thanks for your honesty,i have been trying to improve my game,and dont limp as much now,i have been running late into some tournaments,at times i play well,but all of a sudden, i push the self destruct button,but at least i know whats happening,but no more limping, thank you
hi tikay, thanks for your honesty,i have been trying to improve my game,and dont limp as much now,i have been running late into some tournaments,at times i play well,but all of a sudden, i push the self destruct button,but at least i know whats happening,but no more limping, thank you Posted by thejudge10
Well done Your Honour.
It's not so much "no limping", as there ARE times, & spots, where it's OK, but NOT as a default setting.
In Tourneys, almost all players limp too much, & play too many hands. I could weep when I see everyone serial-limping & calling all the time, because it's the short cut to Carey Street.
If you....
1) Limp less.
2) Play FEWER hands early doors, then gradually up the VPIP rate as the Tourney progresses. Early doors play maybe 1 hand in 20, whereas late on, (last 2 Tables) be in more pots than not.
3) Play fewer hands, but play them better & stronger.
4) Remember that position & patience are key.....
Then you will never lose money, assuming you have a grasp of the basic fundamentals.
Why is not MICKJEAN1 in sky poker team.He s the best player on this site. Posted by martin111
Welcome to the Sky Community, Martin, & that's an interesting first Post.
I'm not sure how you define "best" in poker, & Mick is a fine player, but whether he is "the best" is a matter of opinion. I think you'll find plenty agree, & plenty disagree. We'll never know, really, as it's not that simple to judge.
FWIW, I reckon I had about 100 PM's telling me who the best player on Sky Poker is. They mostly of them nominated different players, but nearly half of them claimed it was themself.
hello just wondering what can i do to get a free ticket to the promo this weekend? always watch you on sky poker channel your a funny funny guy . Posted by CUTTHROAT
Thank you Mr Throat.
Free tickets are like free dinners I'm afraid. They are never quite free.....
Hiya Tikay I,ve just been watching the clips from the SPT in Blackpool on youtube, but i didn,t see any hands been played. As the cameras were showing some of the hands as they were being played out is there anwhere i can find them to watch? Paul Posted by MP33
Hi Paul,
I'm not sure, but I doubt it, to be honest. They just don't have the time or resource to edit everything they film at SPT Events.
For every minute of film shot, it takes 8 or 10 minutes in the Edit Suite, & they really need to spend their money carefully. There is an incredible range of demands on the Promotion budget (& in effect, Channel 865 is a Promotional cost, for which the "payback" is extremely hard to quantify), & for every £ spent on Channel 865, that means a £ less to spend on other Promotions, such as Freerolls, SPT's, PTP, Leagues, Prizes, coverage of TSP & Vegas, the Community, da de da.
It's a tough spot to try to please everyone really, & as you'll have seen from the Forum, some folks are not shy when it comes to complaining about these things. Did you know that 2% of the players do 95% of the moaning? Lolz, it's true!
One spotty young Gentleman wrote to me & said that Sky Poker had got their promotional spend all wrong, & ended "it's not that hard, guys, do buck up". I felt like asking him what his experience of running an Online Poker Room was. But he also said "you should spend 40% on the Channel, & 75% on Freerolls", & it was only with some difficulty that I resisted asking where he got his maths degree. If only I could reply "It's not that hard mate, do buck up".......
Look forward to seeing you in Newcastle, & if the 865 Cameras are there, come see me, & I'll ask Mother if an Interview with you can be arranged.
Hi Tikay, First of all congrats on winning the main event the other night. Couldnt happen to a nicer player. I was just wondering if you "loosen up" a bit when playing on your PTP account and your normal "uber-tight" game on your personal account. Steve Posted by bigbiker22
Hi Steve,
You reminded me of this in a later Post, my apologies for the delay in replying. Take it as a compliment, though, as it's a great question, & I always like to leave the best until last. Which is why I always eat potatoes last when I have a meal, I love spuds, & could live on them, even marry one, & we'd make potato love, & start a family of little potatoes. They'd be called new potatoes, obv.
Do I "loosen up" on my PTP Account, (TIKAY10) & play uber-tight on my private account (tikay1)?
No! In fact, it's EXACTLY the opposite.
It's partly an old-fashioned financial morality thing. I hate being given money, I prefer to earn my own money, & then I feel much better when I use it.
My PTP account is not my money, it belongs to the Company. So I get nothing for winning on it, & lose nothing (financially) if I lose the lot.
I represent this Company in some areas, & to lose my Company Bankroll would be a matter of some shame to me, & a dent to my professional pride in my job. Players do, of course, "spite call" me, but that's as broad as it's long.
