In Response to Re: EvilPingu's 2nd diary : I know that it sounds illogical that I'd rather play better players, but my records suggest I do actually have better results vs. good players than bad ones. Probably means there's something wrong with my game, but for the time being, until I work out what that is and fix it, I'd rather play good players if it's more profitable for me at this moment in time As for the DTD - Turns out I added all 3 tournaments to my records, then only entered 1 of them, so off to post in the DTD thread to let everyone know that I'm an idiot, lol. Posted by EvilPingu
you should want to play bad players. your results against 'better' players are probably just variance.
if you are a good player you will win tonnes more v bad players than you will v better ones.
If you play a few dozen HU Hyper SnG's you'll soon realise that losing AQ v 76 all in pre is super standard and doesn't even come close to warrenting a 'sigh'.
Getting bored and frustrated with DYM's, depositing £100, so that I have a decent bankroll and can play NL4. Apparently I set a £50 deposit limit, which I'm too lazy to remove, so will deposit another £50 tomorrow.
AJ into KK, KK held, another £1.15 down. Getting bored and frustrated with DYM's, depositing £100, so that I have a decent bankroll and can play NL4. Apparently I set a £50 deposit limit, which I'm too lazy to remove, so will deposit another £50 tomorrow. Posted by EvilPingu
nl4 can be a huge frustration as no doubt you will get lots more very loose calls than dym, so i suggest its better to start on your quest with a clear head after your dym run. nl4 can be very rewarding tho compared to playing low level dym.
In Response to Re: EvilPingu's 2nd diary : nl4 can be a huge frustration as no doubt you will get lots more very loose calls than dym, so i suggest its better to start on your quest with a clear head after your dym run. nl4 can be very rewarding tho compared to playing low level dym. Posted by TINTIN
Difference is that in DYM's, most of the time I don't want the loose calls in the later stages when you have to start pinching blinds, whereas NL4 I'm only premium hands knowing I'll get loose calls.
Oh, and I think my luck may have changed... Area 51 regs will no doubt tell you it's because I just deposited :P
i know you dont want the loose calls in the dym but i just think its the nature of the beast at the low levels, theres a lot of payers playing for fun n sometimes the blinds dictate situations.
i was going to advise the course of action you took earlier as i believe nl4 is easier to crack than grinding those dym
nh above. we always feel were due 1 when weve had a bad run.
i know you dont want the loose calls in the dym but i just think its the nature of the beast at the low levels, theres a lot of payers playing for fun n sometimes the blinds dictate situations. i was going to advise the course of action you took earlier as i believe nl4 is easier to crack than grinding those dym nh above. we always feel were due 1 when weve had a bad run. Posted by TINTIN
Yep, exactly - All good reading the guides that say fold everything except aces early on, but when you get called with any old junk later on, that strategy just doesn't work IMO, as you're going to get sucked out on when you try to pinch blinds, probably enough to negate profits.. At least in cash, you've got 100BB, you can just wait for a hand and milk bad players to death.
Ended my brief NL4 session 60p up, thanks to the 88 vs. AA hand above, although had 44 vs. KK against a short stack, 1st hand he was at the table, joined the table with something like 90p. Called his raise, only 2 over cards to my 44 on the flop, board was 9 high so I thought I'd probably get called and be up against 2 overs. Alas, I was totally wrong and he actually had a hand.
On the bright side, my 60p profit on that session has brought my total losses for the day below £10 :P Plan to withdraw my £50 again if and when I get my bankroll up to £250.
3/1/12, 12:11am
Bankroll: £90.73 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit)
In Response to Re: EvilPingu's 2nd diary : Yep, exactly - All good reading the guides that say fold everything except aces early on, but when you get called with any old junk later on, that strategy just doesn't work IMO, as you're going to get sucked out on when you try to pinch blinds, probably enough to negate profits.. At least in cash, you've got 100BB, you can just wait for a hand and milk bad players to death. Ended my brief NL4 session 60p up, thanks to the 88 vs. AA hand above, although had 44 vs. KK against a short stack, 1st hand he was at the table, joined the table with something like 90p. Called his raise, only 2 over cards to my 44 on the flop, board was 9 high so I thought I'd probably get called and be up against 2 overs. Alas, I was totally wrong and he actually had a hand. On the bright side, my 60p profit on that session has brought my total losses for the day below £10 :P Plan to withdraw my £50 again if and when I get my bankroll up to £250. 3/1/12, 12:11am Bankroll: £90.73 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit) C4P: 92 STT League points: 72 Cash League points: 13 MTT League points: 0 Posted by EvilPingu
how many tables do you play at a time at nl4?
it really pays if you can multi 4+. it also helps to tighten your game up esp at this level.
