I do think the DTD winners getting a seat is a good idea but I don't think people should have the mentality "I'll never get a chance" because if your good enough then you have every chance
This. Sikas went from nowhere to 1st in the MTT league in about 2 weeks. Overturning a 2 month headstart that othe people had on him.
It's far from impossible for a small stakes/low bankroll player to get in, I'm currently 30th for STT's and i mainly play the 1.15 to 5.50 DYMs, Although i doubt I have any chance to actually get onto the team...
I can't see how putting a few DTD winners in the qualifying tourney helps. Lets assume they qualify for TSP, 3 months later they will be gone because none of these guys generate enough C4P's to build a live roll, they will have their one £1,000 tourney entry and be gone just like everyone else (except scotty). IMO making TSP more relevant requires a little more than a bit of positive discrimination to get a couple of forum favourites on board.
It's far from impossible for a small stakes/low bankroll player to get in, I'm currently 30th for STT's and i mainly play the 1.15 to 5.50 DYMs, Although i doubt I have any chance to actually get onto the team... Posted by Poker_Fail
why not? maintain your position and you are in a 90 runner mtt where the top 6 get a seat. You will start with less chips than most, but its more than achievable as its a decent structure...
i'm 33rd in the sng list and i rarely play anything above a tenner, in fact im playing 3.30's at the moment.
i intend to sneak through the back door so to speak... (no jokes please lol)
I think its a misconception that you have to be a big bankroll player to have a chance of making it into TSP. I am lucky if I make 3000 poker points a month but it only takes a few good cashes to be in the mix for the final.
As for players having their time in the team extended, I think that anyone who cashes in a GUKPT event thoroughly deserves it.
And it is good to see team members posting in the forum, but not just for the sake of it. Far more important that they are regularly playing on the site. Also good to see the guys who generally play cash getting involved in tournaments too.
I think its a misconception that you have to be a big bankroll player to have a chance of making it into TSP. I am lucky if I make 3000 poker points a month but it only takes a few good cashes to be in the mix for the final. As for players having their time in the team extended, I think that anyone who cashes in a GUKPT event thoroughly deserves it. And it is good to see team members posting in the forum, but not just for the sake of it. Far more important that they are regularly playing on the site. Also good to see the guys who generally play cash getting involved in tournaments too. Posted by penguin7
I think people mean to stay in the team after the 3 months
I can see peoples point of view. The team is a bit of a joke. I have no idea whos in it and whos not. I think sky need to keep things up-to-date. Like the TSP page on this site. Last time I looked it didnt even work properly for a start. And then it only had the original players on it.
As to whether people stay in the team or not, I think thats for sky to decide, unless they change the way they do it. Like a forum vote. My guess is they will only keep the players on if they rake enough to pay for their GUKPT seat. Of which is probably not many, thats why people dont get kept on. (well not to my knowledge)
If sky want TSP players to interact more with the community I think they will ask them. If they want them to run SNGs at SPTs, write blogs, go on the show, im pretty sure nearly all of them would be more than happy to do it. If sky doesnt ask them to do it, then I can see why they wouldnt automatically do it.
EDIT: Just been on the SPT page, it works now, but not up to date
Well I can assure you the badge was there Stein. Wtih regards to my extension, it was announched at SPT Cardiff by TK just before the tournie started I don't know much about the STTs but I can assure you that there were a number held in the VIP room on the Friday evening before and there were many running on Saturday after the event, I think they were orgranised by TKP/TPT but I do know that various people from Sky and TSP took part in them BTW I would be curious as to how you think best the criteria for keeping membership on TSP be settled? What should be looked for? Posted by scotty77
I think you need to show how committed you are to it and by sending in recent stats and results and general info on how your game is going - A bit like how "Total Player" was decided
Also you could be good enough at poker for TSP but you have to be a good ambassador as its Skys reputattion that trying to uphold when you go to these tournaments or even just posting on the forum or talking to other members.
If for example you,ve got a long criminal record, into drugs, a racist and generally have a bad attitude it doesn,t matter how good you are . you shouldn,t be in ( that migt be a bit over the top for an example but you get what i mean)
Take up to 20 minutes a week at least to write a blog or thread or a few posts of you,ve been up to and how being in TSP is for you - just something connecting you with the community as i think the TSP in general has become disconnected with the community.
At the start the community were alll behind the team and could follow their progress. Now a lot of members of the community are not really interested and have lost track / not been kept up to date with who,s in - who,s out - their schedules etc and TSP seems to have become de-valued with ppl preffereing prizes
Perhaps Ian frazer can spark some interest, since he won the presenters game for his place on TSP. No offence to Anna but if she,d luckboxed her way to winning that she would be in TSP and playing in a GUKPT. She,s a gr8 presernter but is only just learning the game and wouldn,t be ready in time.
