hi guys wanted your opinion advice comments etc on the following hand. id no241946588 which was played on 25p 50p cash table on sunday 14 march at about 6pm. personally i think my only mistake was calling stoneface initial raise with only an average hand. however once flop came down i dont think i did much wrong. i had him on a big ace or king which was right and dont believe i showed any weakness so how could he make the call on the river i know had the roles been reversed i would have had to fold. he had only just come to table and we have no previous history. would love it if you could show this hand and explain how somebody can make this call. any comments criticisms etc will be gratefully taken on board. many thanks neil purcell. aka callanie. Posted by CALLANIE
We do have history, and Im not going to tell you why I called. Wasnt a bad bluff though. Just against the wrong person. I cant fold paper!!
In Response to Re: Play My Hand requests..... : you mean i cant see my hand played out? Posted by Deadluck
Apologies Deadluck - we did record your hand but we had a few issues with converting several of them. Please feel free to post more and i guarantee we'll show them : )
Hand id 242232801 19.08 0.15-0.30 cash table LEGNICA In this hand I lost all my chips/money to INCHESEAA. Could l have played the hand any diffrently? Or was it just fate the l was going to lose all my chips on this hand. Please give your thoughts you might have on this hand.
hi there would just like your input as to whether or not i played this hand right? and HOW COULD HE MAKE THIS CALL LOL. as a relatively new player to the site an opinion would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance. 200 quid gtd speed played 0n 2010-03-16 id no. 242529494 again many thanks
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Listen up! FOUR "Play My Hand" Requests were recorded yesterday, two by James Hartyigan, & two by myself, & they will start appearing on the Channel from tonight (Thursday). The four hands featured...... RED KING AdamW 4Jacks Willhelm Enjoy! Posted by Tikay10
Hi Tikay, Watched my hands back tonight, James didn't clarify my question on the first hand, although I was ahead pre-flop, hit trips on the turn, then rivered a house. My concern was after the flop, I was last (3rd) to act, after a big bet then a shove all-in. First bet I'm thinking top pair(10s) + top kicker or a higher pair, the all-in is trips from limped-in small pair.
Is calling the turn with AA after a big bet and all-in on a dry flop by two limpers, good long term strategy?
In Response to Re: Play My Hand requests..... : Hi Tikay, Watched my hands back tonight, James didn't clarify my question on the first hand, although I was ahead pre-flop, hit trips on the turn, then rivered a house. My concern was after the flop, I was last (3rd) to act, after a big bet then a shove all-in. First bet I'm thinking top pair(10s) + top kicker or a higher pair, the all-in is trips from limped-in small pair. Is calling the turn with AA after a big bet and all-in on a dry flop by two limpers, good long term strategy? Posted by Red_King
Hi Red_King,
Apologies if you feel I didn't answer your question. I did say in the segment that it's tough to analyse a micro-stakes NLHE game where everyone's short stacked, but I did my best :-)
In this particular hand, I don't remember the guy with QT making a "big bet" on the flop. I think he led out for roughly 3/4 of the pot? So, pretty standard. And, if memory serves me correctly, the player who went all-in (with 77) was super short-stacked - and shoved for roughly 14bbs? In my opinion, in this particular situation, with an over-pair to the board, this is an easy decision - insta-call (or insta-shove, if you want to freeze out the QT merchant)!
As far as "long term strategy" is concerned, bet sizes, stack sizes, opponent's style/range etc. are all significant factors. Poker is situational, so it's impossible to say 'always call' or 'always fold'.
In Response to Re: Play My Hand requests..... : Hi Red_King, Apologies if you feel I didn't answer your question. I did say in the segment that it's tough to analyse a micro-stakes NLHE game where everyone's short stacked, but I did my best :-) In this particular hand, I don't remember the guy with QT making a "big bet" on the flop. I think he led out for roughly 3/4 of the pot? So, pretty standard. And, if memory serves me correctly, the player who went all-in (with 77) was super short-stacked - and shoved for roughly 14bbs? In my opinion, in this particular situation, with an over-pair to the board, this is an easy decision - insta-call (or insta-shove, if you want to freeze out the QT merchant)! As far as "long term strategy" is concerned, bet sizes, stack sizes, opponent's style/range etc. are all significant factors. Poker is situational, so it's impossible to say 'always call' or 'always fold'. James. Posted by J-Hartigan
Sorry James, The way I read it, I've got P1 covered with possible T,(A), but with P2 shoving with possible set, I've only got one out to catch P2 up? I'm calling to keep P1 in the side pot. I just thought I got lucky with the A on the turn, which I thought was the only one left in the deck.
