Well I can assure you the badge was there Stein. I don't know anything about the STTs but I can assure you that there were a number held in the VIP room on the Friday evening before and there were many running on Saturday after the event, I think they were orgranised by TKP/TPT but I do know that various people from Sky and TSP took part in them BTW I would be curious as to how you think best the criteria for keeping membership on TSP be settled? What should be looked for? Posted by scotty77
Scotty I don't doubt you were wearing a sky patch, the point I am trying to make is that it is little wonder Crazyben makes the irrelevant point when at the SPT final the team as a whole were in civvies. If Sky want to make the team more relevant to the larger player pool they need to do more with it and making the better known players available at SPT events would be a good start. If they have no interest in promoting it to the community then the team will continue to be irrelevant to the vast majority, at the end of the day it's Skys team and its up to them wnat they do with it.
As for the STT's in the VIP room we were there until 1 am on Saturday night and they passed us by, we heard no announcement, were not informed by anyone that they were running and we asked the DTD staff about Sky STT's and were told nothing was running. It is good of TK to organise a few STT's ad hoc but these should be done formally to add something to the event, nor should it be left to TPT to organise their own at a Sky branded event.
Honestly I have no idea what the criteria for staying on the team should be, but if I were Sky I'd cut the pretence and keep the members who rake the most on as these are the players who generate the most bonus and thus create the biggest live tourney entry rolls. Final tabling a GUKPT has such a huge luck element when most get only one shot at it, whatever the criteria it would be better it was known as it would remove the mystic.
Scotty u got it locked up unless everyone is losing there's imo
Stein i saw loads of TSP players wearing their badges u must need glasses/or better ones
i think it is a great scheme but like dohhh has said would be better to take option in cash but then again i can understand why there isn't btw as the main purpose is so they play live events with a sky hoodie/logo although i would defo take opportunity of playing GUKPT/ watever over the 1k even though it is alot of money to me and my bankroll at the moment
Scotty u got it locked up unless everyone is losing there's imo Stein i saw loads of TSP players wearing their badges u must need glasses/or better ones i think it is a great scheme but like dohhh has said would be better to take option in cash but then again i can understand why there isn't btw as the main purpose is so they play live events with a sky hoodie/logo although i would defo take opportunity of playing GUKPT/ watever over the 1k even though it is alot of money to me and my bankroll at the moment Posted by YOUNG_GUN
Obv I saw the badges on some but then you go and say it..........sky hoodie. They have a stand out uniform and then none of them wear it at a Sky event?? I don't care either way, the point I'm trying to make is that if Sky want the team to be relevant they have to make more of an effort, they could do alot more with these players for the benefit of us all as Sky players, Sky as a brand and for the team itself. If they don't want the team to be relevant to the wider community they can just carry on as they are.
These events are still amateurish outside of the main event which was excellent. Sky is too big a brand for TK, TPT/TKP or Machka to be organising side events ad hoc at branded events, players booked hotels and committed to two days in Nottingham for this event and after they exit the main event there should be side events professionally laid on for players. In addition Sky staff should be looking after all their customers and informing them of what is on, when it is happening and where it is taking place.
thats a completely different matter what your talking about thats not down to TSP players and i do agree about the STT i didnt hear anything on friday so proceeded to just get drunk sigh
i think we have gone of topic there a bit and there defeinately needs to be wider coverage eg. whos on the team when they're next playing an event, how long till there contract is up for renewal although can understand if they want to be personal with people on this matter
In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : Obv I saw the badges on some but then you go and say it..........sky hoodie. They have a stand out uniform and then none of them wear it at a Sky event?? I don't care either way, the point I'm trying to make is that if Sky want the team to be relevant they have to make more of an effort, they could do alot more with these players for the benefit of us all as Sky players, Sky as a brand and for the team itself. If they don't want the team to be relevant to the wider community they can just carry on as they are. These events are still amateurish outside of the main event which was excellent. Sky is too big a brand for TK, TPT/TKP or Machka to be organising side events ad hoc at branded events, players booked hotels and committed to two days in Nottingham for this event and after they exit the main event there should be side events professionally laid on for players. In addition Sky staff should be looking after all their customers and informing them of what is on, when it is happening and where it is taking place. Posted by stien
This was announced prior to the SPT at DTD…
Firstly two tables will be provided by DTD to run Sky Poker SNGs rake free. Whether these be Play the Presenter or Player self-dealt this will allow the SPT tradtion of fun and affordable SNGs to continue at DTD. I will supervise these tables, if neccessary with waiting lists as they are bound to be popular.
