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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    madprof said:

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    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump


    Would be very hard for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Britain’s Labour Party, to seek a no-confidence vote against New Prime Minister Boris Johnson, especially in light of the fact that Boris is exactly what the U.K. has been looking for, & will prove to be “a great one!” Love U.K.

    Glad someone agrees, and after all he is 'The Leader of the Western World' and seems to have done OK in the business World ;)
    What was your primary reason for voting to leave?
    Flipped a coin?
    Nope..... I wanted the UK to control our own Borders (even though it might not now include Northern Ireland), and also stop having Brussels telling us what to do. Can you imagine Donald putting up with that??

    I have a friend here in Perran who, having got his degree at Uni., really wanted to join the UK Border Force (would you believe).... sadly due to cutbacks, and the freedom of movement in Europe, there were no jobs available for him, so he ended up working on min. wage at Halfords for 5 years. Hopefully now he will be able to do the job he always wanted to

    ...... Every Cloud..... and all that.
    This has to be a level, right?

    Has to be.
    Hi Hhyfty

    it is actually true..... and yes obviously he would have moved to where ever he was posted.

    A lot of the work down here is seasonal, and based around the holiday industry. If you want a full time year round job, you generally have to start at the bottom, even as a University graduate.

    PS..... i've been too busy working two jobs Mr Hayes, and relaxing playing Poker 'til 4am...... Third job in the morning ;)
    eating chips AND putting golf balls are not 2 jobs ! :p>:)
    Everyone knows you so well.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:


    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump


    Would be very hard for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Britain’s Labour Party, to seek a no-confidence vote against New Prime Minister Boris Johnson, especially in light of the fact that Boris is exactly what the U.K. has been looking for, & will prove to be “a great one!” Love U.K.

    Glad someone agrees, and after all he is 'The Leader of the Western World' and seems to have done OK in the business World ;)
    What was your primary reason for voting to leave?
    Flipped a coin?
    Nope..... I wanted the UK to control our own Borders (even though it might not now include Northern Ireland), and also stop having Brussels telling us what to do. Can you imagine Donald putting up with that??

    I have a friend here in Perran who, having got his degree at Uni., really wanted to join the UK Border Force (would you believe).... sadly due to cutbacks, and the freedom of movement in Europe, there were no jobs available for him, so he ended up working on min. wage at Halfords for 5 years. Hopefully now he will be able to do the job he always wanted to

    ...... Every Cloud..... and all that.
    This has to be a level, right?

    Has to be.
    Hi Hhyfty

    it is actually true..... and yes obviously he would have moved to where ever he was posted.

    A lot of the work down here is seasonal, and based around the holiday industry. If you want a full time year round job, you generally have to start at the bottom, even as a University graduate.

    PS..... i've been too busy working two jobs Mr Hayes, and relaxing playing Poker 'til 4am...... Third job in the morning ;)
    Do you think that there are many brain surgeons that don't live near a hospital, working on the checkouts at Halfords?

    Do you think that someone that is highly academically qualified, that has spent 5 years working for a large organisation like Halfords, but remains on a minimum wage, could have demonstrated any talent at all?

    Do you think that the fact they are employing brain surgeons, and such highly qualified people (albeit some of whom happen to be talentless), should augur well for their future, and that all of us should be purchasing Halfords shares, before they go through the roof?

    Would you care to admit that you have been responsible for the stupidest post in regard to reasons to vote for leaving the EU, beating Ian Holloway, the previous holder of this award, by a wide margin?

    I could see myself continuing in this vein for quite some time to come, you could avoid this by answering some reasonable question, and entering into a proper debate.
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    madprof said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:


    Donald J. Trump

    @realDonaldTrump


    Would be very hard for Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of Britain’s Labour Party, to seek a no-confidence vote against New Prime Minister Boris Johnson, especially in light of the fact that Boris is exactly what the U.K. has been looking for, & will prove to be “a great one!” Love U.K.

    Glad someone agrees, and after all he is 'The Leader of the Western World' and seems to have done OK in the business World ;)
    What was your primary reason for voting to leave?
    Flipped a coin?
    Nope..... I wanted the UK to control our own Borders (even though it might not now include Northern Ireland), and also stop having Brussels telling us what to do. Can you imagine Donald putting up with that??

    I have a friend here in Perran who, having got his degree at Uni., really wanted to join the UK Border Force (would you believe).... sadly due to cutbacks, and the freedom of movement in Europe, there were no jobs available for him, so he ended up working on min. wage at Halfords for 5 years. Hopefully now he will be able to do the job he always wanted to

    ...... Every Cloud..... and all that.
    This has to be a level, right?

