Cheers Dev. ------------------------- Pretty ridic first day back, only played 3 mtts. £11 BH. exit hand. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance thebookie2 Small blind 15.00 15.00 2875.00 A1FOZZIE Big blind 30.00 45.00 1720.00 Your hole cards A A DOHHHHHHH Raise 90.00 135.00 512.50 Carlous Call 90.00 225.00 2645.00 Deciet Fold Karnage Call 90.00 315.00 1800.00 thebookie2 Call 75.00 390.00 2800.00 A1FOZZIE Call 60.00 450.00 1660.00 Flop 8 9 6 thebookie2 Check A1FOZZIE Bet 450.00 900.00 1210.00 DOHHHHHHH All-in 512.50 1412.50 0.00 Carlous Fold Karnage All-in 1800.00 3212.50 0.00 thebookie2 Fold A1FOZZIE All-in 1210.00 4422.50 0.00 Karnage Unmatched bet 140.00 4282.50 140.00 A1FOZZIE Show A 9 DOHHHHHHH Show A A Karnage Show J 10 Turn Q River 7 Karnage Win Straight to the Queen 4282.50 4422.50 £5.75 BH, exit hand. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance gaz36 Small blind 30.00 30.00 1522.50 thebookie2 Big blind 60.00 90.00 3705.00 Your hole cards A A samjt120 Fold garden Fold atomicman Fold DOHHHHHHH Raise 180.00 270.00 1295.00 gaz36 Fold thebookie2 All-in 3705.00 3975.00 0.00 DOHHHHHHH All-in 1295.00 5270.00 0.00 thebookie2 Unmatched bet 2290.00 2980.00 2290.00 thebookie2 Show K A DOHHHHHHH Show A A Flop K 5 K Turn 9 River 2 thebookie2 Win Three Kings 2980.00 5270.00 New £2.20 500 gtd rebuy, this is the worst of the freeeeeeeeeeee. exit hand. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance jmc64 Small blind 200.00 200.00 14295.00 baldie14 Big blind 400.00 600.00 4290.00 Your hole cards A A ParaNorm Raise 800.00 1400.00 15030.00 DOHHHHHHH Raise 2000.00 3400.00 13850.22 jackand3 Fold jalupen101 Fold jmc64 Fold baldie14 All-in 4290.00 7690.00 0.00 ParaNorm Call 3890.00 11580.00 11140.00 DOHHHHHHH Raise 7200.00 18780.00 6650.22 ParaNorm Call 4510.00 23290.00 6630.00 Flop 9 K J ParaNorm All-in 6630.00 29920.00 0.00 DOHHHHHHH Call 6630.00 36550.00 20.22 baldie14 Show A 10 ParaNorm Show K 9 DOHHHHHHH Show A A Turn 3 River 6 ParaNorm Win Two Pairs, Kings and 9s 36550.00 36550.00 So that was for a 37k stack, nearly 100xbb @ 200/400. Wud have had almost double 2nd place again with 50 odd left and £150 up top. eiopjiejouighuoewhugohewuhght Knew it wud happen today, momentum is a killer when it's against u! bby etc etc etc apdojfkpijaeivj bla bla bla lol. fuuuuu pkr! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
i find it hard to play poker when each time yu play you have a loosing session. ( due to bad beats) im currently on the down and find it so hard to play atm, as i am just waiting for the cooler again to knock me confidence down again , I dont feel that great when opening poker up atm in fear of loosing alot more
Sky have agreed to trial my idea of introducing fast paced heads up sit and gos. As a condition, I will be writing a diary, with my results and general thoughts on the games which have been introduced to the sit n go lobby this morning. Hu sngs aren't for everybody, so this hyper version is going to appeal to a niche market. 1) Turbo dym players. 2) Action junkee's 3) Cash 4 points grinders & priotrity club hopefuls. Theres a common mis-conception amongst poker players, that short stacks and fast blinds leads to "bingo poker". The "sit and DOH" HU sngs, allow for a period of 8 minutes play, before the average stack drops below 10xbb. In online poker, that is still alot of hands. Admittedly, the variance is gonna be high, but with low rake, and high volume, so can your ROI. They are also fun, and will allow for rapid accumilation of poker points, to push myself, and others towards priority. -------------------------- The aim of this diary is to record my results throughout the trial period, and hopefully show people that these games can be profitable. I'd urge everyone to have a shot at playing a few of these, if you have a spare 15 minutes, in the hope of converting you'z into HU hyper action junkeeeees! Anyway good luck if you decide to try them. Hopefully they'll be around for a while. P.S, the name certainly was not my idea! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
