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The General Election.

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    VespaPX said:

    Drain the swamp

    Criminal MPs: the five expelled from the Commons in the past 100 years

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/jan/11/criminal-mps-expelled-from-commons
  • chillingchilling Member Posts: 3,774
    I thought Jeffrey Archer might have been on that list.
    He got rumbled trying to become mayor though.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    chilling said:

    I thought Jeffrey Archer might have been on that list.
    He got rumbled trying to become mayor though.

    I only posted it to show that the other one is absolute bs.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    VespaPX said:

    Drain the swamp

    Who are they then?

    Who are the 84 that have been arrested for drink driving in the last year?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    edited November 2019



    The Observer claims the independent police watchdog has delayed its announcement on whether Boris Johnson should face an investigation into possible criminal misconduct in his relations with US entrepreneur Jennifer Arcuri until after the election.
    The paper reports that Westminster politicians and London assembly members believe the ruling has been "suppressed" in order to protect the PM from damaging headlines ahead of polling day.
    The Independent Office for Police Conduct has issued a statement strongly rejecting the paper's claims and insisting that the matter is still being decided.
    Meanwhile, many of Sunday's papers hone in on the Conservatives' analysis of Labour spending pledges.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50363642
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    edited November 2019



    "Scale of Labour's reckless spending revealed" is the headline in the Sunday Telegraph. It should be noted that the document, produced by the Tory party, assumes that all Labour policies passed at the party's annual conference will be included in its manifesto.
    The Telegraph quotes Chancellor Sajid Javid as saying the Tory research sets out "the numbers Labour did not want you to see".
    "Terrifying bill for nation revealed" is the lead in the Mail on Sunday, which tells its readers that Labour's plans would cost every household £43,000.
    The paper alleges that the Tory dossier - largely based on previous manifesto commitments - has been produced with the help of civil servants, prompting "furious objections" from shadow chancellor John McDonnell.

    Online, Mr McDonnell provides the lead for the Independent. In an interview, he pledges that the Labour manifesto - to be presented in the coming days - will be the party's most radical ever.
    It will, he claims, include plans to introduce a universal basic income, and drastic measures to tackle the climate crisis.
    He also denies reports that there've been strained relations between himself and Jeremy Corbyn in recent months.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50363642
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    Boris Johnson claims he's given up booze until after Brexit - picture casts doubt
    The Prime Minister's apparent 'do or dry' pledge might be going the way of a lot of his promises




    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-claims-hed-given-20843125
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    edited November 2019
    Peter Reid: ‘I told Boris Johnson he was a fat, lying tw at’




    https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/peter-reid-told-boris-johnson-130006157.html
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,773
    VespaPX said:

    Drain the swamp

    Got to be one of my favourite "fake news" items. Peddled by people who would believe you if you told them "gullible" wasn't in the dictionary.

    It has been doing the rounds for donkeys years, always dressed up as current "facts".

    Let's start with "approx 635 employees". There was. In 1983. 650 too difficult a number for "approx"?

    "Spouse abuse"? A term only relevant in America.
    "Bad cheques"? What is this-1985? And it has only ever been an offence to KNOWINGLY write one being aware you have no funds.
    "Arrested" is not only irrelevant (unlike convicted) there are no available records (except, probably, in MI6).
    By "done time" (another American phrase borrowed from the 1980s US version), I presume you mean imprisoned. It's simply not true.
    "Indirectly involved in 2 bankruptcies"? Could have worked for Toys R Us and Mothercare.
    "21 Defendants in Lawsuits". And? How is this relevant? To anything?
    "84 arrested for Drink-Driving"? Really? You believe this?
    The "£93 million in expenses". Really? when the last independent figures show expenses at a quarter of that figure, and included travel, staff etc.

    For all its faults, I love my country. And people who don't are welcome to leave.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,054
    Nigel, offering UK Freedom is not enough, got to do better. Sir

    Could try, "Please vote for me the "Generous Party" we promise you Villa South of France, free travel on Euro Star or Easy Jet, plus six weeks Holiday on Caribbean Island."

    Politicians trying to get re-elected tell Lies, break promises........it's expected.! Yeah!

    Corruption however big or small is still Corruption, same with fiddling expenses it's Stealing, telling little or big Lie's it's dishonest. Have we come to accept it's the Norm.

    Vote the Dodgy Party ! not completely dodgy just little bit. ? We, OK really, take no notice of our previous record it's Media Hype. We may not have taken notice or acted on the promises made last Election but we can assure you we will this time. Hic!
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    goldon said:

    Nigel, offering UK Freedom is not enough, got to do better. Sir

    Could try, "Please vote for me the "Generous Party" we promise you Villa South of France, free travel on Euro Star or Easy Jet, plus six weeks Holiday on Caribbean Island."

    Politicians trying to get re-elected tell Lies, break promises........it's expected.! Yeah!

    Corruption however big or small is still Corruption, same with fiddling expenses it's Stealing, telling little or big Lie's it's dishonest. Have we come to accept it's the Norm.

    Vote the Dodgy Party ! not completely dodgy just little bit. ? We, OK really, take no notice of our previous record it's Media Hype. We may not have taken notice or acted on the promises made last Election but we can assure you we will this time. Hic!

