I’ve stayed away from commenting too much, can’t see the point when there are such blinkered views....but I’ll share an example of this corrupt bunch of self serving......really, don’t get me started on these Toryterwats
When we received millions of £ of PPE from Turkey we were told it was useless as it didn’t meet the UK standards...what wasn’t explained was in the desperate attempt to prove the UK was better than the EU, the PPE actually met the EU standards, it just didn’t meet the newly created UK standards ( we couldn’t possibly use that inferior EU PPE could we..)
The only problem was we didn’t have these UK standards in place, we just thought we had to be better...
Have felt from the off this whole thing is just not right and the restrictions put in place were a massive overreaction. Was an advocate of having the schools stay open too as the kids were always going to be ok.
Putting a protective shield over the elderly and a targeted lockdown was the way to handle this at the start not nationwide lockdowns. You can't compare and apply the same rules to different parts of the nation either so having spiked areas in lockdown makes more sense.
Although the virus is serious I just don't think the ends will justify the means given the knock on effects. Many of the deaths have been elderly and reading the National Records of Scotland 92% of deaths have been in care homes and hospitals where Covid was a factor, not the only factor.
I feel most sorry for people who have more recently suffered job losses and the elderly on their own. It's an awful time for people in those situations especially.
To have all this going on with job losses, lockdowns, people in so much turmoil and lives destroyed outwith the virus has and never will sit right with me no matter how is it dressed up in the media.
See, there lies the problem. Folks of all ages are for and against opening up, or going back to normal. The protests around the world haven’t been over deaths, but the lockdowns.
Was watching an independent reporter earlier at the protest and they had one of the organisers on saying no main media outlets were in attendance. They don't want to know and are advised to point fingers like little school children.
The politicians have been playing into people's love for the NHS at the start and have changed this to people's grannies more recently to get people to accept more restrictions again. At least we have other sources of information now to see the other side of things for a more balanced view.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
I think that is a completely impossible conclusion to draw. What could you possibly base it on?
I will admit that I have heavily criticised the government over Covid, and Brexit, but only because they deserved it. I also criticised Labour consistently while Corbyn was the leader, and let the Lib Dems have it over Jo Swinsons claim the she was going to be our next Prime Minister, and must admit to smiling when she lost her seat.
As far as Covid is concerned I really struggle to think of anything that the government has done efficiently. I am not going to go through all my criticisms again. It should be enough to say that Boris is facing a rebellion from his own MPs, and to say that the 12 or 14 u-turns have hardly sent a clear message to the public. A u-turn obviously represents each time they have reached a decision, and then decided to do the opposite, often a matter of days later. Our world beating app has faced mounting criticism again today.
It will be interesting to see how Brexit unfolds at the beginning of next year. Looks like the oven ready deal has bit the dust. During the referendum campaign, I dont suppose that anyone thought that taking back control of our borders would mean having one in Kent, and that Lorry dtivers would need a passport to get to Dover.
Have felt from the off this whole thing is just not right and the restrictions put in place were a massive overreaction. Was an advocate of having the schools stay open too as the kids were always going to be ok.
Putting a protective shield over the elderly and a targeted lockdown was the way to handle this at the start not nationwide lockdowns. You can't compare and apply the same rules to different parts of the nation either so having spiked areas in lockdo makes more sense.
Although the virus is serious I just don't think the ends will justify the means given the knock on effects. Many of the deaths have been elderly and reading the National Records of Scotland 92% of deaths have been in care homes and hospitals where Covid was a factor, not the only factor.
I feel most sorry for people who have more recently suffered job losses and the elderly on their own. It's an awful time for people in those situations especially.
To have all this going on with job losses, lockdowns, people in so much turmoil and lives destroyed outwith the virus has and never will sit right with me no matter how is it dressed up in the media.
See, there lies the problem. Folks of all ages are for and against opening up, or going back to normal. The protests around the world haven’t been over deaths, but the lockdowns.
Was watching an independent reporter earlier at the protest and they had one of the organisers on saying no main media outlets were in attendance. They don't want to know and are advised to point fingers like little school children.
The politicians have been playing into people's love for the NHS at the start and have changed this to people's grannies more recently to get people to accept more restrictions again. At least we have other sources of information now to see the other side of things for a more balanced view.