stop trying to justify your need for bingo poker, all these super turbo, super dooper ultra speed combo turbo hyper dash short stack garbage gets on my goat! they have no place on a poker site, give these bingo ladies their own site where they can play with like minded frumpy bingo ladies......"the format gives you 8 minutes of play" before it gets silly....WOOPDIDOO!!!! thats garbage, call it exciting, call it action, call it what you like but whatever you do, dont call it poker because its just not right
I've been away for xmas and new year and came back to my fav diary. Very brave of you to post the bad cash losses plus hands. Too many players like to big up their play. You tell it as it is and it's appreciated. God 55 all-in pre is 'brave' play for that much cash mate! For some reason, your bad beats seem to get more of a "aaaaah" effect rather than " and so...!" from me as it shows that experience can not always evade a swerve ball, as it were. Those AA hands esp the AA vAk i've had too and i'm not sure whether tapping it into pokerstove is comforting or not then eh/ Anyway, D, have a great 2013. sue and i are off on a six week cruise in a short while which unfortunately has poker on board...sigh!!! All the best....
'whats the most amount money you blown in a day' - thread, would be interesting lol may even make you feel better ,
The most (so far) i have blown in a day is $1.2k fancying my luck in big buy in tourneys, nl200 etc, I got so sick that i lost a good chunk of my roll (this was back in 2011) i did not play poker for a good few months after, 4-5 months i think.
I hope you stick to it mate (and the thread), this was my only regret, i do not regret taking a few shots though.
In Response to "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : stop trying to justify your need for bingo poker, all these super turbo, super dooper ultra speed combo turbo hyper dash short stack garbage gets on my goat! they have no place on a poker site, give these bingo ladies their own site where they can play with like minded frumpy bingo ladies......"the format gives you 8 minutes of play" before it gets silly....WOOPDIDOO!!!! thats garbage, call it exciting, call it action, call it what you like but whatever you do, dont call it poker because its just not right Posted by SIMMIE1988
If there's a skill edge (which there is) then it aint just bingo, plain and simple. Not sure why you've posted a reply to a comment from abuot 12 months ago but do some research and you'll see there are some people making a pretty sick amount of money from HU Hypers
Haven't posted for a few days, because I've not really played anything on Sky, I've been grinding away in the afternoon elsewhere looking for an MTT bink.
I've gotten close a few times, the tournaments on .fr really suit me, loads of 6max and 6max turbos.
It's frustrating but the standard is so bad that I actually feel I have an edge and a bink is coming soon! Watch this space
In the 3 sessions I've done since the last update I've played the sky BH's @ 2pm (£11) and 2.30pm (5.75)
I'm so jinxed in these! ha.
4 of the 6 tournaments I've busted within the first blind level!!!!
Got deepish in both yesterday but no luck.
Played some hypers and other stuff here too, but haven't got a record of how much I won/lost. Will have to rely on skope for the stats to update at the end, will ammend later.
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Anyway, yesterday I went back to play cash!!!
Started about 8-15ish, and played until just before midnight (until I ran out of beer ()
6 tables of 30nl like I used to do all the time. Wish I had the will power and concentratio to play cash more often.
I'm far from the best player at these levels nowardays, back in the day I could have possibly claimed to be up there with the best 3/4 regs @ 30nl, but I've stood still whilst other players have improved and am now probably not even in the top 10.
That doesn't mean I can't win though, and there are loads of fish flying around!
My playing style is still pretty erratic, and I get into reg-wars which probably isn't the best line to take when they're better than me.
