Sally Bate of course! At last a UKIP- sorry Brexit party-candidate who seems to put the moral position before power and ego....
btw Tom fwiw..
I gave up trying to get any debate/opinion on this propaganda thread a while ago- that's an opinion
TBF Its interesting to read though.....the Anne Widdecombe resurrection is another eg of another person who won't give up on the 'fame & fortune' of trying to be in the spotlight
Sally Bate of course! At last a UKIP- sorry Brexit party-candidate who seems to put the moral position before power and ego....
btw Tom fwiw..
I gave up trying to get any debate/opinion on this propaganda thread a while ago- that's an opinion
TBF Its interesting to read though.....the Anne Widdecombe resurrection is another eg of another person who won't give up on the 'fame & fortune' of trying to be in the spotlight
Got to laugh at the viewpoint that threads such as this are " car crash " material and go around in circles due to an inability to debate .
Firstly , Brexit is divisive like no other topic at the moment and will continue to be so , long after it is delivered. You could have the best , most persuasive, eloquent debaters and still the topic would go around in circles , there is no middle ground !
Secondly , If you add to the equation, a selection of people who have no real interest in the topic and just pop up now and then to stir, that only adds to the disharmony and ultimately makes people like myself , completely shut off from debating with them .
Finally the figures speak for themselves with regards to views and replies ...just compare them to the numerous mundane posts and lack of interaction .
Diss threads like this as much as you like , but they provoke interest and reaction and that's what a forum needs.
Colourful Characters are what the Brexit Party need & Nigel's Brexit Party have them in spades........Love them or Hate them, they're fighting for Democracy.
What's not to like about that......
Local Election's voting today in my area, see how they fare with my protest vote. Got my polling cards for EU Election ............ Mm! now how will I vote in that. !
I googled how can the Brexit Party influence the EU, or Brexit. I got this -
First, nothing will change in Brussels. The EU will not harden its attitude because the UK electorate has returned Brexit-supporting MEPs. British voters have, after all, been doing that since 1999. The EU negotiates with national governments, not political parties. Nor will we especially stand out in the European parliament. Most EU electorates send a proportion of populists to Strasbourg; some send actual ****. A big win for the Brexiters would not even alter the parliament’s current make-up. The chamber is already stacked with ex-Ukip MEPs who only appear distinguishable by their boorish incompetence.
I guess one saving grace is those who get voted in will stop harping on about the EU “ Gravy Train” won’t they, or maybe they will stick to their principles and refuse to be paid whilst attending meetings and voting for the good of the UK.
I googled how can the Brexit Party influence the EU, or Brexit. I got this -
First, nothing will change in Brussels. The EU will not harden its attitude because the UK electorate has returned Brexit-supporting MEPs. British voters have, after all, been doing that since 1999. The EU negotiates with national governments, not political parties. Nor will we especially stand out in the European parliament. Most EU electorates send a proportion of populists to Strasbourg; some send actual ****. A big win for the Brexiters would not even alter the parliament’s current make-up. The chamber is already stacked with ex-Ukip MEPs who only appear distinguishable by their boorish incompetence.
I guess one saving grace is those who get voted in will stop harping on about the EU “ Gravy Train” won’t they, or maybe they will stick to their principles and refuse to be paid whilst attending meetings and voting for the good of the UK.
I haven't read any of this thread for some time.
However I was beginning to wonder a number of things, regarding the Brexit Party supporters that are posting on here, like,
Do they realise that these are European Elections?
Many Brexit supporters claim that everyone in the EU is unelected, despite the elections.
Do they realise that all the decisions regarding Brexit will be decided by MPs in Westminster, and not by MEPs in Europe?
If so what do they think the Brexit Party can do to affect the Brexit outcome?
Will the party have to change its name after Brexit?
What would be the use of a Brexit Party, after Brexit is all over?
Come to that, what is the use of a Brexit Party, that has no MPs that could affect the outcome, before Brexit is all over?
