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The General Election.
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He claimed that Mr Corbyn was persuaded to back an election by two of his closest aides, Seumus Milne and Karie Murphy.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/labour-leadership-fing-mad-for-agreeing-to-a-general-election-084507419.html
Jo Swinson seems to really believe that the Lib Dems can further their Brexit dreams by actually winning an overall majority. An increase of over 300 seats. She is clear that she wont support either of the two main parties in a coalition.
The more down to earth commentators a predicting maybe 40-60 seats.
The SNP look set to clean up again in Scotland.
The Tories will also be affected in Scotland by Ruth Davidson packing up.
Boris not being able to leave by the end of October is a boost for the Brexit Party.
Labour are in denial over Corbyn.
A sensible view would be to question why he is the most unpopular leader of the opposition since records began.
Our system works when the two main parties get the majority of the votes.
Where there are 4 or 5 parties all getting a substantial percentage of the vote, the result seems likely to be another hung Parliament.
Although with about 6 weeks to go anything can still happen.
In a "First past the post" system (like in UK General Elections, as opposed to the much more democratic EU elections), democracy as we know it goes out of the window when you have more than 2 parties.
Where you have 2 right-wing parties (Con,Brexit) and 2 Left-Wing (Lab, LibDim) then what becomes more important is how well/badly your rival is doing. As examples:-
40% Con, 30% Lab, 20% LD, 10% Brx leads to a landslide for the Tories. But ONLY because the Left vote is more evenly split. So (for example) a resurgent Brexit Party or a collapse in LD support could lead to equally undemocratic outcomes.
Meanwhile, I have only 2 Parties that could ever win my seat-Con/Brx. Meanwhile a natural Tory can only effectively vote for other parties in most industrial Northern towns.
PS-why couldn't dead in a ditch man have completed us leaving the EU before an election. I can see the advantage for Johnson, just not for the country.
He set out a clear plan for Brexit, but amazingly having had three and a half years to consider his position, he was clearly unable to indicate on which side he would vote in his referendum.
I think he could dramatically increase his vote if he went a little further.
He would gain substantial support if he offered a referendum with a choice of a Norway plus a customs union deal or remain.
I am certain all remainers would be happy with that, as would many Brexiteers.
A Norway plus deal could probably be agreed in a phone call as it is an off the shelf deal as opposed to a made to measure one.
The fine details could be negotiated during transition.
This would also satisfy those that just want an end to Brexit, and aren't that bothered about the outcome.
I thought it was a very good speech although the "Who's side are you on?" did get a little annoying after the 10th time.
I agreed with virtually everything he said
His refusal to say which way he would vote in his own deal referendum was a minus point though.
I don't know the intricacies of the Norway deal but
I think you may have something with this point
He would gain substantial support if he offered a referendum with a choice of a Norway plus a customs union deal or remain.
I am certain all remainers would be happy with that, as would many Brexiteers.
A Norway plus deal could probably be agreed in a phone call as it is an off the shelf deal as opposed to a made to measure one.
The fine details could be negotiated during transition.
This would also satisfy those that just want an end to Brexit, and aren't that bothered about the outcome.
Anything has to be better than Johnson and his gang.
We (not me) voted to leave already. So let's leave sensibly. The 3 options would be seen for what it is-a fix to slant it towards Remain by splitting the leave vote.
Interestingly, if there is a hung parliament, there is no-one who would prop up Johnson except the Brexit Party. And I am amazed at the gall of the Press who completely ignore the fact that the traditional moderate Tories have all left or are leaving. They are no longer a broad church, just "Brexit Lite"
They don't think his deal is a real Brexit.
Getting propped up by Farage would be a step too far for any moderates the Tories have left.
They are more likely to give him a Peerage to get him out of the game.
If MPs are meant to look after the best interests of the country, you cant bin a remain option.
If the remain parties get a majority, does remaining become the will of the people?
I can see Labour improving enough to stop a Boris majority.
The bond markets are indicating that there’s something very smelly ahead in 2020.
I reckon the EU are already in recession,and with negative interest rates, have no bullets.
Greece, Italy and Portugal are trouble enough for the EU, so imo, if a country leaves the EU and does ok, then others will leave.
It could be a choice of the remainers wanting to go down with the ship.
Obviously leaving the EU would cause short/medium term disruption,but does anybody think the Euro Zone are doing great? And there could be worse to come.
I can see why Scotland would like to stay in the EU,oil, gas, beverages are their big exports.
If Scotland had a referendum and left being part of the U.K, they presumably would have to adopt the Euro, so what would the 5.5million pensioners in Scotland think their pensions could be worth? Folk don’t like uncertainty.
The landscape in Europe could look a bit different come the first quarter of 2020,after our election is already done a dusted.
January, already having the Blue Monday,will imo be a very blue,sick month.
Best book a hol, and swerve January here.
I doubt there is safety in numbers by staying in the EU.
Youth unemployment rate is over 20% in Portugal.
Let’s see what the numbers are in Europe come the first quarter, maybe the second quarter to give a fairer assessment.
The NHS always comes into play at election time, unfortunately it’s a black hole.
That’s from a reliable source that works for the NHS, and for decades the record speaks for itself. Although, if Dianne Abbott is doing the numbers, anything’s possible.
I think it’s a case of picking the best of a bad bunch when voting.
I also think to Boris, being Prime Minister is just a job, whereas Corbyn thinks it’s his destiny.
If both of them got ousted, nobody could give a toss.
All this talk of borders is a joke.
The amount of illegals in this country is astronomical. Same with drugs getting in.
There’s never been more than at this current time.
It’s well known that Vietnamese are great at growing cannabis , they’ve been doing it for years over here. The government isn’t that bothered, as if they’re here, they’ll be spending, which keeps the money moving.
These trailer deaths have opened a can of worms, so now the government will have to finally act.
If they’re not bothered about our borders,just do away with passports.
Didn’t it seem strange when Calais was in the news for a couple of years, that guys were walking up to a Lorry and just opening the door and climbing in. It’s a ring.
FWIW , I don’t think we’ll leave anytime soon.