Secondly, your schedule
Day 1
Doors open 12pm
Grand Final starts 2.30pm 15,000 chips 40 minute clock 350 players.
Buffet between 5.45pm - 7.15pm, 1 split level.
8pm £30 No Limit Freezeout 10,000 chips 15 minute clock.
Day 2
Doors open 12pm
Grand Final Day 2 starts 2pm
3pm £50 Sky Poker sponsored No Limit Freezeout 10,000 chips 30 min clock
6.30pm £15 No Limit Freezeout 5000 chips 15 minute clock
7.00pm £50 No Limit Freezeout 15,000 chips 15 minute clock
Also on the TV’s around the card room the schedule above was promoted – although you are correct the SNG’s were not really promoted but it was evident that they were going on when walking around I thought.
Also announced regarding the new SPT Tour…
As well as the Main Events at each of these legs, all venues will also be hosting SPT side events on both Friday and Saturday nights. Two day events will also see the inclusion of a Sunday side event, completing what will promise to be a bumper weekend of poker.
“It’s promises to be the biggest and best ever Sky Poker Tour. Our customers love these events and I’m sure they will be putting dates in the diary for these” said Richard Milner, head of Sky Poker. “With the addition of a new Sky Poker Tour Leaderboard too, it’s sure to be even more competitive tour.”
thats a completely different matter what your talking about thats not down to TSP players and i do agree about the STT i didnt hear anything on friday so proceeded to just get drunk sigh
Just got drunk, thats exactly what we did Saturday night.
The reason I got onto the side events in the first place was because I felt SPT members could have hosted STT's had Sky organised it and this would have been an excellent way for Sky players to meet the big name players. Had lolufold given a clinic how many of us would have attended? Obviously this is dependant upon when they exit the main event but with a little thought beforehand I am sure this could have been organised. It is not difficult to make TSP more relevant, simply make the members more accessible to us non members. I am not in any way having a pop at the team members, it is down to Sky to do more with them.
I think some good points are made but these are my observations from SPT Final
Scotty was badged up every time I saw him and James, Redmond, Dan and Wayne all said hello to me badged up, some of the lesser known players had their blue polo shirts on.
I organised a good few SNG's but as always we were limited on tables and chips/cards etc. On Friday night we had 2 tables in the VIP room going but as many of us arrived too late for the tournament at DTD we tried to get a game going for Lisa Marie and Anna and others who could not get a game Friday night.
On Saturday I was able to get 4 SNG's running at one time, TSP members supported these games and we were totally oversubscribed to run them, as far as I am concerned the TSP guys did their bit and TKP enjoy getting these SNG's running as and when we can.
As for staying on TSP, why shouldn't it be on merit results wise? Scotty was fantastic on the GUKPT final table and Wayne won SPT Newcastle, James winner of SPT Final, Sky will always retain these guys on merit through results.
I agree for us mere mortals to get on TSP is more how much rake you pay Sky than how good you are at poker but I for one would love to get on TSP and have a go at a GUKPT, I don't play enough to make top 30 in any category but I think the prize is fantastic, agree 6 places is too many though
I think maybe alot of people are missing one of the biggest points on this subject.
IMO one of skys main priorities with this venture is to bring in new players to the site.
Previously no sky poker hoodies/badges would ever be seen at GUKPT's/ UKIPT's/ deepstacks ect ect...
