never checking the turn here after betting the flop and im called. you were after a flush thats what you got you wanted a caller thats what you got. Dont let him have free cards to hit a Rag A-off of dimonds. Fold the river if he shoves.
Well I wasn't really 'after' anything, I was just allowed to see a free flop from the BB. But yeah, I realise now, I should have bet turn. I was probably just thinking too much when I didn't really know my opponent. If I ever see someone check raise me on a flop like that and give up on a non flush turn, then I'd always be betting (especially if I have a set of 8s!)
But yeah, first session back to cash for a while, must be a bit rusty.
Emma has managed to show me up at poker again lol. We both played our first ever timed tourney today (not simultaneously because we only have 1 laptop)... She trebles her BI, and I bust out in level 2
I didn't realise them timed tournies had such fast structures, mental.
Well I wasn't really 'after' anything, I was just allowed to see a free flop from the BB. But yeah, I realise now, I should have bet turn. I was probably just thinking too much when I didn't really know my opponent. If I ever see someone check raise me on a flop like that and give up on a non flush turn, then I'd always be betting (especially if I have a set of 8s!) But yeah, first session back to cash for a while, must be a bit rusty. Emma has managed to show me up at poker again lol. We both played our first ever timed tourney today (not simultaneously because we only have 1 laptop)... She trebles her BI, and I bust out in level 2 I didn't realise them timed tournies had such fast structures, mental. Posted by Lambert180
Yep this is what it looked like to me, tbh I'd just treat it very simlar to NL4 which it pretty much is for the most part, therefore VALOOOOOO !
Well I wasn't really 'after' anything, I was just allowed to see a free flop from the BB. But yeah, I realise now, I should have bet turn. I was probably just thinking too much when I didn't really know my opponent. If I ever see someone check raise me on a flop like that and give up on a non flush turn, then I'd always be betting (especially if I have a set of 8s!) But yeah, first session back to cash for a while, must be a bit rusty. Emma has managed to show me up at poker again lol. We both played our first ever timed tourney today (not simultaneously because we only have 1 laptop)... She trebles her BI, and I bust out in level 2 I didn't realise them timed tournies had such fast structures, mental. Posted by Lambert180
Got another session in tonight, only managed to play for about 1hr 30, was gonna play for longer but Emma wanted to go in the 9:15 £300 BH. Although I did play with 3 tables tonight which was perfectly comfortable. Finished the session £5.79 up so a big improvement compared to yesterday, and I was really happy with how I played.
Got a few interesting hands, but am now restraining myself from giving away too much info about my game by not posting loads in the clinic so would be grateful if someone experienced fancies having a look at a hand or two.
Todays Profit: +£5.79 Monthly Profit: -£12.89
Poker Points: 57
Quite shocked with how quickly I'm earning points for the small amount of volume I'm putting in. Looks like I should be able to cruise to 1000+ when I'm in full swing with proper sessions and 4-6 tables.
I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts on the flush v set hand Pingu.
Got a much more decent amount of volume in tonight, played for 2 hours and was 4-tabling this time (perfectly comfortably).
Few annoying spots at the start of the session... made a hero call (I know, very stupid!) because I was so sure he overbet the river with a missed flush... turned out he'd flopped the same pair as me (my kicker was better) then he hit 2pr on the river. Then I had KK with the King of hearts, and got it in on the flop 572 (all hearts), he turned over 38 of hearts, and I didn't manage to bink another heart.
Anyway, was almost 2 BIs down after them 2 hands right at the start of the session so spent the rest of the session playing catch up (I wasn't actually chasing the loss, but ya know what I mean). After them 2 hands, I was very happy with how I played for the rest of the session and finished 1 BI down. The frustrating thing was that I kept picking up hands and flopping well, and I dunno if people just had nothing, but I just couldn't get paid off for anything, so all the pots I won were small pots.