You want players making bad/lose calls all day The only flip of this is they make good calls, which you don't want If you oppo is making mistakes, this is GOOD long term Play NL4 and print money, don't bother with DYM until you have a spare £50 and then give £2 DYM a bash ps. your only stealing blinds in DYM when you have 5-6 bigs Posted by rancid
i agree with what you say.
im not a fan of dym. i feel a bad call can punish you more in a dym compared to cash.
i want bad calls all day long but i feel its harder to turn things around playing dym to cash
Also played a single PLO8 DYM, cashed. Not been playing much today, just been on the forum and messing about on the internet, lol. Got a ton of College work to do so will probably load up a single NL4 table and play at the same time, should hopefully make trigonometry slightly less tedious.
3/1/12, 10:12pm
Bankroll: £95.48 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit)
Finished that "session" if you can call playing 1 table for 48 minutes a session, +£1.09 - Not a bad profit today, sadly at college most of the day tomorrow, so probably won't get to play much, hopefully I'm wrong. Inevitably dropped out of the top 150 on the Sit 'n' Go leaderboard, but not too bothered about that right now, will just keep playing the odd PLO8 DYM when I feel like it, and grind a few DYM's towards the end of the month, depending on bankroll and whether top 150 is achievable.
3/1/12, 11:24pm
Bankroll: £96.57 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit)
So far today: +£6.44
C4P: 107
STT League points: 79
Cash League points: 24 (Still, confused.com? Must be slow updating because I definitely won some hands, lol)
Only played 3 PLO8 DYM's today, won the first one, second one the blinds got up to 300/600, ended up setting the short stack all in, he doubled up, I became the short stack, shoved, got called, lost again, bubbled.
The third one...sigh. Saw a few flops, the only hand I showed down all game was a nut house for the high pot, the rest I just missed the flop completely, every single time. Down to 1300 chips, 5 players left. Then the hand below happened. Thought I'd try to pick up the big blind pre-flop, marginal hand but probably better than what the BB had most of the time, decided to just go for it. Got called by Q887 in the big blind - Couldn't get a much worse starting hand if you tried. Anyway, missed flop, stuck my remaining chips in to try and get my opponent to fold, if opponent had a king, c'est la vie.
Yep, got called with Q887 on a KK2 board. Ahead, but not the best call in the world. Losing to any king, any overpair to 88 in my hand, which is definitely in my range given that I raised pre-flop and have only been putting money in the pot with a hand until now. Pray for running low cards to chop, an ace, or a jack, missed everything. Make notes, move on.
Will be back on NL4 tables tomorrow, only at college for a couple of hours so got most of the day to myself, nice long session tomorrow evening I hope don't know what's caused my PLO8 record to be so rubbish this month, only lost 24 DYM's out of 79 all last month, lost 10/17 already this month. Still need to look for some PLO8 training videos sometime, especially as the games don't seem as soft as they were this time last month. Any recommendations welcome
4/1/12, 11:59pm
Bankroll: £93.82 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit)
So far today: -£2.75
C4P: 116
STT League points: 86
Cash League points: 27
MTT League points: 0
PLO8 hand, pre flop odds. Me vs. Oppo 46% High Pot 54% 53% Low Pot 8% 40% Scoop 30% 56% Equity 44%
Also played a single PLO8 DYM, cashed. Not been playing much today, just been on the forum and messing about on the internet, lol. Got a ton of College work to do so will probably load up a single NL4 table and play at the same time, should hopefully make trigonometry slightly less tedious. 3/1/12, 10:12pm Bankroll: £95.48 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit) So far today: +£5.35 C4P: 104 STT League points: 79 Cash League points: 24 MTT League points: 0 Posted by EvilPingu
Having seen your game at PLO8 mate, I would recommend that you play more of this as one of your staples. Unfortunately I will not be playing for the next 3 weeks due to going on holiday, so the value may have left temporarily.
