Buying a beer abroad ‘nearly 50p more expensive typically since Brexit vote’
The cost of buying a beer abroad could be around 16% or nearly 50p more expensive now than three years ago due to the weakened pound, according to analysis. Foreign exchange firm Caxton FX compiled a “Brexit beer index” by looking at the average cost of a beer now in various countries. It compared currency exchange rates now with those in June 2016, when the EU referendum was held, to show the impact of currency movements over the past three years.
So that will be 50p cheaper than buying a Beer in Cornwall, £1 cheaper than in London and at least £2 cheaper than buying one at Manchester Airport
EDIT: except for buying a Pint in Mr Brexit's WETHERSPOONS of course!
The Fool.
Wetherspoons boss rubbishes ‘amateur’ Sky News host over Brexit - ‘prices will go DOWN’ BREXITEER Tim Martin clashed with Sky News host Samatha Washington over his decision to reduce the price of pints in his pubs by 20p. The heated debate culminated with Mr Martin branding the TV presenter an "amateur" for her questions.
The Wetherspoon founder first appeared annoyed during his interview with the Sky News host when Ms Washington referred to his business decision as an "advertising campaign". Mr Martin announced on Friday that the price of a pint of beer in his pubs will be cut by an average of 20p in an attempt to show consumers the benefits of Brexit. He told the Sky News host: “To call it an advertising campaign when there is a very important economic issue in which most of the media, including yourself just now, have implied that prices would go up, is pejorative.
“And I’m not going to say what 20p a pint is going to cost us. “Overall we do okay.” Adamant to find out how much the bullish decision will cost his company, the Sky News host insisted: “But it is going to have a cost and you are effectively making a political point. “And as a plc, I’m wondering, have you had approval from your board, from your shareholders to be taking this cost hit to make this political point?”
At this point, the prominent Brexiteer lost it and accused the news presenter of making "amateur" economic observations. He blasted: “That’s a very amateur economics point. We are investing money, if you like, in trying to illustrate the fact - contrary to most of the views which are perpetrated in the media - that prices in the shops will go down if the UK eliminates tariffs upon leaving the protectionist customs union.” Mr Martin has announced beer prices will be slashed to show how leaving the customs union can reduce costs. The staunch Brexiteer said leaving the customs union on October 31 would allow the Government to end “protectionist tariffs”, which he maintained would reduce prices in pubs and supermarkets. From today, one of Wetherspoons best-sold drinks, a pint of Ruddles, will be sold for as cheaply as £1.39 a pint.
The beer brand will be sold at the cheapest price of £1.39 in 36 stores, while 160 branches will see the drink for £1.59. The majority of pubs, more than 600 of them, will sell the beer for £1.69. Where Ruddles is unavailable, Greene King IPA or Caledonian Deuchars will be included at the reduced price. It is the latest Brexit-related move by Wetherspoon, which has shown its commitment to leaving the EU by selling more English and Australian wines over European brands.
In his announcement, Tim Martin said: “At the current time customers and businesses pay tariffs on thousands of products which are imported from outside the EU. “These tariffs are collected by the UK Government and sent to Brussels. "Provided we leave the customs union on October 31, the Government can end these protectionist tariffs, which will reduce prices in supermarkets and pubs. “In order to illustrate this point, Wetherspoon has decided to reduce the price of Ruddles bitter, brewed by Greene King. “A lot of politicians have misled the public by suggesting leaving the customs union would be a ‘cliff-edge’ or ‘disaster’. “This is the reverse of the truth. Ending tariffs will reduce prices.”
Why can’t the UK and EU simply remove tariffs if there’s no deal? The UK could choose to apply zero tariffs to the EU unilaterally in order to keep barriers to imports from the EU low as before. However, the WTO’s Most Favoured Nation (MFN) rule prevents discrimination between WTO members. So, in this scenario, the UK would have to apply the same zero tariff to imports from all other WTO members, or else it would be in breach of the MFN rule. Moreover, the EU would not be able to reciprocate, unless it was happy to give imports from all other WTO members tariff free access to its market.
I think that a no deal Brexit, is similar to telling to tell your boss to stick his job up his ar5e, on a Friday. You then spend the weekend bragging to your mates about what you have done. When asked what you planned to do next, your reply would be that you intended to go back and see him on Monday to beg for your job back.