Just been over the hand histories, and there are 3 pots of nailed on 'spew'.
Couple of coolers, and 3/4 losses above 50xbb where I've just stationed off.
The calling station thing, isn't so tough to deal with, that's just me being a donk.
The spew is worrying though. Gonna post a few hands, maybe get some feedback.
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Hand 1
This is against a good winning reg. Probably on the tight side, but not a total nit like some.
He will view me as very aggressive and probably spewy.
meh, hate it already now I've said that.
Any thoughts on my line?
Deep enough to call pre, 'implied odds' blah blah.
Sigh, just fold flop dohhhhhhhhhhh.
As played though? sizing? can I get him to fold stuff? BOMB river???????
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
RUPES
Small blind
£0.15
£0.15
£31.36
xxx
Big blind
£0.30
£0.45
£64.76
Your hole cards
8
8
SLICKYANDY
Fold
AJ_Rockets
Fold
stacker59
Fold
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
£0.90
£1.35
£77.08
RUPES
Fold
xxx
Raise
£3.00
£4.35
£61.76
DOHHHHHHH
Call
£2.40
£6.75
£74.68
Flop
7
A
K
xxx
Bet
£3.60
£10.35
£58.16
DOHHHHHHH
Call
£3.60
£13.95
£71.08
Turn
4
xxx
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
£9.90
£23.85
£61.18
xxx
Call
£9.90
£33.75
£48.26
River
5
xxx
Check
DOHHHHHHH
Bet
£23.10
£56.85
£38.08
xxx
Hand 2
Another winning reg, more of a laggy style and have a very aggressive dynamic going on. I've 3b his late position opens alot this session and in the past.
3b/fold?
3b/5b? too optimistic?
He can def 4b bluff here.
Don't even know if I'm shipping for value or what. I think I do okay against his 4b/call range and he folds to the shove sometimes too.
Thoughts?
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
DOHHHHHHH
Small blind
£0.15
£0.15
£32.82
slow1
Big blind
£0.30
£0.45
£16.06
Your hole cards
A
10
bolly580
Fold
normarg
Fold
xxx
Raise
£0.90
£1.35
£32.49
DOHHHHHHH
Raise
£3.00
£4.35
£29.82
slow1
Fold
xxx
Raise
£7.10
£11.45
£25.39
DOHHHHHHH
All-in
£29.82
£41.27
£0.00
xxx
Call
£24.97
£66.24
£0.42
DOHHHHHHH
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Had a 3rd hand but not gonna bother with that 1, looks standard. Might do if these get some interest.
Anyway despite the above spew and some more on top, it was a successful and enjoyable return to the tables, once I got going.
I just hope I can find the motivation to play again tomorrow, because it's by far my most profitable form of poker. It always has been.
Jan totals. Profit +£173 (roughly, to be ammended later) Points 448
Rofl, epic A10 hand. 3 outs let's go! Fwiw I think A10 does fairly well against a btn opening range and would flat more then 3bet especially if the 50bb stack in the BB is a fish. Posted by NColley
post 3rd hand imo. wanna lol some more Posted by percival09
Thanx for the feedback guys
haha.
tbf, I know it's bad. For every buy in I spack off, showing it here prob gets me half of it back with a couple of loose calls, might as well post it up and show everyone how bad I am.
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When I was playing on Monday, I had 6 tables, lined up in 2 columns of 3, as usual.
I noticed I was playing much much looser on the top 2 tables, abit tighter on the middle 2, then very nitty on the bottom 2.
Does anyone else find anything like this?
I struggle to 6 table still, partly because I'm playing alot of hands, so if I'm in a big pot on 1 I totally neglect the other 5 and often end up sat out.
It's also IMPOSSIBLE to make notes on here in mini view, and also very difficult to look back over HH's whilst playing on. grrrr.
Didn't start till 2pm yesterday, I had to get up early for a delivery, so was running on only 4 hours sleep, 3-30am till 7-30am.
Was in 2 minds wether or not I should play at all, but I felt 'ok' and thought once I got going I'd be alright.