I think that allowing Dominic Cummings, a number of Cabinet Ministers, and his own Father to break the rules without punishment, has alienated many members of the public. Encouraging the idea that it is us and them.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Labour secures a three-point lead over the Conservatives with Keir Starmer beating Boris Johnson for the first time amid anger over his handling of Covid
The survey, by Opinium, put Labour on 42 per cent, with the Tories on 39 per cent. It is the first time Labour has been ahead of the UK Government since early July 2019.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Boris Johnson abandoned plans for a second national lockdown over fears Rishi Sunak could QUIT, senior MPs claims as rift claims deepen
Chancellor Rishi Sunak warned the economic impact caused by a second national lockdown would make his job near impossible.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Boris is besieged: Johnson's enemies spread false rumours about a split from Carrie and friends mutter about his health, as the PM faces rebellions from the Chancellor, Tory MPs - and even his own children
Rumours of a split are dismissed by Boris Johnson (left) and Carrie Symonds's (second from right) friends, who blame Boris's growing legion of political enemies for spreading the claims to 'destabilise' him. It comes at a time when Tory MPs - and even his own Chancellor - are in revolt over the economic devastation caused by Covid laws, as mutterings grow louder about the state of the Prime Minister's mental, physical and financial health. Pictured inset: Aline Nassif, a former colleague of Ms Symonds, who joined her in Italy.
Government test tsar has £770,000 shares in drugs firm that sold us £13million of 'pointless' antibody screening kits
Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at the University of Oxford, holds more than £773,000 worth of shares in Roche, the pharmaceutical company that made 'pointless' antibody kits. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Matt Hancock's new coronavirus track and trace app blocks tens of thousands of users from logging their NHS test results in yet another Covid fiasco
Health Secretary Matt Hancock's new coronavirus tracing app only registers test result for people who have tested privately rather than with the National Health Service. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Labour ahead of Tories for first time since Starmer became leader, according to new poll
The poll also suggested 55 per cent of voters believe Sir Keir is ready to be prime minister, and 40 per cent believe Labour is ready to form the next government.
It is the latest poll to suggest unease among voters at Boris Johnson's handling of the coronavirus crisis.
In the early stages of the pandemic, 65 per cent of voters surveyed backed the Government's handling of Covid-19, but the latest poll suggested only 30 per cent now approve.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
Boris Johnson 'did not impose new lockdown over fears Rishi Sunak would quit'
Boris Johnson ditched plans to introduce a second lockdown as he was worried Rishi Sunak would quit his job, it has been reported.
The Chancellor reportedly said imposing new national restrictions such as a lockdown would make his job almost impossible.
Medical and scientific experts urged the Government to introduce new restrictions after a spike in coronavirus cases.
After a crucial summit, Mr Sunak and the Prime Minister reportedly had a one-to-one meeting in which the Chancellor said he "wouldn't wear it".
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
UK coronavirus LIVE: Boris Johnson under pressure over handling of crisis as more local lockdowns set to be enforced
Boris Johnson is said to be facing a growing revolt over how coronavirus rules are agreed and imposed amid signs voters are increasingly uneasy with the Prime Minister's handling of the pandemic.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
The Observer view on Boris Johnson's feeble plan for second-wave coronavirus
The risk of this is compounded by the sheer incompetence and abject lack of strategy at the heart of Johnson’s government.
he is divisively trying to shift the blame for rising infection rates to the public, particularly to young people, despite the mixed messaging over the summer that pushed people to do their bit by returning to the office and socialising in restaurants and bars.
Yet the government failed to produce a national strategy for universities, despite the warnings from Sage that they would develop into transmission hotbeds, presumably to avoid incurring any costs associated with doing things differently.
We have always acknowledged that this pandemic is an extraordinary challenge: the toughest of tests for any government. Many aspects of the science remain uncertain; epidemiological modelling remains imperfect; there remain no easy choices. Yet, time and again, the government’s incompetence, indecisiveness and apparent indifference to the hardships this crisis is imposing mean Britain is condemned to bear a greater load than is necessary.
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
I think that is a completely impo What could you possibly base it on?
I will admit that I have heavily criticised the government over Covid, and Brexit, but only because they deserved it. I also criticised Labour consistently while Corbyn was the leader, and let the Lib Dems have it over Jo Swinsons claim the she was going to be our next Prime Minister, and must admit to smiling when she lost her seat.
As far as Covid is concerned I really struggle to think of anything that the government has done efficiently. I am not going to go through all my criticisms again. It should be enough to say that Boris is facing a rebellion from his own MPs, and to say that the 12 or 14 u-turns have hardly sent a clear message to the public. A u-turn obviously represents each time they have reached a decision, and then decided to do the opposite, often a m Our world beating app has faced mounting criticism again today.
its based on that you for one do not agree with my opinion that there dammed if they do and dammed if they do nothing for instance did they do enough back in March i think shutting down flights would have helped but they did not do it .
