Re the T7o hand. Your push is effectively 11653 chips (what it costs him to call + half the BB). Based on the range you've assigned him this is the maths; 70% of the time he folds, you win the blinds, 2400 chips 70% x +2400 = +1680 10.5% (35% x 30%) of the time he calls and you win a 24907 pot for +13254 profit 10.5% x +13254 = +1392 19.5% (65% x 30%) of the time he calls and you lose your 11653 shove 19.5% x -11653 = -2272 +1680 +1392 -2272 --------- +800 So on averge your push shows a profit of 800 chips. It's +cev, whether or not it's +£ev is another matter. I hope this helps (took 5 mins). Posted by GaryQQQ
Hi Gary
Isn't the 70% an assumption that you are making about how often your opponent will fold. What do you feel about my post and the chart that says its wrong to do this? Maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick but until i understand it then i'll be assuming the villain has hands that are better than they need be.
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Hi Gary Isn't the 70% an assumption that you are making about how often your opponent will fold. What do you feel about my post and the chart that says its wrong to do this? Maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick but until i understand it then i'll be assuming the villain has hands that are better than they need be. Posted by profman15
I aint saw the whole thread of this conversation but presumably, we are making some educated guesses about our opponent and think he is playing the top 30% of hands (which means he's folding the bottom 70%)
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Hi Gary Isn't the 70% an assumption that you are making about how often your opponent will fold. What do you feel about my post and the chart that says its wrong to do this? Maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick but until i understand it then i'll be assuming the villain has hands that are better than they need be. Posted by profman15
Hey Prof, I think Gary (had no option but to) base/d his calculations on the percieved calling range of the opponent that I gave him in an earlier post.
Ofc the key to the whole problem is working out how tight/wide he will call my shove, and then picking the optimal shoving range based on this.
That's the poker part. I gave the range as top 30% of hands, { 22+, A2s+, K7s+, Q9s+, JTs, A2o+, K8o+, QTo+ } which is maybe kinda tight for an optimal calling range, but that's the kind of player I felt I was up against. As I said before, I felt he was the type to value his tournament life more than the potential edge he could gain from making marginally +ev calls.
He wasn't overly tight, just felt he was holding out and playing on the tighter side of 'perfect' short stacked poker.
Up early for the cricket today, England just finished their innings and somehow managed to get to 250+, which probably isn't enough but alot more than we looked like getting an hour ago!
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Got half hour to try something different in the update here, gonna post the 'story of my tourny' from my last session. The 10 key hands from start to finish.
Quite alot of HH's, but see how it goes. All feedback welcome
I played a £12 sat into the big £110 BH.
The payout structure guarentees 2 seats, and the tourny is capped @ 25 runners.
This comp did max out, meaning the payouts were as follows....
1 - It doesn't take too long, it's over within around an hour and half. 2 - It's top heavy, which rewards aggressive players, and alot of players don't adapt. 3 - The blind structure is very good, it's quite fast, but the levels are very balanced throughout.
Here goes....
My approach in tournaments early doors is just to play well. (lol! sick first line right)
What I mean is, I never have a strategy to play loose, or tight, or gamble early, or any other theory that some players may adopt. I just play the hands as they come and try to adapt to the table as soon as possible.
Key Hand 1
It's always nice to get a sizeable early pot, I normally feel 'in' the game if I can get above starting stack instead of scratching around being card dead and fighting to keep my head above water.
Fortunately I got off to a solid start with this hand.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
c_h_r_i_s
Small blind
15.00
15.00
3692.19
mikem1981
Big blind
30.00
45.00
2970.00
Your hole cards
A
K
LnarinOO
Fold
theduck117
Call
30.00
75.00
2880.00
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
120.00
195.00
2865.00
ANDY13
Call
120.00
315.00
2880.00
c_h_r_i_s
Call
105.00
420.00
3587.19
mikem1981
Call
90.00
510.00
2880.00
theduck117
Fold
Flop
6
K
Q
c_h_r_i_s
Check
mikem1981
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
330.00
840.00
2535.00
ANDY13
Fold
c_h_r_i_s
Call
330.00
1170.00
3257.19
mikem1981
Fold
Turn
K
c_h_r_i_s
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
690.00
1860.00
1845.00
c_h_r_i_s
Call
690.00
2550.00
2567.19
River
K
c_h_r_i_s
Check
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
1845.00
4395.00
0.00
c_h_r_i_s
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Muck
DOHHHHHHH
Win
2550.00
2550.00
DOHHHHHHH
Return
1845.00
0.00
4395.00
I think my line here is standard? I've just gone for 3 streets and sized my bets to make the river a shove. I gather there is a theory in poker that people never fold a full house. I suspect this villain found a fold here with that type of hand, so wp him. And a great start for me!
Key Hand 2
Went abit quiet after that. This hand isn't a biggie, but my good start allows me to make a few 'small ball' plays such as this without dropping into the danger zone.
There isn't alot of room to get creative, but similarly there's not much time to sit back and wait for TT+ and AK.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
c_h_r_i_s
Small blind
75.00
75.00
4204.38
Jeffter
Big blind
150.00
225.00
2777.50
Your hole cards
A
2
theduck117
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
300.00
525.00
3895.00
bracewell1
Fold
c_h_r_i_s
Call
225.00
750.00
3979.38
Jeffter
Fold
Flop
J
4
3
c_h_r_i_s
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
450.00
1200.00
3445.00
c_h_r_i_s
Call
450.00
1650.00
3529.38
Turn
9
c_h_r_i_s
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Check
River
3
c_h_r_i_s
Bet
600.00
2250.00
2929.38
DOHHHHHHH
Fold
c_h_r_i_s
Muck
c_h_r_i_s
Win
1650.00
4579.38
c_h_r_i_s
Return
600.00
0.00
5179.38
I dunno what he had here, but I guess I have to open, have to cbet that flop, have to give up the turn, and have to fold the river!
Sigh.
