So a thought Occurred to me recently If Putin plays this right He and Russia win in a big way and we lose and lose badly.
See here is the thing if we wont trade with him fine but he can take a large bulk of the worlds natural resources whilst threatening to Nuke anyone who intervenes. He can then take millions or even 10s of millions of slaves for slave labor.
With the backing of India and China 10s of millions of slaves and A hugely significant proportion of the worlds resources Russia wont need trade with us to be prosperous they will be very rich and very powerful.
Further if he starves us of trade for all this we will really struggle and become very poor. Russia will become the dominant super power and be very prosperous where we will wait in ruin for Russia to eventually enslave us. What am I missing here?
If they dont trade, then how do they get rich? Where does their wealth come from? Who pays the money? They might have the natural resources but they need to sell them to make money. Their economy is dropping through the floor. Yes they have billions of dollars of gold but nobody to sell it to to make money. They have huge reserves of gas and oil and only themselves and a very small number of countries willing to buy it.
with regards to the Russian population uprising and over throwing him, I think this is unlikely sure there is some dissent but the majority of the Russian people fully support bringing back the old USSR and fully back Putin.
No, I don't think any Russian wishes to go back to the old USSR. Too many Russians have (had prior to the invasion) life too good. Shops selling western goods and services that were despised under the old USSR regime. Nobody wants to go back to queuing for bread.
As for backing Putin, the older generation, through sheer ignorance of not hearing both sides of the stoary may well support Putin but Generation X, Millennials, and Generation Z have access to sources beyond Russian news programmes broadcast only with approval of the Kremlin.
If we go to world war three we will have the majority of countries on our side sure, However the majority of land mass will be on the other side. Further the majority the of the global population will be on the other side to.
I see dark years ahead.
China has no wish to go down the same route as Russia and have all their trade deals ripped up overnight. That is why they have largely stayed quiet and walking a tightrope of neutrality in their opinions. China wants to be THE superpower of the world by 2050, it will not risk that ambition for Russia.
Pakistan and India are using the situation to suit their own needs at this moment but will not hesitate to take advantage further by buying Russian oil and gas, as cheaply as they can negotiate, as one of the few countries willing to trade still with Russia. That is an uneasy relationship based upon need rather than shared values.
Monday's front pages are dominated by stories of alleged atrocities carried out by the Russian military on civilians in Ukraine. Under the headline "Horror in Bucha", the Guardian reports mass graves have been found in the town north-west of the capital Kyiv, as well as evidence of the killing of civilians in the nearby towns of Irpin and Hostomel. The attacks have led Ukraine's foreign minister to brand Russia being as being worse than infamous terrorist group Isis, the Metro reports. The paper says the atrocities were "evidenced in pictures too horrific to print", including the public execution of handcuffed people and civilians who had been driven over by tanks. The Daily Mirror leads with President Volodymyr Zelensky's accusations that the deaths amount to genocide and that the Russian military was attempting an "elimination of the people" of Ukraine. The paper adds the executions apparently carried out by retreating troops led to 300 civilians being killed in Bucha alone. Analysis by the i concludes the Russian invasion has "shattered" Ukraine's infrastructure, including the destruction of 300 schools and 70 hospitals. The paper reports Prime Minister Boris Johnson is pushing for more severe sanctions to "starve Putin's War Machine".
Bucha was "liberated" on March 31st, but it's taken 3 days for the images to come out.
Some of the victims had white armbands on, which were worn by people to indicate they were friendly towards the russians.
The Azov battalion were in Bucha days before.
I may have misunderstood but I thought that the white armband symbolised civilian and not military? There was an interview with a woman who stated that as soon as she became aware that the Russian troops had entered the vicinity, she placed a white sheet outside her house to let them know it was civilians. This had no impact as they murdered her husband, locked her four year old in a cellar (or something similar) and repeatedly raped her. Several men. They returned to rape her a second and third time before she finally plucked up the courage to try to escape with her son. Fortunately, she made it.
People will look back at the American Right of today. And compare it to times past.
