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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
    Mystery as multi-millionaire Russian gas executive is found hanged and his wife and daughter, 18, hacked to death in their Spanish villa days after ex Gazprombank official and his family were discovered dead in Moscow flat



    Sergey Protosenya (pictured right in family photo), 55, who had a fortune of over £330 million, is believed to have hacked his wife (centre) and 18-year-old daughter (left) to death before hanging himself in the courtyard of his Lloret de Mar villa (right) on Spain's Costa Brava, in Catalonia. The Mossos Catalan police force told The Daily Telegraph that investigators are working with the hypothesis that Protosenya killed his wife and daughter with an axe and a knife inside the holiday home as they were asleep in their beds. He then hanged himself from railings outside the villa, the newspaper reported. However, according to local publication El Punt Avui, the evidence does not conclusively point to deaths being a domestic violence incident. The bodies of the trio were found on Tuesday, just one day after another Russian multimillionaire, his wife and 13-year-old daughter were found dead in their Moscow apartment, in another apparent murder suicide involving a gun. Alongside the body of multimillionaire Vladislav Avayev (bottom-inset), 51, was his wife Yelena, 47, and younger daughter Maria. The bodies - all with gunshot wounds - were found by the couple's distraught adult daughter Anastasia on Monday. In both cases, the men had connections to Russian gas companies.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10739821/Russian-gas-exec-hanged-wife-daughter-hacked-death-Spanish-villa.html
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,868
    Are the Ukrainians hitting back?

    John R Bruning Breifing

    Brief Update:

    Crazy day here, will try to get a full update in tonight.

    For now, take a look at this:

    This is the hub of Russian missile research & development, the place that conceived the S-400 anti-aircraft missile, the Iskander surface to surface missile, and possibly the Satan II ICBM Putin was just bragging about yesterday after it underwent a test launch. The facility also is responsible for developing space technology.

    This research facility burned to the ground this week. Several people were killed (4-5 at least), and the place is a total loss. The cause of the fire has not been disclosed, or I think discovered. But here in the middle of a war, immediately after a test launch of a next gen missile, Russia's missile research facility has been turned to ashes. I am still trying to wrap my head around this one.

    Anyway, some video:


    Additionally, a second fire of unknown origin broke out shortly after the one in Tver. This blaze totally destroyed Russia's largest chemical plant. This facility was in Kineshma, a city 250 miles east of Moscow. It was the most important producer of solvents in Russia.

    See it burning here:


    Two absolutely crucial facilities have been destroyed by mystery fires in the past 24 hours in Russia.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,458
    stokefc said:

    Are the Ukrainians hitting back?

    John R Bruning Breifing

    Brief Update:

    Crazy day here, will try to get a full update in tonight.

    For now, take a look at this:


    This is the hub of Russian missile research & development, the place that conceived the S-400 anti-aircraft missile, the Iskander surface to surface missile, and possibly the Satan II ICBM Putin was just bragging about yesterday after it underwent a test launch. The facility also is responsible for developing space technology.

    This research facility burned to the ground this week. Several people were killed (4-5 at least), and the place is a total loss. The cause of the fire has not been disclosed, or I think discovered. But here in the middle of a war, immediately after a test launch of a next gen missile, Russia's missile research facility has been turned to ashes. I am still trying to wrap my head around this one.

    Anyway, some video:


    Additionally, a second fire of unknown origin broke out shortly after the one in Tver. This blaze totally destroyed Russia's largest chemical plant. This facility was in Kineshma, a city 250 miles east of Moscow. It was the most important producer of solvents in Russia.

