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now until November Hcap, flat only Inc A/W 200 point bank

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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Mentioned this one other day, in my horses to follow.
    Huge step up, but....
    22/1 Bog fifth 1 2 3,have to back it.
    Epsom 14.20 TEUMESSIAS FOX
    1.5 points ew 22/1



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    thefallthefall Member Posts: 1,969
    Mr Haggas the master flat trainer. Anyone with Lester on hand has head start!
    Of course Mr Gosden will improve but like the Haggas Balding outfits they are not quite as overbearing as genial John.

    G, mister
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Apologies for posting at 13.20
    Race 13.50 Epsom, the Dash.
    Should this oblige,not posted, I will be tearing the few follicles I have left, OUT.
    Last years Winner MOOKATIL
    4lb lower than last winning hcap mark.
    S.Williams more than capable of targeting one.
    pilot (can ride) takes another 7lb off.
    Add, visor on & tongue tie on.
    1.5 points ew 5/1 Bog fifth 1 2 3 4

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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,531

    BOOM

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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,531

    Lovely to see a horse win like that. Out the back with a furlong left to run, wins by 2 lengths going away.

    Well done.
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Cheers, 7lb claimer, brilliant
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    ps hard as I try, will always transpose letters, it is not intentional.
    Security Code
    I Williams
    etcetera!
    Day start running 154.91
    bets on day;
    YEAR OF THE DRAGON 3 x split stakes singles & a double 9 points 6/1
    (smoked, Puff Puff)
    'how you all think I have struggled spelling this!
    can't pronounce it, let alone spell it'
    TEUMESSIAS FOX 3 points 22/1 (sp 17/2)!!!
    Glad it was punted late into single figures,probably made zero difference,but,brilliant position, travelling smooth as silk,wish Probert ridden to get upsides the Jolly,soon as they get unbalanced at Epsom, your a million.
    MOOKATIL won 6/1 (BOG) needed summit return 13.80 + 10.80
    Security Code,zero on it betting wise,just hope it can do, what I think it will.
    Lose day 1.20 points, running 153.71
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    thefallthefall Member Posts: 1,969
    Well done the pj OI OI
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Ground Hog Day
    I care, really do..
    Off chance,anyone off the Forum going Lingfield 2mozzy?
    After racing,The Star Inn (quality pub / dining / B&B)
    which is family friendly, child friendly, even Dog Friendly
    Quintessential,owners Spent a Fortune
    (children will LOVE IT)
    come on down to find out, believe me, its special,for likkle one's.
    come,or Google (make sure 2022 Google) tis special,
    With (on race days) dous Penguin,yep, door staff! leafy Lingfield!
    Two mammouths pon door,because,past experience,inebriated race attendees.
    3 miles north of Lingfield,for quality Quintessential dining, in the countryside...
    The Grumpy Mole, recommend, Whistle & Bell,disappointed you will not be.
    Having one, only one bet Wednesday;
    Lingfield 19.30..
    Trained by! Stuart Williams
    Ridden by David Probert!
    SOYOUNIQUE 3 points WIN 7/2




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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    with a genuine real wry smile,nout else.
    gee gees & poker,in similar 'form'
    Security traded, was bet all rates odds on in running down to 2s On
    (the 1.5 on the left is shortest price bet in running)
    I don't 'think' it's a very good 3yo colt, I know it is.Dont forget, Security carried 9.9 Assessment 9.2 so was giving 7lbs.
    We also now know,M.Stoute has a really nice one as well.
    Every cloud,what we can now also conclude,is one of Roger Varians & one of Simon Crisfords must be followed.
    Crisfords COURT OF SESSION a very easy 2 1/2 length 5/2 winner last Friday (no entries at present)
    Roger Varians colt MANNAFITH beat Stoutes Assessment last year,not out since
    (no entries at present)
    Because Security Code & Assessment,notebook Mannafifth & Court Of Session.