In Response to Re: Play My Hand requests..... : Sorry James, The way I read it, I've got P1 covered with possible T,(A), but with P2 shoving with possible set, I've only got one out to catch P2 up? I'm calling to keep P1 in the side pot. I just thought I got lucky with the A on the turn, which I thought was the only one left in the deck. Posted by Red_King
I don't think you need to obsess TOO much over P2's range, because he's super short-stacked and shoving for next to nothing. He's called off so many of his chips pre-flop, that he'll make that all-in move with plenty of hands that you have crushed (e.g. AT, KT, QT, JT, JJ, 99, 88, 77). And, on the rare occasion that he DOES have a set, it won't cost you that much. Plus - you still have outs. Plus - you can make more than you've just lost by winning the side-pot against P1, who you've correctly put on top pair!
In Response to Re: Play My Hand requests..... : I don't think you need to obsess TOO much over P2's range, because he's super short-stacked and shoving for next to nothing. He's called off so many of his chips pre-flop, that he'll make that all-in move with plenty of hands that you have crushed (e.g. AT, KT, QT, JT, JJ, 99, 88, 77). And, on the rare occasion that he DOES have a set, it won't cost you that much. Plus - you still have outs. Plus - you can make more than you've just lost by winning the side-pot against P1, who you've correctly put on top pair! Hope that helps, James. Posted by J-Hartigan
Hi, I've got a few hands I was involved in this morning;
I had never played 50p/£1 before, I wouldn't really consider myself a cash player but I was feeling confident!
ID - 243820137
table - master cash 11
date - 21/03
time - 02.38
This was my 6th hand in the session, I had no reads on individual players, just a general thought on how players would play at this level, (from watching master cash).
River bet
My thought process when I was faced with a awkward decision on the river was; AHOORA probably doesn't bet that with a marginally better hand than the pair of Aces - like 2-pair, I can't see him having flopped the set as the flop was quite dangerous and surely it would have been raised on the flop or turn to protect the set. As I said I had no individual reads on any players but I know in general players at this level can and will make moves, this helped me make the decision for 2 reasons, if he had the 7 in his hand, it is possible he'd have made a semi-bluff raise on the flop or turn and secondly, this bet may also be a move, a danger card has come - a pot is there to be won. I end up calling - I'm getting 3/1 to make the call, I think I'm ahead here.
ID - 243820545
table - mc11
date - 21/03
time - 02.42
In this hand, I've made a raise pre-flop, hit, made the continuation bet and then checked the turn.
Turn Check
I felt I was ahead here. I didn't feel FREELANCER was strong enough to call a third bet so I check, yes it is a risk letting him hitting on the river, but if he doesn't, the only way he will win the hand is with a bet, my check may encourage him to follow up with a river-bet or even a check-raise - increasing the value from the hand. The pot is only £20, even if I do get sucked-out, I didn't feel I could lose my stack in this hand, or maybe that was just my naivety.
I improve on the river, FREELANCER checks, I bet £12 into the £19.50 hoping it looks like a last-ditch attempt to steal the pot, my opponent correctly folds.
ID - 243821022
table - mc11
date - 21/03
time - 02.47
I decide to dance, I raise it with an 8-10 of diamonds, I feel I have a tight image at the table, I get one call, an 8-high flop, and a paired-board on the turn. The river brings a 3rd 4 - I check and call the bet.
River Check
My thoughts here are my opponent has either a 4, an over-pair or I am ahead with the full house. My reasoning behind the check is (1), I'm not going to lose as much if I am behind than if I had bet then walked into an all-in or big raise - pot control you could say, (2), by betting it would probably mean my opponent -who I had seen river-bet lightly against me previously- it would take away the chance of him betting into me with a worse hand.
River Call
I called the bet on the end because of the last hand I had played against this player, I knew the bet was coming, I've still got my original buy-in behind even if I'm wrong, there is £100 in the middle, £44 to call, I make it.