Key Hand 3
Looks inocuous, but this is one of the key hands in the tournament. Need these spots to go my way, I could easily shove into a dominated hand, or lose the race as I'm not far ahead against any hand really, but it's a standard shove with stacks, and a key momentum builder.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
DOHHHHHHH
Small blind
150.00
150.00
3095.00
bracewell1
Big blind
300.00
450.00
1758.12
Your hole cards
K
3
Jeffter
Fold
DREAMHUNTE
Fold
theduck117
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
3095.00
3545.00
0.00
bracewell1
All-in
1758.12
5303.12
0.00
DOHHHHHHH
Unmatched bet
1186.88
4116.24
1186.88
DOHHHHHHH
Show
K
3
bracewell1
Show
7
8
Flop
10
2
10
Turn
J
River
6
DOHHHHHHH
Win
Pair of 10s
4116.24
5303.12
Key Hands 4, 5 & 6.
Getting into the mid stages now, with around half the field gone and approaching the 2 table stage.
Found AK in the big blind @ 150/300. Rock solid TPT player (they all normally have it) 3x's utg from 20xbb, and I have 17 bigs. I'm not loving it, but I know I have to get it in and probably win a flip.
So I did, I did, and I did.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
theduck117
Small blind
150.00
150.00
4689.38
DOHHHHHHH
Big blind
300.00
450.00
5003.12
Your hole cards
A
K
Jeffter
Raise
900.00
1350.00
6555.00
DREAMHUNTE
Fold
theduck117
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
5003.12
6353.12
0.00
Jeffter
Call
4403.12
10756.24
2151.88
DOHHHHHHH
Show
A
K
Jeffter
Show
Q
Q
Flop
A
3
2
Turn
6
River
7
DOHHHHHHH
Win
Pair of Aces
10756.24
10756.24
Exactly 1 orbit later, I'm back in the bb and dealt another premium hand, QQ.
The small blind min raises from 16xbb, as he would with alot of hands.
I have no other move but to ship it, and hope he has a genuine hand. He's unlikely to have 1 in this scenario, and will probably fold most of the time but I feel shoving is still the best option as he might find it hard to fold some mediocre hands, and may level himself into thinking I'm light because it's a blind v blind battle.
More run good for me, he makes a very easy/good call with pocket 9s, and we hold again.
Flying now.
Literally the next hand, and I'm dealt another premium. Again, I'm faced with a jeffter 3x open from early position. Again, I know he is strong, but I have pocket tens and he has 5 big blinds, what can I do?
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
DOHHHHHHH
Small blind
150.00
150.00
16195.62
chefboy79
Big blind
300.00
450.00
6725.00
Your hole cards
10
10
AJE222
Fold
Jeffter
Raise
1200.00
1650.00
501.88
DREAMHUNTE
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
16195.62
17845.62
0.00
chefboy79
Fold
Jeffter
All-in
501.88
18347.50
0.00
DOHHHHHHH
Unmatched bet
14643.74
3703.76
14643.74
DOHHHHHHH
Show
10
10
Jeffter
Show
K
A
Flop
10
Q
4
Turn
8
River
K
DOHHHHHHH
Win
Three 10s
3703.76
18347.50
Call and flop him dead right?
3 cooler situations in my favour within the space of 7 hands give me the tournament chip lead and put me in great shape with around 8 players remaining.
This was as good as it got for a while. I'd done the hard work, there was no real need for me to get involved now, unless the cards set up an un-avoidable cooler situation. Thankfully nothing disasterous happened, and I made the final table in a healthy position.
With blinds @ 400/800 going into the FT, my game plan at this stage was to try and stay out of the way of mike and carp, and hopefully get down to 4 handed asap. I knew that the plot would develop quite quickly on the final table, within 1 or 2 orbits, the short stacks would have either doubled, or bust, and the situation and therefore my strategy would become alot clearer.
Contrasting fortunes for the shorties, as rivermunky departed early, but tarator and mishmish both ran very well at the expense of the big stack, carpcaper who was playing an extremely loose game. Mikem was next to depart, meaning we were on the bubble, with the stacks as follows.
The payout in the tournament means that the top 2 spots are worth double 3rd, but 3rd itself is 5x the entry fee, and 4th pays nothing.
Not really clued up on final table ICM, but my 'logical' approach (rightly or wrongly) was to try and secure the 3rd place money, and then take my chances at trying to crack the top 2 places.
This is a really interesting hand, and would appreciate any feedback/opinions on this one imparticular.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
tarator
Small blind
500.00
500.00
33420.00
CARPCAPER
Big blind
1000.00
1500.00
1435.00
Your hole cards
A
Q
mishmish
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
2000.00
3500.00
11897.50
tarator
Call
1500.00
5000.00
31920.00
CARPCAPER
Fold
Flop
7
7
2
tarator
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
3000.00
8000.00
8897.50
tarator
Call
3000.00
11000.00
28920.00
Turn
9
tarator
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Check
River
10
tarator
Bet
3000.00
14000.00
25920.00
DOHHHHHHH
Fold
tarator
Muck
tarator
Win
11000.00
36920.00
tarator
Return
3000.00
0.00
39920.00
You can see I started the hand with 14 big blinds @ 500/1k.
The big blind is the short stack, playing 2.5xbb, with 1 of those already invested.
My initial aim in the tournament is to secure 3rd place.
My thoughts at the time, were that there is no way the big blind is folding. And therefore there's no way I'm folding pre flop, unless for some reason the small blind shoves, and the big blind folds, then I guess I'd have to fold.
The small blind calls, which I'm not too concerned about, hopefully he recognises the situation, and we can check it down and both ladder securely into the money. Of course if he is switched on he can exploit this situation and put pressure on me, as he knows I have alot more to lose here than he does.
My other option pre flop is of course to jam all in from the button. Do people prefer this? I'm really not sure and at the time was totally confused by how to approach such an unusual payout structure.
Should I go all out for the top 2 spots? (shove) Or try and 'small ball' my way into the top 3?
To my amazement, the bb finds a fold. I get a really good flop to cbet, but my opponent check calls.
I'm now facing a turn spot where any bet puts my stack into life support territory. Is he really going to fold to a turn barrell? Is it worth the risk?
I felt I had too much to lose, and gave up on the hand. I still have like the nut no pair hand, and 2 overs. So I could be good already on such a dry board, and if not, I could get there on the river.
He leads the river, and I have to fold.
I'm really annoyed at this hand. My hands are tied due to the stack of the big blind, he has 1.5xbb left, to my 9xbb, I'm sure it would be ICM suicide to spew my stack off here, but I'm not sure?
Key hands 8 & 9.
