Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
The NI problems clearly flow from Brexit.
Many of the Brexit problems that we are experiencing stem from the referendum itself. It is very easy to argue anything with the benefit of hindsight, but I do believe that any referendum that could result in massive change should be conditional upon a super majority. This should be the case in any independence referendum, and should have applied to Brexit. I also think that in the case of the Brexit referendum, a more specific question should have been asked. Although this would have most certainly resulted in the remain vote winning. There was only one option for those that preferred to remain, while there were a number of options for those that wished to leave. Just offering an option of leaving with, or without a deal, would have split the leave vote, and remain would have won. I think that this is relevant because some leave voters would have preferred to remain, rather than accept a bad deal, or no deal. If only the remain side had focused on the obvious practical difficulties, rather than what was described as project fear. How many more people would have voted remain in NI, had they been aware that they would become separated from the rest of the UK? How many farmers would have voted for Brexit had they been aware of the likely consequences of the new trade deals, as well as staff shortages stemming from stopping freedom of movement. How many fishermen would now vote to leave? Hauliers? You continue to bring up democracy. I respect democracy, but many people being misled is hardly an example of democracy. I am confident that the experience so far would ensure that there would be no majority for Brexit today. Nor do I think that the referendum question necessarily gave the majority an outcome that they were in favour of.
Unfortunately we cant turn the clock back, and all that is in the past.
Moving on to the protocol. These are the facts as I see them.
Leaving the EU, meant we would be a third country. Assuming we left the customs union, meant a border between the UK, and EU. The obvious place for this border, would have been between Ireland, and NI. This couldnt happen because of the Good Friday Agreement. The only other option was therefore in the Irish Sea. That left NI in the customs union/single market, and separated NI from the rest of the UK. NI has subsequently been forced to implement EU customs union rules, regulations, and checks, as well as those that apply to the UK. Is there any other country in the world that is a member of two customs unions? The sausage wars is a silly argument, as we were aware that the EU doesnt allow imports of chilled meats from third countries, before we left.
As the grace periods end, things will get worse rather than better.
Now the border is in place, how can you get rid of it? Even if Boris ripped up the whole deal, and stopped trading with the EU, WTO rules dictate a border between two different customs territories.
They get to vote on the protocol in Stormont every 4 years, or 8 years if both sides vote in favour. Although the democracy of having a vote seems pointless if the very thing that at least one side is against, seems impossible to change. They can vote against the protocol because of the border, but the border has to stay.
Any argument about Sainsburys and their sausages is a silly one.
I am not sure that any "will of the people" argument stands up to much scrutiny.
We couldnt have left the EU, without having a border between us and them. The border was always going to separate NI from the rest of the UK. Implementing two sets of rules was always going to create difficulties in NI. The sovereignty argument did not apply to NI. The more trade deals we do with other countries, will make things more difficult in NI, rather than easier. What happens if we start importing agricultural products from the US?
Boris chose this outcome. Theresa Mays backstop did not include a border. Staying in the customs union/single market avoided a border. Maintaining a close relationship with the EU would have provided less friction.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
It’s not Covid that’s damaging British trade. It’s Brexit
Brexit is beginning to take its toll. Trade with the EU is suffering and foreign investment is heading south. Neither trend is temporary and both harm the government’s stated aim of “levelling up” regions that until now have depended on overseas trade to create well-paid jobs.
It’s not clear if the red wall has noticed. Or anyone among the 17.4 million people who voted for Brexit. So far, all the in-depth polling shows there is little movement on the vexed question of EU membership.
Those who called for a people’s vote to overturn the referendum still want to be inside the union. On the other hand, Brexiters remain largely convinced that independence from EU courts and control of Britain’s borders is worth whatever short-term damage is caused by vacating our seat in Brussels.
For a while it wasn’t clear how much the pandemic was complicating the picture. Those who campaigned for Britain to quit the single market and customs union were able to hide behind broader figures that showed global trade taking a hit – and, since January, when the transition period came to an end, how the second and third waves of the virus had distorted most exporting countries’ trading patterns.
