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Another blow for Boris & Sunak & Javid quit Cabinet

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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Essexphil said:

    Had to smile when Boris sacked Gove. That was payback 6 years in the making.

    Meanwhile, Suella Braverman. A person without shame.

    Feels perfectly able to say on live TV that Boris should go. And is the first to throw her hat in the ring to replace him.

    Yet still feels perfectly able to remain in the Cabinet. Quite breathtaking.

    We can only hope that those Ministers that have been perfectly willing to defend the indefensible, and go along with the Boris barefaced lies, will in future be consigned to a political wilderness, from which they will be unable to return.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,782
    edited July 2022
    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Had to smile when Boris sacked Gove. That was payback 6 years in the making.

    Meanwhile, Suella Braverman. A person without shame.

    Feels perfectly able to say on live TV that Boris should go. And is the first to throw her hat in the ring to replace him.

    Yet still feels perfectly able to remain in the Cabinet. Quite breathtaking.

    We can only hope that those Ministers that have been perfectly willing to defend the indefensible, and go along with the Boris barefaced lies, will in future be consigned to a political wilderness, from which they will be unable to return.
    That is not the way politics works.

    The other side of that particular coin is that some of these people will have demonstrated loyalty to the PM's cause. Whoever is the next leader will be trying to separate those people who are loyal to the Office of PM, as opposed to just Boris. Because the former are an asset.

    I respect those who try and defend the indefensible. I respect those who are publicly loyal and privately urge him to go. I respect those who feel they have no option but to resign.

    The categories I don't like?

    1. People who stay in the Government and yet brief against him in the Press

    2. People who resign in a totally self-serving way. The ones who feel the need to put a CV in the resignation letter, pointing out their good work. And end it with a barefaced lie such as "with very best regards", "yours ever" and "kind regards". All as dishonest as the person they are deriding.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,782
    Just a quick thought.

    People who refuse to resign, and stay in the Cabinet.

    Can I call them the "Remainers"? :)
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Essexphil said:

    Had to smile when Boris sacked Gove. That was payback 6 years in the making.

    Meanwhile, Suella Braverman. A person without shame.

    Feels perfectly able to say on live TV that Boris should go. And is the first to throw her hat in the ring to replace him.

    Yet still feels perfectly able to remain in the Cabinet. Quite breathtaking.

    We can only hope that those Ministers that have been perfectly willing to defend the indefensible, and go along with the Boris barefaced lies, will in future be consigned to a political wilderness, from which they will be unable to return.
    That is not the way politics works.

    The other side of that particular coin is that some of these people will have demonstrated loyalty to the PM's cause. Whoever is the next leader will be trying to separate those people who are loyal to the Office of PM, as opposed to just Boris. Because the former are an asset.

    I respect those who try and defend the indefensible. I respect those who are publicly loyal and privately urge him to go. I respect those who feel they have no option but to resign.

    The categories I don't like?

    1. People who stay in the Government and yet brief against him in the Press

    2. People who resign in a totally self-serving way. The ones who feel the need to put a CV in the resignation letter, pointing out their good work. And end it with a barefaced lie such as "with very best regards", "yours ever" and "kind regards". All as dishonest as the person they are deriding.
    The guilty ones have clearly shown that they are either stupid, have no principles, or integrity.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
    James Cartlidge.
    53.
  • EssexphilEssexphil Member Posts: 8,782
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
    James Cartlidge.
    53.
    53 represents a massive number. Probably 1/3 of the relevant posts vacated in less than 48 hours.

    It shows the size of the Payroll. 53 people. I have heard of about 8. And I knew that about 15 of these jobs existed.

    Seriously-we pay someone to be the official trade envoy to Angola and Zambia? That's a job?
  • tomgooduntomgoodun Member Posts: 3,754
    I have it on good authority Boris is offering new ministerial posts on a zero hours contract.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Essexphil said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
    James Cartlidge.
    53.
    53 represents a massive number. Probably 1/3 of the relevant posts vacated in less than 48 hours.

    It shows the size of the Payroll. 53 people. I have heard of about 8. And I knew that about 15 of these jobs existed.

    Seriously-we pay someone to be the official trade envoy to Angola and Zambia? That's a job?
    As the number grows it just makes it less likely that he could win a second confidence vote.
    Interesting to listen to Steve Baker justifying his support for the Boris appointment.
    He claims that he had two things to do,
    1 Beat Jeremy Corbyn.
    2 Get Brexit done.

    Firstly, it is difficult to think of a leader that they could have elected that wouldnt have beaten Jeremy Corbyn, Larry the cat would have beaten him.
    Secondly, Brexit is clearly nowhere near done.

    So his excuses for supporting Boris clearly dont stand up, and the Boris previous behaviour made his conduct as the leader highly predictable.
    You reap what you sew.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
    James Cartlidge.
    53.
    Michelle Donelan.
    54.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    There are now rumours surrounding a resignation statement being prepared.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Its all over he is going.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Game over.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    A lectern will appear outside number 10, very soon.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    HAYSIE said:

    Tikay10 said:


    Half-century possible?

    George Freeman.
    50.
    Guy Opperman.
    51.
    Chris Philp.
    52.
    James Cartlidge.
    53.
    Michelle Donelan.
    54.
    57.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,885
    Serving 3 terms seem a long way away now.
  • EnutEnut Member Posts: 3,521
    He's gone.
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