Finally (no big pot here)
ID - 243822558
table - mc11
date - 21/03
time - 03.04
I'm on the big blind, I call a button raise with a rag-Ace, this wasn't the biggest hand I won that night but I'm pleased with the way I played it on the flop.
Flop Check-Raise
I check raised the original raiser, I feel a check-raise is a strong move, I felt I needed to find out whether my opponent had caught more of this than me, I used the basics to find out where I was and I won a nice small pot.
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I'd like to know if any of these hands will be broadcast because I'd like to see what the analysts think of these plays/calls.
hand id - 243686986, cash table. I lay down the bottom full house, but was it a good laydown or was it an easy fold. I have just started playing cash and was having a decent session making the odd move or showing the best hands. I think i made a mistake on the turn, with my bet size, as i think gave the right price to draws etc. Am i right?
i was putting villain on aj/aq/kq - his bet out on the scary flop suggested he had at least 2nd pair so i raise continuing my preflop strength of raising utg - he flats, definately put him on at least a J - maybe a weaker draw but i bet 3/4 pot on turn which brings the flush and he flats again so i put him on a pretty strong Q, river comes an 8 so straights and flushes out there. my bet on turn was to setup a river shove of 22 in to 24 which i do and he folds. what do u think of the play? spewy or believable?!
I put in a bluff which got through against a player whom had been raising light. I was on position and it had just been called to me he came out betting after flop which i took to be weak but when he called my re-raise i put in a meaty bet with nothing after turn(i was trying to re-present ace with good kicker). which got through. My question is was my strategy too risky or was i right to put my bluff in to steal the pot?
Id : 244441375 £80 guarenteed on 23.03.2010 the time was 13.52 I have a bit of a reputation of bubbling in games. Both cash and final table bubble. This time i came 7th in this game due to my worst bad beat ever. It was a proper 2% draw when all the chips went in. Just thought a few people might find it funny. Next time I'll just fold lol Cheers Tigger3000
Comments
Cheers,
as a relatively new player to the site an opinion would be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance.
200 quid gtd speed
played 0n 2010-03-16
id no. 242529494
again many thanks
Listen up!
FOUR "Play My Hand" Requests were recorded yesterday, two by James Hartyigan, & two by myself, & they will start appearing on the Channel from tonight (Thursday).
The four hands featured......
RED KING
AdamW
4Jacks
Willhelm
Enjoy!
Watched my hands back tonight, James didn't clarify my question on the first hand,
although I was ahead pre-flop, hit trips on the turn, then rivered a house.
My concern was after the flop, I was last (3rd) to act, after a big bet then a shove all-in.
First bet I'm thinking top pair(10s) + top kicker or a higher pair, the all-in is trips from limped-in small pair.
Is calling the turn with AA after a big bet and all-in on a dry flop by two limpers, good long term strategy?
The way I read it, I've got P1 covered with possible T,(A), but with P2 shoving with possible set,
I've only got one out to catch P2 up? I'm calling to keep P1 in the side pot.
I just thought I got lucky with the A on the turn, which I thought was the only one left in the deck.
could you show this hand please, the forum needs to know the outcome, some hefty sidebets have been placed
Much appreciated
Hi
Can you have a go at this hand, please.
hand id - 243686986, cash table.
I lay down the bottom full house, but was it a good laydown or was it an easy fold.
I have just started playing cash and was having a decent session making the odd move or showing the best hands.
I think i made a mistake on the turn, with my bet size, as i think gave the right price to draws etc.
Am i right?
regards
col
Master cash table 9
I put in a bluff which got through against a player whom had been raising light. I was on position and it had just been called to me
he came out betting after flop which i took to be weak but when he called my re-raise i put in a meaty bet with nothing after turn(i was trying to re-present ace with good kicker). which got through.
My question is was my strategy too risky or was i right to put my bluff in to steal the pot?
Any abuse welcome!
Thanks
£80 guarenteed on 23.03.2010 the time was 13.52
I have a bit of a reputation of bubbling in games. Both cash and final table bubble. This time i came 7th in this game due to my worst bad beat ever. It was a proper 2% draw when all the chips went in. Just thought a few people might find it funny. Next time I'll just fold lol
Cheers Tigger3000