Most people would think that this would be an absolutely stupid plan.
Leaving the EU with no deal, means we would have to pass a Withdrawal Bill, which includes the same problems, before begging them for a trade deal, which would take years to negotiate.
A no deal Brexit is an act of complete stupidity, as well as a commitment to self inflict economic damage.
I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this. Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy. Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.
This one should appeal to you.
'Tonight in Sedgefield Nigel Farage won't tell people the hard truth about a no-deal Brexit' Phil Wilson is a leading supporter of a People's Vote and the Labour MP for Sedgefield
You won’t know Matthew Carr. A century ago at Fishburn Colliery aged just sixteen he was killed when a set of coal-carrying tubs caught the door he was attending. His life was one of dozens lost there over the years – crushed, smashed, or buried alive. This former colliery is just four miles from where Nigel Farage will address the Brexit Party in Sedgefield this evening.
It is also where my Dad used to work. He taught me his rock was not the coal he chipped away at. It was his mates. His life depended on them and theirs on him. And he told me about truths as hard as what filled the tubs around him, because lives were at stake. You had to be honest with each other, he would say. Hard truths were born out of friendship and dependency. It is why I believe many northerners ‘tell it like it is’ because they care. We tell people what they want to hear and what they do not want to hear if it is in their best interest. It is why I tell it like it is about Brexit. My dad would have it no other way. If a nan or grandad says, ‘I just want it done,’ I tell them straight - you are making your grandkid’s life more difficult. You are hurting their future. If a mum or dad says, ‘I just want out,’ I give them the hard truth – you are making kids in my constituency poorer. Families will go hungry. And those who dismiss experts and government reports as project fear, I tell them their hunch could create misery for thousands of vulnerable and working-class people in the North.
I tell these hard truths not because it is in my interest - I may lose my job - or because I dislike those with concerns, but because of the opposite. I love my constituents. I care for them. I have lived in Sedgefield for six decades through good times and bad. These are my people. Not Nigel Farage’s. He does not speak for us.
When Thatcher was shutting down industry in the North-East, Farage was not in Sedgefield fighting our corner. When the miners’ strikes were taking place in the mid-eighties, Nigel Farage was not donating food to keep our families going. He was a Conservative party member trading in the City of London. When we were on our knees, he was living it large with his banker mates because there was nothing here for him then. He did not need Sedgefield then. But now he does and so he will use the fears of good people to turn them against each other. He will manipulate so people do what he wants. The sign saying ‘do not swim here’ may not keep people from the sea but a picture of a shark does. Farage shows people the shark.
If thousands of immigrants queuing to get into the UK scares people, he will use it on a billboard. If Turkey joining the EU worries people, it will appear in their Facebook feed. If the EU costing our NHS £350 million a week angers people, it will appear on the side buses. Whether it is true or not.
And tonight, when he speaks in Sedgefield there will be many who clap and cheer every word of this political parasite who feeds off people’s fears.
They will clap the lie of a ‘clean break’ Brexit even though the hard truth is No Deal means no deals on anything. It will drag Brexit on for years maybe even decades. They will clap his lies about No Deal being good for Sedgefield when the hard truth is thousands of jobs will be at risk at nearby Newton Aycliffe and the cost to the North East is £7 billion a year or twice what we currently spend on schools and education.
UK investment faces most sustained slump in 17 years thanks to Brexit uncertainty
Investment by UK companies is on track to suffer its longest sustained period of decline in 17 years due to continuing Brexit uncertainty, a leading business group has warned.
I wondered why the wife's Sparkling wine from Oz was £1 cheaper than the Prosecco..... HAPPY DAYS
Tastes nicer too
150km tailbacks?
No-deal Brexit: Tens of thousands of lorries with ‘wrong paperwork’ to be turned away at ports, secret government documents reveal
Ministers have “fiddled the figures” to disguise the true level of chaos at British ports from a no-deal Brexit, it has been alleged. The government’s Operation Yellowhammer dossier – only released after a parliamentary battle – predicted a “low risk of significant sustained queues” at ports other than in Kent. But new documents have revealed this would only be the case because tens of thousands of vehicles would be turned away before they reached the coast, for not having the correct paperwork. In Liverpool, Holyhead and Portsmouth about two-thirds of vehicles would not be allowed into the port, the Department for Transport (DfT) papers, stamped “official sensitive”, show.