Only played 3 PLO8 DYM's today, won the first one, second one the blinds got up to 300/600, ended up setting the short stack all in, he doubled up, I became the short stack, shoved, got called, lost again, bubbled. The third one...sigh. Saw a few flops, the only hand I showed down all game was a nut house for the high pot, the rest I just missed the flop completely, every single time. Down to 1300 chips, 5 players left. Then the hand below happened. Thought I'd try to pick up the big blind pre-flop, marginal hand but probably better than what the BB had most of the time, decided to just go for it. Got called by Q887 in the big blind - Couldn't get a much worse starting hand if you tried. Anyway, missed flop, stuck my remaining chips in to try and get my opponent to fold, if opponent had a king, c'est la vie. Yep, got called with Q887 on a KK2 board. Ahead, but not the best call in the world. Losing to any king, any overpair to 88 in my hand, which is definitely in my range given that I raised pre-flop and have only been putting money in the pot with a hand until now. Pray for running low cards to chop, an ace, or a jack, missed everything. Make notes, move on. Will be back on NL4 tables tomorrow, only at college for a couple of hours so got most of the day to myself, nice long session tomorrow evening I hope don't know what's caused my PLO8 record to be so rubbish this month, only lost 24 DYM's out of 79 all last month, lost 10/17 already this month. Still need to look for some PLO8 training videos sometime, especially as the games don't seem as soft as they were this time last month. Any recommendations welcome 4/1/12, 11:59pm Bankroll: £93.82 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit) So far today: -£2.75 C4P: 116 STT League points: 86 Cash League points: 27 MTT League points: 0 PLO8 hand, pre flop odds. Me vs. Oppo 46% High Pot 54% 53% Low Pot 8% 40% Scoop 30% 56% Equity 44% Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance EvilPingu Small blind 100.00 100.00 1215.00 cheekygin Big blind 200.00 300.00 1183.75 Your hole cards A J 4 6 Wilbur1963 Fold ted99 Fold w4rlock Fold EvilPingu Raise 400.00 700.00 815.00 cheekygin Call 300.00 1000.00 883.75 Flop K K 2 EvilPingu All-in 815.00 1815.00 0.00 cheekygin Call 815.00 2630.00 68.75 EvilPingu Show A J 4 6 cheekygin Show 8 8 7 Q Turn 5 River 10 cheekygin Win high Two Pairs, Kings and 8s 2630.00 2698.75 No qualifying low hand Posted by EvilPingu
You know this is not a reg at PLO8. You were massive favorite, and were very unfortunate not to get the low and to win the high.
In Response to Re: EvilPingu's 2nd diary : You know this is not a reg at PLO8. You were massive favorite, and were very unfortunate not to get the low and to win the high. Posted by 67Bhoys
Yeah, true, guess we want these calls but doesn't make it any less annoying when they win the hand. Agree I should probably play more PLO8, most enjoyable game on Sky for me, just being careful not to play PLO8 too much and get bored with it.
So far today: Played a PLO8 DYM when I got home, played an NL4 table while cooking, won the DYM, and +£2.62 on the NL4 table, nothing better than having someone 3 bet all in when you have a set of Jacks
5/1/12, 5:47pm
Bankroll: £97.09 (Including £15 C4P due, and £50 deposit)
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Oh, and I think my luck may have changed... Area 51 regs will no doubt tell you it's because I just deposited :P
i was going to advise the course of action you took earlier as i believe nl4 is easier to crack than grinding those dym
nh above. we always feel were due 1 when weve had a bad run.
Ended my brief NL4 session 60p up, thanks to the 88 vs. AA hand above, although had 44 vs. KK against a short stack, 1st hand he was at the table, joined the table with something like 90p. Called his raise, only 2 over cards to my 44 on the flop, board was 9 high so I thought I'd probably get called and be up against 2 overs. Alas, I was totally wrong and he actually had a hand.
On the bright side, my 60p profit on that session has brought my total losses for the day below £10 :P Plan to withdraw my £50 again if and when I get my bankroll up to £250.
The only flip of this is they make good calls, which you don't want
If you oppo is making mistakes, this is GOOD long term
Play NL4 and print money, don't bother with DYM until you have a spare £50 and then give £2 DYM a bash
ps. your only stealing blinds in DYM when you have 5-6 bigs
it really pays if you can multi 4+. it also helps to tighten your game up esp at this level.
im not a fan of dym. i feel a bad call can punish you more in a dym compared to cash.
i want bad calls all day long but i feel its harder to turn things around playing dym to cash
Good luck with this EvilPingu.
Yep, got called with Q887 on a KK2 board. Ahead, but not the best call in the world. Losing to any king, any overpair to 88 in my hand, which is definitely in my range given that I raised pre-flop and have only been putting money in the pot with a hand until now. Pray for running low cards to chop, an ace, or a jack, missed everything. Make notes, move on.
Will be back on NL4 tables tomorrow, only at college for a couple of hours so got most of the day to myself, nice long session tomorrow evening I hope
PLO8 hand, pre flop odds.
Me vs. Oppo
46% High Pot 54%
53% Low Pot 8%
40% Scoop 30%
56% Equity 44%