    Has to be.
    Hi Hhyfty

    it is actually true..... and yes obviously he would have moved to where ever he was posted.

    A lot of the work down here is seasonal, and based around the holiday industry. If you want a full time year round job, you generally have to start at the bottom, even as a University graduate.

    PS..... i've been too busy working two jobs Mr Hayes, and relaxing playing Poker 'til 4am...... Third job in the morning ;)
    SO no jobs in border control at Perranporth International airport??
    Nope..... you can smuggle your goods and immigrants in here no problem, but Newquay is a whole different ball game, especially when it becomes the Spaceport for Mr Branson. Mind you that will bring a brand new problem......

    The ALIENS are coming........ the ALIENS are coming !!!! :o:#

  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    edited August 2019
    If you did go back to the beginning.
    David Cameron only put forward the idea of a referendum to resolve problems in the Tory Party in the belief that it would never happen as he would be able to blame his Lib Dem coalition partners for putting a stop to it.
    This was screwed up when winning the 2015 election with an overall majority, came as a complete surprise.
    No Lib Dems to blame, meant he had to go through with it.
    Politicians are supposed to be clever.
    So why didn't they agree a Withdrawal Bill prior to invoking article 50.
    This would have given us 2 years to negotiate a trade deal.
    A 2 year implementation period would have increased this to 4 years to get a deal.
    The option to extend the implementation period, until a deal was reached would have meant no need for the backstop.
    Simples.


    I like all of this ...........Mr Hayes for Prime Minister :);)

    but Politicians don't seem to have long term plans it seems, maybe the nature of the job.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    edited September 2019
    Thousands protest across the UK against Boris Johnson's decision to suspend Parliament














    Crowds gathered in Bristol to share their feelings about


    Activists are protesting in Germany over the decision to prorogue Parliament


    The protesters stood in front of the Brandenburg Gates




    Leeds.






    Glasgow.


    York.








    Brighton










    Crowds gathered in Manchester, York and Newcastle in northern England, the Scottish capital Edinburgh and Belfast in Northern Ireland, with events planned in around 30 locations (pictured, protesters in London)



    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7413747/Hundreds-protesters-streets-rally-against-Boris-Johnsons-suspend-Parliament.html




    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1172194/brexit-latest-news-protests-boris-johnson-protest-parliament-suspension-no-deal-Brexit
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    If you did go back to the beginning.
    David Cameron only put forward the idea of a referendum to resolve problems in the Tory Party in the belief that it would never happen as he would be able to blame his Lib Dem coalition partners for putting a stop to it.
    This was screwed up when winning the 2015 election with an overall majority, came as a complete surprise.
    No Lib Dems to blame, meant he had to go through with it.
    Politicians are supposed to be clever.
    So why didn't they agree a Withdrawal Bill prior to invoking article 50.
    This would have given us 2 years to negotiate a trade deal.
    A 2 year implementation period would have increased this to 4 years to get a deal.
    The option to extend the implementation period, until a deal was reached would have meant no need for the backstop.
    Simples.

    I like all of this ...........Mr Hayes for Prime Minister :);)

    but Politicians don't seem to have long term plans it seems, maybe the nature of the job.


    Why do you think that leave voters avoid straightforward questions at all costs?
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,933
    edited August 2019
    Deleted as posted on wrong thread.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    lucy4 said:

    He is a 'Major' hypocrite,do as I say not as I did...Typical politician.



    Although you cant argue with it being hypocritical.

    I think there is a big difference when it comes to motive.

    Parliament exists to scrutinise the Government.

    Boris is denying it, but there is no doubt in my mind that his real purpose is to allow Parliament as little time as possible to scrutinise his actions on Brexit, before the end of October.

    The last time The House of Commons voted on no deal, they were emphatically in favour of not letting it happen.

    Boris is clearly hoping the suspension of Parliament will not allow enough time for MPs to get in the way of stopping no deal.

    However John Majors motive was merely to cover up a small Tory scandal, that was likely to affect their vote share in the election that followed.

    Brexit is far more important than a petty Tory scandal.

    I hope Boris fails, as John Major did.

    Sometimes, what goes around comes around.