“One hundred per cent of non-compliant vehicles will be turned away, which means the resulting flow rate is 29 per cent at Holyhead, Heysham and Liverpool, and 32 per cent at Portsmouth,” one states. Meanwhile, at Dover, the busiest port for traffic to and from the EU, the queues could reach a peak of 8,500 vehicles, according to one of the documents seen by the FT. It calculated that, given the typical 16.5m length of an articulated lorry, the tailbacks outside Dover could stretch to about 150km.
I wondered why the wife's Sparkling wine from Oz was £1 cheaper than the Prosecco..... HAPPY DAYS
Tastes nicer too
If I had to provide concisely one good reason for not leaving the EU. It would be the following.
Most people will appreciate that many foreign manufacturers have set up in the UK, with a view to supplying the EU market. The prospect of supplying 500 million customers is surely more appealing than supplying the UK only.
Once we have left the EU, UK appeal in this respect will surely plummet.
Setting up in the EU would allow any manufacturer the benefits of tariff free, frictionless trade with EU members, in addition to the 70 plus countries that the EU currently has trade deals with, any that they do future deals with, as well as easy access to the UK.
So why would any serious manufacturer choose setting up in the UK, over an EU member country?
Most reasonable people would admit to the fact that in the long term, these conditions can only result in our major manufacturers relocating to Europe.
So as far as I can see, leaving the EU will mean that, we no longer attract large manufacturers, and sit idly by while good jobs are lost whilst our largest manufacturers relocate.
Mr Dyson the ardent Brexiteer has gone very quiet lately. He used to be singing the praises of Brexit in the media almost on a daily basis.
Perhaps hes too busy now setting up his car factory in Singapore.
Surely this alone is a good enough reason to remain?
Conclusion That’s wrong. About one in seven cars made in Germany are sold in Britain. It is true that more German cars are exported to the UK than anywhere else.
About 1 in 7 German cars are sold in the UK
Germany sells about 14% of all the passenger cars it makes domestically to the UK, a little over one in seven. (That makes up about 18% of the passenger cars it exports, a little under one in five).
You explain things in an easy to understand way(most of the time),the Mini engine post for example opened my eyes as to how complicated the whole import/export thing really would be.My point is,that your posts about queues at ports etc disrupting the country,whilst it may all be true,surely it will be the same for goods entering the country,therefore it's in the EU's interest to do all they can to prevent their goods being delayed coming into the UK or am I missing something?
You explain things in an easy to understand way(most of the time),the Mini engine post for example opened my eyes as to how complicated the whole import/export thing really would be.My point is,that your posts about queues at ports etc disrupting the country,whilst it may all be true,surely it will be the same for goods entering the country,therefore it's in the EU's interest to do all they can to prevent their goods being delayed coming into the UK or am I missing something?
Just one small aspect of this is that as members we are aligned with the EU on product standards and regulations. When we leave, our testing will not be accepted by the EU. So many products that we currently export unchecked into the EU, will require checking and testing. I previously posted an article that reported on some product testing where samples would have to be taken and sent away for testing. In this example the testing was going to take 6 days. So the container would be delayed accordingly at the port, and face a storage charge of £700 for the container. Currently 10,000 trucks per day go through Dover, destined for the EU. A small delay will cause a huge backlog. This will result in ferries being missed, and bigger delays. The article above which refers to stuff the Government is trying to hide expects 150km queues, and they are accused of disregarding the level of chaos at ports, because tens of thousands of trucks will be turned away through not having the correct paperwork. They are expecting to turn away two thirds of trucks arriving at some ports, and delays of over 2 days.
The documents includes the following scenarios: On day one, as many as 85% of trucks attempting to cross the Dover-Calais straits may not be ready for French customs, blocking flow through the ports -- with freight recovering to 50% to 70% of pre-Brexit levels in three months Medicines are “particularly vulnerable” to severe extended delays; some can’t be stockpiled, and for others it’s not practical to stockpile for “expected delays of up to six months” Supplies of some fresh foods will decrease; there will also be a reduced choice of products While the threat to the supply of clean water is “low,” it is possible that hundreds of thousands of people will experience problems Some cross-border U.K. financial services will be disrupted Protests will take place nationwide, sapping police resources Regional traffic disruption could affect fuel distribution Immediate imposition of EU tariffs will “severely disrupt” trade with Ireland, with agriculture and food the hardest-hit sectors No-deal arrangements for the Irish border will be “unsustainable” and force the U.K. back to the negotiating table in days or weeks There could be clashes between U.K. and EU fishing fleets
One paragraph was redacted for what the government said were reasons of commercial confidentiality. The Sunday Times said the section dealt with the impact on oil refineries. EU tariffs will make U.K. gasoline exports uncompetitive, and the government’s decision to set import tariffs on gasoline at 0% will likely result in two refineries closing, costing around 2,000 jobs, it said. The government expects subsequent strike action at refineries to hit fuel supplies, according to the newspaper.