    Only bet today, last at Lingers tonight, 19.30 Soyounique.
    £5.50 bh this breakfast.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    misterpjSmall blind20.0020.003330.00
    BarkersdozBig blind40.0060.002990.00
    Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
    Tommy6Fold
    howdeedodeRaise200.00260.003885.00
    misterpjCall180.00440.003150.00
    BarkersdozCall160.00600.002830.00
    Flop
    • Q
    • Q
    • 8
    misterpjBet300.00900.002850.00
    BarkersdozCall300.001200.002530.00
    howdeedodeFold
    Turn
    • 10
    misterpjBet1200.002400.001650.00
    BarkersdozRaise2400.004800.00130.00
    misterpjAll-in1650.006450.000.00
    BarkersdozAll-in130.006580.000.00
    misterpjUnmatched bet320.006260.00320.00
    misterpjShow
    • 8
    • 8
    BarkersdozShow
    • 2
    • Q
    River
    • 2
    BarkersdozWinFull House, Queens and 2s6260.006260.00
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Running 150.71
    All prices correct and available 07.30 am.
    Bev 16.40 KIHIVAH try and get the 11/4 BOG been punted, code switcher hurdles back to egg & spoon flat decent flat form for D. Coundon (Ireland) 3 points WIN.
    Chelms 18.07 PUERTO DE LA VEGA 9/4 BOG 3 points WIN
    Chelms 19.07 ROUGE FORCE 5/2 BOG 3 points WIN
    1 point WIN treble Kih BOG 11/4 Rouge BOG 5/2 Puerto BOG 2/1
    (obviously for treble back same firm)
    Suerte.





