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Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    Hand 1) i think your beat, at best flipping but i dont think your that lucky this time

    hand 2) seems pretty standard post flop

    I reckon hand 1 u set up to bink, hand 2 you brick vs his overpair or set of 10s 


  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited February 2012
    Ha sleeping patterns ftw :(

    Yeah you covered it all :) I didn't really think about you obviously working Fridays when most day 1s are duh me. What age groups do you teach ? I'm guessing primary school as no one in their right mind would teach moody teenagers right ???? :).

    To answer your question I think its a yes from someone that's played with me not a lot because they wanna knock me out but then again some people think oh no it's Ben I'll avoid him. It's a hard one to answer because it flip flops from player to player I just try identify fast which one. 

    If the player pool on here was bigger I wouldn't play a lot of them truthfully, I consider them my weakest game out of hu,mtt and dyms. They have defiinatly got tougher lately I just try to play what I think I got the biggest edge in. 

  • Nutter5932Nutter5932 Member Posts: 349
    edited February 2012
    You must have won hand 2 and lost hand 1 based purely on the pot sizes /stakes. 

    Hand one I know him quite well I snap him running round the room high fiving anyone about as he's a spewtard. He hits his ak/aq or sets up.

    Hand 2 : I think it's a standard re ship and Sam could literally have a set / 89 or like jj-qq. As you posted it it could be a gross one like jqss or j10ss
  • dantb10dantb10 Member Posts: 583
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Ok I will get to the outstanding questions soon (Bandini, you made me chuckle, thank you) but we haven't had a HH in here for a while.  Going to try something and see if it takes off.  I'm going to post parts of two HHs, one will be my biggest win in the last day, the other will be the biggest loss.  Rate my play on both and guess which is which.  I'm going to leave the names in on these, hopefully no one will be offended.  If anyone is feel free to PM me or post here and I will refrain from doing so in the future. So, to the hands. Hand 1 Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance dantb10 Small blind   £2.00 £2.00 £255.80 TommyD Big blind   £2.00 £4.00 £151.40   Your hole cards J J       dantb10 Raise   £4.00 £8.00 £251.80 TommyD Raise   £16.00 £24.00 £135.40 dantb10 Raise   £42.00 £66.00 £209.80 TommyD All-in   £135.40 £201.40 £0.00 dantb10 Call   £105.40 Hand 2 Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance robin1981 Small blind   £1.00 £1.00 £98.05 hung21 Big blind   £2.00 £3.00 £776.45   Your hole cards A K       ajs4385 Raise   £6.00 £9.00 £507.25 TommyD Raise   £18.00 £27.00 £420.60 sam1986 Raise   £42.00 £69.00 £332.00 robin1981 Fold         hung21 Fold         ajs4385 Fold         TommyD Call   £24.00 £93.00 £396.60 Flop     6 7 10       TommyD Check         sam1986 Bet   £62.00 £155.00 £270.00 TommyD All-in   £396.60 £551.60 £0.00 sam1986 All-in   £270.00 £821.60 £0.00 TommyD Unmatched bet   £64.60 £757.00 £64.60
    Posted by TommyD

    Im offended ;)

    Pretty standard.

    i 5 bet jamd ajo in bb v ur btn about 3 hands before this.

    u can start folding jacks pre v me heads up tho if you want i dont mind.

    And do one ben u t wat u would fold a king and a king in this spot!
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,620
    edited February 2012

    Hi Tommy,
    Enjoying the Diary.  Re. hands I'm guessing JJ held and in 2 the flush never came losing to set?  Anyways, a couple of questions.. What set-up do you have computer-wise?  and, are there times when you are free to play poker and just don't fancy playing cos you're not in the right frame of mind? 

  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012

    A fellow Spurs fan and very good friend of mine offered me a ticket for te game today for free at about 9am.  As my GF was getting back from a hen do at lunchtime and it would mean I'd have to skip out on my Sunday League teams game, leaving them in the lurch, I declined.

    Lucky escape.

    To prevent any partisan posting, may I just congratulate Arsenal for their performance and result.

  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited February 2012
    hand 1 = lost
    hand 2 = emmmmm won


    And what a great game, from a very happy Arsenal fan

    lolz never knew we had it in us to comeback like that


    I am going to be very chirpy this week at work

    btw Tommy Harlow dogs is my local card room, tell us some stories - go on -
    Are the stories regading the cash tables by any chance
    Are you local to Harlow ?



  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012

    Ok the hands.

    Hand one I was up against AK and did a hold.

    Hand two Sam had Aces (surely illegal) and I bricked.

    Might do that again after a long session if I have a few interesting ones.