Brexit border chaos will cause huge delays and cost £1bn a year, says report This article is more than 2 years old Analysis from economic consultancy Oxera says cost to UK of new customs checks and ensuing delays could amount to more than £1bn a year
I refuse to believe we will ever allow 150km tailbacks.
93.2 miles, possibly, but 150km-never
PS-perhaps people might believe Cameron more if he hadn't done naff all until he had a book to flog. The numpty.
They will be big apparently.
What about ousting Boris, politicians resorting to a bit of honesty, referendum, then a general election?
Hmmmmmm .....Doubtful No Chance Highly unlikely (we've had one that still hasn't been implemented!) Very likely.... eventually
Why doubtful? Why highly unlikely, when the opposition parties who now seem united, are all in favour of a referendum, and now have a majority?
At least you agreed with two of my answers
BoJo is at least seen to be trying to deliver the result of the 2016 Referendum, probably why the Tories are ahead in the Polls.
I like your use of the word 'seem'. The opposition may all (or maybe not all, depending on which way the wind blows) be in favour of a referendum, but I think you will find there will be a General Election before any future referendum...... and why should we take notice of a second referendum, when the first hasn't been implemented?
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Why can’t the UK and EU simply remove tariffs if there’s no deal?
The UK could choose to apply zero tariffs to the EU unilaterally in order to keep barriers to imports from the EU low as before. However, the WTO’s Most Favoured Nation (MFN) rule prevents discrimination between WTO members. So, in this scenario, the UK would have to apply the same zero tariff to imports from all other WTO members, or else it would be in breach of the MFN rule. Moreover, the EU would not be able to reciprocate, unless it was happy to give imports from all other WTO members tariff free access to its market.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/brexit/no-deal-brexit-and-wto-article-24-explained/
Tastes nicer too
Try reading more slowly.
There are tariffs on Australian wine, not Prosecco.
Everything else is because he hasn't a clue what he is talking about.
Lastly the EU don't control peoples opinions of the taste of any particularly wine, wherever it comes from.
You then spend the weekend bragging to your mates about what you have done.
When asked what you planned to do next, your reply would be that you intended to go back and see him on Monday to beg for your job back.
Most people would think that this would be an absolutely stupid plan.
Leaving the EU with no deal, means we would have to pass a Withdrawal Bill, which includes the same problems, before begging them for a trade deal, which would take years to negotiate.
A no deal Brexit is an act of complete stupidity, as well as a commitment to self inflict economic damage.
I was expecting it to end with the dealers reading a Boris advert on a chicken box, them seeing the light, and going home.
This one should appeal to you.
'Tonight in Sedgefield Nigel Farage won't tell people the hard truth about a no-deal Brexit'
Phil Wilson is a leading supporter of a People's Vote and the Labour MP for Sedgefield
You won’t know Matthew Carr. A century ago at Fishburn Colliery aged just sixteen he was killed when a set of coal-carrying tubs caught the door he was attending. His life was one of dozens lost there over the years – crushed, smashed, or buried alive.
This former colliery is just four miles from where Nigel Farage will address the Brexit Party in Sedgefield this evening.
It is also where my Dad used to work. He taught me his rock was not the coal he chipped away at. It was his mates. His life depended on them and theirs on him. And he told me about truths as hard as what filled the tubs around him, because lives were at stake. You had to be honest with each other, he would say. Hard truths were born out of friendship and dependency.
It is why I believe many northerners ‘tell it like it is’ because they care. We tell people what they want to hear and what they do not want to hear if it is in their best interest. It is why I tell it like it is about Brexit. My dad would have it no other way.