I suppose it then follows that you have to ask, what is the use of the Brexit Party, full stop?
What are they expecting any Brexit Party MEPs to accomplish?
Are they aware that the elected MEPs will not even take their seats if there is a resolution before the end of June?
Or that they will vacate their seats at the point a solution is found, hopefully by the end of October at the latest?
Will Nigel Farage attempt to become an MP for the eighth time?
Someone posted earlier about their colourful candidates, this is not how I would describe them.
Claire Fox in addition to her historic support for IRA bombings, is still in favour of our freedom to view child ****( she supported Gary Glitters rights in this respect), and Jihadi videos on the internet. She has also backed GM technology and attacked multiculturalism.
Why does Annunziata Rees-Mogg call herself that unless she wishes to leech off her family fame. She is Married to Mathew Glanville, so shouldnt she call herself Annunziata Glanville. She joined the Brexit Party after only 2 failed attempts at becoming a Conservative MP. She couldn't match Nigels 7 attempts. Clearly an opportunist with no conscience.
The same could be said for Richard Tice who left the Conservative Party after he failed in his bid to be their London Mayoral candidate.
Anne Widdecombe, way past her peak of Reality TV, most famous for her view that pregnant women in prison should be chained up while delivering babies to avoid the opportunity of escaping.
I am going to stop now as I am bored.
They seem a motley bunch to me, and not in any way colourful.
Have any readers of this thread ever attended one of the Brexit Party Rallies that are constantly advertised. If so, maybe they could post about their experience which would be interesting. If not, then it would prove to be the absolute waste of time that I think it is.
You have your view others have their take on whats happening in UK politics You think you are right others disagree. Plenty information out there regard Brexit so no need to attend rallies, I don't need to go to the Taj Mahal to appreciate it's beauty .
You have your view others have their take on whats happening in UK politics You think you are right others disagree. Plenty information out there regard Brexit so no need to attend rallies, I don't need to go to the Taj Mahal to appreciate it's beauty .
There for all to see.........
I am not disputing that other people have different views to mine. The purpose of a forum is to debate differing views.
We all think we are right, that is human nature.
The point I was making about the rallies, is that there are post, after post, after post, on this thread, just quoting the details of an upcoming rally.
The posts all just include the details, ie the date, time, venue and address.
I am arguing that there is a valid reason for doing this, if readers of this thread planned to attend. In which case it would be helpful information.
However if that is not the case, it is clearly a pointless exercise.
As you have said you don't attend any rallies, the continual posting of all the rally details, are of no use to you whatsoever.
On the Taj Mahal, I think that visiting would a very different experience, compared to just viewing a photo.
You have your view others have their take on whats happening in UK politics You think you are right others disagree. Plenty information out there regard Brexit so no need to attend rallies, I don't need to go to the Taj Mahal to appreciate it's beauty .
There for all to see.........
On the wider politics point. There seems to be some excitement amongst Brexit Party supporters posting on this thread, I was merely wondering what these supporters are expecting from the party, as that is not clear.
The Rail is about anything people choose to post. You post about Brexit why can't anyone else.
Live performances are the best "Glastonbury" but not everyone wants the hassle of going to events .... easier to sit at home and watch this does not mean you're less informed. Dobi posting Rallies here is hoping readers will be interested enough to attend them. Purpose of you're thread is to convince people to vote remain. This thread is for Brexit voters. As for expectations of the Brexit Party I expect them to win and demonstrate Democracy rules. If "May" still refuses to implement Brexit then Nigel will form opposition Party to fight next Election. We pay the Airline to fly us to Australia we don't expect the Pilot to take us to Spain because he likes it there. The EU has become Political Union where our elected members have no dominant voice and dictated to by non elected bureaucrats. If you are true Britt then get out and vote.
The Rail is about anything people choose to post. You post about Brexit why can't anyone else.