With the results TSP have had... My 4th in manchester GUKPT, Scotty GUKPT final, Waynes SPT win and GUKPT cash, james SPT grand final win, and cash in the deepstack. All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience.
It is no coincidence the amount of new highstakes 'reg' players that have joined the site over the last few months. Look at the lobby at 9pm every day and every HU table from 100nl to 1knl has 8 regs sat. This wasnt the case 12 months ago, and in my opinion team sky poker playing the big events, speaking to other players and the media coverage is a significant factor in this.
I completely agree that it is about community participation, and whenever we play live events, the support from the majority of members of the forum is terrific and we really appreciate it, and it does feel like we are all a team.
I know i dont post on the forum as often as i should, but without making excuses, i work 40 hours a week and also have a 20 month old son, which takes up the majority of my time. Whenever i get chance i need to grind 6-12 tables to earn money and rake in the cash for points for live entries. Once i start posting on forums and looking on the internet i lose concentration when multitabling, which obviously is very detrimental to my hourly rate.
I would hate to sound harsh, but for the majority of TSP members, poker is their full time occupation and their sole income. They take it very seriously and want to put in the maximum amount of time grinding and earning money so they can pay the bills. And when they arent playing they are probably studying hand histories reviewing sessions or watching training videos themselves. So i can understand why a number of members dont spend alot of time on the forum, because if they did, they would be losing money, and for sum 1 like reds, 30 mins on the forum could mean £2,000.
I still after all this time think TSP is a great idea if you take it for what it is. You get out of it what you put in. It gives the micro stakes players the chance to score big in a £1k live tournament, which is every poker players dream?
I agree that if you cant rake enough or dont have a huge result then it is hard to stay on the team, but at least it is giving everyone the chance to play a £1k event, and not many people (me included) will fork out a thousand pounds to play a tournament.
This is obv just my opinion, hope it makes sense as im super tired.
Sky have determined how they will select the TSP members and I'm sure it's based around financial considerations as to how they think they will get a return on their investment. We should be grateful they have a system that in theory gives everyone a chance of being a TSP member.
Have no doubts about Scotty's commitment to the team and the community. He has put more into the community side of TSP than anyone other than Sky employees. I personally enjoy giving Scotty as much ribbing as possible but the truth is he always has the community in mind and works hard to be involved at all levels of the game. It's true he's a huge fish, but he's a fish committed to the Sky community and for that he deserves his place on TSP.
As one of the first to contribute on this thread, I feel I am able to offer this solution to all questions posed...
If any TSP players, past & present, and any posters here, Happy ,Unhappy, or just benign & bored, would like to spice up their SkyPoker Experiance, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!
Simples....The Sky Team HitSquad is where you need to be, [lol], World Dominance awaits!!
Just apply to me, or our thread, and all posters here, will be considered, it may be a close call [for some], but as ALL are welcome, am sure I can swing it for you!!!
