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Diary of a determined player

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  • DoooobsDoooobs Member Posts: 241
    peter27 said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    Hi @peter27 ..... really WELL DONE on making the Final Table and Ca$hing nicely. I know I chat a lot, but I'm actually a HE :)

    I follow your diary and progress with interest, as I think we're quite similar, in that we're always looking to improve and understand more about the Game. It was good to share a table again last night, except for the pretty brutal beat obviously :/
    ....and good to see you were quite aggressive, and not folding Q-Q's to a min. raise. ;)

    When I looked at my exit hand again, if I had been you, I personally wouldn't have been calling my SHOVE in a Freezeout with A-T , it may be different if it was a Bounty Hunter
    I will post the hand for the better players to advise us both on, @MattBates, @rspca12, @MynaFrett , @FeNdeR36 , and all who kindly contribute to help.

    GOOD LUCK at the tables....
    Best wishes
    JEZ

    Oh apologies! I assumed she because of your display picture.

    When you shoved that many big blinds, I figured it's either A9, an overpair, a flush draw, or air. On balance, I knew I shouldn't be calling. There are way more hand combinations beating me than I am beating. It's actually an easy fold.

    But as I mentioned above, knowing to fold and actually following through are two different things.

    Good luck, I'm sure you'll get me back when we next meet.
    That AsTs vs JJ is never a fold as played. You are calling 9,000 to get 26,000 chips which is more than priced in even if only your nut flush outs are good and ignoring your ace or the back door tens :/ You can possibly take a tiny bit off for ICM, but it is still a clear call.

    You can argue about the pre flop reraise, but I like it from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit. You'd have to be some sort of high level poker beast with thinking well above me to think of a good reason not to bet that flop and once you do, you must call.

    Congrats on the cash.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Doooobs said:

    peter27 said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    Hi @peter27 ..... really WELL DONE on making the Final Table and Ca$hing nicely. I know I chat a lot, but I'm actually a HE :)

    I follow your diary and progress with interest, as I think we're quite similar, in that we're always looking to improve and understand more about the Game. It was good to share a table again last night, except for the pretty brutal beat obviously :/
    ....and good to see you were quite aggressive, and not folding Q-Q's to a min. raise. ;)

    When I looked at my exit hand again, if I had been you, I personally wouldn't have been calling my SHOVE in a Freezeout with A-T , it may be different if it was a Bounty Hunter
    I will post the hand for the better players to advise us both on, @MattBates, @rspca12, @MynaFrett , @FeNdeR36 , and all who kindly contribute to help.

    GOOD LUCK at the tables....
    Best wishes
    JEZ

    Oh apologies! I assumed she because of your display picture.

    When you shoved that many big blinds, I figured it's either A9, an overpair, a flush draw, or air. On balance, I knew I shouldn't be calling. There are way more hand combinations beating me than I am beating. It's actually an easy fold.

    But as I mentioned above, knowing to fold and actually following through are two different things.

    Good luck, I'm sure you'll get me back when we next meet.
    That AsTs vs JJ is never a fold as played. You are calling 9,000 to get 26,000 chips which is more than priced in even if only your nut flush outs are good and ignoring your ace or the back door tens :/ You can possibly take a tiny bit off for ICM, but it is still a clear call.

    You can argue about the pre flop reraise, but I like it from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit. You'd have to be some sort of high level poker beast with thinking well above me to think of a good reason not to bet that flop and once you do, you must call.

    Congrats on the cash.
    @Doooobs Unless I am reading it wrong, we don't have a flush draw
  • DoooobsDoooobs Member Posts: 241
    Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.
  • DoooobsDoooobs Member Posts: 241
    Doooobs said:

    Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.

    Just checked again now, and it is my eyesight that is the issue. I just checked and the cards on the flop look like spades in the hand history, but when I hover over them with the mouse they are clubs. Sorry for any confusion.
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,296
    Doooobs said:

    Doooobs said:

    Was showing as a flush draw on my PC, but maybe just bad graphics on the hand histories mixed with a creaking PC. The comments didn't make a lot of sense on what I could see. If no flush draw it looks much worse.