That isn’t true any more. There are just too many independent reports examining the UK’s trade figures that are reaching the same conclusion: Brexit is bad for exporters. And not just today and tomorrow, but for a very long time.
At first glance, analysis of the most recent data suggests the impact of Brexit was relatively small. In May, the UK registered a trade surplus for the first time since June 2020, and goods exports to the EU were nearly back to pre-Covid levels.
Businesses in the north-east are already nursing their wounds – a point made by the chamber of commerce last week in an open letter to Boris Johnson
But closer inspection by the consultancy Pantheon Macroeconomics found that “the damage is more apparent, and Brexit appears to be preventing the UK from benefiting fully from the global upswing in trade”. As a percentage of total EU imports, the ONS’s measure of the UK share is below its 2019 average level. “In other words, UK exporters have lost market share,” says Pantheon.
The products most sensitive to the new trade barriers, such as food and chemicals, have fared particularly badly, it says. More importantly, service-sector exports were still 18% below their pre-Covid level in May, with exports to the EU in particular dragging on the overall figures.
Businesses in the north-east are already nursing their wounds, as the local chamber of commerce pointed out last week in an open letter to Boris Johnson. A survey in May of its “internationally trading members” found 75% reported their finances being hit by Brexit-related red tape while 37.5% said their UK-EU trade volumes had suffered.
James Ramsbotham, the chamber of commerce’s chief executive, said Johnson needed to understand that Britain’s “newfound power to diverge from European standards may come at a cost” and that it would be borne most heavily by the north-east, which is “the most reliant region on European trade”.
William Bain, head of trade policy at the British Chambers of Commerce, has put together a chart of 1,400 barriers to trade with the EU that he says will make life difficult even for the most dedicated and entrepreneurial exporter.
Each EU country is allowed to impose its own rules on foreign companies in addition to those set by Brussels. There are licences to apply for, bans on buying property and applications for costly visas. These are all commonplace obstacles UK workers and businesses must overcome to work and provide services in a member state.
If these tales of struggling exporters don’t convince sceptics, there are the regular updates from consultancy EY on the level of business investment into the UK from abroad.
Some investments by foreign businesses have remained steady or grown. For instance, food manufacturing has dined on foreign money, going from 35 foreign-funded projects in 2015 to 64 in 2020, and our passion for internet shopping and deliveries means foreign-funded logistics projects have grown from 71 to 94 in that period.
However, while the UK had almost 13% of all European foreign direct investment (FDI) in manufacturing in 2015, that is now down to just over 8%, and investments in automotive and transport fell from 83 to 40 projects in the same five years to 2020. These investments once put the UK at the heart of a European factory network. No longer.
When exports account for 30% of Britain’s GDP and UK-based exporters are struggling to make headway in a world where trade is now booming, it bodes ill for the nation’s economic health over the next year and many more to come.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
The NI problems clearly flow from Brexit.
Many of the Brexit problems that we are experiencing stem from the referendum itself. It is very easy to argue anything with the benefit of hindsight, but I do believe that any referendum that could result in massive change should be conditional upon a super majority. This should be the case in any independence referendum, and should have applied to Brexit. I also think that in the case of the Brexit referendum, a more specific question should have been asked. Although this would have most certainly resulted in the remain vote winning. There was only one option for those that preferred to remain, while there were a number of options for those that wished to leave. Just offering an option of leaving with, or without a deal, would have split the leave vote, and remain would have won. I think that this is relevant because some leave voters would have preferred to remain, rather than accept a bad deal, or no deal. If only the remain side had focused on the obvious practical difficulties, rather than what was described as project fear. How many more people would have voted remain in NI, had they been aware that they would become separated from the rest of the UK? How many farmers would have voted for Brexit had they been aware of the likely consequences of the new trade deals, as well as staff shortages stemming from stopping freedom of movement. How many fishermen would now vote to leave? Hauliers? You continue to bring up democracy. I respect democracy, but many people being misled is hardly an example of democracy. I am confident that the experience so far would ensure that there would be no majority for Brexit today. Nor do I think that the referendum question necessarily gave the majority an outcome that they were in favour of.