I think maybe alot of people are missing one of the biggest points on this subject. IMO one of skys main priorities with this venture is to bring in new players to the site. Previously no sky poker hoodies/badges would ever be seen at GUKPT's/ UKIPT's/ deepstacks ect ect... With the results TSP have had... My 4th in manchester GUKPT, Scotty GUKPT final, Waynes SPT win and GUKPT cash, james SPT grand final win, and cash in the deepstack. All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience. It is no coincidence the amount of new highstakes 'reg' players that have joined the site over the last few months. Look at the lobby at 9pm every day and every HU table from 100nl to 1knl has 8 regs sat. This wasnt the case 12 months ago, and in my opinion team sky poker playing the big events, speaking to other players and the media coverage is a significant factor in this. I completely agree that it is about community participation, and whenever we play live events, the support from the majority of members of the forum is terrific and we really appreciate it, and it does feel like we are all a team. I know i dont post on the forum as often as i should, but without making excuses, i work 40 hours a week and also have a 20 month old son, which takes up the majority of my time. Whenever i get chance i need to grind 6-12 tables to earn money and rake in the cash for points for live entries. Once i start posting on forums and looking on the internet i lose concentration when multitabling, which obviously is very detrimental to my hourly rate. I would hate to sound harsh, but for the majority of TSP members, poker is their full time occupation and their sole income. They take it very seriously and want to put in the maximum amount of time grinding and earning money so they can pay the bills. And when they arent playing they are probably studying hand histories reviewing sessions or watching training videos themselves. So i can understand why a number of members dont spend alot of time on the forum, because if they did, they would be losing money, and for sum 1 like reds, 30 mins on the forum could mean £2,000. I still after all this time think TSP is a great idea if you take it for what it is. You get out of it what you put in. It gives the micro stakes players the chance to score big in a £1k live tournament, which is every poker players dream? I agree that if you cant rake enough or dont have a huge result then it is hard to stay on the team, but at least it is giving everyone the chance to play a £1k event, and not many people (me included) will fork out a thousand pounds to play a tournament. This is obv just my opinion, hope it makes sense as im super tired. GL at the tables Dan Posted by dantb10
hmmmmm!! Interesting!! As one of the first to contribute on this thread, I feel I am able to offer this solution to all questions posed... If any TSP players, past & present, and any posters here, Happy ,Unhappy, or just benign & bored, would like to spice up their SkyPoker Experiance, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!! Simples....The Sky Team HitSquad is where you need to be, [lol], World Dominance awaits!! Just apply to me, or our thread, and all posters here, will be considered, it may be a close call [for some], but as ALL are welcome, am sure I can swing it for you!!! I await your responses................ Posted by HITMAN_RV
All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience. Posted by dantb10
i havent seen you do a show yet dan? is there plans to do one in the near future? need tips.
Sky have determined how they will select the TSP members and I'm sure it's based around financial considerations as to how they think they will get a return on their investment. We should be grateful they have a system that in theory gives everyone a chance of being a TSP member. Have no doubts about Scotty's commitment to the team and the community. He has put more into the community side of TSP than anyone other than Sky employees. I personally enjoy giving Scotty as much ribbing as possible but the truth is he always has the community in mind and works hard to be involved at all levels of the game. It's true he's a huge fish, but he's a fish committed to the Sky community and for that he deserves his place on TSP. Posted by elsadog
One of Skys greatest strengths is that it has the 'average' player in mind, and I do think that is something that all members of TSP should be involved in too. I do get PMs/Facebook/Twitter messages from random people asking me poker related stuff and try to offer my advice when I can.
Also when I do have my tables chat box up you do get a lot of feedback then....although sometimes its quite annoying to have to bite your tounge when people put nonsense like 'oh hes TSP Sky pay him wages and its rigged for him' which is something I've seen A LOT from totally random people. In fact once I was railing Greghogg in an Open FT, and the first thing I saw in the chat was a number of random railers discussing how bad I was and how I only win cos of luck haha....they've got a point tbh.
While I realise that everyone has different time pressures, it doesn't take much to start the off thread/comp here and there and its something that is encouraged by Sky to do.
One benefit from a promo like TSP that is often missed is that when playing live, people at the table will usually strike up a convo about Sky just from seeing the badge. Something like 'yeah I used to play on Sky years ago, the software tilted me' and I know of a few people who have started using the site again simply cos I agreed with them that it used to be terrible but its got a lot lot better.
Yes Elsa I'm a massive fish I do need to work on my Sky MTT game I don't understand why I can't win anymore its annoying me greatly!
As everyone says, TSP is all about what you put in, if you take it serious and put the time in it will reward you. I will be in the TSP MTT next month and if I make the team I will make sure I play more to earn a decent rake. Its a great opportunity but only if you make it great!
