There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Northern Ireland Protocol: Is Truss right about public opinion?
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Northern Ireland Protocol: What did Boris Johnson say?
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Brexit blunder: Boris Johnson ‘dug a hole and jumped in’ over Northern Ireland trade pact, says Lord Hague
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Tory candidate in Wakefield by-election said Brexit ‘built on lies’ and regretted voting for it
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Scrapping Northern Ireland protocol will trigger wave of red tape, warn farmers
Plans to rip up the Northern Ireland Protocol risks triggering a wave of red tape and costing the region's unfettered access to the EU’s Single Market, farmers and manufacturers have warned.
Stephen Kelly, chief executive of Manufacturing NI, the trade body, said it would “add significantly to the burden on businesses” in both Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
He said: “When you get into the area of dual regulatory regime we could see at best a chilling and likely a complete exclusion from markets leaving NI in a worse position than GB.”
He said: “As a direct result we would have lost the unfettered access to Europe and the option of having the best of both worlds.
“It is hard to see that goods in free circulation traded multiple times between businesses could be prevented from crossing the border if there's a financial incentive to do so.”
An EU official said a dual regulatory regime would be “completely unworkable” and pose “significant risk” to the Single Market.
“It would create confusion for consumers, local producers, and importers. The administrative burden would be intolerable,” the official said.
Northern Ireland’s dairy sector has annual trade with Britain worth £400m a year and £600m for Ireland and the rest of the EU. Milk typically crosses the Irish border into EU territory before being sold.
Mr Johnston said: “About a third of our raw milk, maybe 800m litres a year, moves into the Republic of Ireland for processing.
“The protocol is enabling those trade flows to continue. It is not perfect but we don’t want any damage to what we have at the moment because it is working.”
Would that be the bunch of people who voted and campaigned to end loads of EU subsidies, and then moaned because the UK wouldn't give them the same subsidies?
It will be fishermen next.
A hint to that EU official. We already have a dual regulatory regime. The Protocol. Which you believe is completely workable. But, of course, any other sort of dual regulatory regime is automatically unworkable?
3 sets of people who make the DUP look like eternal optimists
Would that be the bunch of people who voted and campaigned to end loads of EU subsidies, and then moaned because the UK wouldn't give them the same subsidies?
It will be fishermen next.
A hint to that EU official. We already have a dual regulatory regime. The Protocol. Which you believe is completely workable. But, of course, any other sort of dual regulatory regime is automatically unworkable?
3 sets of people who make the DUP look like eternal optimists
I think that the whole point is that the Boris actions are likely to make things worse rather than better. The NI economy has outperformed the rest of the UK. So maybe the best of both worlds pitch was true. I still find it strange that a government that came up with this pitch, had no interest in applying it to the whole of the UK. The protocol clearly needs some further negotiation. Yet Liz Truss has not engaged with the EU in a meaningful way since February. She lies and manipulates stats to suit her own ends. 78% of MLAs dont want to get rid of the protocol. There is a clear majority that are in favour of the protocol, although many of them would like to see some adjustments. How can you maintain that the EU wont negotiate, when they offered to reduce customs checks by 80%, and resolved the medicines issue, at the drop of a hat.
I think it is just a Boris underhanded "kick the can down the road" plan. He clearly hoped that the promise of legislation would get the DUP back to work. Knowing full well the legislation is likely to take around 12 months to go through. He probably planned to deal with the fact that the legislation will not satisfy the DUP, at some point in the future. The DUP seemed to have learnt from their past mistakes, and havent fallen for it.
The result of the legislation is likely to be, The loss of at least some of the "best of both worlds" position that NI currently enjoys. A little less friction, and fewer customs checks than currently exist. Legal action from the EU. A border in the Irish Sea, and some customs checks.
The real problem is the difficulty in having an honest conversation with Boris Johnson. I am certain that he will have pitched the DUP that the legislation will solve all their problems. They havent fallen for it. The DUP problem relates to identity. They dont want a border or customs checks. Yet both will still be in place when the legislation goes through, that is assuming it does go through.
Boris has an impossible task of keeping the Tory factions, the DUP, the EU, and Stormont happy. His lies are coming back to bite him in the ar5e.
The lies were caused by that being the only way forward acceptable to Parliament at the time. Teresa May tried the more honest approach-it didn't work. Honesty was not acceptable as the "best" policy.
78% of MLAs do not support the Protocol. The majority of those purely see it as a means to an end. Namely NI leaving the UK.
It is all very well saying that, in an ideal world, the whole of the UK should be in some form of single market. In an ideal world, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, we don't live in that World. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to work towards. But political suicide for this Government. And also, so it would seem, the Opposition. Because there is a deafening silence there.