Yes, the fact that there are at least 2 more key hands when we're on the bubble with a 1.5xbb stack can only mean bad news is imminent
The very next hand, the shorty on life support finds the Ace he's been waiting for. And gets the double up.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
CARPCAPER
Small blind
500.00
500.00
935.00
mishmish
Big blind
1000.00
1500.00
23747.50
Your hole cards
J
8
DOHHHHHHH
Fold
tarator
Fold
CARPCAPER
All-in
935.00
2435.00
0.00
mishmish
Call
435.00
2870.00
23312.50
CARPCAPER
Show
7
A
mishmish
Show
K
8
Flop
Q
5
6
Turn
5
River
2
CARPCAPER
Win
Pair of 5s
2870.00
2870.00
Again, the very next hand after that, another Ace, another double up.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
mishmish
Small blind
500.00
500.00
22812.50
DOHHHHHHH
Big blind
1000.00
1500.00
7897.50
Your hole cards
2
9
tarator
Fold
CARPCAPER
All-in
2870.00
4370.00
0.00
mishmish
Call
2370.00
6740.00
20442.50
DOHHHHHHH
Fold
mishmish
Show
8
5
CARPCAPER
Show
A
9
Flop
5
4
K
Turn
A
River
10
CARPCAPER
Win
Pair of Aces
6740.00
6740.00
I appreciate the effort mishmish, but this guy doesn't want to go away!
Ironic, the first time I run bad and miss equity in the whole tournament, and they're not even my cards
So now our friend Carcaper is right back in the game! There's nothing in it between us for the 3rd money spot. He has all the momentum, I'm fearing the worst. The way things have been going lately, it was almost inevitable.
Key hand 10
His stack doesn't show in this HH, but after I've put the big blind in, we are almost dead level.
My focus is now soley on 3rd place, any optimistic ambitions of cracking the top 2 spots for £110 have gone, I'd glady take the £55 now please!
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
mishmish
Small blind
600.00
600.00
24542.50
DOHHHHHHH
Big blind
1200.00
1800.00
6197.50
Your hole cards
K
5
tarator
Fold
CARPCAPER
Fold
mishmish
Call
600.00
2400.00
23942.50
DOHHHHHHH
Check
Flop
6
10
J
mishmish
Bet
1200.00
3600.00
22742.50
DOHHHHHHH
Call
1200.00
4800.00
4997.50
Turn
K
mishmish
Bet
1200.00
6000.00
21542.50
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
4997.50
10997.50
0.00
mishmish
Call
3797.50
14795.00
17745.00
mishmish
Show
6
Q
DOHHHHHHH
Show
K
5
River
6
mishmish
Win
Three 6s
14795.00
32540.00
No such luck
I think my play here is standard. Maybe an optimistic flop call in the situation? I have some good equity though and I can call 1 street I think. I have to fold the turn if I don't improve.
On that turn, it's a no brainer, it's going in. And tbf to him, I suppose he has to call too with the equity he has and the stacks as they are.
I'm left staring at the screen, thinking wowwww what just happened here. How did I not even make the top 3 from that position??????????
How did that happen?
How did I ever win at poker?
How is it possible to win tournaments when you win every single all in, every single flip, run amazing, cooler people, but STILL LOSE?
Will I ever win again?
haha, snap out of it dohhhhhhhhhh.
I had won a scary freezeout mtt earlier in the day tbf, which paid about £35 from £2, and made abit @ HU sngs later, only played about 5 I think. Made for a winning day of around £40.
DOHHHHHHH
138000
1
£34.04
flamingo
0
2
£20.24
trigger7
0
3
£13.80
Groky
0
4
£10.12
STU4RT
0
5
£7.36
lizhard
0
6
£6.44
Could have done with that extra £55/110 on top though
Brings monthly totals to.....
Profit +£145 Points 1008
'furrely fed up' w/poker, maybe something good will happen today
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Hi Gary Isn't the 70% an assumption that you are making about how often your opponent will fold. What do you feel about my post and the chart that says its wrong to do this? Maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick but until i understand it then i'll be assuming the villain has hands that are better than they need be. Posted by profman15
Yes, the only possible variable in the maths is the BB's calling range. Dohhhhhhh himself had said he estimated the villain would only call with the top 30% of hands. So that's the figure I used; 30% calls and 70% folds. Tweaking it wouldn't change the results by much, I reckon it would still come out as a marginal +cev shove if you used calling ranges of say 25% or 35%.
Key Hand 7: Never min raising the btn, shove all day long. Key Hand 10: When he limps, shove pre or shove the flop. Looks like you got to carried away with the shortie & was playing not to lose, instead of trying to win. Is your confidence low at the moment JJ ?? Posted by goodylad21
Well this was the dilemma with the weird payout structure. What is 'not losing' and what is 'winning' in this situation though?
2nd pays the same as first, and there were 2 players with more than double my stack but 1 guy with 1 big blind. Was really unsuual.
I guess confidence is low atm yeah, not really in game though. Any 'tentative' play in the hands above is down more to being unsure what the best plays are in this format, rather than lacking confidence in my own game.
Thanx for the reply. The more I look at hand 7 the more I agree.
Still unsure about 10 though, I don't think I get many folds if I shove pre or shove the flop v that player, and I think I need some folds to make it the right play . . . . . . .
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Hey Prof, I think Gary (had no option but to) base/d his calculations on the percieved calling range of the opponent that I gave him in an earlier post. Ofc the key to the whole problem is working out how tight/wide he will call my shove, and then picking the optimal shoving range based on this. That's the poker part. I gave the range as top 30% of hands, { 22+, A2s+, K7s+, Q9s+, JTs, A2o+, K8o+, QTo+ } which is maybe kinda tight for an optimal calling range, but that's the kind of player I felt I was up against. As I said before, I felt he was the type to value his tournament life more than the potential edge he could gain from making marginally +ev calls. He wasn't overly tight, just felt he was holding out and playing on the tighter side of 'perfect' short stacked poker. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Cheers D
Ty for the reply. Believe i wasn't saying i was right. I was only asking if the process was correct and that a chart i had from the kill everyone book had stated. Your explanation and the posts from Gary earlier are fine. I understand them and ty for the explanations.