Played a few tournaments in the afternoon as usual. Just lol-worthy stuff happening in the sky BHs again. Starting tomorrow (or Saturday, depending which day I play) I'm gonna start live updating the 2pm and 2.30 BHs on this thread. I will continue with this until I've got at least to the final 3 in each tournament.
Wouldn't believe some of the stuff that happens in those. Hopefully live updating here might bring a change of fortune.
Got to about 7pm and I was considering calling it a day. Was feeling pretty tired, and wanted to eat and sleep.
Had had a few beers though, and thought if I got 6 tabling I could power on through and get at least a few hours in.
Cash started slow, tables were tight and most players were solid. Tried to get some stuff going and get some players to loosen up and make mistakes but nothing seemed to happen.
I made a play v some semi-unknown guy who seemed quite tight/passive. I put pressure on his full stack on a TTxxx board, after he had 3bet pre, pretty sure he had an overpair.....
He did, but managed to call off for stacks. I had to have a 10 right!!! lol oufhouejfcer
After that I started getting abit tilty, playing way too many hands, barrelling too many turns, and worst of all, calling too much!
Lost a £60 flip too QQ < AK which could have kickstarted the session but I couldn't see any way I could make anything back with me playing as I was and the tables as they were so just called it a day.
Had some food, and fell asleep about 11pm. Woke up at 1pm.
14 hours sleep!!! Don't think I've ever done that before, obv needed it.
Good news is I should be ready for a big Friday session.
Bad news is, being a donk off the table has cost me almost all of the profit from the previous session and got me almost even again for the month.
You seem to have such a good grip on how you are playing. The two columns of boards and how yu play looser top to bottom is a vg eg. You've been playing for a fair amount of time. If you had a timeline of your time in poker, how would you delineate the time to identify say when you felt your grounding was good with fundamentals, when your confidence peaked, when you thought your learnig was getting towards the advanced stage. However, you want. I see some people's sharkscope graphs and after 1000 to 2000 games a player may get a good win and then there seems to be a gradual positive incline in their winnings probably from increased confidence. Would you say there's a period of time that players need to find their game or the confidence to play properly?
Bad times yesterday! I'm gonna make excuses obviously....Didn't start till 2pm yesterday, I had to get up early for a delivery, so was running on only 4 hours sleep, 3-30am till 7-30am. Was in 2 minds wether or not I should play at all, but I felt 'ok' and thought once I got going I'd be alright. Played a few tournaments in the afternoon as usual. Just lol-worthy stuff happening in the sky BHs again. Starting tomorrow (or Saturday, depending which day I play) I'm gonna start live updating the 2pm and 2.30 BHs on this thread. I will continue with this until I've got at least to the final 3 in each tournament. Wouldn't believe some of the stuff that happens in those. Hopefully live updating here might bring a change of fortune. Got to about 7pm and I was considering calling it a day. Was feeling pretty tired, and wanted to eat and sleep. Had had a few beers though, and thought if I got 6 tabling I could power on through and get at least a few hours in. Cash started slow, tables were tight and most players were solid. Tried to get some stuff going and get some players to loosen up and make mistakes but nothing seemed to happen. I made a play v some semi-unknown guy who seemed quite tight/passive. I put pressure on his full stack on a TTxxx board, after he had 3bet pre, pretty sure he had an overpair..... He did, but managed to call off for stacks. I had to have a 10 right!!! lol oufhouejfcer After that I started getting abit tilty, playing way too many hands, barrelling too many turns, and worst of all, calling too much! Lost a £60 flip too QQ < AK which could have kickstarted the session but I couldn't see any way I could make anything back with me playing as I was and the tables as they were so just called it a day. Had some food, and fell asleep about 11pm. Woke up at 1pm. 14 hours sleep!!! Don't think I've ever done that before, obv needed it. Good news is I should be ready for a big Friday session. Bad news is, being a donk off the table has cost me almost all of the profit from the previous session and got me almost even again for the month. Back under pressure again!!!!!!!!!! Jan totals. Profit +£35 Points 558 Posted by DOHHHHHHH
Love your diary dohhh and updates good or bad ......but long term if you lose £80 in a session from lack of sleep because you won't pay £5 delivery charge at a sane time of day for groceries or whatever, in the short or long term is baddddddd for profit and sanity. Pay for delivery!, at a time convenient to YOU! Get them to deliver before any multi tabling session,so at least the strongbows and pizzas are ready to open/eat at will!