Live performances are the best "Glastonbury" but not everyone wants the hassle of going to events .... easier to sit at home and watch this does not mean you're less informed. Dobi posting Rallies here is hoping readers will be interested enough to attend them. Purpose of you're thread is to convince people to vote remain. This thread is for Brexit voters. As for expectations of the Brexit Party I expect them to win and demonstrate Democracy rules. If "May" still refuses to implement Brexit then Nigel will form opposition Party to fight next Election. We pay the Airline to fly us to Australia we don't expect the Pilot to take us to Spain because he likes it there. The EU has become Political Union where our elected members have no dominant voice and dictated to by non elected bureaucrats. If you are true Britt then get out and vote.
Hi Don. I don’t think the thread Haysie started is for Remain voters, the forum ( as Haysie stated) is for people to express their views one way or the other, to say this thread is for Brexit voters alone is doing the forum a disservice, and hindering debate.
I respect your opinion on this matter, and as a person who likes a debate, I ask questions of others ( and myself) to gain understanding. Have a pleasant evening.
"Remainers" ........ are you seriously please with Theresa May and her Treaty, the one that ties us to the EU forever without the option to ever leave, worse deal than we had before, which was pretty terrible in the first place. Very poor performance by this Government over the last three years wonder if they will pay back their wages if asked. Oops! they gave themselves a pay rise and Holiday recess.!
You could be brave and attend one of Nigels Rallies hows about this one.
Comments
Whose stance do you agree with?
The Brexit Party is holding a rally in Fylde. Join the Brexiteer fightback!
About this Event
Join us at AFC Fylde at 2:00pm on Saturday 4th May.
Date And Time
Sat, 4 May 2019
14:00 – 16:00 BST
Location
AFC Fylde Football Club
Mill Farm Sports Village
Coronation Way
Wesham
PR4 3JZ
View Map
https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/the-brexit-party-fylde-tickets-60820403464
btw Tom fwiw..
I gave up trying to get any debate/opinion on this propaganda thread a while ago- that's an opinion
TBF Its interesting to read though.....the Anne Widdecombe resurrection is another eg of another person who won't give up on the 'fame & fortune' of trying to be in the spotlight
Man of the people...ffs
notsogullible of Taunton
Firstly , Brexit is divisive like no other topic at the moment and will continue to be so , long after it is delivered.
You could have the best , most persuasive, eloquent debaters and still the topic would go around in circles , there is no middle ground !
Secondly , If you add to the equation, a selection of people who have no real interest in the topic and just pop up now and then to stir, that only adds to the disharmony and ultimately makes people like myself , completely shut off from debating with them .
Finally the figures speak for themselves with regards to views and replies ...just compare them to the numerous mundane posts and lack of interaction .
Diss threads like this as much as you like , but they provoke interest and reaction and that's what a forum needs.
What's not to like about that......
Local Election's voting today in my area, see how they fare with my protest vote. Got my polling cards for EU Election ............ Mm! now how will I vote in that. !
I got this -
First, nothing will change in Brussels. The EU will not harden its attitude because the UK electorate has returned Brexit-supporting MEPs. British voters have, after all, been doing that since 1999. The EU negotiates with national governments, not political parties. Nor will we especially stand out in the European parliament. Most EU electorates send a proportion of populists to Strasbourg; some send actual ****. A big win for the Brexiters would not even alter the parliament’s current make-up. The chamber is already stacked with ex-Ukip MEPs who only appear distinguishable by their boorish incompetence.
I guess one saving grace is those who get voted in will stop harping on about the EU “ Gravy Train” won’t they, or maybe they will stick to their principles and refuse to be paid whilst attending meetings and voting for the good of the UK.
Sir Walter Raleigh ... Sir Francis drake ..... Sir Winston Churchill ..... Sir Nigel Farage
However I was beginning to wonder a number of things, regarding the Brexit Party supporters that are posting on here, like,
Do they realise that these are European Elections?
Many Brexit supporters claim that everyone in the EU is unelected, despite the elections.
Do they realise that all the decisions regarding Brexit will be decided by MPs in Westminster, and not by MEPs in Europe?
If so what do they think the Brexit Party can do to affect the Brexit outcome?