    Yesterday I did the normal MTT grind, lighter than most as I do have a limit on the tables I can play at a given time and I was hanging around for a while in most tournies.  I only played 4 on another site, min cashing or just above min cashing in all of them.  It was frustrating, small cash in the million after being card and spot dead for hours.  The worst one was in the Red Spade open, approaching the bubble with well over double the average I obvious raise with my aces, big blind defends with T9 off and the flop is 678.  GG deep run stack.  I ended up being so winded by that I just limped my way into the cash.

    On Sky I had my total donk off in the Roller shown on TV for my pleasure.  Really bad stack off by me, I put it down to tiredness and too many tables, I was looking at a deep run in a few very well played tournaments and went into button clicking mode.  Mistakes happen, got to fix that.  Donked out of the mini but min cashed the Primo.

    In life news my Sunday League team lost 5-2 in a friendly.  It was arranged to keep our fitness up before our last two very important matches that can decide our promotion, so naturally we picked up three injuries.  Marvelous.  The team I support also lost 5-2 to the direct rivals.  Yes Sunday just kept on getting better...

  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Right suppose we best talk about poker again ;)  When you play the Rollers, do you try to sat in first? if you do and fail are you always buying in anyway? or will have another couple of attempts?  My next question maybe a bit personal, well reveal a bit much so you can either decline to answer/ PM me or even put on here your call:  What advice would you give for satelites? this is really my big problem at the mo, i do think its a case of run bad but im sure im getting in spots i shouldnt. Any help from urs truly would be grand. Also as there has been alot of changes of late and more to come, what IYO do you think is either the biggest change? or you think should be priority to be next.  Loving this thread  John
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Hey YG.

    I sometimes try to Sat in, but these days I mostly just buy in direct.  I used to have a few cracks at satting into the old Sunday Roller but would always buy in direct if I didn't manage it.

    How I play a satelite really depends on how many seats are available.  If it's one of the winner only ones then I look to get into a high equity all in spot early.  I'll take a flip in hand one if offered.  If I double then I go into a tighter mode to just pick up a few pots here and there, trying to get on the FT to give myself a shot at the seat.

    If it's a super satelite with quite a few seats then it's tight, tight, tight all the way.

    I think the biggest change on SkyPoker recently was H4H.  it was a great improvement but I'd personally like it to come in with four or five to go, and apply to both tables from the start when down to two tables.  No other sites I know of do this but its's just a personal preference.

    As far as future changes go, antes will completely change the dynamic in tournaments which should be fun.  I want to see resizeable/stretchy tables next but I'm a paitent guy :)  The one change I personally do not want is a Timebank.  I know that is probably controversial and a lot of people want it but I really don't like them.  I very very rarely use it and it completely slows the game down.  On another site shorties start mashing the timebank from about 100 to the bubble.  Then they start mashing it for the money ladders.  I find the play so slow on that other site it really annoys me, so many people killing the clock and so much play being lost, heavy paid MTTs suddenly turn into crapshoots.  When it comes to playing a hand here's some advice, do your thinking and make your decisions while the other peron's timer is ticking down.
  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited February 2012
    Really liking the guess the outcome of the hands TommyD is a great way to get folks involved in what they would do or weather they would play it a certain way. Might try this myself on my thread if you dont mind me stealing your idea :) Im an Arsenal fan by the way ;)
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2012
    TY tommy, glad u posted your thoughts on both types of satelites.

    I am also very looking forward to the antes, hopefully well sort out the Men from the boys and means ppl have to play to even min cash :) 

    I also agree about timebank, i never use it so will not benefit me suppose only really needed for serious mulittablers where as i usually play around 4 so no need for me.

    PS-Loved the footy yesterday! 
  • RknowlezRknowlez Member Posts: 49
    edited February 2012
    You said you will just buy in to tournaments direct usually, does this not affect you as it may be all your cash profits for the day and you may not cash any tournaments and may leave you for a loss. I find this difficult as if I buy in to lots of tournaments and if I brick them all I feel I always have to restore my BR to back to what it was before and begin to chase the money. 

    So do you just try forget and not really take too much notice of how much you are up or down ? 
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    Just a quick note to follow up on my reply to Young Gun.

    Personally I dislike timebanks in tournament play.  Only once in many years on SkyPoker have I wanted there to be a timebank.  That was a fun hand, UKOPS Highroller about 12 or so from the cash.  Nigdawg with a stack raises UTG, Macapaca flats UTG+1, I'm next with Jacks and 3bet, folded around to Nigdawg who shoves (he covers), Maca folds and then it's on me.  That was the only hand I can remember where I was straight 50/50 on my decisions.  The ticker went all the way down to the end before I finally decided what to do.

    Anyway I digress.  Timebanks kill the play in tournaments, especially large field ones.  Maybe there wouldn't be as much as a problem in 6max so we'll see.