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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    'you can't eat value'
    whom said that!
    can't eat it, but handy to get it, then a turnover question.
    in full reverse order;
    Every Bet
    every price bet v sp.* beat sp
    Rouge Force backed 5/2 sp 3/1 lost
    Peurto De Vega backed 9/4 sp 6/5* lost....
    Kihavah backed 11/4 sp 6/4* 2nd lost.....
    Soyunique backed 7/2 sp 9/4* lost.....
    Mokatil backed 5/1 Bog sp 6/1 WON
    Teumessias Fox backed 22/1 sp 17/2* lost.....
    Year Of The Dragon backed 6/1 sp 5/1* lost.....
    Security Code (in multi, not single) backed 11/10 sp 7/4 2nd short head!
    Saga (in multi, not single) backed 5/4 sp 8/13* 2nd.....
    Rainbow Fire backed 9/4 sp 11/2 3rd (placed)
    Morning Poem backed 15/8 sp 5/4* lost ....
    Mount Kiscosco backed 9/4 sp 2/1* 4th (placed).....
    Twenty Shares Of Grey backed 7/2 sp 11/4* lost.....
    Strenghy N Honor backed 4/1 sp 7/2* lost....
    Migration backed 11/1 sp 16/1 2nd,through a wall of horses, just couldn't get up.
    Mr.Mac backed 16/1 sp 9/1* lost .....
    Marie Paradis backed 5/1 sp 5/1 2nd
    Forge Valley Lad backed 3/1 sp 3/1 2nd
    Dembe backed 11/1 sp 10/1* WON
    Aasser backed 4/1 sp 7/2* WON.......
    Lord Neidin backed 66/1 50/1 40/1 sp 80/1 still running!
    Yazaman backed 25/1 & 20/1 sp 17/2* nearest finish! .......
    Get Ahead backed 11/1 sp 9/1* 3rd nose & 1/2....
    Cabrakan backed at 5/1 & 13/2 sp 13/2 (max bet) missed break a million, beaten not a lot, nearest finish, placed 3rd
    Charles St backed 3/1 sp 10/3 2nd
    Iressistable backed 33/1 & 28/1 sp 25/1*... beat 3/4 for place
    High Fibre backed 4/1 sp 4/1 2nd beat a pixel.
    Raatea backed 8/1 sp 13/2*... 3rd placed
    Perfect News backed 5/1 sp 9/2*..4th neck
    Fard backed 12/1 sp 16/1 lost
    Showalong backed 11/1 sp 14/1 lost
    Yummylicious backed 3/1 sp 10/3 4th
    Tiare backed 5/2 sp 15/8*... lost
    Saddle Her Up backed 13/2 sp 7/1 lost
    Forceful Speed backed 15/4 sp 7/2*..lost
    TUMBLER Prix La Force & French 2000g
    backed 7/2 sp 6/5*... lost
    Mobarahin backed 10/3 sp 5/2*...lost
    High Velocity 10/3 sp 4/1..lost
    Flight Command backed 11/2 sp 5/1*...lost
    Odd Socks Havvanah backed 5/2 sp 15/8*.. WON
    Naughty Nadine backed 12/1 sp 8/1*.. 4th
    Inclement Weather backed 6/1 sp 5/1*..WON
    Royal Aviation backed 6/1 sp 4/1*.. WON
    Lord Neidin backed 20/1 sp 11/1*..lost
    Makebelieveth backed 5/2 sp 7/2 2nd
    Peter The Great backed 5/2 sp 11/4 lost
    Lethal Levi backed 2/1 sp 7/4*.. 3rd lost
    Nicholas George backed 7/2 sp 5/2*..WON
    Salvator Mundi backed 7/2 sp 9/2 2nd
    Octopus backed 11/1 sp 7/1*..lost
    My Eyes Adore You backed 7/2 sp 2/1*...lost
    Big Wing backed 9/2 sp 3/1 lost
    Gurkhali Warrior backed 11/2 sp 9/2*.. 3rd placed
    Ray Arturo backed 40/1 sp 80/1 still running
    Master Sargent backed 8/1 sp16/1 still running
    Prince Rock backed 14/1 sp 10/1*..placed 3rd
    Spinaround backed 9/1 bog sp 14/1 2nd
    Oh This Is Us backed 18/1 sp 14/1*...lost, very strange ride Rossa Ryan
    Argirl backed 13/2 sp 6/1*..4th nearest finish.
    Home Eric backed 3/1 sp 3/1 lost
    Pluperfect backed 7/2 sp 4/1 lost
    English 1000g INSPIRAL 11/4 (now 5/2) DISCOVERIES 14/1 (now 10/1)
    English 2000g SAGA 50/1 probably won't run in the 2000
    will win on turf... soon,promise you lot that.
    French 2000g TUMBLER 14/1 is a tool, possibly a sprinter
    will win on turf soon,promise you lot that.
    The ones that have made a big difference to figures (2nds)
    Spinaround 2nd sp 14/1,Salvator Mundi 2nd sp 9/2,High Fibre 2nd sp 4/1 nose(pixel) Charles St 2nd sp 10/3,Forge Valley Lad 2nd 3/1,Marie Paradis 2nd 5/1,Migration 2nd sp 16/1,yday Kihivah 2nd backed 11/4 sp 6/4.the one that got away, out the lot;
    Cabrakan max bet at 13/2 & 5/1
    missed break nearest finish, placed 3rd.
    (we might get that back) with interest, very soon!
    Punting Today, 2% of 140 2.8,allow myself to round up to max bet 3 points
    running 140.71
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Sandown 13.20
    Shanko 3 points win 4/1 everywhere BOG

    Sandown 15.00
    Mutasaabec 3 points win 5/1 everywhere BOG

    1.5 point each way double with Fred's, because;
    Shanko 4/1 with BOG fifth odds 1 2 3 4 places
    Mutasaabec 5/1 with BOG quarter odds 1 2 places
    Sandown 15.35
    Frantastic top price 12/1 one place
    me no account with them, so my bet at 11/1 Freds again
    1.5 points each way 11/1 BOG fifth 1 2 3 places, Fred's.

    1 point WIN treble Fran 11/1 Mutasa 5/1 Shank 4/1 all BOG
    13 points bet on day, Suerte.
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    thefallthefall Member Posts: 1,969
    Gl as always.

    Have a busy day today but when I've the time I shall look closely at that long list.

    Purely as a trading platform you seem to have a huge number of selections that shorten up, that always interests me.

    Great column.

    Gl..
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    Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 160,531
    thefall said:

    Gl as always.

    Have a busy day today but when I've the time I shall look closely at that long list.

    Purely as a trading platform you seem to have a huge number of selections that shorten up, that always interests me.

    Great column.

    Gl..