    Just checked again now, and it is my eyesight that is the issue. I just checked and the cards on the flop look like spades in the hand history, but when I hover over them with the mouse they are clubs. Sorry for any confusion.
    I find I often do the same when looking at the Hand Histories, the Clubs and Spades do look very similar, especially when I'm playing on a little 11" Notebook. I'm finding I'm having to give in and where Reading Glasses much more :(

    I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,444

    I find I often do the same when looking at the Hand Histories, the Clubs and Spades do look very similar, especially when I'm playing on a little 11" Notebook. I'm finding I'm having to give in and where Reading Glasses much more :(

    I could definitely have understood @peter27 calling my SHOVE if he had the Nut Flush draw too

    AS I've told you before, buy a new lappy u tightarse!

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    MP33 said:

    WD on a good result Peter. I did watch a bit from 7 or 8 down.

    Like you i,m struggling with late stages so won,t comment to much on the hands as it could well be wrong info.

    Think the 3 bet in first hand is too small though. I,d either jam or call. Depends on reads on Tony.

    That's a good point I hadn't considered. I suppose the 3-bet is about 25% of my stack, so maybe not the best move. Cheers!
    MP33 said:


    Last hand i,d have just Min raise called or jammed. Think 3x is too much at those stack depths

    Hmmm ..

    Calling: Seems far too passive with AJo to me? Even UTG.
    Min-Raise: Do you mean to keep the pot size small? I guess I see that, but difficult in that moment with my standard size being 3x.
    Shove: 14BB's, I can see that logic.
    MattBates said:


    Really don't like 3x this late on and especially not from this stack depth? How often are you raise folding?

    Good point about stack depth, this is probably something I need to consider more. Wouldn't raise-fold without a read that the player was tight I guess.
    Doooobs said:

    from someone who has a rep for being an uber-nit.

    To be honest, I only learned this in the last few weeks. I don't feel like I'm playing tight, but apparently I am :o

  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited October 2020
    Q3 is done. Solid profit for two quarters is nice.

    Q1 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
    Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins

    Q2 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins

    Q3 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins

    Target in Q4 has to be to get that win number up. It has to be said that I now feel like I at least understand the correct strategy in the later stages, so I would expect next quarters results to be significantly better. Let's see.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited October 2020
    I can only think of one word to describe this month so far; dogshit.

    Even when I started playing poker and was just button clicking my results were better than this. Currently on a 15 tournament streak without cashing.

    Q1 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
    Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins

    Q2 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins

    Q3 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins

    Q4 2020:
    Tournaments: 15
    Buy-Ins: £94.00
    Cashes: £8.91
    FT's: 0
    Wins: 0
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,491
    I think that might class as two words tbf!
    But excellent stuff
    I can now add dogshit to my posts and get past the filters :)

    You keep getting advice but I feel like you don’t want to take it.
    For example why is 3x still your standard raise size?

    Good luck
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    peter27 said:

    Currently on a 15 tournament streak without cashing.

    Just finished 7th in a turbo bounty hunter to cash, so all is well in the World again. 15 tournaments though. 'kin 'ell.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    Jac35 said:

    I think that might class as two words tbf!
    But excellent stuff
    I can now add dogshit to my posts and get past the filters :)

    You keep getting advice but I feel like you don’t want to take it.
    For example why is 3x still your standard raise size?

    Good luck

    You're not the first person to say this, so I guess there's probably some truth in it. But I don't understand that at all. My play has changed massively based on the feedback here and I respond to almost every piece of advice whilst also testing it out.

    The specific instance your listing was the late stages of a tournament and I recently increased the pre-flop raise size to 3x on the basis of trying to be more aggressive - based on prior feedback I had on here. However, @MP33 mentioned that this was too much at those stack depths and I acknowledged that, and have subsequently reduced to 2x in the later stages.
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    Why is 3x more aggressive?



  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited October 2020
    MattBates said:

    Why is 3x more aggressive?

    Um. I don't think I understand the question.

    The more you bet, the more pressure you're putting on the opponent. That's a part of aggression in a poker context, no?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.

    Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    d4y0Small blind100.00100.0016693.75
    Bubbles33Big blind200.00300.006565.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
    K33TSYA1Fold
    jft320Raise400.00700.0017978.75
    peter27Call400.001100.009825.00
    FUNKY88Fold
    d4y0Call300.001400.0016393.75
    Bubbles33Call200.001600.006365.00
    Flop
    • 6
    • A
    • 4
    d4y0Check
    Bubbles33Bet1600.003200.004765.00
    jft320Fold
    peter27Call1600.004800.008225.00
    d4y0Fold
    Turn
    • 7
    Bubbles33All-in4765.009565.000.00
    peter27Call4765.0014330.003460.00
    Bubbles33Show
    • A
    • K
    peter27Show
    • A
    • 5
    River
    • 4
    Bubbles33WinTwo Pairs, Aces and 4s14330.0014330.00
    Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
  • gregkdy82gregkdy82 Member Posts: 530
    peter27 said:

    The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.

    Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    d4y0Small blind100.00100.0016693.75
    Bubbles33Big blind200.00300.006565.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
    K33TSYA1Fold
    jft320Raise400.00700.0017978.75
    peter27Call400.001100.009825.00
    FUNKY88Fold
    d4y0Call300.001400.0016393.75
    Bubbles33Call200.001600.006365.00
    Flop
    • 6
    • A
    • 4
    d4y0Check
    Bubbles33Bet1600.003200.004765.00
    jft320Fold
    peter27Call1600.004800.008225.00
    d4y0Fold
    Turn
    • 7
    Bubbles33All-in4765.009565.000.00
    peter27Call4765.0014330.003460.00
    Bubbles33Show
    • A
    • K
    peter27Show
    • A
    • 5
    River
    • 4
    Bubbles33WinTwo Pairs, Aces and 4s14330.0014330.00
    Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
    Fold pre flop.

    You're welcome.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    gregkdy82 said:

    peter27 said:

    The poor form continues. Really struggling to build and maintain a stack in the early stages at the moment.

    Struggled with this hand earlier today in a turbo bounty hunter, would love to get your feedback.

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    d4y0Small blind100.00100.0016693.75
    Bubbles33Big blind200.00300.006565.00
    Your hole cards
    • A
    • 5
    K33TSYA1Fold
    jft320Raise400.00700.0017978.75
    peter27Call400.001100.009825.00
    FUNKY88Fold
    d4y0Call300.001400.0016393.75
    Bubbles33Call200.001600.006365.00
    Flop
    • 6
    • A
    • 4
    d4y0Check
    Bubbles33Bet1600.003200.004765.00
    jft320Fold
    peter27Call1600.004800.008225.00
    d4y0Fold
    Turn
    • 7
    Bubbles33All-in4765.009565.000.00
    peter27Call4765.0014330.003460.00
    Bubbles33Show
    • A
    • K
    peter27Show
    • A
    • 5
    River
    • 4
    Bubbles33WinTwo Pairs, Aces and 4s14330.0014330.00
    Looking back at it with fresh eyes, I think there's an argument to shove on the flop rather than just flatting. Really not sure what's best on this one. The extra outs of the straight draw on the turn is what convinced me to call his shove.
    Fold pre flop.

    You're welcome.
    Fold a suited ace pre-flop to a min raise from the HJ?! Surely not. :o
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    I took a break during my annual bout of tonsillitis, and came back to win a turbo bounty hunter which was nice.



    What is supposed to happen to the £9.61 on my head? I thought I was supposed to win that too, but I do not believe I was paid it.

    Q1 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £566.74 / loss of £58.92 from 83 MTT's / 7 FT's / 4 Wins
    Live: Buy-Ins: £380.00 / loss of £280.00 from 7 MTT's / 0 FT's / 0 Wins

    Q2 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1304.03 / profit of £222.26 from 188 MTT's / 19 FT's / 4 Wins

    Q3 2020:
    Online: Buy-Ins: £1153.74 / profit of £281.79 from 167 MTT's / 15 FT's / 2 Wins

    Q4 2020:
    Tournaments: 24
    Buy-Ins: £153.50
    Cashes: £122.27
    FT's: 1
    Wins: 1
  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    peter27 said:

    MattBates said:

    Why is 3x more aggressive?

    Um. I don't think I understand the question.

    The more you bet, the more pressure you're putting on the opponent. That's a part of aggression in a poker context, no?
    Using your logic, why don't you 4x then?

    If you 3x from say a 20bb stack do you think the range of hands you open with is tight or wide?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    MattBates said:

    peter27 said:

    MattBates said:

    Why is 3x more aggressive?

    Um. I don't think I understand the question.

    The more you bet, the more pressure you're putting on the opponent. That's a part of aggression in a poker context, no?
    Using your logic, why don't you 4x then?

    If you 3x from say a 20bb stack do you think the range of hands you open with is tight or wide?
    Surely it's a risk vs reward thing? The number of hands you get to fold out as you increase your pre-flop raise size will decrease on an inversely exponential basis. In other words, the benefits of 4x vs 3x are limited.

    Well I can now see why 3x'ing from a 20BB stack makes little sense. But to answer your question, tight.
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