Unfortunately we cant turn the clock back, and all that is in the past.
Moving on to the protocol. These are the facts as I see them.
Leaving the EU, meant we would be a third country. Assuming we left the customs union, meant a border between the UK, and EU. The obvious place for this border, would have been between Ireland, and NI. This couldnt happen because of the Good Friday Agreement. The only other option was therefore in the Irish Sea. That left NI in the customs union/single market, and separated NI from the rest of the UK. NI has subsequently been forced to implement EU customs union rules, regulations, and checks, as well as those that apply to the UK. Is there any other country in the world that is a member of two customs unions? The sausage wars is a silly argument, as we were aware that the EU doesnt allow imports of chilled meats from third countries, before we left.
As the grace periods end, things will get worse rather than better.
Now the border is in place, how can you get rid of it? Even if Boris ripped up the whole deal, and stopped trading with the EU, WTO rules dictate a border between two different customs territories.
They get to vote on the protocol in Stormont every 4 years, or 8 years if both sides vote in favour. Although the democracy of having a vote seems pointless if the very thing that at least one side is against, seems impossible to change. They can vote against the protocol because of the border, but the border has to stay.
Any argument about Sainsburys and their sausages is a silly one.
I am not sure that any "will of the people" argument stands up to much scrutiny.
We couldnt have left the EU, without having a border between us and them. The border was always going to separate NI from the rest of the UK. Implementing two sets of rules was always going to create difficulties in NI. The sovereignty argument did not apply to NI. The more trade deals we do with other countries, will make things more difficult in NI, rather than easier. What happens if we start importing agricultural products from the US?
Boris chose this outcome. Theresa Mays backstop did not include a border. Staying in the customs union/single market avoided a border. Maintaining a close relationship with the EU would have provided less friction.
Ireland has 2 vitally important (and biggest) markets for exports and imports. They are the USA and the UK. The EU's mantra on European "Union" seeks to prevent Ireland trading with it's biggest partners.
You may think Kate Hoey is mad, but I believe it is not in Ireland's best economic interests to be in a trading bloc that seeks to penalise Ireland's biggest customers. The deal as it stands is just as bad for Ireland as it is the UK.
The UK is eager to have/continue the special trading relationship that it has had with Ireland since before the EEC (never mind the EU) was formed. In particular, the North West of Ireland and the West of Northern Ireland are much more dependant on one another than on London, Belfast or Dublin.
If there has to be trading posts set up, that will be at the EU's insistence, and (presumably) at Ireland's cost. Because it is not our Single Market. Compare and contrast this with the dispensations given to the Canaries, French dependencies, even the UK bases on Cyprus.
When we were in the EU, and the Channel Islands, Isle of Man etc were not, the EU did not adopt the same position as in Northern Ireland now.
Hmmm. I can understand the foodbank not giving the item out as part of their standard issue for fear of being seen to make a political statement, but to refuse to accept them sends out a bad signal regarding the need for donations.
At our foodbank we have trays in which very short dated or non standard stock are placed and anybody whether foodbank customer or soup kitchen guest can help themselves freely.
Surely this would be a better option in this instance.
Brexiteer Blames Driver Shortage On Blair Government!
Fishermen have always b1tched , quotas, prices, tariffs, costs and competition. God forbid they ever have to work in a free market economy.
For decades many farmers got rich off huge subsidies farming and producing stuff for an already saturated market often getting paid to destroy it.
Pardon me if I don't shed a tear for the Haulage industry and its corrupt practices designed to squeeze owner drivers out and reduce them to minimum wage slaves. The biggest operators are basically owned by the banks anyway.
Adapt or die, survival of the fittest and all that. I've witnessed my City in less than 2 generations go from a vibrant centre of Pottery, Coal and Tyre production to a wasteland of warehousing and distribution where desperate people hump cr4ppy min wage jobs, often two at a time to make a living.