In Response to Re: "Sit & DOHHHHHHH Diary" : Love your diary dohhh and updates good or bad ......but long term if you lose £80 in a session from lack of sleep because you won't pay £5 delivery charge at a sane time of day for groceries or whatever, in the short or long term is baddddddd for profit and sanity. Pay for delivery!, at a time convenient to YOU! Get them to deliver before any multi tabling session,so at least the strongbows and pizzas are ready to open/eat at will! Posted by Any2Suited
Cheerz Dave, nice to see you on the thread.
Yea Wednesday was a total coque up. Bad off the table decisions costing £££, same old story been doing it for years
Up early again this time on purpose to watch the cricket, been a frustrating morning, tuned in @ 110/0 off 19 overs, and seen the innings go stop/start ever since.
England have so much going their way in ODI/T20 cricket, it's like we've been so close, but so far away for the last 5 years.
We need someone @ 6/7/8 who is capable of hitting 40 off 20. Don't have to be prolific run scorers, just have to be capable of taking the game away from the opponents.
Afridi/Pollard type player.
Think we have 1 too, in Jos Butler.
Fed up of Keiswetter now, he's had alot of opportunity and imo if we're going to bat our wicket-keeper @ 6, he shouldn't even be in our top 3 for that role (Butler, Prior, Bairstow all better options).
Don't think Root is the man to bat 5 either. I'm a massive fan of his, but don't think he's dynamic or powerful enough for limited overs international cricket. He will prob play 75+ test matches though, quality.
Let's go with...
Cook
Hayles.
KP.
Morgan.
Bell.
Patel
Butler
Who would fancy bowling at that top 7!!!!!!!
Anyway, dispite making 300 here, I fear we are still 2nd favourites to win this match. India could knock these off inside 45 overs. Hope I'm wrong.
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While I'm on a sport rant, might as well comment on the managerial situation @ Donny.
Personally I'm glad to see the back of Dean Saunders.
Yes we're joint top of the league, somehow, but he doesn't seem to have a clue. Our league position is flattering, and I fear Wolves will end up the same as we did when he came in last season.
Relegated!
Short term it's probably not the best for us, as things are going well and we're grinding out results, but long term it's a get out of jail free card for us imo.
Potential replacements?
I've not heard him mentioned at all yet, but would love to see Steve Kean given the job!
Bet the Blackburn fans r lolling @ that......
Think there was a massive over-reaction @ Blackburn and actually thought he did quite well in impossible circumstances.
He also started this season really well with them in the championship. Ofc they sacked him when he was doing well (wtf) and they've hardly won a game since.
Would like to see him given a chance to prove the Blackburn fans wrong, and It would be awesome if he could do that with us!
He's 50/1 though
Some of the names at the top of the betting are quite baffling. Paul Dickov in charge of a struggling Oldham is 16/1 2nd favourite, wtf?
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Anyway, looking forward to a good days poker today. Hoping to get that MTT win I've been looking for.
Maybe it will be in the 2x sky BH's, tune in at 2pm for the first of my 'live tourny updates' lol. Could be eventful.
At least 1 update per hour @ 2-55 and probably more if I have time inbetween breaks.
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Good luck all pokering and gambling this weekend!
P.S, whilst I've been typing this Samit has smashed 44 off 20!!!!!!!!!!
Hey man.Havent posted on your thread before,so forgive me if this has been already asked.Would like your opinion on the transition from playin hypers and various other speed games to havin a crack at tournies.I assume the faster games are more to your liking,bit like myself.Do you have any problem adapting to a slightly longer format or is it a case of playin your own game whatever the structure.Havin a big problem with tournies atm.Cant seem to get goin if I dont make a good start 1st or 2nd level.Apologies for the waffle man.