On the bright side, I did hit my first ever online royal flush tonight
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
shaun09
Small blind
£0.05
£0.05
£9.89
Lambert180
Big blind
£0.10
£0.15
£14.38
Your hole cards
Q
J
southdog
Raise
£0.20
£0.35
£11.01
wisdom1932
Fold
shaun09
Fold
Lambert180
Call
£0.10
£0.45
£14.28
Flop
K
A
10
Lambert180
Check
southdog
Check
Turn
J
Lambert180
Bet
£0.34
£0.79
£13.94
southdog
Call
£0.34
£1.13
£10.67
River
10
Lambert180
Check
southdog
Bet
£0.20
£1.33
£10.47
Lambert180
Raise
£0.90
£2.23
£13.04
southdog
Call
£0.70
£2.93
£9.77
Lambert180
Show
Q
J
southdog
Muck
9
9
Lambert180
Win
Royal Flush
£2.71
£15.75
Today's Profit: -£10.70 Monthly Profit: - £23.59 Poker Points: 113
Funny story with that royal flush. I didn't notice the Q in my hand was the spade, so I checked the nut straight positive that he would bet and I'd check-raise... was a bit annoyed when the Js came on the turn, then when the Ts came on the river I was genuinely thinking, 'oh ffs, my nut straight is beat by all kinds of flushes and FHs now' lol... then I realised!
Well before I realised about the RF, I checked with the intention of calling a reasonable bet. Then I saw the RF, he bet, and I raised like 4 and a bit times his bet which was 75% of what was in the pot, didn't think I was getting called if I made it too big.
Yeah it's just (at least at this level) if he calls 90p he probz calls £1.40 plus not often u get nuts, but obvz not massive error just gotta try and eeck out value whenever possible
qj hand, you should consider donking out here, esp vs fish you will get so much action imo, c/r is fine too, it just sick that he checks, as played i would c/r much bigger like £2.20, i think his calling range does not differ with sizing, meaning if he will call 90 he would call a bigger raise imo.
QQ hand, Vs unknown i think you played it well, when he click backs the flop its a bit of a "sigh" but you cant fold imo, turn check is fine, river is a fold. The board did run pretty bad for you tbf, vs majority of fish though i would want to get it in on that flop.
Got a decent session in tonight of 4tabling. I'd been a bit short on cards and short on hitting flops in my first few sessions, but tonight things finally seemed to be going my way again.
Today's Profit: +£23.61 Monthly Profit: +£0.02
Finally back in the black, even if it is only 2p lol!
Poker Points: 141
There's 1 hand I wasn't sure about...
I dunno if this is a really nitty fold, didn't know anything about the opponent, hadn't been on the table for long, but think this is the first time I'd see him 3bet and it was a pretty big 3bet. I really didn't fancy flatting, hoping to hit and having to fold when he c-bets, but I figured if I 4bet and get it in, I was only ever gonna be flipping (as an underdog) in the best case scenario. Thoughts?
you have premium hand and positon id prob just call the flop or 3 bet him pre, see what comes out and then see what he does then either c-bet if he checks but no way am i putting that down pre hes prob got a pk pair which is good or AQ,AJ which is even better no point in jamming pre there though.
Firstly you've raised UTG which is position of tightest range (presumably) and even with this he feels strong enough 3bet out of the blinds (the toughest positions to play post flop). Not only has he 3bet but it's 5x the original raise (again it's 10p plus £1.40 right ?), I realise someone else has flatted but it's still pretty hefty.
Flatting can't be an option as they'll be around £3.50 in the pot with both players having just over double that behind meaning 'play' is reduced quite a bit, if you miss.
If you 3bet it HAS to be to call off as 3bet bluffing with AK would be horrible. I'm not sure if you could just shove that would probz be overkill and take any chance of him bluffing away (still doubt he could with stack sizes), only called when in bad shape.
You mention not seeing him 3bet much but now he decides to do so in the conditions I mentioned above out of the blue, for me this just looks like a big hand wanting to get paid, yes he MIGHT have AQs but that's probz the best you can hope for. A lot of guys at NL10 are very rocky in general and just wait for monsters before commiting.
Of course it varies and some are LAGGy and like to crush the tighter REGs but in that circumstance I'd think he'd be more inclined to 3bet smaller as if he knows you're very tight he can get his answer for as small as possible, raising this much is just a waste of chips if he is bluffing IMO as solid player most likely won't flat 3bets without good hands no matter what size they are.
