In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Correct. People should be VERY careful in clicking obscure Links that are Posted. I am going to ask the Mods to remove the quoted link, & the original Post, if possible. I hope not too many others suffered similar problems. Really, the Community may be forced to ban ALL links soon, this is dangerous stuff, & we have a responsibility to show a duty of care. Members need to refrain from posting Links that may not be "clean". Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Correct. People should be VERY careful in clicking obscure Links that are Posted. I am going to ask the Mods to remove the quoted link, & the original Post, if possible. I hope not too many others suffered similar problems. Really, the Community may be forced to ban ALL links soon, this is dangerous stuff, & we have a responsibility to show a duty of care. Members need to refrain from posting Links that may not be "clean". Posted by Tikay10
So Tikay what i was trying to assure all our genuine ly good players and ureself alike that ,most of what I had said prior to this doj poker ban in usa tripe most of what i had assumed was actually not "GUFF" at all??
Just take into consideration how many times ure network gets base attacked,...y8ou can bet ure bottom dollar most of its coming from chinese dos/ghostnet. gl though....
In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Correct. People should be VERY careful in clicking obscure Links that are Posted. I am going to ask the Mods to remove the quoted link, & the original Post, if possible. I hope not too many others suffered similar problems. Really, the Community may be forced to ban ALL links soon, this is dangerous stuff, & we have a responsibility to show a duty of care. Members need to refrain from posting Links that may not be "clean". Posted by Tikay10
So glad it takes said most respected person on sky to come out and grant that links etc and other un-original content to be carefully monitored .. I personally believe half of the issues are down to these social network sites ie facebook ,So be carefull what you browse and download thats my advice..
By the way can we get a rundown on the latest developments on the encription methods and tech details please for the sky poker players to look at..Im bit baffled there isnt much info on any of this/or computer tech info. I know we got a tech query forum but can we have another for computer help etc???
Look lets be honest ...the Government is upset,that it does not get any TAX from online gambling,so its going to find a way to TAX it,then make it legal....
I dont understand why this isnt bigger news. No station has picked it up and it isnt in the media at all really. Rig a couple of cricket games and the world comes to an end. Were talking serious stuff here and no media coverage. Very odd.
I dont understand why this isnt bigger news. No station has picked it up and it isnt in the media at all really. Rig a couple of cricket games and the world comes to an end. Were talking serious stuff here and no media coverage. Very odd. Posted by AMYBR
Its been covered by all the major US news TV channels (Wont post links) Within the poker community one of the biggest stories ever. UK media (not that I would recommend reading them but here you go anyway):
Gambling actually use to be taxed in the UK but GORDON BROWN actually abolished it after Labour came to power in 1997.
The reason he abolished it was because it was actually costing the exchequer revenue because people were gambling through foreign betting and gaming companies were winnings wernt taxed.
In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Very true about government here and ty for the links. I just thought the story would have broke bigger here . Wasnt sure if it was good spin, selective mediaship or just that our networks dont really care. Posted by AMYBR
Its down to popularity and understanding imo, its only a big story to the community and the industry and it was States thing
Do you recal the responces and the ignorant comments you may have got from non-poker playing people when you mention you play poker? Its way from mainstream
Gambling actually use to be taxed in the UK but GORDON BROWN actually abolished it after Labour came to power in 1997. The reason he abolished it was because it was actually costing the exchequer revenue because people were gambling through foreign betting and gaming companies were winnings wernt taxed. Posted by BrownnDog
Ahhh, the good old days where I used to argue with a friend about if it's better to pay the tax on a racing bet with the stake or on the winnings. We still never finished that one.
In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Ahhh, the good old days where I used to argue with a friend about if it's better to pay the tax on a racing bet with the stake or on the winnings. We still never finished that one. Posted by TommyD
Concidering most all of punters are long time losers, it was probably best to pay tax on winnings since you pay tax on less money.
Example: lifetime wages = £10,000 of tax at 10% = £1000 Winnings £8000 with tax = £800
In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites : Concidering most all of punters are long time losers, it was probably best to pay tax on winnings since you pay tax on less money. Example: lifetime wages = £10,000 of tax at 10% = £1000 Winnings £8000 with tax = £800 £800<£1000 Posted by TWRAMYEP
That was my side of the argument. My friend was a regular sports better with an invincibility complex. Last time I saw him was about five years ago and he had become a poker pro. I haven't seen him in the press or with any great shakes on Hendon Mob so either he's mainly a cash man or he may have had a misunderstanding. Hope he's doing well, lovely bloke but with a degen streak.
There have been a number of revelations in the DoJ documents. It's not a huge surprise that there were some shady dealings going on in order to facilitate USA players deposits and withdrawals. The complexity is rather startling though. The most startling thing to be revealed is the amount of rake these sites were generating from money deposited into the site. It's estimated they were raking between 40% and 50% of every dollar deposited.
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I am going to ask the Mods to remove the quoted link, & the original Post, if possible. I hope not too many others suffered similar problems.
Really, the Community may be forced to ban ALL links soon, this is dangerous stuff, & we have a responsibility to show a duty of care.
Members need to refrain from posting Links that may not be "clean".
Just take into consideration how many times ure network gets base attacked,...y8ou can bet ure bottom dollar most of its coming from chinese dos/ghostnet. gl though....
I personally believe half of the issues are down to these social network sites ie facebook ,So be carefull what you browse and download thats my advice..
By the way can we get a rundown on the latest developments on the encription methods and tech details please for the sky poker players to look at..Im bit baffled there isnt much info on any of this/or computer tech info.
I know we got a tech query forum but can we have another for computer help etc???
Within the poker community one of the biggest stories ever.
UK media (not that I would recommend reading them but here you go anyway):
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/retailandconsumer/8456290/Online-poker-sites-shut-down-and-charged-with-fraud-in-US-crackdown.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/major-online-poker-sites-accused-over-money-laundering-2269011.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377470/Poker-websites-shut-FBI-probe-end-online-gambling.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-isle-of-man-13155474
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13114935
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13121768
I just thought the story would have broke bigger here. Wasnt sure if it was good spin, selective mediaship or just that our networks dont really care.
Edit: This is just from memory if someone could verify above
Example: lifetime wages = £10,000 of tax at 10% = £1000
Winnings £8000 with tax = £800
£800<£1000
There have been a number of revelations in the DoJ documents. It's not a huge surprise that there were some shady dealings going on in order to facilitate USA players deposits and withdrawals. The complexity is rather startling though. The most startling thing to be revealed is the amount of rake these sites were generating from money deposited into the site. It's estimated they were raking between 40% and 50% of every dollar deposited.
I find that a staggering percentage.