secondly not that she can outplay anyone fwiw just read it back the villain could easily get away from the hand and will know exactly where they are cant see op play high pp this way could have low pp or overcards so with the call which is just under 3 -1 so could think hey ill take my chances
lol mum, firstly batkin is a woman secondly not that she can outplay anyone fwiw just read it back the villain could easily get away from the hand and will know exactly where they are cant see op play high pp this way could have low pp or overcards so with the call which is just under 3 -1 so could think hey ill take my chances Posted by YOUNG_GUN
lol mum, firstly batkin is a woman secondly not that she can outplay anyone fwiw just read it back the villain could easily get away from the hand and will know exactly where they are cant see op play high pp this way could have low pp or overcards so with the call which is just under 3 -1 so could think hey ill take my chances Posted by YOUNG_GUN
We should assume villain has no intention of folding post flop after putting half their stack in pre. I don't even understand the rest of this post.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well i give up trying to explain why the odds are correct for the call. However the pre raise isnt gr8 UTG but once thats been made you have to call implied odds and all.
Pryce i think u are 50-50 here in scaring off a 1st poster. Like i said at the start when i offered my opinion and didnt say anyone else was wrong and didnt pick anyone elses posts to pieces i agree with the call and its one i could and would make in BH or most MTT's considering stack sizes. I may have come across the wrong way in some posts but hey ho i am not a rude person im just blunt. U have insulted me trying to tell ppl im on the dole whereas im actually a mum of 1 who owns her own company. I would like to apologise to the original poster as this has ruined his thread and like to thank eagles for his apology and hope he recieved mine back. Pryce u need to realise to be a winnnig player and to help others your way isnt always correct and it has been proven with good solid facts in Talons thread. If u honestly think every re raise pre is overcards then fair enough but he could be stealing or anything here as short stacked. (bet if u had small stack like that u would shove here with AK)
And for the record this isnt me calling in the post it is a different player. If there is a right way to play everything then whats the point in playing poker? Odds say call... Implied odds say call... Pryce says fold
Pryce6 is right on this one I'm afraid Batkin. When all's said and done, your not calling that pf. Also, I saw pryce on total player, and he is actually very attractive, in sort of a greek/italian way. I enjoyed this thread though, well done everyone. xx Posted by mattm88
lol mum, firstly batkin is a woman secondly not that she can outplay anyone fwiw just read it back the villain could easily get away from the hand and will know exactly where they are cant see op play high pp this way could have low pp or overcards so with the call which is just under 3 -1 so could think hey ill take my chances Posted by YOUNG_GUN
this explains a lot...
im only joking, dont get offended/go crazy, just messin
batkin quit while your 10ft underground you're talking nonsense, go back to watching dwan on youtube and stop insulting people like pryce who actually seem to have a clue
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well i give up trying to explain why the odds are correct for the call. However the pre raise isnt gr8 UTG but once thats been made you have to call implied odds and all. Pryce i think u are 50-50 here in scaring off a 1st poster. Like i said at the start when i offered my opinion and didnt say anyone else was wrong and didnt pick anyone elses posts to pieces i agree with the call and its one i could and would make in BH or most MTT's considering stack sizes. I may have come across the wrong way in some posts but hey ho i am not a rude person im just blunt. U have insulted me trying to tell ppl im on the dole whereas im actually a mum of 1 who owns her own company. I would like to apologise to the original poster as this has ruined his thread and like to thank eagles for his apology and hope he recieved mine back. Pryce u need to realise to be a winnnig player and to help others your way isnt always correct and it has been proven with good solid facts in Talons thread. If u honestly think every re raise pre is overcards then fair enough but he could be stealing or anything here as short stacked. (bet if u had small stack like that u would shove here with AK) And for the record this isnt me calling in the post it is a different player. If there is a right way to play everything then whats the point in playing poker? Odds say call... Implied odds say call... Pryce says fold What would u do??? Posted by Batkin88
yep cool. like i said to ya its not personal i just disagree with what your sayin lol. opinions vary.