I for one would like to see at least a thread dedicated to the TSPer,s and all the latest news on the goings on on in the main part of the forum which will get the community behind it again
Q for Scotty or anyone else who may know - Who is currently in TSP? and when will they be playing again as part of TSP?
Ps -Agree with many - As the DTD leaugue has grown so has the standard and some places for the top players should be reserved in the TSP quaterly freerolls
I,m suprised you haven,t suggetsed a raffle for a TSP wildcard seat Machka
It is possible for small stake STTers to qualify for TSP. TKP's & forum DTD frequent player RobbieRott managed to get a place on Team Sky Poker, despite playing smaller stakes. I think it was cycle 2? I remember it causing a buzz on the forums as we had one of the small guys try to beat the big sharks and succeed!!!
I think as Tommy pointed out TSP is to raise awareness of Sky Poker on the bigger stage. The players going deep in GUKPT's etc bring about tv & magazine coverage amounting to free advertising to the wider poker community, and in that respect it's doing a very good job! Sky want the TSP players to earn lots of c4p as part of their TSP bonus so they can play additional high profile events.
I'm not sure why the TSPers have stopped wearing the blue hoodies though as they definitely created more 'brand awareness' as crazy and stein pointed out. I know they were defo banned at Luton but i'm not sure where DTD stand on this...Maybe they're just going through a redesign as Tikay seems to have recently acquired a new SP wardrobe in a darker blue/black recently.
I have to say though with 6 new players coming on board every 3 months it is harder to keep track of who's in and who's out, so more visibility in this area might not go amiss...
as far as I know the current team is: Me Redmond Dan James Wayne Sam1986 Keysasoze Aussie09 Ebberdon 121215 (I think thats how many numbers it is) CTBN (Not 100pc on this) Posted by scotty77
In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : why not? maintain your position and you are in a 90 runner mtt where the top 6 get a seat. You will start with less chips than most, but its more than achievable as its a decent structure... i'm 33rd in the sng list and i rarely play anything above a tenner, in fact im playing 3.30's at the moment. i intend to sneak through the back door so to speak... (no jokes please lol) Posted by GREGHOGG
Ty for the hope GL getting into the top 30 yourself, although you don't need luck if you're determined.
Just wondering, what is the format of the TSP tourney?
Apart from the SnG's in the VIP area which were by invite only, the other SnG's at last week's SPT Final were arranged and dealt by members of TKP and there was no TSP involvement as far as I know.
Anyone could play these who was about and I even dealt at a table when players were waiting.
In Response to Re: Winning a place onto TSP : I think you need to show how committed you are to it and by sending in recent stats and results and general info on how your game is going - A bit like how "Total Player" was decided Also you could be good enough at poker for TSP but you have to be a good ambassador as its Skys reputattion that trying to uphold when you go to these tournaments or even just posting on the forum or talking to other members. If for example you,ve got a long criminal record, into drugs, a racist and generally have a bad attitude it doesn,t matter how good you are . you shouldn,t be in ( that migt be a bit over the top for an example but you get what i mean) Take up to 20 minutes a week at least to write a blog or thread or a few posts of you,ve been up to and how being in TSP is for you - just something connecting you with the community as i think the TSP in general has become disconnected with the community. At the start the community were alll behind the team and could follow their progress. Now a lot of members of the community are not really interested and have lost track / not been kept up to date with who,s in - who,s out - their schedules etc and TSP seems to have become de-valued with ppl preffereing prizes Perhaps Ian frazer can spark some interest, since he won the presenters game for his place on TSP. No offence to Anna but if she,d luckboxed her way to winning that she would be in TSP and playing in a GUKPT. She,s a gr8 presernter but is only just learning the game and wouldn,t be ready in time. I for one would like to see at least a thread dedicated to the TSPer,s and all the latest news on the goings on on in the main part of the forum which will get the community behind it again Q for Scotty or anyone else who may know - Who is currently in TSP? and when will they be playing again as part of TSP? Ps -Agree with many - As the DTD leaugue has grown so has the standard and some places for the top players should be reserved in the TSP quaterly freerolls I,m suprised you haven,t suggetsed a raffle for a TSP wildcard seat Machka Posted by MP33
what he said
team TSP should be decided on merit....not some 3 monthly donkament
If sky can sponsor players such as Toby Lewis, for 1 off events, and Julian Thew, Redmond Lee, James Williams etc for every event, what do they get out of sponsoring lesser players?
It seems contradictory, that the aim is to get blue hoodies on big final tables, then they allow sky mtt grinders to do it....
Yet my argument of being able to award qualifiers in other ways apparently "de-values" the whole thing?
Well it's 1 or the other.....
You can't expect 'the blue hoody' to command respect when there's a chance that bad players, losing players, and russian roullette players could end up wearing it.
Hand pick your players, give alternative incentives and rewards, make sure that the players sat in the 1k tourny r the best players available to win the tournament.