As everyone says, TSP is all about what you put in, if you take it serious and put the time in it will reward you. I will be in the TSP MTT next month and if I make the team I will make sure I play more to earn a decent rake. Its a great opportunity but only if you make it great! Posted by FlashFlush
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Scotty u got it locked up unless everyone is losing there's imo
Stein i saw loads of TSP players wearing their badges u must need glasses/or better ones
i think it is a great scheme but like dohhh has said would be better to take option in cash but then again i can understand why there isn't btw as the main purpose is so they play live events with a sky hoodie/logo although i would defo take opportunity of playing GUKPT/ watever over the 1k even though it is alot of money to me and my bankroll at the moment
i think we have gone of topic there a bit and there defeinately needs to be wider coverage eg. whos on the team when they're next playing an event, how long till there contract is up for renewal although can understand if they want to be personal with people on this matter
This was announced prior to the SPT at DTD…
Firstly two tables will be provided by DTD to run Sky Poker SNGs rake free. Whether these be Play the Presenter or Player self-dealt this will allow the SPT tradtion of fun and affordable SNGs to continue at DTD. I will supervise these tables, if neccessary with waiting lists as they are bound to be popular.
Secondly, your schedule
Day 1
Doors open 12pm
Grand Final starts 2.30pm 15,000 chips 40 minute clock 350 players.
Buffet between 5.45pm - 7.15pm, 1 split level.
8pm £30 No Limit Freezeout 10,000 chips 15 minute clock.
Day 2
Doors open 12pm
Grand Final Day 2 starts 2pm
3pm £50 Sky Poker sponsored No Limit Freezeout 10,000 chips 30 min clock
6.30pm £15 No Limit Freezeout 5000 chips 15 minute clock
7.00pm £50 No Limit Freezeout 15,000 chips 15 minute clock
Also on the TV’s around the card room the schedule above was promoted – although you are correct the SNG’s were not really promoted but it was evident that they were going on when walking around I thought.
Also announced regarding the new SPT Tour…
As well as the Main Events at each of these legs, all venues will also be hosting SPT side events on both Friday and Saturday nights. Two day events will also see the inclusion of a Sunday side event, completing what will promise to be a bumper weekend of poker.
“It’s promises to be the biggest and best ever Sky Poker Tour. Our customers love these events and I’m sure they will be putting dates in the diary for these” said Richard Milner, head of Sky Poker. “With the addition of a new Sky Poker Tour Leaderboard too, it’s sure to be even more competitive tour.”
Scotty was badged up every time I saw him and James, Redmond, Dan and Wayne all said hello to me badged up, some of the lesser known players had their blue polo shirts on.
I organised a good few SNG's but as always we were limited on tables and chips/cards etc. On Friday night we had 2 tables in the VIP room going but as many of us arrived too late for the tournament at DTD we tried to get a game going for Lisa Marie and Anna and others who could not get a game Friday night.
On Saturday I was able to get 4 SNG's running at one time, TSP members supported these games and we were totally oversubscribed to run them, as far as I am concerned the TSP guys did their bit and TKP enjoy getting these SNG's running as and when we can.
As for staying on TSP, why shouldn't it be on merit results wise? Scotty was fantastic on the GUKPT final table and Wayne won SPT Newcastle, James winner of SPT Final, Sky will always retain these guys on merit through results.
I agree for us mere mortals to get on TSP is more how much rake you pay Sky than how good you are at poker but I for one would love to get on TSP and have a go at a GUKPT, I don't play enough to make top 30 in any category but I think the prize is fantastic, agree 6 places is too many though
Dave
IMO one of skys main priorities with this venture is to bring in new players to the site.
Previously no sky poker hoodies/badges would ever be seen at GUKPT's/ UKIPT's/ deepstacks ect ect...
With the results TSP have had... My 4th in manchester GUKPT, Scotty GUKPT final, Waynes SPT win and GUKPT cash, james SPT grand final win, and cash in the deepstack. All the work thewy does, and no doubt others i have missed, it puts sky poker on the map. I and other members have done magazine articles, interviews, the TV shows ect that takes TSP and sky to a wider audience.
