Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
That is an absolutely pathetic comment, but expected from you.
Pleased to have met your expectations ..the truth is always a hard one to swallow !
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications. The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.
They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.
Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.
If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.
The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.
The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.
The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.
Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.
A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.
The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.
Well they cant all be telling the truth.
There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications. The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.
They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.
Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.
If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.
The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.
The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.
The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.
Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.
A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.
The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.
Well they cant all be telling the truth.
There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme exaggeration of what I said, but typical of you.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications. The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.
They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.
Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.
If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.
The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.
The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.
The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.
Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.
A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.
The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.
Well they cant all be telling the truth.
There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
And ?
And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications. The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.
They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.
Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.
If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.
The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.
The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.
The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.
Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.
A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.
The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.
Well they cant all be telling the truth.
There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
And ?
And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
Why would I need to agree or disagree with something which is painfully obvious and applies to all parties of opposing views over any subject .
Anyway , will leave you to your nonsensical inane ramblings , I have a lamb hotpot to attend to , and to be quite honest , even though the sheep is dead , it'll still provide a more reasoned conversation .
A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."
I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications. The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.
They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.
Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.
If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.
The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.
The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.
The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.
Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.
A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.
The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.
Well they cant all be telling the truth.
There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
And ?
And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
Why would I need to agree or disagree with something which is painfully obvious and applies to all parties of opposing views over any subject .
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
Do you mean distortion , professor?
No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
extortion /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit noun the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion" synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"
Anyway , will leave you to your nonsensical inane ramblings , I have a lamb hotpot to attend to , and to be quite honest , even though the sheep is dead , it'll still provide a more reasoned conversation .
Your time spent with the hotpot will probably be your most productive contribution to this forum.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
Do you mean distortion , professor?
No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
extortion /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit noun the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion" synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"
I'm sure Haysie will be along shortly to point out why he's wrong about all of it
Why don't you point out the things that you agree with, Mr Masterclass, that is such a superb debater, that he finds it impossible to answer any simple question.
Who said I agree with any of it ..it is merely another viewpoint from someone else to give this thread balance . What do you not understand about that ?
Why do you think that posting views that you clearly have no opinion of, and don't understand furthers this debate in any way.
The first point he makes suggesting that The Government are forced to seek tenders for projects as a result of being EU members, and wont have to after leaving is completely invalid as The Government have clearly said that they intend to continue with tenders after we leave. You cant really argue with tendering being a sensible option. The European company that have been chosen to produce our new blue passports, was £120million cheaper than the British company that currently has the contract. So unless you are in favour of the taxpayer being robbed, then tenders are good. A more important question is why the British company was 25% more expensive.
His second point regarding vat doesn't make sense to me. He is saying that a UK company selling their products in Sweden has to charge vat at 25% which is the rate in Sweden. Citing postage costs and the vat as barriers to trade. How could you deliver your products to Sweden without postage costs? Any competitors in Sweden, or any other EU member country, would have to charge vat at the same rate, and therefore provide a level playing field.
To quote difficulties facing companies that haven't met the vat threshold is misleading, as this means they are the very smallest of companies, whose turnover is very, very small.
His third point deals with compliance like this is something that wont apply to free trade deals with other countries.
Do you sell spam on your site ? I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.
I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.
Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir.
Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category
By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.
Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad.
You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it .
You’re wrong
If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .
If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .
Get help.
People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right . I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here . I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?
If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
Do you mean distortion , professor?
No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
extortion /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit noun the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion" synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"
It's not too late to self educate yourself !
I bow to your superior description of your own posts.
Comments
/ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit
noun
the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
"he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown
"he was arrested on a charge of extortion"
It's not too late to self educate yourself !