It is the British people who have placed Boris in an impossible position. More than his (undoubted) lies. But never underestimate the EU/Ireland's politicians to lie just as much.
The lies were caused by that being the only way forward acceptable to Parliament at the time. Teresa May tried the more honest approach-it didn't work. Honesty was not acceptable as the "best" policy.
That says a lot about our democracy? There will be no Irish Sea border, no customs checks, no extra documentation, etc. etc.
78% of MLAs do not support the Protocol. The majority of those purely see it as a means to an end. Namely NI leaving the UK.
No Liz Truss said 78% were against. The majority are in favour. Although not many would say it was perfect. A majority of MLAs are against the proposed legislation. What about the best of both worlds? Isnt the fact that the NI economy is outperforming the rest of the UK, a good reason?
It is all very well saying that, in an ideal world, the whole of the UK should be in some form of single market. In an ideal world, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, we don't live in that World. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to work towards. But political suicide for this Government. And also, so it would seem, the Opposition. Because there is a deafening silence there.
It is the British people who have placed Boris in an impossible position. More than his (undoubted) lies. But never underestimate the EU/Ireland's politicians to lie just as much.
Boris is a world class liar. The Tory Party chose the Brexit that we ended up with. The referendum merely confirmed that a small majority wished to leave. The Tory Party chose the manner in which we left. The factions in the Tory Party may have put Boris in an impossible position.
Liz Truss says decision to ditch parts of EU Brexit deal is ‘reasonable and practical’ – live EU, legal experts and some Conservative MPs warn that Northern Ireland protocol bill is illegal under international law
UK risks EU trade war as NI protocol bill is published PM claims NI protocol bill makes ‘relatively trivial set of adjustments’ Summary and analysis of Johnson’s LBC interview 52 out of 90 MLAs reject NI protocol bill ‘in strongest possible terms’ UK decision to ‘renege’ on treaty ‘very regrettable’, says Irish PM Is NI protocol bill just ‘relatively trivial set of adjustments’?
The lies were caused by that being the only way forward acceptable to Parliament at the time. Teresa May tried the more honest approach-it didn't work. Honesty was not acceptable as the "best" policy.
That says a lot about our democracy? There will be no Irish Sea border, no customs checks, no extra documentation, etc. etc.
78% of MLAs do not support the Protocol. The majority of those purely see it as a means to an end. Namely NI leaving the UK.
No Liz Truss said 78% were against. The majority are in favour. Although not many would say it was perfect. A majority of MLAs are against the proposed legislation. What about the best of both worlds? Isnt the fact that the NI economy is outperforming the rest of the UK, a good reason?
It is all very well saying that, in an ideal world, the whole of the UK should be in some form of single market. In an ideal world, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, we don't live in that World. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to work towards. But political suicide for this Government. And also, so it would seem, the Opposition. Because there is a deafening silence there.
It is the British people who have placed Boris in an impossible position. More than his (undoubted) lies. But never underestimate the EU/Ireland's politicians to lie just as much.
Boris is a world class liar. The Tory Party chose the Brexit that we ended up with. The referendum merely confirmed that a small majority wished to leave. The Tory Party chose the manner in which we left. The factions in the Tory Party may have put Boris in an impossible position.
Liz Truss says decision to ditch parts of EU Brexit deal is ‘reasonable and practical’ – live EU, legal experts and some Conservative MPs warn that Northern Ireland protocol bill is illegal under international law
UK risks EU trade war as NI protocol bill is published PM claims NI protocol bill makes ‘relatively trivial set of adjustments’ Summary and analysis of Johnson’s LBC interview 52 out of 90 MLAs reject NI protocol bill ‘in strongest possible terms’ UK decision to ‘renege’ on treaty ‘very regrettable’, says Irish PM Is NI protocol bill just ‘relatively trivial set of adjustments’?
The lies were caused by that being the only way forward acceptable to Parliament at the time. Teresa May tried the more honest approach-it didn't work. Honesty was not acceptable as the "best" policy.
78% of MLAs do not support the Protocol. The majority of those purely see it as a means to an end. Namely NI leaving the UK.
It is all very well saying that, in an ideal world, the whole of the UK should be in some form of single market. In an ideal world, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, we don't live in that World. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to work towards. But political suicide for this Government. And also, so it would seem, the Opposition. Because there is a deafening silence there.
It is the British people who have placed Boris in an impossible position. More than his (undoubted) lies. But never underestimate the EU/Ireland's politicians to lie just as much.