    I read your posts sometimes, and wonder if I am living on a different planet.

    Perhaps it is just me, maybe I am just too thick to understand them, and they make complete sense to everyone else.

    I think that in the first bit, you seem to be pointing to us being allowed more freedom post Brexit

    It may have escaped your attention, but the post Brexit plan is to stop freedom of movement.

    The right to live, work, study, and get treated in hospitals throughout the EU, seems to me like a lot of freedom to lose.

    So the plan seems to be for us to have less freedom rather than more.

    Other than that I don't understand any point that you are trying to make.

  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,934
    edited November 2019
    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    Nigel, offering UK Freedom is not enough, got to do better. Sir

    Could try, "Please vote for me the "Generous Party" we promise you Villa South of France, free travel on Euro Star or Easy Jet, plus six weeks Holiday on Caribbean Island."

    Politicians trying to get re-elected tell Lies, break promises........it's expected.! Yeah!

    Corruption however big or small is still Corruption, same with fiddling expenses it's Stealing, telling little or big Lie's it's dishonest. Have we come to accept it's the Norm.

    Vote the Dodgy Party ! not completely dodgy just little bit. ? We, OK really, take no notice of our previous record it's Media Hype. We may not have taken notice or acted on the promises made last Election but we can assure you we will this time. Hic!

    I read your posts sometimes, and wonder if I am living on a different planet.

    Perhaps it is just me, maybe I am just too thick to understand them, and they make complete sense to everyone else.

    I think that in the first bit, you seem to be pointing to us being allowed more freedom post Brexit

    It may have escaped your attention, but the post Brexit plan is to stop freedom of movement.

    The right to live, work, study, and get treated in hospitals throughout the EU, seems to me like a lot of freedom to lose.

    So the plan seems to be for us to have less freedom rather than more.

    Other than that I don't understand any point that you are trying to make.

    I think @goldon may be referencing all the promises that are being bandied about by all and sundry in the build up to voting day and the history of breaking those election promises.Yet they expect us all to fall for them once again this time around,just to get those people elected,then to renege on those promises again and so it goes on and on.Well that's how I read his post anyway, but I could be miles away from his actual thoughts.
  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,054
    I would be disappointed if you agree'd with anything I post.




  • goldongoldon Member Posts: 9,054
    Ty Lucy4 translation it did get lost.


  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    lucy4 said:

    HAYSIE said:

    goldon said:

    Nigel, offering UK Freedom is not enough, got to do better. Sir

    Could try, "Please vote for me the "Generous Party" we promise you Villa South of France, free travel on Euro Star or Easy Jet, plus six weeks Holiday on Caribbean Island."

    Politicians trying to get re-elected tell Lies, break promises........it's expected.! Yeah!

    Corruption however big or small is still Corruption, same with fiddling expenses it's Stealing, telling little or big Lie's it's dishonest. Have we come to accept it's the Norm.

    Vote the Dodgy Party ! not completely dodgy just little bit. ? We, OK really, take no notice of our previous record it's Media Hype. We may not have taken notice or acted on the promises made last Election but we can assure you we will this time. Hic!

    I read your posts sometimes, and wonder if I am living on a different planet.

    Perhaps it is just me, maybe I am just too thick to understand them, and they make complete sense to everyone else.

    I think that in the first bit, you seem to be pointing to us being allowed more freedom post Brexit

    It may have escaped your attention, but the post Brexit plan is to stop freedom of movement.

    The right to live, work, study, and get treated in hospitals throughout the EU, seems to me like a lot of freedom to lose.

    So the plan seems to be for us to have less freedom rather than more.

    Other than that I don't understand any point that you are trying to make.

    I think @goldon may be referencing all the promises that are being bandied about by all and sundry in the build up to voting day and the history of breaking those election promises.Yet they expect us all to fall for them once again this time around,just to get those people elected,then to renege on those promises again and so it goes on and on.Well that's how I read his post anyway, but I could be miles away from his actual thoughts.
    So what is the point about freedom?
    Free flights?
    Villa?
    6 weeks in the Caribbean?
    I understand what corruption, and stealing is.
    Who are the Dodgy Party?
    What can Nigel do about anything?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,841
    HAYSIE said:




    "Scale of Labour's reckless spending revealed" is the headline in the Sunday Telegraph. It should be noted that the document, produced by the Tory party, assumes that all Labour policies passed at the party's annual conference will be included in its manifesto.
    The Telegraph quotes Chancellor Sajid Javid as saying the Tory research sets out "the numbers Labour did not want you to see".
    "Terrifying bill for nation revealed" is the lead in the Mail on Sunday, which tells its readers that Labour's plans would cost every household £43,000.
    The paper alleges that the Tory dossier - largely based on previous manifesto commitments - has been produced with the help of civil servants, prompting "furious objections" from shadow chancellor John McDonnell.

    Online, Mr McDonnell provides the lead for the Independent. In an interview, he pledges that the Labour manifesto - to be presented in the coming days - will be the party's most radical ever.
    It will, he claims, include plans to introduce a universal basic income, and drastic measures to tackle the climate crisis.
    He also denies reports that there've been strained relations between himself and Jeremy Corbyn in recent months.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-50363642


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