I aint been on sky for a while but gotta say reading through some of the threads/posts it seems lately its the blind leading the blind lol. but there are some v good players here who offer some great advice (ironically players who in the past ive argued/disagreed with on occasions believing i know better - when infact i didnt have a clue!) but tbh u really should listen & try to understand it because its sound advice.
as for this hand my advice would be to listen to the advice pryce has given or certainly dont just dismiss it because imo what he is saying is pretty much spot-on. but at the end of the day its your money & you can play the game how you wish - but if so many ppl are disagreein with your thought processes, ask yourself why?
Batkin88 you seem like a decent enough woman BUT i have to agree with nearly everything pryce has said in all his posts, he states some very important facts !!
Shocking call & shove pre = Simples
Ps...I think you two would make a lovely couple, reminds me of me & the misses
i didnt disagree with pryce i think his way is absolutely fine its probably how i would play it in a cash game but the whole point of the clinic is to get different opinions and both sides of the coin. As its a new day im going to end this debate cause its not going anywhere at the end of the day there are ppl agreeing with me aswell as pryces its LAG V'S TAG at the end of the day. Quite enjoyed the debate apart from the insults
Btw I've never really felt the need to post before, but some of the views put forward in this thread really do destroy my faith in humanity. Posted by hi_mum
Either that or this account was set up by a reg on here who wants to remain annoymous?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well i give up trying to explain why the odds are correct for the call. However the pre raise isnt gr8 UTG but once thats been made you have to call implied odds and all. Pryce i think u are 50-50 here in scaring off a 1st poster. Like i said at the start when i offered my opinion and didnt say anyone else was wrong and didnt pick anyone elses posts to pieces i agree with the call and its one i could and would make in BH or most MTT's considering stack sizes. I may have come across the wrong way in some posts but hey ho i am not a rude person im just blunt. U have insulted me trying to tell ppl im on the dole whereas im actually a mum of 1 who owns her own company. I would like to apologise to the original poster as this has ruined his thread and like to thank eagles for his apology and hope he recieved mine back. Pryce u need to realise to be a winnnig player and to help others your way isnt always correct and it has been proven with good solid facts in Talons thread. If u honestly think every re raise pre is overcards then fair enough but he could be stealing or anything here as short stacked. (bet if u had small stack like that u would shove here with AK) And for the record this isnt me calling in the post it is a different player. If there is a right way to play everything then whats the point in playing poker? Odds say call... Implied odds say call... Pryce says fold What would u do??? Posted by Batkin88
I wonder if thats gonna stop dohhhhhhhhh from perving at ya now lol.
fwiw batkin the villain's call would be better in a cash game than in this spot, at least then stack sizes would be a lot bigger compared to the blinds so he'd have a lot better implied odds against premium hands.
Talon's logic is flawed because underpairs must be heavily discounted given hero has put half is stack in the middle rather than shoving. And an overpair is more likely than overcards tbh so the villain is just going to lose more chips when he hits most of the time as has already been said. Also he won't get to realise all his equity against overcards anyway as hero is shoving any flop.
In hero's position I'd just shove pre given that most randomers on sky raising utg aren't folding w/e we make it. Obv the call with T9 is shocking though.
coming back and re rereading all this is hilarious YB i fully understand ur point as do i understand pryce's i just can see why he has called i dunno maybe im a fish lol i dunno if i PM u back but cheers for them tips helped loads
imo pryce is right although he was a tad callous... but oh well its the poker clinic and thats just the way he appears to come across online. Posted by BlackFish3
this thread is depressing batkin quit while your 10ft underground you're talking nonsense, go back to watching dwan on youtube and stop insulting people like pryce who actually seem to have a clue Posted by zing
In Response to Re: was he right to call? : Either that or this account was set up by a reg on here who wants to remain annoymous? Posted by donkeyplop
fwiw this player has been on Sky for a while.
Batkin I meant no offence to you as a person honestly. Your opinions and posts were just so flawed and tbh everything you've said in this thread has been ridiculous. What I said is right, you should never play this another way. Btw I would be 100% more likely to make this call in a cash game where your opponents stack gives you some sort of implied odds. The point people are trying to make is given his short stack a move like this is almost always a monster - as in he wants to give you the odds to call.