So any sympathy I feel is for the people of my own City and others like it and not for somebody whos gravy train just got derailed.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
The NI problems clearly flow from Brexit.
Many of the Brexit problems that we are experiencing stem from the referendum itself. It is very easy to argue anything with the benefit of hindsight, but I do believe that any referendum that could result in massive change should be conditional upon a super majority. This should be the case in any independence referendum, and should have applied to Brexit. I also think that in the case of the Brexit referendum, a more specific question should have been asked. Although this would have most certainly resulted in the remain vote winning. There was only one option for those that preferred to remain, while there were a number of options for those that wished to leave. Just offering an option of leaving with, or without a deal, would have split the leave vote, and remain would have won. I think that this is relevant because some leave voters would have preferred to remain, rather than accept a bad deal, or no deal. If only the remain side had focused on the obvious practical difficulties, rather than what was described as project fear. How many more people would have voted remain in NI, had they been aware that they would become separated from the rest of the UK? How many farmers would have voted for Brexit had they been aware of the likely consequences of the new trade deals, as well as staff shortages stemming from stopping freedom of movement. How many fishermen would now vote to leave? Hauliers? You continue to bring up democracy. I respect democracy, but many people being misled is hardly an example of democracy. I am confident that the experience so far would ensure that there would be no majority for Brexit today. Nor do I think that the referendum question necessarily gave the majority an outcome that they were in favour of.
Unfortunately we cant turn the clock back, and all that is in the past.
Moving on to the protocol. These are the facts as I see them.
Leaving the EU, meant we would be a third country. Assuming we left the customs union, meant a border between the UK, and EU. The obvious place for this border, would have been between Ireland, and NI. This couldnt happen because of the Good Friday Agreement. The only other option was therefore in the Irish Sea. That left NI in the customs union/single market, and separated NI from the rest of the UK. NI has subsequently been forced to implement EU customs union rules, regulations, and checks, as well as those that apply to the UK. Is there any other country in the world that is a member of two customs unions? The sausage wars is a silly argument, as we were aware that the EU doesnt allow imports of chilled meats from third countries, before we left.
As the grace periods end, things will get worse rather than better.
Now the border is in place, how can you get rid of it? Even if Boris ripped up the whole deal, and stopped trading with the EU, WTO rules dictate a border between two different customs territories.
They get to vote on the protocol in Stormont every 4 years, or 8 years if both sides vote in favour. Although the democracy of having a vote seems pointless if the very thing that at least one side is against, seems impossible to change. They can vote against the protocol because of the border, but the border has to stay.
Any argument about Sainsburys and their sausages is a silly one.
I am not sure that any "will of the people" argument stands up to much scrutiny.
We couldnt have left the EU, without having a border between us and them. The border was always going to separate NI from the rest of the UK. Implementing two sets of rules was always going to create difficulties in NI. The sovereignty argument did not apply to NI. The more trade deals we do with other countries, will make things more difficult in NI, rather than easier. What happens if we start importing agricultural products from the US?
Boris chose this outcome. Theresa Mays backstop did not include a border. Staying in the customs union/single market avoided a border. Maintaining a close relationship with the EU would have provided less friction.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
The NI problems clearly flow from Brexit.
Many of the Brexit problems that we are experiencing stem from the referendum itself. It is very easy to argue anything with the benefit of hindsight, but I do believe that any referendum that could result in massive change should be conditional upon a super majority. This should be the case in any independence referendum, and should have applied to Brexit. I also think that in the case of the Brexit referendum, a more specific question should have been asked. Although this would have most certainly resulted in the remain vote winning. There was only one option for those that preferred to remain, while there were a number of options for those that wished to leave. Just offering an option of leaving with, or without a deal, would have split the leave vote, and remain would have won. I think that this is relevant because some leave voters would have preferred to remain, rather than accept a bad deal, or no deal. If only the remain side had focused on the obvious practical difficulties, rather than what was described as project fear. How many more people would have voted remain in NI, had they been aware that they would become separated from the rest of the UK? How many farmers would have voted for Brexit had they been aware of the likely consequences of the new trade deals, as well as staff shortages stemming from stopping freedom of movement. How many fishermen would now vote to leave? Hauliers? You continue to bring up democracy. I respect democracy, but many people being misled is hardly an example of democracy. I am confident that the experience so far would ensure that there would be no majority for Brexit today. Nor do I think that the referendum question necessarily gave the majority an outcome that they were in favour of.