The Northern Ireland Protocol Bill is one of the most extraordinary pieces of legislation I have ever seen
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Northern Ireland at risk from Britain’s ‘unsafe goods’, says EU
He said the EU had a problem with “all of” the proposals Britain has put on the table and that they were “not serious”, adding it “cannot accept the total elimination of checks”.
But he insisted the bloc’s own plans for a fix would drastically slash red tape for firms, with only a “couple of dozen” food trucks needing to be physically checked per day.
His remarks came as peers urged ministers to impose stricter border checks on all animal products arriving from the bloc over safety fears.
Lord Trees, a professor of veterinary parasitology, warned there is “a major risk” African Swine Fever will spread to British pig farms from the continent.
Responding during a debate Lord Benyon, the rural affairs minister, said the Government has hired 180 extra inspectors to tackle "the highest risk imports".
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Word on the street in Italy is that Brexit Britain’s wheels are coming off
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Watch this ‘and tell me you don’t think PM & Attorney General should both be thrown from office immediately’
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Northern Ireland Protocol: TUV Jim Allister warns DUP against making ‘a mistake’
There is some truth in what Lord Frost says about the dangers to the Good Friday Agreement as things currently stand.
But the problems leading up to the Protocol were:-
1. There was a political imperative for the Cons to "get Brexit done"-at pretty much any cost. Which was always going to cause weakness in our negotiating stance
2. We had "negotiators" who were either lazy (eg Davis) or clueless (eg Frost)
The Protocol is just a polished tu rd.
Brexit ‘largely to blame’ for £31bn loss to UK economy, study finds
The Centre is not exactly unbiased. Here is how it describes itself, on its own website:-
"The Centre for European Reform is a think-tank devoted to making the European Union work better and strengthening its role in the world. The CER is pro-European but not uncritical. We regard European integration as largely beneficial but recognise that in many respects the Union does not work well. We also think that the EU should take on more responsibilities globally, on issues ranging from climate change to security. The CER aims to promote an open, outward-looking and effective European Union."
So-it states that it believes the EU does not work perfectly. And gives as an example that the EU should do more (and therefore individual members less) on climate change and security.
So-this think tank just believes the pandemic is largely irrelevant? Really?
What next? Ireland should jointly govern Northern Ireland?
No. Sinn Fein have already proposed that.
This sort of stuff is no different to Right Wing people believing everything Breitbart says. Just people shoehorning stuff to fit their narrative.
A massive amount of sh1t will be hitting the fan tomorrow in regard to the protocol.
I hope not. But I fear you are right. From all sides. Including the UK.
Government’s top lawyer ‘could change her advice for political reasons’, senior Tory warns after major rows
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/brexit-blunder-boris-johnson-dug-a-hole-and-jumped-in-over-northern-ireland-trade-pact-says-lord-hague/ar-AAYroFx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=fd14c393211845a086cfe3a25678bcbb
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Plans to rip up the Northern Ireland Protocol risks triggering a wave of red tape and costing the region's unfettered access to the EU’s Single Market, farmers and manufacturers have warned.
Stephen Kelly, chief executive of Manufacturing NI, the trade body, said it would “add significantly to the burden on businesses” in both Northern Ireland and Great Britain.
He said: “When you get into the area of dual regulatory regime we could see at best a chilling and likely a complete exclusion from markets leaving NI in a worse position than GB.”
He said: “As a direct result we would have lost the unfettered access to Europe and the option of having the best of both worlds.
“It is hard to see that goods in free circulation traded multiple times between businesses could be prevented from crossing the border if there's a financial incentive to do so.”
An EU official said a dual regulatory regime would be “completely unworkable” and pose “significant risk” to the Single Market.
“It would create confusion for consumers, local producers, and importers. The administrative burden would be intolerable,” the official said.
Northern Ireland’s dairy sector has annual trade with Britain worth £400m a year and £600m for Ireland and the rest of the EU. Milk typically crosses the Irish border into EU territory before being sold.
Mr Johnston said: “About a third of our raw milk, maybe 800m litres a year, moves into the Republic of Ireland for processing.
“The protocol is enabling those trade flows to continue. It is not perfect but we don’t want any damage to what we have at the moment because it is working.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/scrapping-northern-ireland-protocol-will-trigger-wave-of-red-tape-warn-farmers/ar-AAYv9Am?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=02a4ca3ecf79480e829339c11c4023b5
Farmers? Moaning about stuff? Say it isn't true!
Would that be the bunch of people who voted and campaigned to end loads of EU subsidies, and then moaned because the UK wouldn't give them the same subsidies?
It will be fishermen next.
