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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,369
    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
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    EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,369
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
    The last thing I saw was that her report would be published as soon as the police investigation is complete.
    They surely cant drag it out much longer.
    Cressida **** said it would be complete before she left.
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 163,288

    Boris & Team Crony will find a way to prevaricate such that the Sue Gray report is not published until after the May elections.

    The man has zero shame & a deficient moral compass, he'll wriggle out of this, & I doubt "resign" is in his vocab.

    I am really quite surprised "civil unrest" has not started. It's shameful how we the general public are being taken for fools.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    edited April 2022
    He just makes me want to punch him.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrmdCxP5TYk
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    This reminds me of something that happened to me many years ago.

    Client wanted to plead Guilty to Driving Without Due Care and Attention. By post. It is quite important to plead Guilty by post-as the Mags could not Ban you from driving without making you attend Court. My job was to draft the Plea in Mitigation.

    I thought I had done a good job. The Mags were so "impressed" they rang me. Told me/my Client we had 2 choices-tone down the plea in mitigation, or they would take it as a Not Guilty plea, and Client could attend Court. So I had to redraft it, and had 1 unhappy client.

    The point here is this. Boris, and all the others, had 2 choices. Accept the Police version and pay £50. Or-go to court, risk a Criminal record, and a fine plus costs of about £1,000. and a media frenzy. So-of course-they all paid the fine.

    But-Boris being Boris-he wants a 3rd option. 1 where he BOTH argues about the facts AND avoids pleading Not Guilty.

    Buffoon.

    Its not going away anytime soon.
    Sue Gray is going to be the key here. Unless the Police are going to issue more fines.

    Will she carry on as she started? If so, I do so hope it is before the May elections.
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    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sue-gray-told-she-cannot-183504676.html
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Fresh allegations emerge about Boris Johnson's involvement in partygate
    The Sunday Times said the Prime Minister is preparing to deliver a statement to MPs on Tuesday



    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/uk-world-news/fresh-allegations-emerge-boris-johnsons-6963239
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
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    DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 1,822
    we cant lose Bojo now we need him to stand up to Russia.
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
    Doubleme said:

    we cant lose Bojo now we need him to stand up to Russia.

    What do you think that Boris has done in respect of Ukraine, that an alternative PM wouldnt have?
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    HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 33,379
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