Also dosn't matter about losing the chance to gather reads, you're on the table for more than 5 minutes right. so just keep an eye out for when he does it again and if it goes to showdown check it out, if he doesn't 3bet for the rest of the session you probably have your answer anuway;)
@ Donk, you say you're wanting to jam it in, then say I should 4bet to around £3 which is as good as a min-re-raise... what possible benefit is there from making that 4bet? If I 4bet jam, I get called by all the hands I don't wanna see, and make all the hands like AQ fold. And if I min-re-raise, I still probably fold out all the hands I wanna see, build a big pot when I have A-high which is likely to not be good here, and am just asking to get jammed on.
@ Dazler, you say it's good if he's got a pocket pair, but if he has he's the favourite, then when I call and miss (which I will 2 out of 3 times), he is almost always gonna c-bet after that massive 3bet and I can't call if I miss. On the flip side, if I do hit my card and he has an underpair, chances are I aint gonna get much/anything out of him anyway.
Not complaining about the input guys, I'm just explaining my thought process for folding.
How often am I gonna get a fold here after that big of a 3bet? Because obviously I NEED to get folds to make it profitable when I'm gonna be flipping as the underdog nearly all the time.
Comments
bet turn
b/f river
edit: Scrum - never put people on flopped flushes ! Get it in on flop with set )
Lambert - it's ok I wasn't expecting a reply on the pm i SENT YOU ! ) feeling a bit touchy today -_-
But yeah, first session back to cash for a while, must be a bit rusty.
Emma has managed to show me up at poker again lol. We both played our first ever timed tourney today (not simultaneously because we only have 1 laptop)... She trebles her BI, and I bust out in level 2
I didn't realise them timed tournies had such fast structures, mental.
Got a few interesting hands, but am now restraining myself from giving away too much info about my game by not posting loads in the clinic so would be grateful if someone experienced fancies having a look at a hand or two.
Todays Profit: +£5.79
Monthly Profit: -£12.89
Poker Points: 57
Quite shocked with how quickly I'm earning points for the small amount of volume I'm putting in. Looks like I should be able to cruise to 1000+ when I'm in full swing with proper sessions and 4-6 tables.
I'm intrigued to hear your thoughts on the flush v set hand Pingu.
Few annoying spots at the start of the session... made a hero call (I know, very stupid!) because I was so sure he overbet the river with a missed flush... turned out he'd flopped the same pair as me (my kicker was better) then he hit 2pr on the river. Then I had KK with the King of hearts, and got it in on the flop 572 (all hearts), he turned over 38 of hearts, and I didn't manage to bink another heart.
Anyway, was almost 2 BIs down after them 2 hands right at the start of the session so spent the rest of the session playing catch up (I wasn't actually chasing the loss, but ya know what I mean). After them 2 hands, I was very happy with how I played for the rest of the session and finished 1 BI down. The frustrating thing was that I kept picking up hands and flopping well, and I dunno if people just had nothing, but I just couldn't get paid off for anything, so all the pots I won were small pots.
On the bright side, I did hit my first ever online royal flush tonight
Monthly Profit: - £23.59
Poker Points: 113
Today's Profit: +£23.61
Monthly Profit: +£0.02
Finally back in the black, even if it is only 2p lol!
Poker Points: 141
There's 1 hand I wasn't sure about...
I dunno if this is a really nitty fold, didn't know anything about the opponent, hadn't been on the table for long, but think this is the first time I'd see him 3bet and it was a pretty big 3bet. I really didn't fancy flatting, hoping to hit and having to fold when he c-bets, but I figured if I 4bet and get it in, I was only ever gonna be flipping (as an underdog) in the best case scenario. Thoughts?
@ Dazler, you say it's good if he's got a pocket pair, but if he has he's the favourite, then when I call and miss (which I will 2 out of 3 times), he is almost always gonna c-bet after that massive 3bet and I can't call if I miss. On the flip side, if I do hit my card and he has an underpair, chances are I aint gonna get much/anything out of him anyway.
Not complaining about the input guys, I'm just explaining my thought process for folding.
And yeah Dude I completely agree with you.