Sticking xxx , xxx and xxx in a blue hoody and saying "go win a GUKPT" de-values Team Sky Poker more than anything else.
You got more chance asking me to win it, and I wouldn't even turn up.
By the way..... If sky wanna continue using the current selection policy, they could improve it by improving how the "poker league" is ranked. For sngs, points can be awarded when u cash, deducted when u dont. Fot mtts it wud be profit, with a minimum no. of tournys needed to qualify. For cash it would be profit, with a minimum no. of hands to qualify - top 22 from 100nl+ / top 5 from 20-50nl / top 3 from 4nl-10nl. Posted by DOHHHHHHH
The thing with doing it that way is it's basically telling everyone how much you make/lose at poker. I think you will find a lot of players will 'opt out' if it means all their records will be on show. This can be because somebody only makes money from rakeback even though they play decent levels and have a reputation, or it could be because they don't want other players seeing how much they crush their level as it could limit the amount of action they get.
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i'm 33rd in the sng list and i rarely play anything above a tenner, in fact im playing 3.30's at the moment.
i intend to sneak through the back door so to speak... (no jokes please lol)
As for players having their time in the team extended, I think that anyone who cashes in a GUKPT event thoroughly deserves it.
And it is good to see team members posting in the forum, but not just for the sake of it. Far more important that they are regularly playing on the site. Also good to see the guys who generally play cash getting involved in tournaments too.
As to whether people stay in the team or not, I think thats for sky to decide, unless they change the way they do it. Like a forum vote. My guess is they will only keep the players on if they rake enough to pay for their GUKPT seat. Of which is probably not many, thats why people dont get kept on. (well not to my knowledge)
Also you could be good enough at poker for TSP but you have to be a good ambassador as its Skys reputattion that trying to uphold when you go to these tournaments or even just posting on the forum or talking to other members.
If for example you,ve got a long criminal record, into drugs, a racist and generally have a bad attitude it doesn,t matter how good you are . you shouldn,t be in ( that migt be a bit over the top for an example but you get what i mean)
Take up to 20 minutes a week at least to write a blog or thread or a few posts of you,ve been up to and how being in TSP is for you - just something connecting you with the community as i think the TSP in general has become disconnected with the community.
At the start the community were alll behind the team and could follow their progress. Now a lot of members of the community are not really interested and have lost track / not been kept up to date with who,s in - who,s out - their schedules etc and TSP seems to have become de-valued with ppl preffereing prizes
Perhaps Ian frazer can spark some interest, since he won the presenters game for his place on TSP. No offence to Anna but if she,d luckboxed her way to winning that she would be in TSP and playing in a GUKPT. She,s a gr8 presernter but is only just learning the game and wouldn,t be ready in time.
I for one would like to see at least a thread dedicated to the TSPer,s and all the latest news on the goings on on in the main part of the forum which will get the community behind it again
Q for Scotty or anyone else who may know - Who is currently in TSP? and when will they be playing again as part of TSP?
Ps -Agree with many - As the DTD leaugue has grown so has the standard and some places for the top players should be reserved in the TSP quaterly freerolls
I,m suprised you haven,t suggetsed a raffle for a TSP wildcard seat Machka
It is possible for small stake STTers to qualify for TSP. TKP's & forum DTD frequent player RobbieRott managed to get a place on Team Sky Poker, despite playing smaller stakes. I think it was cycle 2? I remember it causing a buzz on the forums as we had one of the small guys try to beat the big sharks and succeed!!!
I think as Tommy pointed out TSP is to raise awareness of Sky Poker on the bigger stage. The players going deep in GUKPT's etc bring about tv & magazine coverage amounting to free advertising to the wider poker community, and in that respect it's doing a very good job! Sky want the TSP players to earn lots of c4p as part of their TSP bonus so they can play additional high profile events.
I'm not sure why the TSPers have stopped wearing the blue hoodies though as they definitely created more 'brand awareness' as crazy and stein pointed out. I know they were defo banned at Luton but i'm not sure where DTD stand on this...Maybe they're just going through a redesign as Tikay seems to have recently acquired a new SP wardrobe in a darker blue/black recently.
I have to say though with 6 new players coming on board every 3 months it is harder to keep track of who's in and who's out, so more visibility in this area might not go amiss...
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Also, is Gixxer still in this quarter?
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Just wondering, what is the format of the TSP tourney?
Apart from the SnG's in the VIP area which were by invite only, the other SnG's at last week's SPT Final were arranged and dealt by members of TKP and there was no TSP involvement as far as I know.
Anyone could play these who was about and I even dealt at a table when players were waiting.
The thing with doing it that way is it's basically telling everyone how much you make/lose at poker. I think you will find a lot of players will 'opt out' if it means all their records will be on show. This can be because somebody only makes money from rakeback even though they play decent levels and have a reputation, or it could be because they don't want other players seeing how much they crush their level as it could limit the amount of action they get.