    Perhaps we should give him due credit; after all, Major can speak as an authority on the subject of hypocrisy and prorogation. Sir John Major in his last days as Prime Minister secured a prorogation of parliament on Friday, 21 March 1997 in order to prevent Sir Gordon Downey from tabling a damning report on the Cash-For-Questions Scandal that implicated two Conservative MPs in having accepted bribes in exchange for tabling parliamentary questions on behalf of Harrods’ owner Mohammed Al-Fayed. That parliament was then dissolved on 8 April, and the election occurred on 1 May 1997. Major’s prorogation prevented the tabling of a damning report into Tory Sleaze, but it did nothing to halt the Conservatives’ crushing defeat and New Labour’s landslide victory under Tony Blair – still, it’s the thought that counts. In short, Major has no moral authority whatsoever on the subject of prorogation and has merely exposed his own hypocrisy. But zealotry often flows from hypocrisy and deep-rooted personal insecurities.
    On 17 March 1997, Prime Minister John Major went to the Palace and advised the Queen to call a general election.[1] He told the press outside of Number 10 Downing Street:

    “I’d like to formally confirm that I’ve seen Her Majesty the Queen this morning and sought her permission for a dissolution of parliament and general election on the 1st of May. I’m delighted to tell you that Her Majesty has consented to that. I would expect a prorogation of parliament within a few days and formal dissolution in early April. Parliament will reassemble on the 7th of May for the election of Speaker and the swearing in of members, and the Queen’s Speech will begin on the 14th of May.”[2]
    Interestingly, the British media coverage of 17 March 1997 also characterized that date as the start of a “six-week campaign”, even though the dissolution of that parliament did not happen until 8 April.[3] John Sergeant, political reporter for BBC News, narrated: “After all the speculation, at last, the Prime Minister went to the Palace and set in train the longest election campaign for 70 years.”[4] Unlike in Canada, where we no longer prorogue the session before dissolving parliament and where prime ministers can both prorogue and dissolve without warning, the British usually go through a different procedure as Major outlined above; the general timing of the prorogation, dissolution, general election, and summoning of the next parliament are known, and in the week prior to the prorogation, Parliament goes through the “wash up” (like how the British would describe cleaning dirty dishes) for a week so that it can pass perfunctory and necessary legislation and spare bills from dying on the Order Paper

    https://parliamentum.org/2019/07/12/sir-john-majors-hypocrisy-on-prorogation/
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    edited September 2019
    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
    doesn't look like a mass demonstration..... Did you go?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
    doesn't look like a mass demonstration..... Did you go?
    yes I am the one with a red hat.

  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
    doesn't look like a mass demonstration..... Did you go?
    yes I am the one with a red hat.

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    Looks like a Traffic Cone to me........ Tea Leaf !! :)
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,686
    I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this.
    >:)
    Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy.
    >:)
    Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.

    >:)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827

    I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this.
    >:)
    Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy.
    >:)
    Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.

    >:)


    This protest was clearly against Boris suspending Parliament.

    I suppose you could criticise the individual posters, and banners, that people carry in any protest.

    The PM, and many of his cabinet, specifically stated in their leadership campaigns, that this was something that they would not contemplate.

    The protest was supported by people from both sides of the argument.

    Blah blah blah.






  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    edited September 2019

    I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this.
    >:)
    Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy.
    >:)
    Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.

    >:)


    Blah blah blah.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCF9tW4uyY
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
    doesn't look like a mass demonstration..... Did you go?
    yes I am the one with a red hat.


    You should watch this, and send it to your brain surgeon mate in Halfords.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCF9tW4uyY
  • MISTY4MEMISTY4ME Member Posts: 6,317
    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    HAYSIE said:

    MISTY4ME said:

    I've seen more people at Music Festivals than were demonstrating in ALL those pictures

    And?
    doesn't look like a mass demonstration..... Did you go?
    yes I am the one with a red hat.


    You should watch this, and send it to your brain surgeon mate in Halfords.



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fCF9tW4uyY
    BLAIR BLAIR BLAIR !
  • HENDRIK62HENDRIK62 Member Posts: 3,202

    I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this.
    >:)
    Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy.
    >:)
    Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.

    >:)

    I voted remain as did the majority up here after being told staying in union was only way we were staying in europe, where is our democracy?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    HENDRIK62 said:

    I love the total hypocrisy of those demonstrators. They have banners saying defend democracy, hmmm its the attempt by remainers to subvert democracy in their own cause that has led to all this.
    >:)
    Also if you have a placard saying Reform, remain, revolt you are not exactly undertaking democracy.
    >:)
    Of course Haysie wont agree he will spout some diatribe about the real threat to democracy being the suspension of Parliament blah blah blah.

    >:)

    I voted remain as did the majority up here after being told staying in union was only way we were staying in europe, where is our democracy?
    I remember the campaign, there was no EU referendum in sight.

    The British Governments position seemed to be HAHA vote for independence and you will be kicked out of the EU, and you wont be allowed to use the £.

    You would have thought that this may have influenced many people.

    The end of the UK may be in sight.

    NI also voted in favour of remain, and probably face lots of post Brexit difficulties.
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