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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents

    That is an absolutely pathetic comment, but expected from you.
    Pleased to have met your expectations ..the truth is always a hard one to swallow !
    You should know.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."

    https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/

    I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications.
    The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.

    They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.

    Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.

    If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.

    The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.

    The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

    The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.

    Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.

    A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.

    The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.

    Well they cant all be telling the truth.

    There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
    So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
    Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."

    https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/

    I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications.
    The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.

    They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.

    Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.

    If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.

    The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.

    The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

    The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.

    Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.

    A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.

    The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.

    Well they cant all be telling the truth.

    There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
    So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
    Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
    And ?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    The noise you can't hear

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    From the Grinch that stole Brexit



    You seem to like pictures. What about the rest of the gang?
    Yep love them >>


    My Granddaughter used to like them too, but she has grown out of them now.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    The noise you can't hear

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    From the Grinch that stole Brexit



    You seem to like pictures. What about the rest of the gang?
    Yep love them >>


    My Granddaughter used to like them too, but she has grown out of them now.
    I should think so , by all accounts you're about 112
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575
    edited December 2018

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme exaggeration of what I said, but typical of you.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
    Do you mean distortion , professor? ;)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."

    https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/

    I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications.
    The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.

    They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.

    Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.

    If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.

    The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.

    The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

    The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.

    Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.

    A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.

    The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.

    Well they cant all be telling the truth.

    There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
    So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
    Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
    And ?
    And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    The noise you can't hear

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    From the Grinch that stole Brexit



    You seem to like pictures. What about the rest of the gang?
    Yep love them >>


    My Granddaughter used to like them too, but she has grown out of them now.
    I should think so , by all accounts you're about 112
    Younger than you, so does that make you 115?
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."

    https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/

    I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications.
    The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.

    They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.

    Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.

    If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.

    The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.

    The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

    The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.

    Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.

    A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.

    The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.

    Well they cant all be telling the truth.

    There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
    So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
    Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
    And ?
    And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
    Why would I need to agree or disagree with something which is painfully obvious and applies to all parties of opposing views over any subject .
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    Anyway , will leave you to your nonsensical inane ramblings , I have a lamb hotpot to attend to , and to be quite honest , even though the sheep is dead , it'll still provide a more reasoned conversation .
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    A quote from this article : " I should clarify that I was always more than happy to accept the many major flaws of EU membership and of the EU itself. However, in June 2016 for me the alternative was confusion and uncertainty. It was a case of ‘better the devil you know’. I was always very clear that we as a country are big enough and ugly enough to look after ourselves, but I just felt that the Leave campaign (and the Remain one too!) failed to articulate clear arguments in a way that would inspire me. There was no story about where we would go from here, and on both sides it seemed like lots of soundbites, shouting and slogans, with much less reasoned argument."

    https://brexitcentral.com/journey-reluctant-remainer-confident-brexiteer/

    I don't think it is any more straightforward that it was during the time of the referendum, although there are different disputed aspects, and some people are more aware of some of the implications.
    The Treasury has just produced a trade analysis, showing economic damage to the economy. Two other respected sources have produced the same reports showing very similar results.

    They all show that every Brexit option causes damage to the economy, and point to the fact that some options are less damaging than others.

    Yet Jacob Rees-Mogg and The ERG group which consists of around 80 Tory MPs, say they are untrue and a continuation of Project Fear.

    If you took one aspect, like a no deal Brexit.

    The Chancellor has admitted it would be a disaster.

    The PM has stopped saying no deal is better than a bad deal.

    The Governer of The Bank of England, has said it would be catastrophic and as bad as the 2008 crash.

    Yet The ERG maintain that it would be fine.

    A small number of Tory MPs maintain that no deal would be the best outcome.

    The analysis shows our economy being worse off by 9.3%.

    Well they cant all be telling the truth.

    There is a huge difference between the best outcome, and a disaster. There are many other disputed areas, and little seems to have changed.
    So hang on a minute , let me cut to the chase here ..we don't have to use a million words . "experts" on the remain side say one thing , " experts" on the leave side say another . And both believe they are right , but can't definitively prove it . The same was true pre vote . That's it in a nutshell , anyone from either side believes they are right about any particular outcome are deluded .
    Many MPs have adopted ideological positions and select arguments to suit.
    And ?
    And you are meant to agree with or dispute the point with reasoned argument, you still haven't got the hang of it.
    Why would I need to agree or disagree with something which is painfully obvious and applies to all parties of opposing views over any subject .
    Wow is that an opinion?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
    Do you mean distortion , professor? ;)
    No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
  • dobiesdrawdobiesdraw Member Posts: 2,793
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
    Do you mean distortion , professor? ;)
    No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
    extortion
    /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
    "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
    synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown
    "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"

    It's not too late to self educate yourself !
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    Anyway , will leave you to your nonsensical inane ramblings , I have a lamb hotpot to attend to , and to be quite honest , even though the sheep is dead , it'll still provide a more reasoned conversation .