Hey man.Havent posted on your thread before,so forgive me if this has been already asked.Would like your opinion on the transition from playin hypers and various other speed games to havin a crack at tournies.I assume the faster games are more to your liking,bit like myself.Do you have any problem adapting to a slightly longer format or is it a case of playin your own game whatever the structure.Havin a big problem with tournies atm.Cant seem to get goin if I dont make a good start 1st or 2nd level.Apologies for the waffle man. Cheers for any input. Paul Posted by bignoise10
Hey bignoise.
Is your alias a play on "big nose"?
That would be more suited to young gun imo.
The transition from HU sngs to tournaments hasn't been mentioned at all I don't think throughout the thread.
You're right, when playing tournaments I do much prefer the speed/turbo formats as opposed to the longer freezeouts, which can last 5 hours +.
It's not so much the actual game play I struggle with, coming from a cash background before I started playing sngs, I'm comfortable playing deepstacked poker with lots of bb's and tight players to deal with.
It's more the mental side of concentrating for long periods of time. And also problems handling the varience.
For example if I enter a 200 runner turbo mtt, and bust on the bubble, it's around 80/90 minutes work for nothing.
If I enter a 200 runner freezeout or deepstack mtt, you're looking at more of a 3 hour grind for the same 'nothing'.
MTTs require great mental strength imo, and anyone who plays them for anything more than recreation deserves high praise, because the ups and downs are insane. You have to maintain a high level of performance every single time and be patient enough for the variance to even out and shine on you, which can often take months.
It's also easier to stay focussed and concentrate for 2 hours (turbo mtt) than it is for 5+ hours (standard structure mtt).
Alot of people mistakenly see turbo mtts as bingo poker, where they assume it's just a lottery and very little skill. This ofc is wrong, and it's attittudes like this that make the turbo games very beatable, people play them badly, either because they don't believe there is skill, or they can't be bothered to learn the skills required.
They're very popular all over the big online poker sites, and will continue to become more popular. I think this time next year there will be lots of good turbos on Sky too, they're just starting to put a few in, and as they are supported I'm sure we'll see more.
I can't really give any strategy tips for the mtts you're playing, a good start is nice, but it isn't that big a deal. Just be patient, and learn to play a 20xbb stack properly. Having played you @ alot of HU sngs I'm sure you're already competent here, but if you have half an hour to do some research it's worth just fine tuning your short stacked game. Have to remain patient in the early stages, and just play your cards and the table as best as you can.
You might not be doing anything wrong at all, and just not having things go your way. This is totally normal and the reason that I (and many others) struggle with mtt play.
It's not neccesserily the challenges on the table that are difficult to overcome, but those off it!
Hope things turn for you though, just have to keep hoping that 'today is the day!'
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fwiw there are better mtt players than me with diaries on the forum.
I'm sure if you ask Tommyd, garyqqq, patwalshh, all are more experienced than me on standard sky mtts and will be able to give you some specific mtt advice.
Intresting you mention motivation and desire. At what point did you just stop wanting to move up the level and settle for your cash level. I only ask because when I was playing nl4 all I wanted to do was move up and play as high as possible. Just before xmas I was at a point where I was going to play NL50 and just thought, I can't be asked ! So I withdraw a chunk for xmas etc... yes it was a good xmas - thanks. But now I am just going back to nl10 for a little bit. Mainly because I just find the motivation and feel like you say above, my concentration, patience and discpline seem to be falling way short over the last couple of months and I am just not performing to a level I should be. Even though away from the tables I seem to think about poker situations a lot better. My thought process is a lot clearer and concise, while at the tables it seems to not be as sharp just because I am not thinking enough while in the hand. This could be just the boredom of the routine standard poker, which lets face it is 90% of the time your playing poker ) but anyway...sry for slight derail just intrested in your journey as I seem to be at a bit of juncture with poker. Posted by rancid
Slow to reply here, apologies Rancid, been a weird few days.
Bolded bit....
No secret to anyone whos been playing on sky regular, or readers here, that I've never really consistantly beat a level above 30nl.