Then when they decided to let people go on holidays but they had to quarantine for 2 weeks on return a decision that IMO was a good idea but people did not like it and the airlines threatened to take the government to court over it so they backed down . Dammed for acting to soon yet back in March Dammed for not acting soon enough, hope you get it. Football fans get told they could go back to watch games on a certain date if the infection rate continues to drop which it did not sure but believe it was around 100/200 and as you no it started rising to over 6000 a day so you think ohh another u-turn .. Dammed for stopping fans going to games but you seem to think having 40/50/60,000+ fans in a stadium is not going to be a problem and if the rate rises again ??? Dammed again for letting fans attend
The blame for track and trace app not being lets say not adequate surly lays with the developers of that app as I'm pretty sure the government are not sat in a room writing code for it ..
every one will have a opinion on every thing the government do, some will disagree as it will affect them more than others but when the boot is on other foot they will agree .
Hopefully soon a vaccine or cure will be found and people will either take it or not but then again some will be critical either way ..
what ever the government do there are going to be people who agree and disagree with it, there dammed if they do and dammed if they do not .. even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
I think that is a completely impo What could you possibl
I will admit that I have heavily criticised the government over Covid, and Brexit, but only because they deserved it. I also criticised Labour consistently while Corbyn was the leader, and let the Lib Dems have it over Jo Swinsons claim the she was going to be our next Prime Minister, and must admit to smiling when she lost her seat.
As far as Covid is concerned I really struggle to think of anything that the government has done efficiently. I am not going to go through all my criticisms again. It should be enough to say that Boris is facing a rebellion from his own MPs, and to say that the 12 or 14 u-turns have hardly sent a clear message to the public. A u-turn obviously represents each time they have reached a decision, and then decided to do the opposite, often a m Our world beating app has faced mounting criticism again today.
its based on that you for one do not agree with my opinion that there dammed if they do and dammed if they do nothing for instance did they do enough back in March i think shutting down flights would have helped but they did not do it .
Then when they decided to let people go on holidays but they had to quarantine for 2 weeks on return a decision that IMO was a good idea but people did not like it and the airlines threatened to take the government to court over it so they backed down . Dammed for acting to soon yet back in March Dammed for not acting soon enough, hope you get it. Football fans get told they could go back to watch games on a certain date if the infection rate continues to drop which it did not sure but believe it was around 100/200 and as you no it started rising to over 6000 a day so you think ohh another u-turn .. Dammed for stopping fans going to games but you seem to think having 40/50/60,000+ fans in a stadium is not going to be a problem and if the rate rises again ???
Dammed again for letting fans attend
The blame for track and trace app not being lets say not adequate surly lays with the developers of that app as I'm pretty sure the government are not sat in a room writing code for it ..
every one will have a opinion on every thing the government do, some will disagree as it will affect them more than others but when the boot is on other foot they will agree .
Hopefully soon a vaccine or cure will be found and people will either take it or not but then again some will be critical either way ..
STAY safe everyone
Boris is facing a rebellion from inside his own party. His approval rating in the latest polling, has fallen from 65% approved of their handling of covid at the outbreak of the virus, to a current 35% approval. This shows that he has lost support from his own party, and the general public, over the governments handling of the pandemic. You would therefore appear to be in the minority.
If I were to consider that the government had done a good job, I would have to completely disregard the following,
The PPE catastrophe. Locking down too late. The testing disaster. The exam fiasco. The world beating app. The care homes tragedy. Following the science, but not following the science.
They were predicting a second wave in the Autumn, back in March, so it seem preposterous that they would suggest that many thousands of football fans would be ok to attend matches. I am not surprised by this as it follows much of their communication. Like go back to work, followed by dont go back to work within a matter of days. Eat out to help out, followed by immediate restrictions placed on pubs, and restaurants.
You referred to the app. This is the second NHS contact-tracing app. They spent millions on and launched the first app, despite huge doubts expressed by many experts. The doubters were correct, and the app was binned. They then spent more millions on the second app. You just think that may have checked that it actually worked before launching it.
Amazingly they have said that they were surprised that there was increased demand for testing in September. They tried to blame the public for the shortage of tests available. This was despite the fact that schools and universities were returning, Boris was telling people to go back to work, and promising that anyone can have a test during the Summer. So now they cant cope, and anyone cant have a test.
So it seems that many of the Tory Party agree with me, and the general public are coming around to my way of thinking.
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The politicians have been playing into people's love for the NHS at the start and have changed this to people's grannies more recently to get people to accept more restrictions again. At least we have other sources of information now to see the other side of things for a more balanced view.
From the protest earlier. I am so ashamed of our country and police force sometimes. Has it really come to this?
even Labour could not of done any better in my opinion ...
What could you possibly base it on?
I will admit that I have heavily criticised the government over Covid, and Brexit, but only because they deserved it.