Just had a look at your hh for that T. Key hand 7, even with icm and new t odds of pot odd/bubble factor AQs was still a good enough hand to play. You said you were aiming for third and thought BB would have to call so why not shove. Doesn't it provide fold equity v the big stack who would leave it to you to knock out bb, i'd have thought then and even if bb folds then he's on life support. Shove for me but i'm a 'BOOKBOT' i've just found out after getting half way through my latest one!!!! I must admit, i'm surprised mishmash calls AI for 20+BB's with 85s in sb. I don't understand that one myself andif it correct then its back to the drawing board for me. Also you 10bb ai from sb w/ k30 and called with 78s. Are these normal/standard?(i've not looked at the nash charts) No wonder i keep blinding myself down! Good read m8...
Hi D Just had a look at your hh for that T. Key hand 7, even with icm and new t odds of pot odd/bubble factor AQs was still a good enough hand to play. You said you were aiming for third and thought BB would have to call so why not shove. Doesn't it provide fold equity v the big stack who would leave it to you to knock out bb, i'd have thought then and even if bb folds then he's on life support. Shove for me but i'm a 'BOOKBOT' i've just found out after getting half way through my latest one!!!! I must admit, i'm surprised mishmash calls AI for 20+BB's with 85s in sb. I don't understand that one myself andif it correct then its back to the drawing board for me. Also you 10bb ai from sb w/ k30 and called with 78s. Are these normal/standard?(i've not looked at the nash charts) No wonder i keep blinding myself down! Good read m8... Posted by profman15
Hi P, (u like that other P? )
Totally agree with you, my min raise here was poor. I was unsure of the situation with the unique payout structure and made a big mistake min raising here. Far too risk averse. Next time I will be snap shoving this spot.
I think you may have misread the hands here Prof.
When mish calls with the 85s in the small blind, I think the shove is only like 3 or 4 big blinds? I was still surprised to see the call tbh, but as it was a 2 horse race between myself and the shover for the 3rd money spot, I was glad to see the call and take my chances with some more equity to make the cash.
Missed it again though
My shove with the K3 earlier in the game....
He has 1.7k @ 150/300, so although I shove 3k (10xbb) it's 'only' just over 6xbb effective.
King high is easily good enough to shove for 6xbb so that was standard.
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Hope you're running well bud. If you have any hands you wanna post feel free to put them here instead of/as well as the clinic.
Some people are reluctant to post in the clinic, but may post here. I will def reply, some good players might also
No updates from me yet for Wednesday or Friday, I'll merge them!
2 small losing sessions, not much happened on Wednesday at all, I think I lost about 20 quid playing roller and BH sats, really no talking points at all.
Friday I decided to play a cash session. Instead of waiting for 8pm I started around 5ish and played for a couple of hours.
I found it really difficult to multi table during that session. I loaded 6x 30nl as always, I've been doing this for years when playing cash, never really had any problems. Are we getting less time to make decisions?
I feel really rushed all the time.
Maybe it's because I'm not used to thinking in 'cash mode' and therefore my thought process is slower, when previously they'd have been instinctive.
I think I'm going to drop to 4 to begin sessions in future.
Previously have played 9 on sky comfortably, but always considered 6 to be the 'optimum' number of tables for me. Will see how 4 goes next time.
Lots of new players @ 30nl. Some good, some bad, some older ones have improved loads, some older ones are still exactly the same. It's much harder work than it used to be. Obviously playing 5pm - 8pm instead of 11pm - 4am isn't going to help that.
The session itself started bad, I felt abit unlucky to be 2 buyins down early, was getting in awkward spots with 'big on big' confrontations going against me.
JJ < KK v super agro guy. QQ < AA when I 3b and he flatted OOP. Owned me.
Felt I was playing well though, v some tough players who were mixing it up against me. Having an agro dynamic with every single reg on every single table probably doesn't help my multi-tabling issues.
Would be rude not share this hand, always like to get as much advertising equity as I possibly can out of donk plays
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
KKrippler
Small blind
£0.15
£0.15
£30.50
Adicts89
Big blind
£0.30
£0.45
£52.67
Your hole cards
5
J
GuardC4t
Fold
BigHawk89
Raise
£0.90
£1.35
£65.36
bolly580
Raise
£3.60
£4.95
£55.40
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
£7.20
£12.15
£25.11
KKrippler
Fold
Adicts89
Fold
BigHawk89
Fold
bolly580
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Show
5
J
DOHHHHHHH
Win
£8.55
£33.66
DOHHHHHHH
Return
£3.60
£0.00
£37.26
I reckon if u cold 4bet J5 and get it through, your winnings from the hand should be doubled.
All that for £4.95. sigh.
Spose I should show myself getting owned for balance.
Not sure what villain could have had here. I suq!
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
beamer1968
Small blind
£0.15
£0.15
£34.18
stacker59
Big blind
£0.30
£0.45
£31.10
Your hole cards
9
A
shawsok
Fold
Adicts89
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
£0.90
£1.35
£35.55
GuardC4t
Fold
beamer1968
Fold
stacker59
Call
£0.60
£1.95
£30.50
Flop
4
J
7
stacker59
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
£1.00
£2.95
£34.55
stacker59
Raise
£3.00
£5.95
£27.50
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
£6.30
£12.25
£28.25
stacker59
Raise
£12.58
£24.83
£14.92
DOHHHHHHH
Fold
stacker59
Muck
stacker59
Win
£15.72
£30.64
stacker59
Return
£8.28
£0.83
£38.92
Maybe his nothing was better than my nothing. And he knew it. nh.
I broke almost dead even @ cash, making 90pence! ha. Felt good to get out even.
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Anyway today is the last day of the cash promo I believe? It will be interesting to see if these new players stick around, or if they were just here for the promotion.
I'm going to leave them to it today, I imagine alot of them will be putting in a huge Sunday cash grind to scrap for last minute points to get up the cash promo table.
It would be nice to see some kind of promo based on win rate. Obviously with a minimum no. of hands required to qualify.
I'm not sure if people would like this, especially if the results are made public? Will give away who the best players are, but everyone knows who they are anyway, so I dunno?
Could it work? hmmmmm.
Loads of sport today, gonna chill out with a crate of beer and donk about in MTTs. Sundays r terrible for me traditionally, pressure off today would be nice to change that.
Not guna hold my breath tho.
GL Murray in this tie break (and the rest of the match), England closing out the consolation win in India, and all diary readers on your Sunday grind!
Unusual time for an update, but I've been offline most of the day and will be busy before the session tomorrow so here goes.