    See it burning here:


    Two absolutely crucial facilities have been destroyed by mystery fires in the past 24 hours in Russia.
    Quite likely a cyber attack like Isreal do to Irans nuclear facilities.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
    Homes For Ukraine whistleblower says UK refugee scheme is ‘designed to fail’


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/homes-ukraine-whistleblower-says-uk-183519545.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
    Boobytrapped milk carton primed with a BOMB is given to grandmother by Russian soldier distributing 'humanitarian aid' in Ukraine



    In a disturbing new twist to Putin's war on Ukraine, Russian soldiers are now pretending to hand out 'humanitarian aid', but a pensioner in Kherson discovered her milk carton was primed with a bomb

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10754103/Boobytrapped-milk-carton-primed-BOMB-given-grandmother-Russian-soldier.html

    In cuffs, the reporter who told the truth: Shameful images show Russian journalist restrained after she was hauled into court over story about Mariupol siege horrors



    Last month, Russia's parliament passed a law meaning anyone deemed to have intentionally spread 'fake' news about the military operation can be jailed for up to 15 years.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10753117/Images-Russian-journalist-restrained-hauled-court-Mariupol-siege-story.html

    Exclusive: Ukrainian girl, 9, heading for Britain is STILL stuck in Poland with her aunt because the government doesn't believe they are related - despite being given legal papers that prove it



    EXCLUSIVE: Nine-year-old Alisa Miroshyna from Ukraine is stranded in Poland with her aunt Viktoria Sochka, 38, and cousin Anastasiia, 14, despite having a sponsor waiting in Hartlepool.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10754057/Ukrainian-girl-9-stuck-Poland-travel-UK-aunt-cousin.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • mumsiemumsie Member Posts: 8,112
    From an article I read here


    Why was Putin holding the table so hard?









    This is not a picture of a man in control. This is the posture of a man close to losing everything. He was always shoulders back, head held high. Now he looks like someone at the principles office waiting for the punishment.

    Putin doesn't have a plan B because at 70 years old there is not enough time for a plan B.

    Putin, sharks and gangsters.

    Putin's actions are not about national pride or national security.

    Putin's actions are about money.

    Putin's power comes from his gangster allies, in exchange for money the gangsters support him. The problem is that the gangsters demand a never ending flow of money.

    Like sharks they gangsters are constantly moving, constantly hunting for more money.

    To remain in power Putin must continually fill the trough with more and more money.

    Putin and his sharks act like gangster capitalists.

    But now they face the basic law of capitalism. Capital success depended largely on one major factor: constant expansion. The business must constantly grow and profits must constantly increase. Putin must continuously provide more and more money.

    Putin is essentially running the world's largest Ponzi scheme.

    The rotten Soviet regime has been replaced by a rotten criminal enterprise. Rule of law had collapsed, and the Russian nation increasingly owes any stability it has to a class of organized crime assembled to steal what riches remained.

    But the Russians and the Russian economy have been picked bare. A Ponzi scheme requires a constant stream of new victims.

    The Ukrainians are the new victims of Putin's Ponzi scheme. Now that the world acts to deny the sharks a new food source the sharks will turn on each other.

    The problem with swimming with sharks is that everything is a source of food, even the other sharks.

    Putin is on the verge of becoming food for the sharks.
  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,868
    A sobering assessment and a history lesson from John R Bruning.

    Today's Update:

    Two more Russian generals were killed since my last update, and one wounded. That makes 10 KIA. Russian losses in the past two weeks in vehicles and tanks alone equal 11 battalion tactical groups worth of gear.

    NATO is giving heavy weapons, aircraft parts, multiple launch rocket systems and a lot more heavy artillery to Ukraine, along with more anti-aircraft weapon systems. The shift in levels of supplies comes as a direct result of several realizations. 1. The Ukrainians might be able to hold the Russians off with such support. 2. The Russian Army and military has no chance against NATO & the US military. They are so hopelessly led, equipped, logsitically limited and poorly trained that in a conventional fight with the West, the Russians would be crushed. This is extremely destabilizing, and with Putin & his minions making it clear their goals are larger than Ukraine, a conflict with NATO is almost sure to come if Ukraine is defeated. And in that conflict, the only redress Russia has to its military limitations is to use its last ace, their nuclear force.