    Your time spent with the hotpot will probably be your most productive contribution to this forum.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Interesting referendum results by region :

    https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/past-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information

    I understand that Haysie would rather talk about his long suffering dog and gangs .

    I have informed the RSPCA.
    How is the masterclass going?
    Talking and responding to yourself ?
    No clearly a question for your mate.
    Try to keep up, I clearly asked your mate how he thought the masterclass was going.
    Does the hotpot make it a cooking masterclass?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
    Do you mean distortion , professor? ;)
    No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
    extortion
    /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
    "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
    synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown
    "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"

    It's not too late to self educate yourself !
    Youre not clever enough to even vote.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    An article by Jonathon Arnott an MEP, specifically highlighting what he thinks are benefits of leaving : http://www.jonathanarnott.co.uk/2018/06/benefits-of-brexit/

    I'm sure Haysie will be along shortly to point out why he's wrong about all of it :D

    Why don't you point out the things that you agree with, Mr Masterclass, that is such a superb debater, that he finds it impossible to answer any simple question.
    Who said I agree with any of it ..it is merely another viewpoint from someone else to give this thread balance . What do you not understand about that ?
    Why do you think that posting views that you clearly have no opinion of, and don't understand furthers this debate in any way.
    The first point he makes suggesting that The Government are forced to seek tenders for projects as a result of being EU members, and wont have to after leaving is completely invalid as The Government have clearly said that they intend to continue with tenders after we leave.
    You cant really argue with tendering being a sensible option.
    The European company that have been chosen to produce our new blue passports, was £120million cheaper than the British company that currently has the contract.
    So unless you are in favour of the taxpayer being robbed, then tenders are good.
    A more important question is why the British company was 25% more expensive.

    His second point regarding vat doesn't make sense to me.
    He is saying that a UK company selling their products in Sweden has to charge vat at 25% which is the rate in Sweden.
    Citing postage costs and the vat as barriers to trade.
    How could you deliver your products to Sweden without postage costs?
    Any competitors in Sweden, or any other EU member country, would have to charge vat at the same rate, and therefore provide a level playing field.

    To quote difficulties facing companies that haven't met the vat threshold is misleading, as this means they are the very smallest of companies, whose turnover is very, very small.

    His third point deals with compliance like this is something that wont apply to free trade deals with other countries.

    I am bored with this now.

    You got any opinions or thoughts?
    Where are your intelligent thoughts?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575
    HAYSIE said:

    The noise you can't hear

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    From the Grinch that stole Brexit



    You seem to like pictures. What about the rest of the gang?
    Yep love them >>


    My Granddaughter used to like them too, but she has grown out of them now.
    You seem to be in charge of posting for the whole gang today?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,575

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    tomgoodun said:

    Do you sell spam on your site ?
    I used to enjoy spam sandwiches, but I find it too expensive these days.

    I didn’t think these links were allowed here, may be wrong, best to ask the people who are busy in Manchester at present.

    :D Typical lefty, Dobie, is giving you a masterclass, so you resort to i am telling sir. :D:D
    Define “Leftie” and how you put me in that category

    By “Telling sir” I’m guessing ( In your small minded world) you mean report it ? I haven’t , I will refrain from calling you a liar , as the bending of the truth is your modus operandi which everyone is accustomed to.

    Same as Phil tried, and was shot down I was merely trying to help, and it has been twisted around which is sad
    .
    You weren't trying to be helpful , just snidey as usual and got called out accurately for it . :D
    You’re wrong

    If someone tries to help you accross the road, they aren’t trying to nick your purse .

    If they point to the other side of the road, they aren’t a member of Isis .

    Get help.

    People are more than capable of seeing straight through your stuff , however you might want to try and dress up the words , Rainman called it right .
    I suggest if you have anything to say about Isis you should contribute to the TR thread instead of slyly trying to introduce it on here .
    I don't need any help , I don't have any problems controlling my emotions on a forum .
    Are you suggesting Rainman should stick to the TR thread with his views on the above?

    If the car developed a fault with the brakes and steering , do you still blame the driver , or the manufacturer?
    Anyone that could relate these horrific crimes against young children, with car problems, is extremely foolish.
    All of a sudden you care about the victims ..I thought you were too busy trying to blame the parents
    This is an extreme extortion of what I said, but typical of you.
    Do you mean distortion , professor? ;)
    No I meant exaggerated as per the post.
    extortion
    /ɪkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n,ɛkˈstɔːʃ(ə)n/Submit
    noun
    the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
    "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"
    synonyms: demanding money with menaces, exaction, extraction, blackmail; shakedown
    "he was arrested on a charge of extortion"

    It's not too late to self educate yourself !
    I bow to your superior description of your own posts.
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