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moving table where`s the justice?

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  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice? : That is very bad logic. The method should be the fair ALL the time, not sometimes beneficial and sometimes a disadvantage... Wonder if we'll ever get an official reply??
    Posted by Poker_Fail
    Has anybody ever asked an official question? This is just a discussion forum
  • EyemanEyeman Member Posts: 1,039
    edited February 2012
    I did post it in the "community suggestions" forum about 6 months ago.
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited February 2012
    I would suggest a PM to Sky Adam or chat with him at an SPT, will try find out if he is at Glasgow or Brighton
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited February 2012
    Sky are not the only online site to adopt this policy it seems

    Quote Deciding which player to move is based on their position relative to the dealer button. We try to move the player who has just been passed by the button, into a seat at the destination table that has also just been passed by the button. But since this is not always possible, we move the person who is closest to this situation, into a position that is also as close to his current one as possible. UnQuote

    Source True Poker
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    Sky are not the only online site to adopt this policy it seems Quote Deciding which player to move is based on their position relative to the dealer button. We try to move the player who has just been passed by the button, into a seat at the destination table that has also just been passed by the button. But since this is not always possible, we move the person who is closest to this situation, into a position that is also as close to his current one as possible. UnQuote Source True Poker
    Posted by SolarCarro
    That's not the same as Sky, Sky always move the player that is on the button. Whoever you are quoting there moves a player who has been passed by the button.

    There's a massive difference, their player was moved after playing a hand on the button. On Sky if you're getting moved you don't get to play a hand from the button. If you happen to get moved to the button on another table on Sky you have to sit out the next hand.

    On Sky a move = no play from the button guaranteed. ****Unfair****

    On quoted site a move = you get to play a hand on the button whenever possible, ie in most situations. ****Fair****
  • SolarCarroSolarCarro Member Posts: 2,273
    edited February 2012
    Yeah read that back you are right

    To be honest there are clearly a lot of people unhappy about it so send a PM to Sky Adam, he is the guy that deals with these sort of things
  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,647
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    Yeah read that back you are right To be honest there are clearly a lot of people unhappy about it so send a PM to Sky Adam, he is the guy that deals with these sort of things
    Posted by SolarCarro

    Will he be able to tell us when C4P's are paid?? :)

    I yet again back eyeman on this subject and, being mainly a MTT player, it does make a difference and it sometimes can be crucial!

    If this is one of Sky Poker's USP's, whereas all other on line sites and live casinos (AFAIK) operate differently, it is not a very good one... wouldn't you agree?
  • MachkaMachka Member Posts: 4,627
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice? : We're down to 9 players. 7 win trips to vegas. 3 players are very short - only 2 or 3 BB each. Player 1 is on a table of 5, he pays the BB, leaving themselves barely above water when the big stack puts all his chips in. He pays the SB. He's down to 1 BB, but there's  3 more hands before he has to pay the BB. PHEW! Player 2 is on the table of 4, he is utg and folds. He's going to be all in by the SB, so when the BB hits him, he's all in. He gets called by a couple of players as is eliminated. Player 3 is on the table of 4. He is down to 3 chips, and is utg (despite a seat free between himself and player 2) when player 2 is eliminated. His 3 chips will have to go into the middle. He's got to win the next 2 hands to survive a circuit....but NO....what's this. Glory be. Player 1 is plonked into the BB seat, and is all in. Player 3 folds quicker than the world ironing champion and wins a £10,000 seat to Vegas. Happy days. Luck of the draw, or **** stupid?
    Posted by Eyeman
    Doesn't seem entirely fair in this example, can you run through the other 362,879 seating combinations for 9 players and let me know about those? ;-)
  • EBBERDONEBBERDON Member Posts: 277
    edited February 2012

    we all play to the same rules so why dont sky move the big blind has live poker
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited February 2012

    YA RITE,

    Small blind  15.00 15.00 4855.00
    andrew1230 Big blind  30.00 45.00 4820.00
     Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 4
       
    BM1093 Call  30.00 75.00 5335.00
    utopian9 Call  30.00 105.00 4945.00
    bozzy2112 Call  30.00 135.00 4120.00
    atcbob69 Call  30.00 165.00 5760.00
    spornybol Call  15.00 180.00 4840.00
    andrew1230 Raise  240.00 420.00 4580.00
    BM1093 Fold     
    utopian9 Fold     
    bozzy2112 Fold     
    atcbob69 Fold     
    spornybol Call  240.00 660.00 4600.00
    Flop
      
    • 3
    • 5
    • 2
       
    spornybol Check     
    andrew1230 Bet  660.00 1320.00 3920.00
    spornybol Call  660.00 1980.00 3940.00
    Turn
      