Unfortunately we cant turn the clock back, and all that is in the past.
Moving on to the protocol. These are the facts as I see them.
Leaving the EU, meant we would be a third country. Assuming we left the customs union, meant a border between the UK, and EU. The obvious place for this border, would have been between Ireland, and NI. This couldnt happen because of the Good Friday Agreement. The only other option was therefore in the Irish Sea. That left NI in the customs union/single market, and separated NI from the rest of the UK. NI has subsequently been forced to implement EU customs union rules, regulations, and checks, as well as those that apply to the UK. Is there any other country in the world that is a member of two customs unions? The sausage wars is a silly argument, as we were aware that the EU doesnt allow imports of chilled meats from third countries, before we left.
As the grace periods end, things will get worse rather than better.
Now the border is in place, how can you get rid of it? Even if Boris ripped up the whole deal, and stopped trading with the EU, WTO rules dictate a border between two different customs territories.
They get to vote on the protocol in Stormont every 4 years, or 8 years if both sides vote in favour. Although the democracy of having a vote seems pointless if the very thing that at least one side is against, seems impossible to change. They can vote against the protocol because of the border, but the border has to stay.
Any argument about Sainsburys and their sausages is a silly one.
I am not sure that any "will of the people" argument stands up to much scrutiny.
We couldnt have left the EU, without having a border between us and them. The border was always going to separate NI from the rest of the UK. Implementing two sets of rules was always going to create difficulties in NI. The sovereignty argument did not apply to NI. The more trade deals we do with other countries, will make things more difficult in NI, rather than easier. What happens if we start importing agricultural products from the US?
Boris chose this outcome. Theresa Mays backstop did not include a border. Staying in the customs union/single market avoided a border. Maintaining a close relationship with the EU would have provided less friction.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
Another interesting look back.
Brextremist Peter Lilley doesn't like being fact checked
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
Honda workers in Swindon to face 'reality check' after it closes
The loss of Honda in Swindon is not just bad news for the 3,000 people who work there, but will send ripples out through the local economy, with about 1,800 jobs ending at two local firms that supply the plant. As 35 years of manufacturing history comes to an end, staff have been sharing their feelings about the end of an era.
Prof Graves is convinced Brexit played a crucial part.
He said: "The Swindon factory was world-class but because we chose to pull out of Europe, which was the most important market to Honda, they chose to stick with America and Japan.
"Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back."
The only thing driving the "average" price up is the rip off £1.39 -£1.45 per litre charged by motorway and other self styled service stations.
Keep it real, better out.
Petrol prices rise for NINTH straight month as 'relentless' pump inflation pushes unleaded to an eight-year high with a tank of fuel £11.60 pricier than November
Petrol rose another 3.4p-a-litre in July while diesel was up 2.7p per litre, says the latest RAC Fuel Watch report published on Wednesday.
C'mon buddy, you're beginning to sound like a parent of a problem child who never sees the fault with their own child but always blames everybody else kids for the trouble.
The EU has scuppered more than one deal that the British Government helped to broker, Corus steel being perhaps the most high profile but also there are examples in the aerospace, mining, transport and maritime sectors.
You know they're there if you look for them, also they have interfered with our judiciary , food production and manufacturing often to the detriment of the original. An example would be in steel fabrication where the British Standards exceeded those of the European ones, the same was true of PPE such as crash helmets, harnesses, ropes, slings, chains. All now manufactured to a lesser standard.
I can speak of these things with confidence as the Occupational Health and Safety Field is where I'm qualified both academically and practically. Also more dangerous now are lifting platforms, temporary seating areas, scaffolding, catch alls, respirators used for entry into confined spaces (can't comment on those used by the fire service because they come under different standards.
