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  • stokefcstokefc Member Posts: 7,811
    This country is going to the dogs , i really feel for my kids they've got this for another 50 years :(
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,050
    I have already said it we do not have law and order anymore. The only thing keeping me from been a crimminal myself is that I have a sense of morality empathy and conscience. It certainly is not fear of the law If I kicked someones door in beat the **** out of them and stole their stuff there would be no legal consequence. We live in the purge I have said this before.
    I understand things I did not now like why some people post on social media and youtube videos of themselves brandishing knifes. It seemed really silly to me before but I get it the police arent going to protect you or do anything if your attacked, so they try to deter it themselves by looking bad ****.
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,312
    But the masses just sit on their sofas watching on tv thinking it won't happen to them..
  • VespaPXVespaPX Member Posts: 12,312
    Remember when the poll tax was hated by everyone, whatever their leanings, and what it took to get rid of it?
    Are our children worth more than money?
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 7,833
    No matter what you think of him as a person there is an element of truth in what he is saying.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg criticises a new Met Police recruitment campaign.

    'This is a top-down phenomenon. This is not a rogue recruitment campaign, but rather the belief, genuinely held by our elite, that the solution to crime is to be nicer to criminals.'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8htqSDluA
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    edited August 1
    lucy4 said:

    No matter what you think of him as a person there is an element of truth in what he is saying.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg criticises a new Met Police recruitment campaign.

    'This is a top-down phenomenon. This is not a rogue recruitment campaign, but rather the belief, genuinely held by our elite, that the solution to crime is to be nicer to criminals.'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8htqSDluA

    Pity the Tories didnt do anything about it, over 16 years.
  • TheEdge949TheEdge949 Member Posts: 5,649
    Doubleme said:

    I have already said it we do not have law and order anymore. The only thing keeping me from been a crimminal myself is that I have a sense of morality empathy and conscience. It certainly is not fear of the law If I kicked someones door in beat the **** out of them and stole their stuff there would be no legal consequence. We live in the purge I have said this before.
    I understand things I did not now like why some people post on social media and youtube videos of themselves brandishing knifes. It seemed really silly to me before but I get it the police arent going to protect you or do anything if your attacked, so they try to deter it themselves by looking bad ****.

    Hmm. Not really Dave.

    Firstly anybody who kicks my front door in had better be prepared to fight to the death and believe me there are thousands who think that way.

    Don't be a victim, fight like mad and drag them kicking and screaming with you all the way to the ICU if needs be. If they are intent on beating the **** out of you then fighting back can't make it any worse.

    I would rather be judged by 12 people than be carried by 6. Have that as your mantra, stick to it, abide by it and when you commit and go full bore don't suddenly back off, keep going until either you or the threat can't go anymore or the threat retreats.

    Fighting solves nothing, proves nothing and causes pain and distress both as a result of injury or legal consequence. Oh and don't think people aren't banged up everyday for acts of violence. They are. But sometimes fighting is the only option left and when that time comes be first, be fast, be ruthless and be steadfast.

    As for carrying knives many who do end up stabbed with their own weapons. Seen it countless times in City Centres whilst working doors. People start fighting, one pulls a knife and either drops it in the melee or has it taken off him, the other person or persons then give it him back pointy end first.

    Also there are many very successful criminals who don't engage in violence and actually they are probably more dangerous to Joe Public than you think.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    edited August 1
    Doubleme said:

    I have already said it we do not have law and order anymore. The only thing keeping me from been a crimminal myself is that I have a sense of morality empathy and conscience. It certainly is not fear of the law If I kicked someones door in beat the **** out of them and stole their stuff there would be no legal consequence. We live in the purge I have said this before.
    I understand things I did not now like why some people post on social media and youtube videos of themselves brandishing knifes. It seemed really silly to me before but I get it the police arent going to protect you or do anything if your attacked, so they try to deter it themselves by looking bad ****.

    It seems such a shame that you appear to have given up all hope of making your posts at all credible.
    I have just been on Betfair, and they are offering a million to one, for you you to kick in someones door, and beat the sh1t out of them.
    Despite the fantastic odds, I for one will not be wasting a £1 on a bet.
    It wont happen.
    And posting photos of yourself, equipped with some deadly looking knives, on this forum, is unlikely to convince anyone that you are a bit of a hard case.
    You would probably just cut yourself, and end up in hospital.

    Just as a reality check, exactly how many times have you had your door kicked in, and the sh1t beaten out of you.

    Well done for having a day off nuclear annihilation.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    lucy4 said:

    No matter what you think of him as a person there is an element of truth in what he is saying.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg criticises a new Met Police recruitment campaign.