And remember when they were mostly racist, but at least genuinely loved their Country.
Now? Attacking the heart of Democracy via the Capitol riots. Refusing to accept the verdict of a democratic vote in their own country. Sucking up to the Russians at every opportunity. Commie lovers, to use the 1970s phrase.
The American Right of the 1970s would really despise the current American Right.
People will look back at the American Right of today. And compare it to times past.
And remember when they were mostly racist, but at least genuinely loved their Country.
Now? Attacking the heart of Democracy via the Capitol riots. Refusing to accept the verdict of a democratic vote in their own country. Sucking up to the Russians at every opportunity. Commie lovers, to use the 1970s phrase.
The American Right of the 1970s would really despise the current American Right.
People will look back at the American Right of today. And compare it to times past.
And remember when they were mostly racist, but at least genuinely loved their Country.
Now? Attacking the heart of Democracy via the Capitol riots. Refusing to accept the verdict of a democratic vote in their own country. Sucking up to the Russians at every opportunity. Commie lovers, to use the 1970s phrase.
The American Right of the 1970s would really despise the current American Right.
You do know it was Democrats who started the KKK?
Times change.
Who would have believed the American Right would become Commie lovers? Or you, for that matter.
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No, I don't think any Russian wishes to go back to the old USSR. Too many Russians have (had prior to the invasion) life too good. Shops selling western goods and services that were despised under the old USSR regime. Nobody wants to go back to queuing for bread.
As for backing Putin, the older generation, through sheer ignorance of not hearing both sides of the stoary may well support Putin but Generation X, Millennials, and Generation Z have access to sources beyond Russian news programmes broadcast only with approval of the Kremlin. China has no wish to go down the same route as Russia and have all their trade deals ripped up overnight. That is why they have largely stayed quiet and walking a tightrope of neutrality in their opinions. China wants to be THE superpower of the world by 2050, it will not risk that ambition for Russia.
Pakistan and India are using the situation to suit their own needs at this moment but will not hesitate to take advantage further by buying Russian oil and gas, as cheaply as they can negotiate, as one of the few countries willing to trade still with Russia. That is an uneasy relationship based upon need rather than shared values.
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/nato-defeated-cannot-stop-russians-104731872.html
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=putin's+road+to+war&view=detail&mid=F77B6F0A713D75F46100F77B6F0A713D75F46100&FORM=VIRE
Monday's front pages are dominated by stories of alleged atrocities carried out by the Russian military on civilians in Ukraine. Under the headline "Horror in Bucha", the Guardian reports mass graves have been found in the town north-west of the capital Kyiv, as well as evidence of the killing of civilians in the nearby towns of Irpin and Hostomel.
The attacks have led Ukraine's foreign minister to brand Russia being as being worse than infamous terrorist group Isis, the Metro reports. The paper says the atrocities were "evidenced in pictures too horrific to print", including the public execution of handcuffed people and civilians who had been driven over by tanks.
The Daily Mirror leads with President Volodymyr Zelensky's accusations that the deaths amount to genocide and that the Russian military was attempting an "elimination of the people" of Ukraine. The paper adds the executions apparently carried out by retreating troops led to 300 civilians being killed in Bucha alone.
Analysis by the i concludes the Russian invasion has "shattered" Ukraine's infrastructure, including the destruction of 300 schools and 70 hospitals. The paper reports Prime Minister Boris Johnson is pushing for more severe sanctions to "starve Putin's War Machine".
Bucha was "liberated" on March 31st, but it's taken 3 days for the images to come out.
Some of the victims had white armbands on, which were worn by people to indicate they were friendly towards the russians.
The Azov battalion were in Bucha days before.
I call BS
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And remember when they were mostly racist, but at least genuinely loved their Country.
Now? Attacking the heart of Democracy via the Capitol riots. Refusing to accept the verdict of a democratic vote in their own country. Sucking up to the Russians at every opportunity. Commie lovers, to use the 1970s phrase.
The American Right of the 1970s would really despise the current American Right.
Who would have believed the American Right would become Commie lovers?
Or you, for that matter.