If a nan or grandad says, ‘I just want it done,’ I tell them straight - you are making your grandkid’s life more difficult. You are hurting their future. If a mum or dad says, ‘I just want out,’ I give them the hard truth – you are making kids in my constituency poorer. Families will go hungry. And those who dismiss experts and government reports as project fear, I tell them their hunch could create misery for thousands of vulnerable and working-class people in the North.
I tell these hard truths not because it is in my interest - I may lose my job - or because I dislike those with concerns, but because of the opposite. I love my constituents. I care for them. I have lived in Sedgefield for six decades through good times and bad. These are my people. Not Nigel Farage’s. He does not speak for us.
When Thatcher was shutting down industry in the North-East, Farage was not in Sedgefield fighting our corner. When the miners’ strikes were taking place in the mid-eighties, Nigel Farage was not donating food to keep our families going. He was a Conservative party member trading in the City of London. When we were on our knees, he was living it large with his banker mates because there was nothing here for him then. He did not need Sedgefield then.
But now he does and so he will use the fears of good people to turn them against each other. He will manipulate so people do what he wants. The sign saying ‘do not swim here’ may not keep people from the sea but a picture of a shark does. Farage shows people the shark.
If thousands of immigrants queuing to get into the UK scares people, he will use it on a billboard. If Turkey joining the EU worries people, it will appear in their Facebook feed. If the EU costing our NHS £350 million a week angers people, it will appear on the side buses. Whether it is true or not.
And tonight, when he speaks in Sedgefield there will be many who clap and cheer every word of this political parasite who feeds off people’s fears.
They will clap the lie of a ‘clean break’ Brexit even though the hard truth is No Deal means no deals on anything. It will drag Brexit on for years maybe even decades.
They will clap his lies about No Deal being good for Sedgefield when the hard truth is thousands of jobs will be at risk at nearby Newton Aycliffe and the cost to the North East is £7 billion a year or twice what we currently spend on schools and education.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tonight-sedgefield-nigel-farage-wont-20029261
Brexiteer ‘spits at’ children’s author for wearing pro-EU badge
Investment by UK companies is on track to suffer its longest sustained period of decline in 17 years due to continuing Brexit uncertainty, a leading business group has warned.
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/uk-investment-faces-most-sustained-134911028.html
No-deal Brexit: Tens of thousands of lorries with ‘wrong paperwork’ to be turned away at ports, secret government documents reveal
Ministers have “fiddled the figures” to disguise the true level of chaos at British ports from a no-deal Brexit, it has been alleged.
The government’s Operation Yellowhammer dossier – only released after a parliamentary battle – predicted a “low risk of significant sustained queues” at ports other than in Kent.
But new documents have revealed this would only be the case because tens of thousands of vehicles would be turned away before they reached the coast, for not having the correct paperwork.
In Liverpool, Holyhead and Portsmouth about two-thirds of vehicles would not be allowed into the port, the Department for Transport (DfT) papers, stamped “official sensitive”, show.
“One hundred per cent of non-compliant vehicles will be turned away, which means the resulting flow rate is 29 per cent at Holyhead, Heysham and Liverpool, and 32 per cent at Portsmouth,” one states.
Meanwhile, at Dover, the busiest port for traffic to and from the EU, the queues could reach a peak of 8,500 vehicles, according to one of the documents seen by the FT.
It calculated that, given the typical 16.5m length of an articulated lorry, the tailbacks outside Dover could stretch to about 150km.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexit/no-deal-brexit-tens-of-thousands-of-lorries-with-wrong-paperwork-to-be-turned-away-at-ports-secret-government-documents-reveal/ar-AAHqsGE?ocid=spartandhp
Most people will appreciate that many foreign manufacturers have set up in the UK, with a view to supplying the EU market. The prospect of supplying 500 million customers is surely more appealing than supplying the UK only.
Once we have left the EU, UK appeal in this respect will surely plummet.
Setting up in the EU would allow any manufacturer the benefits of tariff free, frictionless trade with EU members, in addition to the 70 plus countries that the EU currently has trade deals with, any that they do future deals with, as well as easy access to the UK.
So why would any serious manufacturer choose setting up in the UK, over an EU member country?
Most reasonable people would admit to the fact that in the long term, these conditions can only result in our major manufacturers relocating to Europe.
So as far as I can see, leaving the EU will mean that, we no longer attract large manufacturers, and sit idly by while good jobs are lost whilst our largest manufacturers relocate.
