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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Hundreds of Ukrainian families halt bids to reach UK after visa delays


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/hundreds-ukrainian-families-halt-bids-110022907.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
    Russia's chief propagandist urges Putin to 'plunge Britain into the depths of the sea' with underwater Poseidon nuke that would trigger a 1,600ft radioactive TIDAL WAVE and wipe the UK off the map

    https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2022/05/02/3642398725118247743/636x382_MP4_3642398725118247743.mp4


    Dmitry Kiselyov, known as 'Putin's mouthpiece', used his Sunday night show to threaten the UK with a nuclear tsunami which he said would 'plunge Britain to the depths of the ocean.' After falsely telling his viewers that Boris Johnson has threatened to bypass NATO and nuke Russia, Kiselyov said Moscow could respond by launching an unstoppable underwater drone that would explode off the British coast - covering this country with a radioactive tidal wave that would destroy most it it while leaving whatever remains as a 'radioactive desert'. Kiselyov's remarks follow a pattern that has developed on Russian state media in recent days of threatening Britain with nuclear holocaust over the government's support for Ukraine. Britain has moved further and faster than other European nations to provide weapons to Kyiv while pressuring the EU to abandon Russian gas and oil. Boris Johnson has also visited Kyiv twice to show his support for

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10774235/Ukraine-war-Russian-state-media-threatens-UK-underwater-nuke.html
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
    We're saved

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,827
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
    edited May 2022
    Why hasn't Biden proposed a face to face meeting with Putin to resolve this crisis?
    You know like Trump did with N Korea.
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 7,995
    VespaPX said:

    Why hasn't Biden proposed a face to face meeting with Putin to resolve this crisis?
    You know like Trump did with N Korea.

    Putins off at the minute.

    Having some surgery and he might need some time to recuperate afterwards.

    He did book it.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
    mumsie said:

    VespaPX said:

    Why hasn't Biden proposed a face to face meeting with Putin to resolve this crisis?
    You know like Trump did with N Korea.

    Putins off at the minute.

    Having some surgery and he might need some time to recuperate afterwards.

    He did book it.
    NHS?
    May have to wait a while...
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
    They really want a full on war with Russia.

  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    ohn R Bruning Briefing.

    Short Ukraine Update:

    The Art of Assassination by Artillery.

    So we know that the Russians have been losing a lot of senior officers in combat. There are 10+ generals who have been killed, most by artillery bombardment. Somewhere north of 40 colonels have been killed as well.

    Up until recently, these attacks have been carried out by the Ukrainians with their existing artillery systems, which are largely Russian guns.

    This is changing. The US and its Western partners have been sending heavy artillery systems into Ukraine. The battle in the Donbas has turned into an artillery duel, so this is additional weaponry will be vital to Ukrainian defense. Additionally, as Pete Salerno has mentioned, the counter-battery radar systems we're sending are also crucial. These allow the Ukrainians to pinpoint Russian artillery batteries and smother them with high explosive shells.

    Interesting development: The 155mm we've been sending is a heavy system with a range with standard ammo of about 24 kilometers. The accuracy of each shell is about 50% within 150 feet of the target point, meaning half the shells will fall inside a 150 feet radius of where the arty crews aimed. Since the shells throw out thousands of metal fragments, known as shrapnel, the lethal area each detonation creates is larger than the 150 feet radius of accuracy. So, these weapons are used against troop concentrations and are designed to saturate an area with explosions and flying chunks of metal. It is incredibly destructive and the largest casualty-producer on a modern conventional battlefield.

    However, the US has an artillery ammunition system for these 155mm guns called the Excalibur. This is a much longer ranged shell--up to 57 kilometers--and it is accurate to 16 feet of the target point.

    Now, there is no word that we are delivering these shells along with the 155s we're sending. However, when you marry up this level of accuracy to the real time battlefield intelligence the US is providing the Ukrainians, you create a sledgehammer that can squash a sewing needle.

    What do you need that accuracy for? Command and control strikes. It could very well be that the United States is assisting Ukraine with both information and weapons that can decapitate Russian battlefield leadership with precision artillery assassinations.

    The process: US Intel detects the presence of a senior leader within artillery range of Ukrainian guns. They pass that information to the Ukrainians with grid coordinates, and the artillerists smother that location with high explosives.

    If this really is an intent of our aid, I think we'll start to see an acceleration of Russian senior officer casualties in the coming weeks as these artillery systems come on line.

    American officials have been remarkably candid about the intelligence we have on the Russian leadership. It is clear that we were deeply inside the Kremlin somehow before the war, as we basically went public with the Russian warplan weeks before they actually undertook it. Since then, we've seen leaks about "secret" Kremlin meetings between Putin and his inner circle, the fact that a USN P-8 surveillance aircraft helped with the attack and sinking of the Moskva, and yesterday the NY Times article on how we are assisting in the Ukrainain de-generalizing of the Russian officer corps.

    Exactly why we've been so public with all this really comes down to either a political gambit, or very very very very very bad OPSEC with US officials wanting to take credit for stuff that needs to be kept quiet. My guess is the former. We leak this stuff to the press, and the Russians will know we're reading their mail, listening to their phone calls, watching them via satellite, working with a system of moles and informants. This may be part of the reason Putin has initiated a 1930s level purge of his intelligence service and military.

    So, the leaks and the public comments about all this may be designed to keep the Russians paranoid and chasing their tail, eating their own and sewing distrust, uncertainty and fear in their own ranks.

    General Vlasov I need you to visit the troops at Izium

    Yeah, no thanks. Not really gonna want to get smothered by HE 155 shells.

    The flip side is this: If we knew our leadership was being actively targeted on a battlefield by a foreign power, how would we react? Helping to sink a capital ship? That feels dangerously close to an act of war. So, if this is really the game the U.S. is playing, it is truly guts-ball and running us along a razor's edge. Hopefully, we have intel that tells us where the Russians think the line is, and we will not cross it.

    Still. Very dangerous times. That said: the more Russian generals and colonels die or are wounded and put out of action, the less capable the Russian army is to conduct offensive operations, and the fewer Ukrainian civilians will face the barbarity that has befallen the ones in the occupied areas.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,830
    I bet there's quite a few far right racists with hitler tatooed on their bodies Britain USA even Russia
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,393
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