . :)
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754

    tomgoodun said:

    HAYSIE said:

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
    listen , just like your friend Tomgoodun , just trying to help .
    Haysie and I have never met, we aren’t “friends” on Facebook or any other social media, I have agreed with him on some topics, and disagreed on others , I consider him a decent person who has his own opinions and that’s it., why you keep referring to me in answer to his posts is rather weird.
    Not really , you seem to have an opinion every now and then , seems fair enough to reference you . if you don't want to be included in the " debate " , then don't contribute . As an afterthought , hence the edit , if this is a clumsy attempt by you to disassociate yourself with Haysie , we all completely understand . Happy to " help " as always . :)
    No attempt “clumsy” or otherwise to “disassociate “with Haysie, I quite enjoy his contributions, just wanted to clarify my assumed friendship, you know - that assumption thing you’re always berating others for...

  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    HAYSIE said:

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    To be honest , Haysie , I'm a little concerned after reading most of your recent posts , that the whole thread isn't really helping whatever mental health issues you might have . I wonder what social media users would make of you and a couple of others, should anyone who had a FB account for instance duplicate this thread for general viewing . I genuinely think there would be some concern for you . There is help out there .

    You should worry about your own contribution.
    listen , just like your friend Tomgoodun , just trying to help .
    Haysie and I have never met, we aren’t “friends” on Facebook or any other social media, I have agreed with him on some topics, and disagreed on others , I consider him a decent person who has his own opinions and that’s it., why you keep referring to me in answer to his posts is rather weird.
    Not really , you seem to have an opinion every now and then , seems fair enough to reference you . if you don't want to be included in the " debate " , then don't contribute . As an afterthought , hence the edit , if this is a clumsy attempt by you to disassociate yourself with Haysie , we all completely understand . Happy to " help " as always . :)
    No attempt “clumsy” or otherwise to “disassociate “with Haysie, I quite enjoy his contributions, just wanted to clarify my assumed friendship, you know - that assumption thing you’re always berating others for...

    Thanks for clarifying ...we all know now you aren't friends with Haysie ...on the edge of my seat for your next post .
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Brexit has already created 3,500 tech jobs in Brussels, says European business leader: ‘It’s a huge opportunity for Belgium’


    Thousands of tech jobs have moved to Brussels from the UK due to Brexit with expectations of more to come once Britain leaves the EU, according to a sector leader.
    As many as 3,500 roles have already been relocated to the Belgium capital, said Juan Bossicard, president of Microsoft’s Innovation Centre in the city.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/thousands-tech-jobs-already-moved-123100142.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Brexit: Shopping bills could rise 10% if UK leaves EU with no deal, Bank of England governor Mark Carney warns

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-no-deal-could-force-101200597.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Markets and pound hit by uncertainty over Brexit and ‘Tariff Man’ Trump


    Political uncertainty continued to weigh on top-flight stocks and the pound on Tuesday, amid further tensions over Brexit and global trade.
    MPs found the government to be in contempt of parliament for refusing to publish its legal advice on a draft Brexit deal in full during the late afternoon.

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/markets-pound-hit-uncertainty-over-175806262.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Three defeats as May’s authority takes a battering in the Commons


    Theresa May’s Government was found in contempt of Parliament as it suffered three Commons defeats in quick succession.
    With a crucial vote on the Brexit deal looming on December 11, what does it all mean for the Prime Minister’s authority

    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/three-defeats-may-authority-takes-200354986.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    'What's His Big Idea?': Tory MPs Tear Into Boris Johnson During Brexit Speech
    Not one Brexiteer rose to cheer him on.


    Boris Johnson’s leadership hopes look dashed as Tory MPs took turns laying into his big speech on Theresa May’s Brexit plans on Tuesday night.
    The ex-foreign secretary cut an isolated figure in the Commons as he sought to drum up Brexiteer support by tearing apart the prime minister’s unpopular withdrawal plans.

    During Johnson’s relatively short speech, there were nine interventions from Conservatives, while SNP MPs chipped in twice and Labour just once.

    The most stinging criticism came from the veteran Tory remainer and May loyalist Sir Roger Gale, who told Johnson: ”He appears to be one of those who prefers a grievance to the solution. The [PM] has come up with a solution. What’s his big idea?”

    Former business minister Anna Soubry, meanwhile, accused Johsnon of angling for a no-deal Brexit.
    She asked him to tell MPs “how his cunning plan which ends up with no deal will secure the 485,000 jobs which rely on the automotive sector” and claimed he only learned about the industry’s “just in time” supply chain operations six months ago.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/boris-johnson-brexit-speech_uk_5c06dcf9e4b0680a7ec999cb?ncid=other_topnaventr_coabgdcpxri
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,918
    Article 50: Law officer says UK can cancel Brexit

    The UK should be able to unilaterally cancel its withdrawal from the EU, according to a top European law officer.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46428579
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    Brexit: Shopping bills could rise 10% if UK leaves EU with no deal, Bank of England governor Mark Carney warns

    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-no-deal-could-force-101200597.html

    And other people will say he's full of it
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