    'This is a top-down phenomenon. This is not a rogue recruitment campaign, but rather the belief, genuinely held by our elite, that the solution to crime is to be nicer to criminals.'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv8htqSDluA

    I have no time for him.
    I think it is a bit rich.
    You would think that the Tory Government had nothing to do with him over the last 16 years.
    They put themselves in a position where they were forced to choose between letting prisoners out early, or stopping judges from sending any new ones to jail.
    They chose to let thousands out early.
    You can hardly accuse them of being tough on prisoners.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,050

    Doubleme said:

    I have already said it we do not have law and order anymore. The only thing keeping me from been a crimminal myself is that I have a sense of morality empathy and conscience. It certainly is not fear of the law If I kicked someones door in beat the **** out of them and stole their stuff there would be no legal consequence. We live in the purge I have said this before.
    I understand things I did not now like why some people post on social media and youtube videos of themselves brandishing knifes. It seemed really silly to me before but I get it the police arent going to protect you or do anything if your attacked, so they try to deter it themselves by looking bad ****.

    Hmm. Not really Dave.

    Firstly anybody who kicks my front door in had better be prepared to fight to the death and believe me there are thousands who think that way.

    Don't be a victim, fight like mad and drag them kicking and screaming with you all the way to the ICU if needs be. If they are intent on beating the **** out of you then fighting back can't make it any worse.

    I would rather be judged by 12 people than be carried by 6. Have that as your mantra, stick to it, abide by it and when you commit and go full bore don't suddenly back off, keep going until either you or the threat can't go anymore or the threat retreats.

    Fighting solves nothing, proves nothing and causes pain and distress both as a result of injury or legal consequence. Oh and don't think people aren't banged up everyday for acts of violence. They are. But sometimes fighting is the only option left and when that time comes be first, be fast, be ruthless and be steadfast.

    As for carrying knives many who do end up stabbed with their own weapons. Seen it countless times in City Centres whilst working doors. People start fighting, one pulls a knife and either drops it in the melee or has it taken off him, the other person or persons then give it him back pointy end first.

    Also there are many very successful criminals who don't engage in violence and actually they are probably more dangerous to Joe Public than you think.
    So I will concede I didnt mention the risk of a fight back if someone kicked my door in, I would not be going for the kill just to immobalize disable them but I would not be holding back at all. Eg I would not be holding myself back due to fear of killing them i would do anything in power to disable them. In the purge the risk of going for other people would be that they in fact could kill you too.

    I think a point may have been missed with your second post, I for one am not going to kick anyones door in, under any realistic circumstance. not out of fear, if I was going to do that sort of thing I would make a point of knowing my target etc, but see morality I have my a conscience and morality.

    For me to do such an act we would need one of the following scenarios,
    1. There is a fire and I am the only one/best equipped to stand a chance of saving the person or people inside.
    2. the people/person in the property have seriously hurt me or loved ones in some way and I have been to the authorities and they wont do anything. because whilst I dont believe the police will do anything I would still trying going to them as my first port of call if a victim of crime. They would have had to of inflicted some sort of permenant damage to me or loved ones and got away with it eg police wont do anything etc.
    3. I am absolutely desperate eg broke facing starvation and homeless and can see no other way of surviving.

    None of these scenarios are likely, I would say you likely have more chance in winning the euromillions then any of these scenarios playing out. so far no one has kicked my door in I have been the victim of fraud and also had a few attempted muggings.

    As for weidling a knife or knifes on social media etc I dont claim to be tough and regardless of things I can see no positives coming from me posting pictures anywhere of me with knifes.

    that been said I can amusement for me in posting a pic of Winni with a knife so...


  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,050
    to be clear I mean people attempted to mug me.
    I did not mean me attempt muggings I have done that.

  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Watch: Rioter bitten on backside by police dog after telling officers ‘I pay your wages’

    https://youtu.be/P2e_VP4WWTA




    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/watch-hartlepool-protester-bitten-backside-115835591.html
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 168,760


    Ha, love it. That'll teach him to get mouthy.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Tikay10 said:



    Ha, love it. That'll teach him to get mouthy.

    Maybe the dog just thinks he is worth a pay rise.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    More than 30 protests planned for this weekend in Southport stabbing aftermath



    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/almost-30-protests-set-ahead-082900328.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Man with swastika tattoo at Sunderland riots praised by far right protester for ‘pure British’ body art


    https://uk.yahoo.com/news/sunderland-rioters-compliment-man-swastika-095929387.html
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,050
    well its not safe at all out right now so looks like the weekend will be spent in lockdown.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 35,536
    Doubleme said:

    well its not safe at all out right now so looks like the weekend will be spent in lockdown.

    Join the Nans.
  • DoublemeDoubleme Member Posts: 2,050
    HAYSIE said:

    Doubleme said:

    well its not safe at all out right now so looks like the weekend will be spent in lockdown.

    Join the Nans.
    no cause the one that threatened to beat me up that one time might be with them. Seriously though there tend to be rules most people follow with this sort of stuff even the worst sides a lot less people will attack an old lady then will attack a middle aged man in these riots.
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