These are all more dangerous because legislation from Europe was introduced and adopted, probably to standardise things across the bloc.
Problem is the EU standards are lower than our existing ones.
The EU leaders are primarily unelected, yes we can elect our MEPs but then the accountability stops as they all break into their little gangs and the great carve up begins. Who do I want as the overall authority over me?, well I can tell you this it isn't a German, Frenchman, Belgian, Swiss, Dutch, Italian, Spaniard, Irishman, etc etc. Not because I believe that they couldn't do a decent job, but I don't trust them to do a decent job for me over the needs of their own countrymen.
In the same way I would be livid if I saw a British Euro Leader doing a great job for the people of Portugal whilst the people of Britain were missing out.
I wasn't alluding to the U.K. entry in Eurovision I was drawing attention to the way that certain Nations have historically allowed cultural, financial and political influences to direct their voting patterns and that is the whole corruption of the EU there.
If Spain, France and Portugal for example align to give each other a high score and then blank say Albania or Ireland or The former Soviet Countries carve it up between themselves. Surely it's not beyond the bounds of a competent thinker to realise the same basic forces will prevail when it comes to jobs, finances, contracts and the general wellbeing of the Country they live in and not to benefit some other anonymous people.
Covid19 Vaccine procurement is THE prime example.
I actually thought that the Common Market circa 1973 was a good idea. The monster of inefficient, corrupt, bureaucratic self serving it developed into was not.
Have a great day.
Mark
Boris Johnson’s £75m ‘Brexit jet’ provided by the same company running red list quarantine hotels
At the risk of being labelled shortsighted, I like many others are still waiting for the effects of brexit to impact my everyday life.
My trips to the offy, the kebab shop and the chippy cost no more. The fuel my car uses is actually cheaper at £1.18, clothes and supermarket costs haven't increased and it would appear that the banks have not collapsed taking the money with them.
So for me and presumably millions like me the only effects of brexit are...... there are no effects.
In fact, whisper it quietly, it would appear the effects on the other side of The English Channel are causing consternation and alarm.
Ironic that the guy narrating either can't speak English very well or can't read English very well.
If he is British I suggest he spends less time taking the p1ss out of people when quite clearly he's lacking skills in key areas and concentrates on learning how to communicate.
If he isn't then I suggest he f**** off and minds his own business.
And finally, everybody knows that Mr. Weatherspoons is a complete nob. The way he behaved during lockdown proves that.
Also there are plenty of people, usually students, who are willing to work at his establishments. One of my younger Church collegues is a manager at a Weatherspoons and says its the inflexability and rigidity of the shift systems used by the company that make it almost impossible to work.
Calling for this Visa thing is obviously his attempt to divert attention away from his own shortcomings as an employer as well as exposing him to be a total tool.
In fact with people like this spearheading the leave campaign its a miracle we ever won.
Let's examine 1 of the points in that article. The 1 relating to Sainsburys.
Sainsburys has 13 stores in Northern Ireland. Due to the so-called "integrity of the Single Market" adopted by the Masterrace, Sainsburys is not allowed to sell any of its goods in Northern Ireland unless it can prove that stuff is not being sold across the border which may have been produced in Great Britain. Consequently, it is having to source most of its product in NI from a rival supplier.
How many stores does Sainsburys have in the Republic of Ireland? None. The only "export" will be people nipping over the border to shop in NI Sainsburys. Which they are free to do in Northern Ireland-the UK does not restrict purchases. We do not wish to penalise the people of Ireland-unlike, of course, the EU.
The Good Friday Agreement was all about freedom. Freedom to identify as being British, or supporting an All-Ireland agenda. Living in far greater harmony than previously-due to considerable concessions made by both the UK and Ireland.
Compare and contrast with the EU. Unwilling to allow 1 of its members freely to trade with its only neighbour. Not allowing both sides of the border to trade freely, regardless of the fact that the vast majority of these goods will never leave the island of Ireland. How difficult would it be to have different rules for items exported outside of the island of Ireland rather than remaining there? The EU has managed to do that elsewhere.