Eventful Sunday to say the least!
It started with an MTT win! wiiiiiiiiii.
Sounds alot better than it actually was, it was just a small 180 runner 2 euro turbo rebuy on stars.fr, which I took down for around 150 euros.
I was running deep in a couple of other comps on the real PS site, cashed in a rebuy but it was only small, having blown a massive stack, had like 150xbb 2 hours in @ 300/600, ran KK into AA pre, and that kinda tilted me abit. Didn't play terrible but things just went against me.
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Anyway, on to sky. sighhhh.
This pretty much sums up how things have gone for me on Sky this month.
There were obviously lots of Super Sats running for the super roller. They were £6, 1 in 20 jobs, with 2 seats gtd.
Ofc being the day of the tournament itself, there was lots of interest, and the guarentees were smashed, meaning no overlay.
But very top heavy structures got my attention and I entered 2 of them within 15 minutes of eachother, starting around 6-30ish.
I've reg'd the super roller in advance, hoping to take the £110 value of the seat, rather than the seat itself.
An hour in, and I'm running very well, sitting near the top of the leaderboard in both.
It's 7-30, and I'm 1st/9 left in one, and 3rd/11 in the other, with 3 seats gtd in both (60 runners).
Suddenly I start panicking, as I realise the start of the roller is 8pm, and not 9pm, like the usual rollers are.
Oh sh!t! I hope they end in time. I check the lobby, to see how fast the levels go up, and I'm still quite confident they will.
Gets to about 7-45, and we're on the bubble in game 1, and FT of game 2.
I'm short in game 1, sitting 4th of 3, with 3 seats. This 1 is gtd to finish in time, I'd love to take this down and lock up at least £110, then try and push in the 2nd game which I pretty much have locked up.
Unfortunately, it didn't work out, and I was the bubble boy.
Disco3112
118000
1
£30k Super Roller
K8LOU
0
2
£30k Super Roller
leoncupra
0
3
£104.50
DOHHHHHHH
0
4
Ok, no big deal.
I'm 1st/5 remaining in the 2nd sat, with a huge chip advantage!
There's 15 minutes left to the start of the roller, we should easily get this done in time.
5 minutes later, we're still 5 handed, with the 3 seats up for grabs. I'm starting to worry now, the blinds are big, the stacks are short, I'm pushing very wide but everyone keeps folding and taking chips off eachother to stay afloat.
***Horrific moment of realisation***
OMG there's a 5 minute break in 4 minutes, I have 4 minutes to get this over with or I'm going to be late registered into the roller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PUSH NEXT HAND ANY 2.
DOUBLE SUM1 UP.
PUSH NEXT HAND WITH JUNK.
FOLDS
PUSH NEXT HAND DOUBLE SUM1 UP.
I'm now not even comfortable myself, but keep pushing, I have no choice, I cannot play the roller!!!!
FOLDS
MORE FOLDS
STOP FIN FOLDING.
2 minutes to go, it's not going to happen is it?
Shorty gets it in, called, I can fold and hope, he busts, then the last hand b4 the break, shove any 2 myself.
shorty doubles.
omg.
I give up. There is no way this can possibly end before 7-55.
Best case scenario, I manage to get through this now tight bubble and get automatically entered into the roller.
Worst case scenario, I bubble again.
I really don't think the best case scenario is much better than the worst case here. They're just 2 disasterous scenarios.
I spose the advantage is 100 poker points. yippeeeee.
connorg111
57280
1
£30k Super Roller
DOHHHHHHH
55527.50
2
£30k Super Roller
PAUL180
11192.50
3
£30k Super Roller
So, at 5 minutes past 8, the satellite ends, and I win my super roller seat, which snap opens withing a few seconds.
I'm absolutely gutted.
20 minutes ago, I was in great shape, looking at 2x returns of £110 for 2x £6 investments.
I've ended up with a bubble, and a seat I didn't want, that I have no intentions of using.
2nd/60 and 4th/60, and not a penny to show for it, a loss of £12 infact ;(
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On to the roller.....
I played properly for about 6 minutes, won 1 hand with AK, folded quite alot.
Then decided there was no way I could do this and play through 6+ hours of nit folding etc.
Thought I'd try a my own unique mtt strategy, of shoving all in every hand, trying to maybe get my stack up from 10k to 40/50k just by plain gambling.
Then sit out, log off/close the table for a few hours, then come back and hope I am still in contention for a min-cash around the bubble.
Unfortunately it didn't work out.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
gez_bear
Small blind
20.00
20.00
9700.00
PAUL180
Big blind
40.00
60.00
9795.00
Your hole cards
6
K
connorg111
Call
40.00
100.00
10620.00
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
3840.00
3940.00
6455.00
kidwiz10
Fold
kwd
Fold
gez_bear
Fold
PAUL180
Fold
connorg111
All-in
10620.00
14560.00
0.00
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
6455.00
21015.00
0.00
connorg111
Unmatched bet
365.00
20650.00
365.00
connorg111
Show
Q
Q
DOHHHHHHH
Show
6
K
Flop
J
Q
J
Turn
4
River
6
connorg111
Win
Full House, Queens and Jacks
20650.00
21015.00
How does he hold there?
Nice start for 1 lucky runner. lol
And just incase people think I'm making excuses etc and I just played the hand bad....
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
kwd
Small blind
15.00
15.00
9505.00
gez_bear
Big blind
30.00
45.00
9895.00
Your hole cards
A
9
PAUL180
Fold
connorg111
Raise
60.00
105.00
10420.00
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
10015.00
10120.00
0.00
kidwiz10
Fold
kwd
Fold
gez_bear
Fold
connorg111
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Muck
DOHHHHHHH
Win
165.00
165.00
DOHHHHHHH
Return
9955.00
0.00
10120.00
and.....
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
PAUL180
Small blind
15.00
15.00
9835.00
connorg111
Big blind
30.00
45.00
10390.00
Your hole cards
5
3
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
10120.00
10165.00
0.00
kidwiz10
Fold
kwd
Fold
gez_bear
Fold
PAUL180
Fold
connorg111
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Muck
DOHHHHHHH
Win
75.00
75.00
DOHHHHHHH
Return
10090.00
0.00
10165.00
and.....