As I said in my previous post I was once very optimistic about playing poker for alot more than recreation. About 2 years ago, I was in a good position, properly hammering the 30nl level and winning money almost at will.
Sky was alot softer back then. (yes, even softer than it is now). There were like 2/3 good regs back then, in fact I can name them, ozzie08, scotty77(look at him now), corbett04, and Fins was pretty solid also.
Then there were good players who would occasionally drop down from 50/40nl, like tommyd. And players who very occasionally played (when I was on), like Dylan12 & ricorambo.
But that's like a handful of players, everyone else was truly awful. It was 'fill your boots time' almost literally, a time to cash in and just build build build your bankroll as much as you liked really.
That's the line I decided to take, I was already playing 100 buy ins + when I started 30nl, and towards the end of the 'golden spell' I was playing with maybe 400-500 buy ins (after taking chunks from it at least once/twice per month).
I remember I once won 3k in a month playing mainly 30nl with bits and bobs of late night 40/50nl thrown in. Older forum members might remember me bragging about this in every other post when I was 'the forum idiot'. Again, abit like idcu is/does now
But, I missed a trick. Even back then I was only averaging 5k points per month. I was still only ever playing every other day, and still only when I was drunk. I was playing alot more though, cash sessions often lasted from 9pm to 7/8am.
I'm not sure how soft the tables on sky are at 3/4am nowardays, as I pass out after 14 beers, but back then, it was amazing. Like freeplay tables at times.
Anyway, back to the question, my plan was always long term with poker. Whilst the going was so good @ 30nl I just wanted to build my bankroll as much as I could, so I had the best possible launching pad for when I moved up.
I don't neccesserily regret that, but I do regret not playing more. I got in to the routine of only playing when I was drinking, this probably cost me thousands. Obviously it's a really bad habit, on so many levels. lolol.
The 2nd mistake was staying at 30nl too long. I spent ages crushing it, building this 'cushion' that I wanted before moving up. But I wasn't improving, I was just playing poor players and not challenging myself. I failed to recognise the right time to properly move up and take on 50nl. All the good books/videos now reccommend an aggressive BRM strategy and advocate shot taking whenever possible, using 'stop losses' etc.
It's not like I never played 50nl, pretty much crushed it, and occasionally 100nl whenever I had shots. But again this was through the night when the 50nl standard was even worse than the 30nl daytime standard. So again I wasn't challenging myself, and therefore wasn't improving.
Sooo...
" At what point did you just stop wanting to move up the level and settle for your cash level."
After about 9/10 months of grinding and beating 30nl I settled for 30nl as 'my cash level'. Another 6/7 months after that I gave up cash altogether and started playing HU sngs.
Inevitably, got bored of that when I got to £21 buy in games (which I beat comfortably with around a 4% ROI).
At least I took some shots @ £30/40/50 in this format (albeit drunken/tilty ones) and got totally crushed, alas, 9 months after starting, that was the end of that.
Have a real problem 'taking it to the next level'
It's really hard! :P
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I reckon if you asked 100 people of my age who have been playing poker 5/6 years, what their biggest poker regret is, alot will say "not playing more when I was younger". ha.
Those were good times @ the tables! If I'd have done the right things back then, who knows where I'd be now! Maybe still at 30nl, I dunno! lol.
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You have it alot tougher now. Grinding up through the levels is still doable ofc, but it's a much slower process. People play so much tighter and more risk averse. I've played/watched some 10nl and it's soooooooo boring. 20nl isn't much better, and then @ 30nl there's at least 8/9 tough regs. And even alot of the fish aren't like massive fish like back in't day.
I don't even know what 40/50nl is like, but I bet it aint much fun either!
It's a long slow process, I know you're not scared of volume after the cash promo thing, so if you have the time I'm sure you'll get to, and compete at 30nl pretty soon. After that, who knows.
30nl isn't far off $50nl though! It's not the worst level to get stuck at tbf
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Cheers Dev.
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Pretty ridic first day back, only played 3 mtts.
£11 BH. exit hand.
exit hand.
Wud have had almost double 2nd place again with 50 odd left and £150 up top.
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Knew it wud happen today, momentum is a killer when it's against u!