Will the party have to change its name after Brexit?
What would be the use of a Brexit Party, after Brexit is all over?
Come to that, what is the use of a Brexit Party, that has no MPs that could affect the outcome, before Brexit is all over?
I suppose it then follows that you have to ask, what is the use of the Brexit Party, full stop?
What are they expecting any Brexit Party MEPs to accomplish?
Are they aware that the elected MEPs will not even take their seats if there is a resolution before the end of June?
Or that they will vacate their seats at the point a solution is found, hopefully by the end of October at the latest?
Will Nigel Farage attempt to become an MP for the eighth time?
Someone posted earlier about their colourful candidates, this is not how I would describe them.
Claire Fox in addition to her historic support for IRA bombings, is still in favour of our freedom to view child ****( she supported Gary Glitters rights in this respect), and Jihadi videos on the internet. She has also backed GM technology and attacked multiculturalism.
Why does Annunziata Rees-Mogg call herself that unless she wishes to leech off her family fame. She is Married to Mathew Glanville, so shouldnt she call herself Annunziata Glanville. She joined the Brexit Party after only 2 failed attempts at becoming a Conservative MP. She couldn't match Nigels 7 attempts. Clearly an opportunist with no conscience.
The same could be said for Richard Tice who left the Conservative Party after he failed in his bid to be their London Mayoral candidate.
Anne Widdecombe, way past her peak of Reality TV, most famous for her view that pregnant women in prison should be chained up while delivering babies to avoid the opportunity of escaping.
I am going to stop now as I am bored.
They seem a motley bunch to me, and not in any way colourful.
Have any readers of this thread ever attended one of the Brexit Party Rallies that are constantly advertised. If so, maybe they could post about their experience which would be interesting. If not, then it would prove to be the absolute waste of time that I think it is.
You think you are right others disagree. Plenty information out there regard Brexit so no need to attend rallies, I don't need to go to the Taj Mahal to appreciate it's beauty .
There for all to see.........
We all think we are right, that is human nature.
The point I was making about the rallies, is that there are post, after post, after post, on this thread, just quoting the details of an upcoming rally.
The posts all just include the details, ie the date, time, venue and address.
I am arguing that there is a valid reason for doing this, if readers of this thread planned to attend. In which case it would be helpful information.
However if that is not the case, it is clearly a pointless exercise.
As you have said you don't attend any rallies, the continual posting of all the rally details, are of no use to you whatsoever.
On the Taj Mahal, I think that visiting would a very different experience, compared to just viewing a photo.
Another different view.
There seems to be some excitement amongst Brexit Party supporters posting on this thread, I was merely wondering what these supporters are expecting from the party, as that is not clear.
You post about Brexit why can't anyone else.
Live performances are the best "Glastonbury" but not everyone wants the hassle of going to events .... easier to sit at home and watch this does not mean you're less informed. Dobi posting Rallies here is hoping readers will be interested enough to attend them. Purpose of you're thread is to convince people to vote remain. This thread is for Brexit voters. As for expectations of the Brexit Party I expect them to win and demonstrate Democracy rules. If "May" still refuses to implement Brexit then Nigel will form opposition Party to fight next Election. We pay the Airline to fly us to Australia we don't expect the Pilot to take us to Spain because he likes it there. The EU has become Political Union where our elected members have no dominant voice and dictated to by non elected bureaucrats. If you are true Britt then get out and vote.
I don’t think the thread Haysie started is for Remain voters, the forum ( as Haysie stated) is for people to express their views one way or the other, to say this thread is for Brexit voters alone is doing the forum a disservice, and hindering debate.
I respect your opinion on this matter, and as a person who likes a debate, I ask questions of others ( and myself) to gain understanding.
Have a pleasant evening.
Oops! they gave themselves a pay rise and Holiday recess.!
You could be brave and attend one of Nigels Rallies hows about this one.
Your most considered, and well thought out posts, seem to be those that just give details of Brexit Party Rallies