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
DOHHHHHHH
Small blind
20.00
20.00
10115.00
kidwiz10
Big blind
40.00
60.00
10395.00
Your hole cards
2
9
kwd
Fold
gez_bear
Raise
120.00
180.00
9760.00
PAUL180
Fold
connorg111
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
10115.00
10295.00
0.00
kidwiz10
Fold
gez_bear
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Muck
DOHHHHHHH
Win
280.00
280.00
DOHHHHHHH
Return
10015.00
0.00
10295.00
lol. sigh.
Was pretty tilted by the whole sattellite disaster after that, so didn't play anymore.
Lesson learnt.
I spose the old schoolers who believe sats should be used only by people who want to play the actual tournament will be laughing reading this saying it serves me right.
I have to agree with them, my own fault for entering the sats when I wasn't even aware of the start time of the actual event!
Live and learn, sums up a frustrating January for me!
It's 'Turbo Tuesday' tomorrow, the first time I will have a chance to join in, so looking forward to that. Hopefully I can continue to beat the super sats and get myself in some big turbo comps!
well £6 to win £104 or something with how many runners 35ish ? with top two getting paid can't do the math but it is worth it - is there an mtt that compares
I'm short in game 1, sitting 4th of 3, with 3 seats.
Spotted a leak in your game mate. You go out of a tourney but still think you are playing in it
As for sats....meh....I dont want to argue with ya but I do feel that you are misinterpetationing (lol) them. But as you are not the only one, there is nothing wrong with it.....kind of.....ish.
I'm short in game 1, sitting 4th of 3 , with 3 seats. Spotted a leak in your game mate. You go out of a tourney but still think you are playing in it As for sats....meh....I dont want to argue with ya but I do feel that you are misinterpetationing (lol) them. But as you are not the only one, there is nothing wrong with it.....kind of.....ish. Posted by MAXALLY
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Isn't the 70% an assumption that you are making about how often your opponent will fold. What do you feel about my post and the chart that says its wrong to do this? Maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick but until i understand it then i'll be assuming the villain has hands that are better than they need be.
Ofc the key to the whole problem is working out how tight/wide he will call my shove, and then picking the optimal shoving range based on this.
That's the poker part. I gave the range as top 30% of hands, { 22+, A2s+, K7s+, Q9s+, JTs, A2o+, K8o+, QTo+ } which is maybe kinda tight for an optimal calling range, but that's the kind of player I felt I was up against. As I said before, I felt he was the type to value his tournament life more than the potential edge he could gain from making marginally +ev calls.
He wasn't overly tight, just felt he was holding out and playing on the tighter side of 'perfect' short stacked poker.
Up early for the cricket today, England just finished their innings and somehow managed to get to 250+, which probably isn't enough but alot more than we looked like getting an hour ago!
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Got half hour to try something different in the update here, gonna post the 'story of my tourny' from my last session. The 10 key hands from start to finish.
Quite alot of HH's, but see how it goes. All feedback welcome
I played a £12 sat into the big £110 BH.
The payout structure guarentees 2 seats, and the tourny is capped @ 25 runners.
This comp did max out, meaning the payouts were as follows....
1st - £110 seat/cash
2nd - £110 seat/cah.
3rd - £55 cash.
I enjoy this structure for a few reasons.
1 - It doesn't take too long, it's over within around an hour and half.
2 - It's top heavy, which rewards aggressive players, and alot of players don't adapt.
3 - The blind structure is very good, it's quite fast, but the levels are very balanced throughout.
Here goes....
My approach in tournaments early doors is just to play well. (lol! sick first line right)
What I mean is, I never have a strategy to play loose, or tight, or gamble early, or any other theory that some players may adopt. I just play the hands as they come and try to adapt to the table as soon as possible.
Key Hand 1
It's always nice to get a sizeable early pot, I normally feel 'in' the game if I can get above starting stack instead of scratching around being card dead and fighting to keep my head above water.
Fortunately I got off to a solid start with this hand.
Key Hand 2
Went abit quiet after that. This hand isn't a biggie, but my good start allows me to make a few 'small ball' plays such as this without dropping into the danger zone.
There isn't alot of room to get creative, but similarly there's not much time to sit back and wait for TT+ and AK.
Sigh.
Key Hand 3
Looks inocuous, but this is one of the key hands in the tournament. Need these spots to go my way, I could easily shove into a dominated hand, or lose the race as I'm not far ahead against any hand really, but it's a standard shove with stacks, and a key momentum builder.
Getting into the mid stages now, with around half the field gone and approaching the 2 table stage.
Found AK in the big blind @ 150/300. Rock solid TPT player (they all normally have it) 3x's utg from 20xbb, and I have 17 bigs. I'm not loving it, but I know I have to get it in and probably win a flip.
So I did, I did, and I did.
The small blind min raises from 16xbb, as he would with alot of hands.
I have no other move but to ship it, and hope he has a genuine hand. He's unlikely to have 1 in this scenario, and will probably fold most of the time but I feel shoving is still the best option as he might find it hard to fold some mediocre hands, and may level himself into thinking I'm light because it's a blind v blind battle.
More run good for me, he makes a very easy/good call with pocket 9s, and we hold again.
Flying now.
Literally the next hand, and I'm dealt another premium. Again, I'm faced with a jeffter 3x open from early position. Again, I know he is strong, but I have pocket tens and he has 5 big blinds, what can I do?
3 cooler situations in my favour within the space of 7 hands give me the tournament chip lead and put me in great shape with around 8 players remaining.
This was as good as it got for a while. I'd done the hard work, there was no real need for me to get involved now, unless the cards set up an un-avoidable cooler situation. Thankfully nothing disasterous happened, and I made the final table in a healthy position.
FT STACKS
Carpcaper 25k
DOHHHHHHH15k
mikem 13k
tarator 8k
mishmish 7k
rivermunky 5k
With blinds @ 400/800 going into the FT, my game plan at this stage was to try and stay out of the way of mike and carp, and hopefully get down to 4 handed asap. I knew that the plot would develop quite quickly on the final table, within 1 or 2 orbits, the short stacks would have either doubled, or bust, and the situation and therefore my strategy would become alot clearer.
Contrasting fortunes for the shorties, as rivermunky departed early, but tarator and mishmish both ran very well at the expense of the big stack, carpcaper who was playing an extremely loose game. Mikem was next to depart, meaning we were on the bubble, with the stacks as follows.
tarator - 34k
mishmish - 25k.