Mr Dyson the ardent Brexiteer has gone very quiet lately. He used to be singing the praises of Brexit in the media almost on a daily basis.
Perhaps hes too busy now setting up his car factory in Singapore.
Surely this alone is a good enough reason to remain?
We buy around 14% of German cars.
They buy 8.3% of ours.
The EU buys over 50%
Claim
Most German cars are sold in Britain.
Conclusion
That’s wrong. About one in seven cars made in Germany are sold in Britain. It is true that more German cars are exported to the UK than anywhere else.
About 1 in 7 German cars are sold in the UK
Germany sells about 14% of all the passenger cars it makes domestically to the UK, a little over one in seven. (That makes up about 18% of the passenger cars it exports, a little under one in five).
https://fullfact.org/europe/german-cars-uk/
Distribution of cars exported from the United Kingdom (UK) in 2018, by main export destinations
https://www.statista.com/statistics/298970/destination-of-cars-exported-from-the-united-kingdom/
When we leave, our testing will not be accepted by the EU.
So many products that we currently export unchecked into the EU, will require checking and testing.
I previously posted an article that reported on some product testing where samples would have to be taken and sent away for testing. In this example the testing was going to take 6 days. So the container would be delayed accordingly at the port, and face a storage charge of £700 for the container.
Currently 10,000 trucks per day go through Dover, destined for the EU. A small delay will cause a huge backlog.
This will result in ferries being missed, and bigger delays.
The article above which refers to stuff the Government is trying to hide expects 150km queues, and they are accused of disregarding the level of chaos at ports, because tens of thousands of trucks will be turned away through not having the correct paperwork.
They are expecting to turn away two thirds of trucks arriving at some ports, and delays of over 2 days.
The documents includes the following scenarios:
On day one, as many as 85% of trucks attempting to cross the Dover-Calais straits may not be ready for French customs, blocking flow through the ports -- with freight recovering to 50% to 70% of pre-Brexit levels in three months
Medicines are “particularly vulnerable” to severe extended delays; some can’t be stockpiled, and for others it’s not practical to stockpile for “expected delays of up to six months”
Supplies of some fresh foods will decrease; there will also be a reduced choice of products
While the threat to the supply of clean water is “low,” it is possible that hundreds of thousands of people will experience problems
Some cross-border U.K. financial services will be disrupted
Protests will take place nationwide, sapping police resources
Regional traffic disruption could affect fuel distribution
Immediate imposition of EU tariffs will “severely disrupt” trade with Ireland, with agriculture and food the hardest-hit sectors
No-deal arrangements for the Irish border will be “unsustainable” and force the U.K. back to the negotiating table in days or weeks
There could be clashes between U.K. and EU fishing fleets
One paragraph was redacted for what the government said were reasons of commercial confidentiality. The Sunday Times said the section dealt with the impact on oil refineries. EU tariffs will make U.K. gasoline exports uncompetitive, and the government’s decision to set import tariffs on gasoline at 0% will likely result in two refineries closing, costing around 2,000 jobs, it said.
The government expects subsequent strike action at refineries to hit fuel supplies, according to the newspaper.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-09-11/u-k-warns-of-protests-chaotic-border-scenes-in-no-deal-brexit
Brexit border chaos will cause huge delays and cost £1bn a year, says report
This article is more than 2 years old
Analysis from economic consultancy Oxera says cost to UK of new customs checks and ensuing delays could amount to more than £1bn a year
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/29/uk-border-customs-chaos-hit-hard-brexit
93.2 miles, possibly, but 150km-never
PS-perhaps people might believe Cameron more if he hadn't done naff all until he had a book to flog. The numpty.
What about ousting Boris, politicians resorting to a bit of honesty, referendum, then a general election?
Hmmmmmm .....Doubtful
No Chance
Highly unlikely
Very likely.... eventually
Why highly unlikely, when the opposition parties who now seem united, are all in favour of a referendum, and now have a majority?
BoJo is at least seen to be trying to deliver the result of the 2016 Referendum, probably why the Tories are ahead in the Polls.
I like your use of the word 'seem'. The opposition may all (or maybe not all, depending on which way the wind blows) be in favour of a referendum, but I think you will find there will be a General Election before any future referendum...... and why should we take notice of a second referendum, when the first hasn't been implemented?