    As both you & @misterpj both well know, they do say that if your tip at prices that consistently beat the SP then you are not doing much wrong & should be profitable in the long-term.
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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    Cheers Mark & Tony
    GT, one thing, keep trying.
    Frantastic backed 11/1 (12s was available) sp 9/1 still running
    Shanko backed 4/1 sp 4/1 lost
    Mutasaabec backed 5/1 sp 85/40 beat neck 2nd nearest finish, gonna say it, under 'handbrake Jimmy Crowley' handbrake not on today, just a pphhiisshh ride.
    Running 127.71
    Saturday,punting boots strapped on.
    When you 'fancy a horse' or 'fancy a race'
    You have to fire both barrels.
    Sat Haydock 14.05
    (happens to be skybet monies back as cash, 1st bet, up to £10)
    ALREHB winner for me on this lto, can back it now 18.30 Fri at 9/2 zero bog
    3 points WIN ALREHB 9/2
    sane race
    backed Hannons Oh This Is Us, this thread,now off a rude mark (TURF) still has ability, off course it does, not regressed so much, in ten months
    (my humble opinion) Hannon booked Marquand.
    16/1 a fifth 1 2 3 4 with 3 major books, 1.5 points each way.
    same race
    RHOCSOLYN straight in notebook lto, with big improver to come written next to it.
    10/1 a fifth 1 2 3 4 two major books 1.5 points each way.
    never, punting, leave 'oh, could have, should have backed' ever,hence;
    If, prices get smashed, next bets not so clever, however;
    1/2 point comb fcast (3 betting points) 1/4 point comb tric (1.5 betting points)
    13 point total bet, on a single race,got a strong opinion about it, simple as that.
    Prices, correct, bet & laid 18.30 Fri eve. paul



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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    for clarity;
    I look at Lingfield racecourse every day of my life
    go past it, or in it, 6 days out of 7
    Follow Lingfield horses / form, left, right centre.
    Try to put, every Lingfield bet (my own bets) on this.
    Salvator Mundi, zip to do with Lingers
    2nd (2s on in running under Rab) Windsor lto (backed it this thread)
    Travels like a dream
    Frankie on it tomorrow
    Salvator, backed it on here lto Gosdens / Rab H Windsor
    Frankie tomorrow, Leicester 14.10
    backed it thrice, at 19.33 & 1941 & 19.48
    3/1 one place, 11/4 everywhere
    SALVATOR MUNDI 3 points win 3/1 Leicester 14.10




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    thefallthefall Member Posts: 1,969
    Good luck I've been through those figures this morning seriously impressed.

    Purely as a trading vehicle I calculated you were well ahead.

    Only two alarming drifters which would have took 75 percent back.

    I had you approx 64 units up with the 2 drifters taking back 48.

    Of course it's not a 64 unit profit but all the winners would be the unit profit I.e 3-1 equals 3 etc.

    If you factor in Betfairy prices being better you are what I suspected a seriously good judge. 👍

    Hope they all land today,



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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    never mind today's bets for a moment
    R4's non runner inc in multi combo bets
    never mind 2nd & 3rd (same race) & 3rd,ballax! to that.
    Wednesday, I posted below, one bet on day, thought it a MORAL
    last at Lingers, Wed night.3 points win 7/2 naturally smashed up into 9/4
    Result, 6th of 7 at 9/4 sp
    17.45 tonight, without a sixpence on, hoses in at Wolvs 3/1
    Take 6 inch rusty nail, self insert it in my punting boot!



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    misterpjmisterpj Member Posts: 3,204
    day start running 127.71
    3 points win ALREHAB 9/2
    1.5 points each way OH THIS IS US 16/1
    non runner 10/1 pulled out this morning
    3 points win Salvator Mundi 3/1
    combi fcast (because non runner) became 1/2 point rev fcast
    combi tric (because non runner) became 1/4 point rev fcast
    Result
    Alraheb 2nd sp 3/1 backed 9/2 r4
    Oh This Is Us 3rd backed 16/1 sp 11/1 r4
    Salvator Mundi 3rd backed 3/1 sp 11/4
    10.50 points bet
    return
    16/1 placed fifth odds 16/5 to 1.5 points less R4 5p! 6.06
    lose day (marvellous!) 4.44 points
    Running 123.27 (looks ruefully upon rusty nail)
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