    However I can understand timebanks in cash games and would be all for it if it was applies to cash games only.  Of course this cannot and will not happen.  Imagine the continuation of the argument about Cash v Tournaments in reference to where SkyPoker concentrates most of it's attention if that happened?  Just not worth the hassle so i imagine they will be introduced across the board in the future.  Some things you like, some you don't, so I'm not about to throw my toys out of the pram about it.
  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited February 2012
    Talking about satellites, I seem to do very well at the main event sats at 6pm, with a success rate of about 70%. They usually follow a similar course with nothing happening for ages, then a couple of spots to double up followed by nervously waiting for others to fail.

    But if I satellite in, invariably I never get going in the tournament itself. Buy in direct and I run better.

    Coincidence or mindset ?
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Talking about satellites, I seem to do very well at the main event sats at 6pm, with a success rate of about 70%. They usually follow a similar course with nothing happening for ages, then a couple of spots to double up followed by nervously waiting for others to fail. But if I satellite in, invariably I never get going in the tournament itself. Buy in direct and I run better. Coincidence or mindset ?
    Posted by penguin7
    Mindset 100%, the tell being that you notice it.  I think when you're going into a tourney after satting in it's at least on your mind.  Not sure why, maybe greater ROI on a cash, maybe you feel a little like you're on a freeroll but they way you are noticing it tells me in some way it's affecting your game.
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    Great thread Tommy, really enjoying it. Couple of questions for you: As a teacher and someone who enjoys all variations of poker, how hard do you think it is for the average person to pick up the other formats? I think I pick most things up quite quickly but forms of poker other than hold'em may as well be chinese to me. Would you offer any particular advice to players like me who have hold'em entrenched in their brains to the exclusion of all other formats? You must get this one all the time (sorry) but do you not fancy yourself as a pro? I know what you said above about that 'ruthless' cutting edge that is required but do you not think you could shake that and/or any other obstacles? Would you rule out ever going pro? (Don't answer last bit if you don't wish to :-)) What games do you play on the other site? I'm particularly interested in the huge field MTTs, have you any other stories you would particularly like to share about any of those? That will do for now, thanks for taking the time mate.
    Posted by JohnConnor
    When playing any new variant you need to scrub everything you previously know from old variants.  If you go in thinking you are converting what you know previously then you will never reach a full understanding of the new game.  NHL is completely different from PLO hi which is completely different from PLO8.  Just because they are all flop games people get a little confused thinking they are similar.  I've seen the same thing happen in Stud and Stud8.  Go in thinking you are learning a new game.

    Me as a pro?  In truth, maybe one day if I think I'm good enough.  I've already met the criteria given by many pros on the top tips.  I just don't think I'm good enough right now.  Of course if I hit a major bink (Sunday million win etc) I would definitely consider it.

    I play the major one.  I had a brief dalliance with Full Tilt but I just didn't like it at the time, now rhyme or reason for this, just didn't like it.  Of the Sunday majors I normally play the SWU, sometimes the million, and a lot of the 'Bigs' that site offers.  I've had a lot of runs to the 30s-80s without getting to a FT in one of those.

    Got plenty of stories from them but hard to bring many up when needed.  A naughty one was when closing in on the bubble on the Sunday Warm Up.  I was sitting about 100/1700ish which is a great spot to be in.  I look down at two red Aces and see it's been bet and called a couple of times before it got to me.  Lovely.  I 3bet, then there is a dwell from the BB.  He types in the chatbox 'weeeeeeeee' and bets 98% of his stack.  So odd.  I am the only one who voers him but it's all very strange.  Folded to me, I jam, he calls.  He has cold 4bet Nines.  Nine in the door and I'm crippled, didn't even cash in the end.  The worst part was when he typed 'wow' in the chatbox afterwards.  I just didn't need to see a wow there.
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    What's the meaning of life Tommy? Why are we here? But more importantly, how could lolufold go all-in pre (5 bet I think) playing nl500 against Peg1, three handed, with 3d6d. And how do you quantify him cracking Peg's AA with a flopped flush and even avoiding Peg's re-draw? Variance? Peg left with about £2.5K profit so I guess I've already answered my own question. Not sure what the meaning of life is though. Or even why I'm asking. Strange life. Geordie Shore's pretty good though, eh?
    Posted by bandini
    Meaning of life?  Love.  That and Playstation.

    We're here to look after the place until the boss gets back.

    The women on Geordie Shore scare me.
  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Of course if I hit a major bink (Sunday million win etc)
    Posted by TommyD
    That's one sik tourney 250k average 1st place prize for a mere 50dollars!! I would play this every week, shame i work on Mondays, includes early starts too :(.

    Question m8: what preparations do you do before starting each session?(if any) and do you review hands on HM or PT3 (or hh on sky) after each session?

    Thanks m8
  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited February 2012
    sunday mill is 215 buyin iirc
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary.:
    sunday mill is 215 buyin iirc
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    Yes, but the Red Spade Open is $55 and has a similar top end prize, I think that's where the confusion came from.
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