DOHHHHHHH - 13k
carpcaper - 4k
Key hand 7
I found myself in an unusual position here.
The payout in the tournament means that the top 2 spots are worth double 3rd, but 3rd itself is 5x the entry fee, and 4th pays nothing.
Not really clued up on final table ICM, but my 'logical' approach (rightly or wrongly) was to try and secure the 3rd place money, and then take my chances at trying to crack the top 2 places.
This is a really interesting hand, and would appreciate any feedback/opinions on this one imparticular.
The big blind is the short stack, playing 2.5xbb, with 1 of those already invested.
My initial aim in the tournament is to secure 3rd place.
My thoughts at the time, were that there is no way the big blind is folding. And therefore there's no way I'm folding pre flop, unless for some reason the small blind shoves, and the big blind folds, then I guess I'd have to fold.
The small blind calls, which I'm not too concerned about, hopefully he recognises the situation, and we can check it down and both ladder securely into the money. Of course if he is switched on he can exploit this situation and put pressure on me, as he knows I have alot more to lose here than he does.
My other option pre flop is of course to jam all in from the button. Do people prefer this? I'm really not sure and at the time was totally confused by how to approach such an unusual payout structure.
Should I go all out for the top 2 spots? (shove)
Or try and 'small ball' my way into the top 3?
To my amazement, the bb finds a fold. I get a really good flop to cbet, but my opponent check calls.
I'm now facing a turn spot where any bet puts my stack into life support territory. Is he really going to fold to a turn barrell? Is it worth the risk?
I felt I had too much to lose, and gave up on the hand. I still have like the nut no pair hand, and 2 overs. So I could be good already on such a dry board, and if not, I could get there on the river.
He leads the river, and I have to fold.
I'm really annoyed at this hand. My hands are tied due to the stack of the big blind, he has 1.5xbb left, to my 9xbb, I'm sure it would be ICM suicide to spew my stack off here, but I'm not sure?
Key hands 8 & 9.
Yes, the fact that there are at least 2 more key hands when we're on the bubble with a 1.5xbb stack can only mean bad news is imminent
The very next hand, the shorty on life support finds the Ace he's been waiting for. And gets the double up.
Ironic, the first time I run bad and miss equity in the whole tournament, and they're not even my cards
So now our friend Carcaper is right back in the game! There's nothing in it between us for the 3rd money spot. He has all the momentum, I'm fearing the worst. The way things have been going lately, it was almost inevitable.
Key hand 10
His stack doesn't show in this HH, but after I've put the big blind in, we are almost dead level.
My focus is now soley on 3rd place, any optimistic ambitions of cracking the top 2 spots for £110 have gone, I'd glady take the £55 now please!
I think my play here is standard. Maybe an optimistic flop call in the situation? I have some good equity though and I can call 1 street I think. I have to fold the turn if I don't improve.
On that turn, it's a no brainer, it's going in. And tbf to him, I suppose he has to call too with the equity he has and the stacks as they are.
mishmish 75000 1 £5,000 B/Huntertarator 0 2 £5,000 B/HunterCARPCAPER 0 3 £55DOHHHHHHH 0 4
sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'm left staring at the screen, thinking wowwww what just happened here. How did I not even make the top 3 from that position??????????
How did that happen?
How did I ever win at poker?
How is it possible to win tournaments when you win every single all in, every single flip, run amazing, cooler people, but STILL LOSE?
Will I ever win again?
haha, snap out of it dohhhhhhhhhh.
I had won a scary freezeout mtt earlier in the day tbf, which paid about £35 from £2, and made abit @ HU sngs later, only played about 5 I think. Made for a winning day of around £40.
Brings monthly totals to.....
Profit +£145
Points 1008
'furrely fed up' w/poker, maybe something good will happen today
Run good all.
Yes, the only possible variable in the maths is the BB's calling range. Dohhhhhhh himself had said he estimated the villain would only call with the top 30% of hands. So that's the figure I used; 30% calls and 70% folds. Tweaking it wouldn't change the results by much, I reckon it would still come out as a marginal +cev shove if you used calling ranges of say 25% or 35%.
Key Hand 10: When he limps, shove pre or shove the flop.
Looks like you got to carried away with the shortie & was playing not to lose, instead of trying to win.
Is your confidence low at the moment JJ ??
Ty for the reply. Believe i wasn't saying i was right. I was only asking if the process was correct and that a chart i had from the kill everyone book had stated. Your explanation and the posts from Gary earlier are fine. I understand them and ty for the explanations.
Just had a look at your hh for that T. Key hand 7, even with icm and new t odds of pot odd/bubble factor AQs was still a good enough hand to play. You said you were aiming for third and thought BB would have to call so why not shove. Doesn't it provide fold equity v the big stack who would leave it to you to knock out bb, i'd have thought then and even if bb folds then he's on life support. Shove for me but i'm a 'BOOKBOT' i've just found out after getting half way through my latest one!!!!
I must admit, i'm surprised mishmash calls AI for 20+BB's with 85s in sb. I don't understand that one myself andif it correct then its back to the drawing board for me.
Also you 10bb ai from sb w/ k30 and called with 78s. Are these normal/standard?(i've not looked at the nash charts) No wonder i keep blinding myself down!
Good read m8...
No updates from me yet for Wednesday or Friday, I'll merge them!
2 small losing sessions, not much happened on Wednesday at all, I think I lost about 20 quid playing roller and BH sats, really no talking points at all.
Friday I decided to play a cash session. Instead of waiting for 8pm I started around 5ish and played for a couple of hours.
I found it really difficult to multi table during that session. I loaded 6x 30nl as always, I've been doing this for years when playing cash, never really had any problems. Are we getting less time to make decisions?
I feel really rushed all the time.
Maybe it's because I'm not used to thinking in 'cash mode' and therefore my thought process is slower, when previously they'd have been instinctive.
I think I'm going to drop to 4 to begin sessions in future.
Previously have played 9 on sky comfortably, but always considered 6 to be the 'optimum' number of tables for me. Will see how 4 goes next time.
Lots of new players @ 30nl. Some good, some bad, some older ones have improved loads, some older ones are still exactly the same. It's much harder work than it used to be. Obviously playing 5pm - 8pm instead of 11pm - 4am isn't going to help that.
The session itself started bad, I felt abit unlucky to be 2 buyins down early, was getting in awkward spots with 'big on big' confrontations going against me.