A hint to that EU official. We already have a dual regulatory regime. The Protocol. Which you believe is completely workable. But, of course, any other sort of dual regulatory regime is automatically unworkable?
3 sets of people who make the DUP look like eternal optimists
The NI economy has outperformed the rest of the UK.
So maybe the best of both worlds pitch was true.
I still find it strange that a government that came up with this pitch, had no interest in applying it to the whole of the UK.
The protocol clearly needs some further negotiation.
Yet Liz Truss has not engaged with the EU in a meaningful way since February.
She lies and manipulates stats to suit her own ends.
78% of MLAs dont want to get rid of the protocol.
There is a clear majority that are in favour of the protocol, although many of them would like to see some adjustments.
How can you maintain that the EU wont negotiate, when they offered to reduce customs checks by 80%, and resolved the medicines issue, at the drop of a hat.
I think it is just a Boris underhanded "kick the can down the road" plan.
He clearly hoped that the promise of legislation would get the DUP back to work.
Knowing full well the legislation is likely to take around 12 months to go through.
He probably planned to deal with the fact that the legislation will not satisfy the DUP, at some point in the future.
The DUP seemed to have learnt from their past mistakes, and havent fallen for it.
The result of the legislation is likely to be,
The loss of at least some of the "best of both worlds" position that NI currently enjoys.
A little less friction, and fewer customs checks than currently exist.
Legal action from the EU.
A border in the Irish Sea, and some customs checks.
The real problem is the difficulty in having an honest conversation with Boris Johnson.
I am certain that he will have pitched the DUP that the legislation will solve all their problems.
They havent fallen for it.
The DUP problem relates to identity.
They dont want a border or customs checks.
Yet both will still be in place when the legislation goes through, that is assuming it does go through.
Boris has an impossible task of keeping the Tory factions, the DUP, the EU, and Stormont happy.
His lies are coming back to bite him in the ar5e.
78% of MLAs do not support the Protocol. The majority of those purely see it as a means to an end. Namely NI leaving the UK.
It is all very well saying that, in an ideal world, the whole of the UK should be in some form of single market. In an ideal world, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. Unfortunately, we don't live in that World. In my opinion, it would be the best solution to work towards. But political suicide for this Government. And also, so it would seem, the Opposition. Because there is a deafening silence there.
It is the British people who have placed Boris in an impossible position. More than his (undoubted) lies. But never underestimate the EU/Ireland's politicians to lie just as much.
The Tory Party chose the Brexit that we ended up with.
The referendum merely confirmed that a small majority wished to leave.
The Tory Party chose the manner in which we left.
The factions in the Tory Party may have put Boris in an impossible position.
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Is NI protocol bill just ‘relatively trivial set of adjustments’?
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jun/13/boris-johnson-conservatives-brexit-northern-ireland-protocol-uk-politics-latest?page=with:block-62a757c18f083046f4fbd0bb
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/patience-running-thin-with-dup-over-return-to-stormont/ar-AAYwo9e?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=88511e13e5fe4937a8560259632d0160
Sir Jonathan Jones QC
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https://www.politicshome.com/thehouse/article/northern-ireland-protocol-bill-one-of-the-most-extraordinary-i-have-ever-seen
He said the EU had a problem with “all of” the proposals Britain has put on the table and that they were “not serious”, adding it “cannot accept the total elimination of checks”.
But he insisted the bloc’s own plans for a fix would drastically slash red tape for firms, with only a “couple of dozen” food trucks needing to be physically checked per day.
His remarks came as peers urged ministers to impose stricter border checks on all animal products arriving from the bloc over safety fears.
Lord Trees, a professor of veterinary parasitology, warned there is “a major risk” African Swine Fever will spread to British pig farms from the continent.
Responding during a debate Lord Benyon, the rural affairs minister, said the Government has hired 180 extra inspectors to tackle "the highest risk imports".
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/irish-sea-checks-needed-halt-200000502.html
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/word-on-the-street-in-italy-is-that-brexit-britain-s-wheels-are-coming-off/ar-AAYxvBH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=96bb7962d19c48bf972eba85db09c2dd
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/watch-this-and-tell-me-you-dont-think-pm-attorney-general-should-both-be-thrown-from-office-immediately-326546/amp/
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/northern-ireland-protocol-tuv-jim-allister-warns-dup-against-making-a-mistake/ar-AAYAQCF?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e050b079be9047b0b59e9dc58a47719c
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/government-s-top-lawyer-could-change-her-advice-for-political-reasons-senior-tory-warns-after-major-rows/ar-AAYBul5?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e050b079be9047b0b59e9dc58a47719c