I also criticised Labour consistently while Corbyn was the leader, and let the Lib Dems have it over Jo Swinsons claim the she was going to be our next Prime Minister, and must admit to smiling when she lost her seat.
As far as Covid is concerned I really struggle to think of anything that the government has done efficiently.
I am not going to go through all my criticisms again.
It should be enough to say that Boris is facing a rebellion from his own MPs, and to say that the 12 or 14 u-turns have hardly sent a clear message to the public.
A u-turn obviously represents each time they have reached a decision, and then decided to do the opposite, often a matter of days later.
Our world beating app has faced mounting criticism again today.
It will be interesting to see how Brexit unfolds at the beginning of next year.
Looks like the oven ready deal has bit the dust.
During the referendum campaign, I dont suppose that anyone thought that taking back control of our borders would mean having one in Kent, and that Lorry dtivers would need a passport to get to Dover.
Encouraging the idea that it is us and them.
The survey, by Opinium, put Labour on 42 per cent, with the Tories on 39 per cent. It is
the first time Labour has been ahead of the UK Government since early July 2019.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Boris Johnson abandoned plans for a second national lockdown over fears Rishi Sunak could QUIT, senior MPs claims as rift claims deepen
Chancellor Rishi Sunak warned the economic impact caused by a second national lockdown would make his job near impossible.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Rumours of a split are dismissed by Boris Johnson (left) and Carrie Symonds's (second from right) friends, who blame Boris's growing legion of political enemies for spreading the claims to 'destabilise' him. It comes at a time when Tory MPs - and even his own Chancellor - are in revolt over the economic devastation caused by Covid laws, as mutterings grow louder about the state of the Prime Minister's mental, physical and financial health. Pictured inset: Aline Nassif, a former colleague of Ms Symonds, who joined her in Italy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8776247/Boris-Johnsons-enemies-spread-false-rumours-split-Carrie.html
Sir John Bell, regius professor of medicine at the University of Oxford, holds more than £773,000 worth of shares in Roche, the pharmaceutical company that made 'pointless' antibody kits.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Health Secretary Matt Hancock's new coronavirus tracing app only registers test result for people who have tested privately rather than with the National Health Service.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
The poll also suggested 55 per cent of voters believe Sir Keir is ready to be prime minister, and 40 per cent believe Labour is ready to form the next government.
It is the latest poll to suggest unease among voters at Boris Johnson's handling of the coronavirus crisis.
In the early stages of the pandemic, 65 per cent of voters surveyed backed the Government's handling of Covid-19, but the latest poll suggested only 30 per cent now approve.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-ahead-of-tories-for-first-time-since-starmer-became-leader-according-to-new-poll/ar-BB19sk4q?ocid=msedgntp
Boris Johnson ditched plans to introduce a second lockdown as he was worried Rishi Sunak would quit his job, it has been reported.
The Chancellor reportedly said imposing new national restrictions such as a lockdown would make his job almost impossible.
Medical and scientific experts urged the Government to introduce new restrictions after a spike in coronavirus cases.
After a crucial summit, Mr Sunak and the Prime Minister reportedly had a one-to-one meeting in which the Chancellor said he "wouldn't wear it".
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/boris-johnson-did-not-impose-new-lockdown-over-fears-rishi-sunak-would-quit/ar-BB19suJl?ocid=msedgntp
Boris Johnson is said to be facing a growing revolt over how coronavirus rules are agreed and imposed amid signs voters are increasingly uneasy with the Prime Minister's handling of the pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/uk-coronavirus-live-boris-johnson-under-pressure-over-handling-of-crisis-as-more-local-lockdowns-set-to-be-enforced/ar-BB19sZT1?ocid=msedgntp
The risk of this is compounded by the sheer incompetence and abject lack of strategy at the heart of Johnson’s government.
he is divisively trying to shift the blame for rising infection rates to the public, particularly to young people, despite the mixed messaging over the summer that pushed people to do their bit by returning to the office and socialising in restaurants and bars.
Yet the government failed to produce a national strategy for universities, despite the warnings from Sage that they would develop into transmission hotbeds, presumably to avoid incurring any costs associated with doing things differently.
We have always acknowledged that this pandemic is an extraordinary challenge: the toughest of tests for any government. Many aspects of the science remain uncertain; epidemiological modelling remains imperfect; there remain no easy choices. Yet, time and again, the government’s incompetence, indecisiveness and apparent indifference to the hardships this crisis is imposing mean Britain is condemned to bear a greater load than is necessary.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/the-observer-view-on-boris-johnson-s-feeble-plan-for-second-wave-coronavirus/ar-BB19srOU?ocid=msedgntp