JJ < KK v super agro guy.
QQ < AA when I 3b and he flatted OOP. Owned me.
Felt I was playing well though, v some tough players who were mixing it up against me. Having an agro dynamic with every single reg on every single table probably doesn't help my multi-tabling issues.
Would be rude not share this hand, always like to get as much advertising equity as I possibly can out of donk plays
All that for £4.95. sigh.
Spose I should show myself getting owned for balance.
Not sure what villain could have had here. I suq!
Maybe his nothing was better than my nothing. And he knew it. nh.
I broke almost dead even @ cash, making 90pence! ha. Felt good to get out even.
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Anyway today is the last day of the cash promo I believe? It will be interesting to see if these new players stick around, or if they were just here for the promotion.
I'm going to leave them to it today, I imagine alot of them will be putting in a huge Sunday cash grind to scrap for last minute points to get up the cash promo table.
It would be nice to see some kind of promo based on win rate. Obviously with a minimum no. of hands required to qualify.
I'm not sure if people would like this, especially if the results are made public? Will give away who the best players are, but everyone knows who they are anyway, so I dunno?
Could it work? hmmmmm.
Loads of sport today, gonna chill out with a crate of beer and donk about in MTTs. Sundays r terrible for me traditionally, pressure off today would be nice to change that.
Not guna hold my breath tho.
GL Murray in this tie break (and the rest of the match), England closing out the consolation win in India, and all diary readers on your Sunday grind!
Weds loss £20
Fri loss £30 (mtts/sngs)
Profit +95
Points 1309
Unusual time for an update, but I've been offline most of the day and will be busy before the session tomorrow so here goes.
Eventful Sunday to say the least!
It started with an MTT win! wiiiiiiiiii.
Sounds alot better than it actually was, it was just a small 180 runner 2 euro turbo rebuy on stars.fr, which I took down for around 150 euros.
I was running deep in a couple of other comps on the real PS site, cashed in a rebuy but it was only small, having blown a massive stack, had like 150xbb 2 hours in @ 300/600, ran KK into AA pre, and that kinda tilted me abit. Didn't play terrible but things just went against me.
Anyway, on to sky. sighhhh.
This pretty much sums up how things have gone for me on Sky this month.
There were obviously lots of Super Sats running for the super roller. They were £6, 1 in 20 jobs, with 2 seats gtd.
Ofc being the day of the tournament itself, there was lots of interest, and the guarentees were smashed, meaning no overlay.
But very top heavy structures got my attention and I entered 2 of them within 15 minutes of eachother, starting around 6-30ish.
I've reg'd the super roller in advance, hoping to take the £110 value of the seat, rather than the seat itself.
An hour in, and I'm running very well, sitting near the top of the leaderboard in both.
It's 7-30, and I'm 1st/9 left in one, and 3rd/11 in the other, with 3 seats gtd in both (60 runners).
Suddenly I start panicking, as I realise the start of the roller is 8pm, and not 9pm, like the usual rollers are.
Oh sh!t! I hope they end in time. I check the lobby, to see how fast the levels go up, and I'm still quite confident they will.
Gets to about 7-45, and we're on the bubble in game 1, and FT of game 2.
I'm short in game 1, sitting 4th of 3, with 3 seats. This 1 is gtd to finish in time, I'd love to take this down and lock up at least £110, then try and push in the 2nd game which I pretty much have locked up.
Unfortunately, it didn't work out, and I was the bubble boy.
I'm 1st/5 remaining in the 2nd sat, with a huge chip advantage!
There's 15 minutes left to the start of the roller, we should easily get this done in time.
5 minutes later, we're still 5 handed, with the 3 seats up for grabs. I'm starting to worry now, the blinds are big, the stacks are short, I'm pushing very wide but everyone keeps folding and taking chips off eachother to stay afloat.
***Horrific moment of realisation***
OMG there's a 5 minute break in 4 minutes, I have 4 minutes to get this over with or I'm going to be late registered into the roller!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PUSH NEXT HAND ANY 2.
DOUBLE SUM1 UP.
PUSH NEXT HAND WITH JUNK.
FOLDS
PUSH NEXT HAND DOUBLE SUM1 UP.
I'm now not even comfortable myself, but keep pushing, I have no choice, I cannot play the roller!!!!
FOLDS
MORE FOLDS
STOP FIN FOLDING.
2 minutes to go, it's not going to happen is it?
Shorty gets it in, called, I can fold and hope, he busts, then the last hand b4 the break, shove any 2 myself.
shorty doubles.
omg.
I give up. There is no way this can possibly end before 7-55.
Best case scenario, I manage to get through this now tight bubble and get automatically entered into the roller.
Worst case scenario, I bubble again.
I really don't think the best case scenario is much better than the worst case here. They're just 2 disasterous scenarios.
I spose the advantage is 100 poker points. yippeeeee.
I'm absolutely gutted.
20 minutes ago, I was in great shape, looking at 2x returns of £110 for 2x £6 investments.
I've ended up with a bubble, and a seat I didn't want, that I have no intentions of using.
On to the roller.....
I played properly for about 6 minutes, won 1 hand with AK, folded quite alot.
Then decided there was no way I could do this and play through 6+ hours of nit folding etc.
Thought I'd try a my own unique mtt strategy, of shoving all in every hand, trying to maybe get my stack up from 10k to 40/50k just by plain gambling.
Then sit out, log off/close the table for a few hours, then come back and hope I am still in contention for a min-cash around the bubble.
Unfortunately it didn't work out.
Nice start for 1 lucky runner. lol
And just incase people think I'm making excuses etc and I just played the hand bad....
Was pretty tilted by the whole sattellite disaster after that, so didn't play anymore.
Lesson learnt.
I spose the old schoolers who believe sats should be used only by people who want to play the actual tournament will be laughing reading this saying it serves me right.
I have to agree with them, my own fault for entering the sats when I wasn't even aware of the start time of the actual event!
Live and learn, sums up a frustrating January for me!
It's 'Turbo Tuesday' tomorrow, the first time I will have a chance to join in, so looking forward to that. Hopefully I can continue to beat the super sats and get myself in some big turbo comps!
can't do the math but it is worth it - is there an mtt that compares
been trying reg then sat route and de reg myself
lols at the MTT starting before the sat ends
wally