I dislike the UK government. It sells us short, and tries to con us. But for their own ends, and greed. Better that than the sort of dogma that belongs in a George Orwell book.
Incredible?
Tory MP Steve Baker who called himself ‘hard man of Brexit’ is now calling Brexit a ‘fiasco’
David Schneider @davidschneider Dominic Cummings: “Anyone who’s sure Brexit is a good idea has got a screw loose”
Steve Baker: “Brexit is a fiasco”
These guys must be furious at the people who were behind the Leave campaign.
Oliver Pierce @OliverP73030815 @SteveBakerHW who unironically calls himself 'Brexit hard man' seems to have gone entirely flaccid as the results of the Brexit he campaigned for have come to bite, calling it a 'political fiasco'. It would be funny if it weren't so staggeringly sad
Matthew Corke #FE @the_corke · 11h No we don't want a political fiasco like Brexit that was handled by ministers such as... *checks notes* Steve Baker
Sue Perkins 💙 @sueperkins · 18h Steve, I bring terrible news. It’s your Brexit. It’s your ‘fiasco’. You were at the epicentre of the policy-making elite who pushed it through, without scrutiny, in the harshest terms possible. As for poorer and colder, you have consistently voted against welfare increases…
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This is quite interesting now.
Do you think their opinions might have changed, or would they carry on lying?
Brexit is beginning to take its toll. Trade with the EU is suffering and foreign investment is heading south. Neither trend is temporary and both harm the government’s stated aim of “levelling up” regions that until now have depended on overseas trade to create well-paid jobs.
It’s not clear if the red wall has noticed. Or anyone among the 17.4 million people who voted for Brexit. So far, all the in-depth polling shows there is little movement on the vexed question of EU membership.
Those who called for a people’s vote to overturn the referendum still want to be inside the union. On the other hand, Brexiters remain largely convinced that independence from EU courts and control of Britain’s borders is worth whatever short-term damage is caused by vacating our seat in Brussels.
For a while it wasn’t clear how much the pandemic was complicating the picture. Those who campaigned for Britain to quit the single market and customs union were able to hide behind broader figures that showed global trade taking a hit – and, since January, when the transition period came to an end, how the second and third waves of the virus had distorted most exporting countries’ trading patterns.
That isn’t true any more. There are just too many independent reports examining the UK’s trade figures that are reaching the same conclusion: Brexit is bad for exporters. And not just today and tomorrow, but for a very long time.
At first glance, analysis of the most recent data suggests the impact of Brexit was relatively small. In May, the UK registered a trade surplus for the first time since June 2020, and goods exports to the EU were nearly back to pre-Covid levels.
Businesses in the north-east are already nursing their wounds – a point made by the chamber of commerce last week in an open letter to Boris Johnson
But closer inspection by the consultancy Pantheon Macroeconomics found that “the damage is more apparent, and Brexit appears to be preventing the UK from benefiting fully from the global upswing in trade”. As a percentage of total EU imports, the ONS’s measure of the UK share is below its 2019 average level. “In other words, UK exporters have lost market share,” says Pantheon.
The products most sensitive to the new trade barriers, such as food and chemicals, have fared particularly badly, it says. More importantly, service-sector exports were still 18% below their pre-Covid level in May, with exports to the EU in particular dragging on the overall figures.
Businesses in the north-east are already nursing their wounds, as the local chamber of commerce pointed out last week in an open letter to Boris Johnson. A survey in May of its “internationally trading members” found 75% reported their finances being hit by Brexit-related red tape while 37.5% said their UK-EU trade volumes had suffered.
James Ramsbotham, the chamber of commerce’s chief executive, said Johnson needed to understand that Britain’s “newfound power to diverge from European standards may come at a cost” and that it would be borne most heavily by the north-east, which is “the most reliant region on European trade”.