It is no coincidence the amount of new highstakes 'reg' players that have joined the site over the last few months. Look at the lobby at 9pm every day and every HU table from 100nl to 1knl has 8 regs sat. This wasnt the case 12 months ago, and in my opinion team sky poker playing the big events, speaking to other players and the media coverage is a significant factor in this.
I completely agree that it is about community participation, and whenever we play live events, the support from the majority of members of the forum is terrific and we really appreciate it, and it does feel like we are all a team.
I know i dont post on the forum as often as i should, but without making excuses, i work 40 hours a week and also have a 20 month old son, which takes up the majority of my time. Whenever i get chance i need to grind 6-12 tables to earn money and rake in the cash for points for live entries. Once i start posting on forums and looking on the internet i lose concentration when multitabling, which obviously is very detrimental to my hourly rate.
I would hate to sound harsh, but for the majority of TSP members, poker is their full time occupation and their sole income. They take it very seriously and want to put in the maximum amount of time grinding and earning money so they can pay the bills. And when they arent playing they are probably studying hand histories reviewing sessions or watching training videos themselves. So i can understand why a number of members dont spend alot of time on the forum, because if they did, they would be losing money, and for sum 1 like reds, 30 mins on the forum could mean £2,000.
I still after all this time think TSP is a great idea if you take it for what it is. You get out of it what you put in. It gives the micro stakes players the chance to score big in a £1k live tournament, which is every poker players dream?
I agree that if you cant rake enough or dont have a huge result then it is hard to stay on the team, but at least it is giving everyone the chance to play a £1k event, and not many people (me included) will fork out a thousand pounds to play a tournament.
This is obv just my opinion, hope it makes sense as im super tired.
GL at the tables
Dan
Sky have determined how they will select the TSP members and I'm sure it's based around financial considerations as to how they think they will get a return on their investment. We should be grateful they have a system that in theory gives everyone a chance of being a TSP member.
Have no doubts about Scotty's commitment to the team and the community. He has put more into the community side of TSP than anyone other than Sky employees. I personally enjoy giving Scotty as much ribbing as possible but the truth is he always has the community in mind and works hard to be involved at all levels of the game. It's true he's a huge fish, but he's a fish committed to the Sky community and for that he deserves his place on TSP.
As one of the first to contribute on this thread, I feel I am able to offer this solution to all questions posed...
If any TSP players, past & present, and any posters here, Happy ,Unhappy, or just benign & bored, would like to spice up their SkyPoker Experiance, there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!
Simples....The Sky Team HitSquad is where you need to be, [lol], World Dominance awaits!!
Just apply to me, or our thread, and all posters here, will be considered, it may be a close call [for some], but as ALL are welcome, am sure I can swing it for you!!!
I await your responses................
Varies from 1minute/post a week or month, to what ever you feel happy with!!
Aussie09 is a fine example of being able to mix a bit of forum fun with us, to the succesful serious side which most mere mortals struggle to attain!!
So help your serious focus, with a little bit of fun??
Other teams are avaible!!
Also when I do have my tables chat box up you do get a lot of feedback then....although sometimes its quite annoying to have to bite your tounge when people put nonsense like 'oh hes TSP Sky pay him wages and its rigged for him' which is something I've seen A LOT from totally random people. In fact once I was railing Greghogg in an Open FT, and the first thing I saw in the chat was a number of random railers discussing how bad I was and how I only win cos of luck haha....they've got a point tbh.
While I realise that everyone has different time pressures, it doesn't take much to start the off thread/comp here and there and its something that is encouraged by Sky to do.
One benefit from a promo like TSP that is often missed is that when playing live, people at the table will usually strike up a convo about Sky just from seeing the badge. Something like 'yeah I used to play on Sky years ago, the software tilted me' and I know of a few people who have started using the site again simply cos I agreed with them that it used to be terrible but its got a lot lot better.
Yes Elsa I'm a massive fish I do need to work on my Sky MTT game I don't understand why I can't win anymore its annoying me greatly!