Btw I meant nothing by the dole comment. I just assumed when you said this was 'your job' that you were a fish that had lucked their way to a few hundred - and actually believed that this was some kind of career. If you actually own a company I do apologise, just don't confuse people by trying to claim fishing on sky poker is some kind of lucrative full time job for you.
lol still no need to post this debate is over my friend cant be bothered with your silly remarks either gl at the tables and would be nice to play u some tym
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secondly not that she can outplay anyone fwiw just read it back the villain could easily get away from the hand and will know exactly where they are cant see op play high pp this way could have low pp or overcards so with the call which is just under 3 -1 so could think hey ill take my chances
In Response to Re: was he right to call?: i think u need to get a life robot
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm well i give up trying to explain why the odds are correct for the call.
However the pre raise isnt gr8 UTG but once thats been made you have to call implied odds and all.
Pryce i think u are 50-50 here in scaring off a 1st poster.
Like i said at the start when i offered my opinion and didnt say anyone else was wrong and didnt pick anyone elses posts to pieces i agree with the call and its one i could and would make in BH or most MTT's considering stack sizes. I may have come across the wrong way in some posts but hey ho i am not a rude person im just blunt.
U have insulted me trying to tell ppl im on the dole whereas im actually a mum of 1 who owns her own company.
I would like to apologise to the original poster as this has ruined his thread and like to thank eagles for his apology and hope he recieved mine back.
Pryce u need to realise to be a winnnig player and to help others your way isnt always correct and it has been proven with good solid facts in Talons thread.
If u honestly think every re raise pre is overcards then fair enough but he could be stealing or anything here as short stacked. (bet if u had small stack like that u would shove here with AK)
And for the record this isnt me calling in the post it is a different player.
If there is a right way to play everything then whats the point in playing poker?
Odds say call... Implied odds say call... Pryce says fold
What would u do???
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yep cool. like i said to ya its not personal i just disagree with what your sayin lol. opinions vary.
I aint been on sky for a while but gotta say reading through some of the threads/posts it seems lately its the blind leading the blind lol. but there are some v good players here who offer some great advice (ironically players who in the past ive argued/disagreed with on occasions believing i know better - when infact i didnt have a clue!) but tbh u really should listen & try to understand it because its sound advice.
as for this hand my advice would be to listen to the advice pryce has given or certainly dont just dismiss it because imo what he is saying is pretty much spot-on. but at the end of the day its your money & you can play the game how you wish - but if so many ppl are disagreein with your thought processes, ask yourself why?
gl at the tables
i didnt disagree with pryce i think his way is absolutely fine its probably how i would play it in a cash game but the whole point of the clinic is to get different opinions and both sides of the coin.
As its a new day im going to end this debate cause its not going anywhere at the end of the day there are ppl agreeing with me aswell as pryces its LAG V'S TAG at the end of the day.
Quite enjoyed the debate apart from the insults
I wonder if thats gonna stop dohhhhhhhhh from perving at ya now lol.
Talon's logic is flawed because underpairs must be heavily discounted given hero has put half is stack in the middle rather than shoving. And an overpair is more likely than overcards tbh so the villain is just going to lose more chips when he hits most of the time as has already been said. Also he won't get to realise all his equity against overcards anyway as hero is shoving any flop.
In hero's position I'd just shove pre given that most randomers on sky raising utg aren't folding w/e we make it. Obv the call with T9 is shocking though.
i dunno if i PM u back but cheers for them tips helped loads
Sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
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fwiw this player has been on Sky for a while.
Batkin I meant no offence to you as a person honestly. Your opinions and posts were just so flawed and tbh everything you've said in this thread has been ridiculous. What I said is right, you should never play this another way. Btw I would be 100% more likely to make this call in a cash game where your opponents stack gives you some sort of implied odds. The point people are trying to make is given his short stack a move like this is almost always a monster - as in he wants to give you the odds to call.
Btw I meant nothing by the dole comment. I just assumed when you said this was 'your job' that you were a fish that had lucked their way to a few hundred - and actually believed that this was some kind of career. If you actually own a company I do apologise, just don't confuse people by trying to claim fishing on sky poker is some kind of lucrative full time job for you.