Hi @peter27 ..... really WELL DONE on making the Final Table and Ca$hing nicely. I know I chat a lot, but I'm actually a HE
I follow your diary and progress with interest, as I think we're quite similar, in that we're always looking to improve and understand more about the Game. It was good to share a table again last night, except for the pretty brutal beat obviously ....and good to see you were quite aggressive, and not folding Q-Q's to a min. raise.
When I looked at my exit hand again, if I had been you, I personally wouldn't have been calling my SHOVE in a Freezeout with A-T , it may be different if it was a Bounty Hunter I will post the hand for the better players to advise us both on, @MattBates, @rspca12, @MynaFrett , @FeNdeR36 , and all who kindly contribute to help.
GOOD LUCK at the tables.... Best wishes JEZ
Oh apologies! I assumed she because of your display picture.
When you shoved that many big blinds, I figured it's either A9, an overpair, a flush draw, or air. On balance, I knew I shouldn't be calling. There are way more hand combinations beating me than I am beating. It's actually an easy fold.
But as I mentioned above, knowing to fold and actually following through are two different things.
Good luck, I'm sure you'll get me back when we next meet.
That AsTs vs JJ is never a fold as played. You are calling 9,000 to get 26,000 chips which is more than priced in even if only your nut flush outs are good and ignoring your ace or the back door tens You can possibly take a tiny bit off for ICM, but it is still a clear call.
You can argue about the pre flop reraise, but I like it from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit. You'd have to be some sort of high level poker beast with thinking well above me to think of a good reason not to bet that flop and once you do, you must call.
Hi @peter27 ..... really WELL DONE on making the Final Table and Ca$hing nicely. I know I chat a lot, but I'm actually a HE
I follow your diary and progress with interest, as I think we're quite similar, in that we're always looking to improve and understand more about the Game. It was good to share a table again last night, except for the pretty brutal beat obviously ....and good to see you were quite aggressive, and not folding Q-Q's to a min. raise.
When I looked at my exit hand again, if I had been you, I personally wouldn't have been calling my SHOVE in a Freezeout with A-T , it may be different if it was a Bounty Hunter I will post the hand for the better players to advise us both on, @MattBates, @rspca12, @MynaFrett , @FeNdeR36 , and all who kindly contribute to help.
GOOD LUCK at the tables.... Best wishes JEZ
Oh apologies! I assumed she because of your display picture.
When you shoved that many big blinds, I figured it's either A9, an overpair, a flush draw, or air. On balance, I knew I shouldn't be calling. There are way more hand combinations beating me than I am beating. It's actually an easy fold.
But as I mentioned above, knowing to fold and actually following through are two different things.
Good luck, I'm sure you'll get me back when we next meet.
That AsTs vs JJ is never a fold as played. You are calling 9,000 to get 26,000 chips which is more than priced in even if only your nut flush outs are good and ignoring your ace or the back door tens You can possibly take a tiny bit off for ICM, but it is still a clear call.
You can argue about the pre flop reraise, but I like it from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit. You'd have to be some sort of high level poker beast with thinking well above me to think of a good reason not to bet that flop and once you do, you must call.
Congrats on the cash.
@Doooobs Unless I am reading it wrong, we don't have a flush draw
Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.
Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.
Just checked again now, and it is my eyesight that is the issue. I just checked and the cards on the flop look like spades in the hand history, but when I hover over them with the mouse they are clubs. Sorry for any confusion.
Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.
Just checked again now, and it is my eyesight that is the issue. I just checked and the cards on the flop look like spades in the hand history, but when I hover over them with the mouse they are clubs. Sorry for any confusion.
I find I often do the same when looking at the Hand Histories, the Clubs and Spades do look very similar, especially when I'm playing on a little 11" Notebook. I'm finding I'm having to give in and where Reading Glasses much more
I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too
I find I often do the same when looking at the Hand Histories, the Clubs and Spades do look very similar, especially when I'm playing on a little 11" Notebook. I'm finding I'm having to give in and where Reading Glasses much more
I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too
AS I've told you before, buy a new lappy u tightarse!
Last hand i,d have just Min raise called or jammed. Think 3x is too much at those stack depths
Hmmm ..
Calling: Seems far too passive with AJo to me? Even UTG. Min-Raise: Do you mean to keep the pot size small? I guess I see that, but difficult in that moment with my standard size being 3x. Shove: 14BB's, I can see that logic.
Really don't like 3x this late on and especially not from this stack depth? How often are you raise folding?
Good point about stack depth, this is probably something I need to consider more. Wouldn't raise-fold without a read that the player was tight I guess.
Q3 is done. Solid profit for two quarters is nice.
Q1 2020: Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins
Q2 2020: Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins
Q3 2020: Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins
Target in Q4 has to be to get that win number up. It has to be said that I now feel like I at least understand the correct strategy in the later stages, so I would expect next quarters results to be significantly better. Let's see.
I think that might class as two words tbf! But excellent stuff I can now add dogshit to my posts and get past the filters
You keep getting advice but I feel like you don’t want to take it. For example why is 3x still your standard raise size?
Good luck
You're not the first person to say this, so I guess there's probably some truth in it. But I don't understand that at all. My play has changed massively based on the feedback here and I respond to almost every piece of advice whilst also testing it out.
The specific instance your listing was the late stages of a tournament and I recently increased the pre-flop raise size to 3x on the basis of trying to be more aggressive - based on prior feedback I had on here. However, @MP33 mentioned that this was too much at those stack depths and I acknowledged that, and have subsequently reduced to 2x in the later stages.
The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.
Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
d4y0
Small blind
100.00
100.00
16693.75
Bubbles33
Big blind
200.00
300.00
6565.00
Your hole cards
A
5
K33TSYA1
Fold
jft320
Raise
400.00
700.00
17978.75
peter27
Call
400.00
1100.00
9825.00
FUNKY88
Fold
d4y0
Call
300.00
1400.00
16393.75
Bubbles33
Call
200.00
1600.00
6365.00
Flop
6
A
4
d4y0
Check
Bubbles33
Bet
1600.00
3200.00
4765.00
jft320
Fold
peter27
Call
1600.00
4800.00
8225.00
d4y0
Fold
Turn
7
Bubbles33
All-in
4765.00
9565.00
0.00
peter27
Call
4765.00
14330.00
3460.00
Bubbles33
Show
A
K
peter27
Show
A
5
River
4
Bubbles33
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and 4s
14330.00
14330.00
Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.
Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
d4y0
Small blind
100.00
100.00
16693.75
Bubbles33
Big blind
200.00
300.00
6565.00
Your hole cards
A
5
K33TSYA1
Fold
jft320
Raise
400.00
700.00
17978.75
peter27
Call
400.00
1100.00
9825.00
FUNKY88
Fold
d4y0
Call
300.00
1400.00
16393.75
Bubbles33
Call
200.00
1600.00
6365.00
Flop
6
A
4
d4y0
Check
Bubbles33
Bet
1600.00
3200.00
4765.00
jft320
Fold
peter27
Call
1600.00
4800.00
8225.00
d4y0
Fold
Turn
7
Bubbles33
All-in
4765.00
9565.00
0.00
peter27
Call
4765.00
14330.00
3460.00
Bubbles33
Show
A
K
peter27
Show
A
5
River
4
Bubbles33
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and 4s
14330.00
14330.00
Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.
Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
d4y0
Small blind
100.00
100.00
16693.75
Bubbles33
Big blind
200.00
300.00
6565.00
Your hole cards
A
5
K33TSYA1
Fold
jft320
Raise
400.00
700.00
17978.75
peter27
Call
400.00
1100.00
9825.00
FUNKY88
Fold
d4y0
Call
300.00
1400.00
16393.75
Bubbles33
Call
200.00
1600.00
6365.00
Flop
6
A
4
d4y0
Check
Bubbles33
Bet
1600.00
3200.00
4765.00
jft320
Fold
peter27
Call
1600.00
4800.00
8225.00
d4y0
Fold
Turn
7
Bubbles33
All-in
4765.00
9565.00
0.00
peter27
Call
4765.00
14330.00
3460.00
Bubbles33
Show
A
K
peter27
Show
A
5
River
4
Bubbles33
Win
Two Pairs, Aces and 4s
14330.00
14330.00
Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
Fold pre flop.
You're welcome.
Fold a suited ace pre-flop to a min raise from the HJ?! Surely not.
The more you bet, the more pressure you're putting on the opponent. That's a part of aggression in a poker context, no?
Using your logic, why don't you 4x then?
If you 3x from say a 20bb stack do you think the range of hands you open with is tight or wide?
Surely it's a risk vs reward thing? The number of hands you get to fold out as you increase your pre-flop raise size will decrease on an inversely exponential basis. In other words, the benefits of 4x vs 3x are limited.
Well I can now see why 3x'ing from a 20BB stack makes little sense. But to answer your question, tight.
Comments
You can argue about the pre flop reraise, but I like it from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit. You'd have to be some sort of high level poker beast with thinking well above me to think of a good reason not to bet that flop and once you do, you must call.
Congrats on the cash.
I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too
I find I often do the same when looking at the Hand Histories, the Clubs and Spades do look very similar, especially when I'm playing on a little 11" Notebook. I'm finding I'm having to give in and where Reading Glasses much more
I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too
AS I've told you before, buy a new lappy u tightarse!
Calling: Seems far too passive with AJo to me? Even UTG.
Min-Raise: Do you mean to keep the pot size small? I guess I see that, but difficult in that moment with my standard size being 3x.
Shove: 14BB's, I can see that logic. Good point about stack depth, this is probably something I need to consider more. Wouldn't raise-fold without a read that the player was tight I guess. To be honest, I only learned this in the last few weeks. I don't feel like I'm playing tight, but apparently I am
Q1 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins
Q2 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins
Q3 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins
Target in Q4 has to be to get that win number up. It has to be said that I now feel like I at least understand the correct strategy in the later stages, so I would expect next quarters results to be significantly better. Let's see.
Even when I started playing poker and was just button clicking my results were better than this. Currently on a 15 tournament streak without cashing.
Q1 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins
Q2 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins
Q3 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins
Q4 2020:
Tournaments: 15
Buy-Ins: £94.00
Cashes: £8.91
FT's: 0
Wins: 0
But excellent stuff
I can now add dogshit to my posts and get past the filters
You keep getting advice but I feel like you don’t want to take it.
For example why is 3x still your standard raise size?
Good luck
The specific instance your listing was the late stages of a tournament and I recently increased the pre-flop raise size to 3x on the basis of trying to be more aggressive - based on prior feedback I had on here. However, @MP33 mentioned that this was too much at those stack depths and I acknowledged that, and have subsequently reduced to 2x in the later stages.
The more you bet, the more pressure you're putting on the opponent. That's a part of aggression in a poker context, no?
Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.
You're welcome.
What is supposed to happen to the £9.61 on my head? I thought I was supposed to win that too, but I do not believe I was paid it.
Q1 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins
Q2 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins
Q3 2020:
Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins
Q4 2020:
Tournaments: 24
Buy-Ins: £153.50
Cashes: £122.27
FT's: 1
Wins: 1
If you 3x from say a 20bb stack do you think the range of hands you open with is tight or wide?
Well I can now see why 3x'ing from a 20BB stack makes little sense. But to answer your question, tight.