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Unlucky mate, pretty sick to have that in 3/3 MTTs. Get back to the Hypers
I've been away for xmas and new year and came back to my fav diary. Very brave of you to post the bad cash losses plus hands. Too many players like to big up their play. You tell it as it is and it's appreciated. God 55 all-in pre is 'brave' play for that much cash mate!
For some reason, your bad beats seem to get more of a "aaaaah" effect rather than " and so...!" from me as it shows that experience can not always evade a swerve ball, as it were. Those AA hands esp the AA vAk i've had too and i'm not sure whether tapping it into pokerstove is comforting or not then eh/
Anyway, D, have a great 2013. sue and i are off on a six week cruise in a short while which unfortunately has poker on board...sigh!!! All the best....
Haven't posted for a few days, because I've not really played anything on Sky, I've been grinding away in the afternoon elsewhere looking for an MTT bink.
I've gotten close a few times, the tournaments on .fr really suit me, loads of 6max and 6max turbos.
It's frustrating but the standard is so bad that I actually feel I have an edge and a bink is coming soon! Watch this space
In the 3 sessions I've done since the last update I've played the sky BH's @ 2pm (£11) and 2.30pm (5.75)
I'm so jinxed in these! ha.
4 of the 6 tournaments I've busted within the first blind level!!!!
Got deepish in both yesterday but no luck.
Played some hypers and other stuff here too, but haven't got a record of how much I won/lost. Will have to rely on skope for the stats to update at the end, will ammend later.
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Anyway, yesterday I went back to play cash!!!
Started about 8-15ish, and played until just before midnight (until I ran out of beer
6 tables of 30nl like I used to do all the time. Wish I had the will power and concentratio to play cash more often.
I'm far from the best player at these levels nowardays, back in the day I could have possibly claimed to be up there with the best 3/4 regs @ 30nl, but I've stood still whilst other players have improved and am now probably not even in the top 10.
That doesn't mean I can't win though, and there are loads of fish flying around!
My playing style is still pretty erratic, and I get into reg-wars which probably isn't the best line to take when they're better than me.
Just been over the hand histories, and there are 3 pots of nailed on 'spew'.
Couple of coolers, and 3/4 losses above 50xbb where I've just stationed off.
The calling station thing, isn't so tough to deal with, that's just me being a donk.
The spew is worrying though. Gonna post a few hands, maybe get some feedback.
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Hand 1
This is against a good winning reg. Probably on the tight side, but not a total nit like some.
He will view me as very aggressive and probably spewy.
meh, hate it already now I've said that.
Any thoughts on my line?
Deep enough to call pre, 'implied odds' blah blah.
Sigh, just fold flop dohhhhhhhhhhh.
As played though? sizing? can I get him to fold stuff? BOMB river???????
Another winning reg, more of a laggy style and have a very aggressive dynamic going on.
I've 3b his late position opens alot this session and in the past.
3b/fold?
3b/5b? too optimistic?
He can def 4b bluff here.
Don't even know if I'm shipping for value or what. I think I do okay against his 4b/call range and he folds to the shove sometimes too.
Thoughts?
Had a 3rd hand but not gonna bother with that 1, looks standard. Might do if these get some interest.
Anyway despite the above spew and some more on top, it was a successful and enjoyable return to the tables, once I got going.
I just hope I can find the motivation to play again tomorrow, because it's by far my most profitable form of poker. It always has been.
Jan totals.
Profit +£173 (roughly, to be ammended later)
Points 448
Profit +£35
Points 558
You seem to have such a good grip on how you are playing. The two columns of boards and how yu play looser top to bottom is a vg eg. You've been playing for a fair amount of time. If you had a timeline of your time in poker, how would you delineate the time to identify say when you felt your grounding was good with fundamentals, when your confidence peaked, when you thought your learnig was getting towards the advanced stage. However, you want.
I see some people's sharkscope graphs and after 1000 to 2000 games a player may get a good win and then there seems to be a gradual positive incline in their winnings probably from increased confidence. Would you say there's a period of time that players need to find their game or the confidence to play properly?