    • 6
       
    spornybol Check     
    andrew1230 Bet  1980.00 3960.00 1940.00
    spornybol All-in  3940.00 7900.00 0.00
    andrew1230 All-in  1940.00 9840.00 0.00
    spornybol Unmatched bet  20.00 9820.00 20.00
    spornybol Show
    • 7
    • 4
       
    andrew1230 Show
    • 5
    • 5
       
    River
      
    • 2
       
    andrew1230 Win Full House, 5s and 2s 9820.00  9820.00
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited February 2012
    NEXT HAND MOVED JUSTICE MY RUMP
    Big blind  20.00 20.00 0.00
     Your hole cards
    • A
    • 3
       
    Fooey Fold     
    77viper77 Call  30.00 50.00 4885.00
    liono369 Fold     
    lan83 Call  30.00 80.00 5515.00
    Flop
      
    • A
    • 9
    • 10
       
    77viper77 Bet  30.00 110.00 4855.00
    lan83 Call  30.00 140.00 5485.00
    Turn
      
    • 2
       
    77viper77 Bet  30.00 170.00 4825.00
    lan83 Call  30.00 200.00 5455.00
    River
      
    • Q
       
    77viper77 Bet  120.00 320.00 4705.00
    lan83 Call  120.00 440.00 5335.00
    spornybol Show
    • A
    • 3
       
    77viper77 Show
    • 10
    • Q
       
    lan83 Muck
    • A
    • 3
       
    77viper77 Win Two Pairs, Queens and 10s 440.00  5145.00
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited February 2012
    SO HOW MANY TIMES AM I GOING TO GET S/B B/BLIND AND MOVE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, SERIOUSLY NOW TAKING PIDDLE, AND OFF COURSE RIVER TWICE
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited February 2012
    FORGET ABOUT HAND SHOWN, BUT B/BLIND S/BLIND THEN MOVED STRATE TO B/BLIND, CAN`T DO NOTHING ABOUT CHIP STACK BUT AS STATED BACK END OFF TOURNIE THIS WOULD NOT BE RIGHT
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited February 2012
    AMAZING NO RESPONSE HERE, SO ASK LEGIT QUESTION TO GUEST ON SHOW ( BELOW ), SILENCE SPEAKS VOLUMES.

    CONTROVERSIAL, BUT WHAT DO THINK OFF GETTING SMALL BLIND, ONCE YOUR B/BLIND DONE YOU MOVE STRAIGHT TO B/BLIND AGAIN ESP AT LATER STAGES OFF TOURNIES, IS THIS FAIR, SOZ IF PUTTING ON SPOT BUT THAT IS ALSO WHAT THE SHOWS ABOUT, (
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice? : Doesn't seem entirely fair in this example, can you run through the other 362,879 seating combinations for 9 players and let me know about those? ;-)
    Posted by Machka
    Stop being such a smart as s :)
  • bigal36903bigal36903 Member Posts: 1,011
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice? : Stop being such a smart as s :)
    Posted by Poker_Fail



     stop deflecting it away from the main question.. 
  • -Dino66--Dino66- Member Posts: 106
    edited February 2012

    Stars policy on table moves.

    As players are eliminated from the tournament, the software will “break” tables to fill available empty seats. The re-seating of players at broken tables is performed randomly and, although rare, may result in a player having to post multiple big blinds in a row. On occasion, the software may balance tables to ensure all tables have an equal (or as close to equal as possible) number of active players. Players moved individually to balance tables will, when possible, be moved to similar positions relative to the blinds.

  • bigal36903bigal36903 Member Posts: 1,011
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    Stars policy on table moves. As players are eliminated from the tournament, the software will “break” tables to fill available empty seats. The re-seating of players at broken tables is performed randomly and, although rare, may result in a player having to post multiple big blinds in a row. On occasion, the software may balance tables to ensure all tables have an equal (or as close to equal as possible) number of active players. Players moved individually to balance tables will, when possible, be moved to similar positions relative to the blinds.
    Posted by -Dino66-
    cheers dino.  as for the breaking up of the table, that is standard.  wot we are talking about is how you get a move after you had your blinds and then you get them straight away on another table.. 

    i have seen someone be moved from my table and before the next hand has even finished someone else is in their place..

    we are discussing the fact that the wrong person is moved and need sky to change this as you can play your blinds then get moved and have to play your blinds again straight away on your new table..
  • bigal36903bigal36903 Member Posts: 1,011
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: moving table where`s the justice?:
    Can I just say when I get moved they put me in with the big guns and they bully me.!  That's not fair.? 
    Posted by logdon
    now, come on..  i am sure you can quite handle yourself against the big guns..

    if it keeps putting you with them you must know their game by now.. 
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