William Bain, head of trade policy at the British Chambers of Commerce, has put together a chart of 1,400 barriers to trade with the EU that he says will make life difficult even for the most dedicated and entrepreneurial exporter.
Each EU country is allowed to impose its own rules on foreign companies in addition to those set by Brussels. There are licences to apply for, bans on buying property and applications for costly visas. These are all commonplace obstacles UK workers and businesses must overcome to work and provide services in a member state.
If these tales of struggling exporters don’t convince sceptics, there are the regular updates from consultancy EY on the level of business investment into the UK from abroad.
Some investments by foreign businesses have remained steady or grown. For instance, food manufacturing has dined on foreign money, going from 35 foreign-funded projects in 2015 to 64 in 2020, and our passion for internet shopping and deliveries means foreign-funded logistics projects have grown from 71 to 94 in that period.
However, while the UK had almost 13% of all European foreign direct investment (FDI) in manufacturing in 2015, that is now down to just over 8%, and investments in automotive and transport fell from 83 to 40 projects in the same five years to 2020. These investments once put the UK at the heart of a European factory network. No longer.
When exports account for 30% of Britain’s GDP and UK-based exporters are struggling to make headway in a world where trade is now booming, it bodes ill for the nation’s economic health over the next year and many more to come.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/it-s-not-covid-that-s-damaging-british-trade-it-s-brexit/ar-AAMMWq8?ocid=msedgntp
Angry Anti-Brexit Call To Radio Show - "We Got Nothing From Brexit!"
Definitely a crackpot.
Brextremist Peter Lilley doesn't like being fact checked
The loss of Honda in Swindon is not just bad news for the 3,000 people who work there, but will send ripples out through the local economy, with about 1,800 jobs ending at two local firms that supply the plant. As 35 years of manufacturing history comes to an end, staff have been sharing their feelings about the end of an era.
Prof Graves is convinced Brexit played a crucial part.
He said: "The Swindon factory was world-class but because we chose to pull out of Europe, which was the most important market to Honda, they chose to stick with America and Japan.
"Brexit was the straw that broke the camel's back."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-57987601
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/cars/news/readers-letters-fishing-industry-is-a-casualty-of-brexit/ar-AAMQMjN?ocid=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/irish-manufacturing-near-record-high-supply-shortages-bite-pmi/ar-AAMRzf4?ocid=msedgntp
Petrol rose another 3.4p-a-litre in July while diesel was up 2.7p per litre, says the latest RAC Fuel Watch report published on Wednesday.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9856149/Petrol-prices-rise-NINTH-month-row-relentless-increase-pumps.html
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/boris-johnson-s-75m-brexit-jet-provided-by-the-same-company-running-red-list-quarantine-hotels/ar-AAMUUlH?ocid=msedgntp
Peak Brexit.
Tory MP Steve Baker who called himself ‘hard man of Brexit’ is now calling Brexit a ‘fiasco’
David Schneider
@davidschneider
Dominic Cummings:
“Anyone who’s sure Brexit is a good idea has got a screw loose”
Steve Baker:
“Brexit is a fiasco”
These guys must be furious at the people who were behind the Leave campaign.
Oliver Pierce
@OliverP73030815
@SteveBakerHW
who unironically calls himself 'Brexit hard man' seems to have gone entirely flaccid as the results of the Brexit he campaigned for have come to bite, calling it a 'political fiasco'. It would be funny if it weren't so staggeringly sad
Matthew Corke #FE
@the_corke
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11h
No we don't want a political fiasco like Brexit that was handled by ministers such as... *checks notes* Steve Baker
Sue Perkins 💙
@sueperkins
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18h
Steve, I bring terrible news. It’s your Brexit. It’s your ‘fiasco’. You were at the epicentre of the policy-making elite who pushed it through, without scrutiny, in the harshest terms possible.
As for poorer and colder, you have consistently voted against welfare increases…
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/tory-mp-steve-baker-who-called-himself-hard-man-of-brexit-is-now-calling-brexit-a-fiasco/ar-AAMXQ58?ocid=msedgntp