    So, NATO and the West is increasingly seeing Ukraine as the bulwark between a full fledged Russian war against Europe and inevitable nuclear war. That is driving the sense of urgency and the changes in policy. They're willing to take the risk that Russia will escalate over the aid provided because the options are so bad if they do not.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,189
    stokefc said:

    A sobering assessment and a history lesson from John R Bruning.

    Today's Update:

    Two more Russian generals were killed since my last update, and one wounded. That makes 10 KIA. Russian losses in the past two weeks in vehicles and tanks alone equal 11 battalion tactical groups worth of gear.

    NATO is giving heavy weapons, aircraft parts, multiple launch rocket systems and a lot more heavy artillery to Ukraine, along with more anti-aircraft weapon systems. The shift in levels of supplies comes as a direct result of several realizations. 1. The Ukrainians might be able to hold the Russians off with such support. 2. The Russian Army and military has no chance against NATO & the US military. They are so hopelessly led, equipped, logsitically limited and poorly trained that in a conventional fight with the West, the Russians would be crushed. This is extremely destabilizing, and with Putin & his minions making it clear their goals are larger than Ukraine, a conflict with NATO is almost sure to come if Ukraine is defeated. And in that conflict, the only redress Russia has to its military limitations is to use its last ace, their nuclear force.

    So, NATO and the West is increasingly seeing Ukraine as the bulwark between a full fledged Russian war against Europe and inevitable nuclear war. That is driving the sense of urgency and the changes in policy. They're willing to take the risk that Russia will escalate over the aid provided because the options are so bad if they do not.

    I thought this was the case from the offset. I do not really get Russia threatening to Nuke every five minutes.

    I find Russias mentality highly disturbing. Should we ever reach the situation where we truly believe that the best course of action is to drop a nuke on Russia or someone else we will not be celebrating we will not happily be doing this. Where as in Russia they showed videos of them Nuking Florida and there was massive cheering. On Russian TV they were laughing at the idea of Nuking New York.

    They actually enjoy the idea of wiping us out in a nuclear holocaust how disturbing is that?

    If hypothetically Russia knew for 100% certainty that they could stop everyone of our Nukes I believe they would Nuke us to oblivion right now. However as I understand it even if somehow Russia could get every single one of their Nukes to hit us where they want with 100% certainty and could stop every single nuke we fired at them with 100% certainty, it would still wipe Russia out, because as I understand if just 100 Nukes go off it would make our planet uninhabitable due to a Nuclear Winter and other environmental damage. If so it is literally impossible for any side to win a Nuclear war because every side loses. So why would people be so willing to start such a war?
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,445
    Ukraine war could last as long as TEN years, warns Foreign Secretary Liz Truss as she tells Western allies that Russia under 'desperate rogue operator' Putin is even less trustworthy than Soviet Union



    The Foreign Secretary (right) said Vladimir Putin (inset), the Russian leader, is a 'desperate rogue operator' who should not be rewarded for his aggression. Government officials are concerned Putin could launch attacks on Moldova or Georgia if he is allowed to keep hold of Ukrainian territory, dragging the conflict on for years to come. In a major foreign policy speech last night, Miss Truss warned if he 'succeeds there will be untold further misery across Europe and terrible consequences across the globe'. She said Britain and its allies must 'keep going further and faster to push Russia out of the whole of Ukraine'. And in an indication that the battle over Ukraine could drag on, she argued 'we must be prepared for the long haul'. The shocking prediction came as the human cost of war was underlined by a heartbreaking triple funeral in Ukraine which showed the true human cost of the savagery that Russia's leader has unleashed on his neighbour. Yuri Glodan (pictured, centre) was wrecked with the pain of loss and disbelief when he was forced to bury his beloved three-month-old daughter Kira, his wife Valeria and his mother-in-law Lyudmila.


    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10760775/Ukraine-war-FIVE-YEARS-ministers-fear-Liz-Truss-slams-Putin.html
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