I was "given" £500 nearly 3 years ago now on a "Test" PTP Account, which we trialled for about 10 months, then the PTP Programme began properly, & I've played 1 or 2 nights a week ever since on it. I still have the original Bankroll (plus some....), & it's never been topped up. I've managed that by playing ultra-cautious, & being quite selective as to what Levels I play, though at one stage, they asked me to play some £1-£2 on it, which was a bit scary on that 'roll. It swings up & down, never been more than £2,000, never less than £250, but when it swings to the lower end - variance happens - I grind out a few sessions of cash to get it back into comfort zone, despite the fact I don't much enjoy Texas Hold Em cash.
My Private account is totally different, & I play with a lot more freedom on that, & a great deal "wider" in game style. I try to avoid playing Omaha on my Company account, as it is so swingy, so if I see a decent Omaha Hi-Lo game going, I'll always sit in on my personal account if I can. The thing with Omaha, much more so than NLH, is that you MUST be prepared, & frequently, to get the lot in the middle quite often, so 4 & 5 BI swings are inevitable. The thought of doing that with other people's money (the Company's) scares the life out of me. I have a decent 'roll on another site, which I use exclusively for $5 $10 Omaha & Hi-Lo, but we won't talk about that, eh? When the higher end liquidity at Omaha Hi-Lo improves here at Sky Poker, as it will in time, I'll quit the other account.
In the same vein, I stake quite a few players, "buy some action" in them in Live Poker, but I've not accepted people buying action in me for 6 years now. (After a very well-known player screwed me for what he owed me). In truth, as many would readily suggest, people don't WANT to buy my action, as I'm not that good!, but I would not accept it anyway, I just feel all wrong playing with other peeps money, & I play scared. And anyway, I play at level I can comfortably afford, so I never play scared poker & I don't throw a strop when I lose. It's the financial pain that causes players to get so mardy & miffed when they lose, or course. Play within your bankroll, & it does not hurt when we, lose, simples.
I have been sponsored a few times - by various Companies - but I hated the pressure. I chopped the £500 London Masters when sponsored, cashed in a WSOP Event ditto, & 2 or 3 other sponsorship deals, & I think I cashed just about every time I was sponsored into Live Events. But I hated the pressure.
Sky Poker asked me to play the £220 recently, on their account, & I never much enjoyed the thought of that, either, so I requested to be allowed to pay for it myself. That worked great, as I bubbled, marv!
And now, they want me to play the Newcastle SPT. I've never played an SPT Event, & often quite wish I could, but really, I'd rather not, as the pressure on me will be enormous.
There's nowt as **** as folk, & that especially goes for me.
A great, great, question, thank you Steve, & good luck at the Tables, buddy.
Look forward to seeing you in Newcastle, & if the 865 Cameras are there, come see me, & I'll ask Mother if an Interview with you can be arranged
lol - just wanted to see me win a hand against dantb10 as it was just as the camera came over and he got miked up. Did actually turn the chance down of an interview. Just don,t feel like going on the adverts telling everyone how i play - maybe nxt time - cheers for the photo tho and maybe nxt time you can tell me all about the Ribble bridge
I have just played a sit and go with Magicalman. He is a sky team player. Halfway through the game there was an all in followed by two callers one of callers who called 3rd had 88. After the hand finished. magicalman wrote on the chatbox that the caller with 88 should not have called and was a moron. Although I agree the call was not the best I think it is very disrespectful for another player to call him a moron, especially when the player is meant to be representing Sky.I think his comments are very bad and also reflect badly on the site Posted by BG92
I have found this guy to be generally rude + insulting when losing a hand
I know it says "Team Sky" under his alias (where he,s from) and after commenting on this, he was adamant he was in Team Sky and told me to look on the forum if I didn,t beleive him.
I think he may be in the freeroll competions under Team sky and he is just not aware of the propper "Team Sky" but agree , it doesn,t look good. The team Sky players i have met are excellent abbassadors for the game and would never make comments like he does
played in tikay tournament last night 15 th nov for the first time not that good at poker but got addicted dont know how but got to final table my biggest problem is were and what to bet so as you said tikay pick a spread to play and dont get carried away was enjoying my run but there was comments made on the site think they were directed at me as bad play how am i to lean if all you get are comments about bad play a few words of wisdom would not have gone a miss can you tell me what i was doing so wrong finished 2nd or should i not play
played in tikay tournament last night 15 th nov for the first time not that good at poker but got addicted dont know how but got to final table my biggest problem is were and what to bet so as you said tikay pick a spread to play and dont get carried away was enjoying my run but there was comments made on the site think they were directed at me as bad play how am i to lean if all you get are comments about bad play a few words of wisdom would not have gone a miss can you tell me what i was doing so wrong finished 2nd or should i not play Posted by innit
Good morning innit.
What did you do wrong? Well, finishing 2nd of 115, & getting nearly £36 for £2.20 suggests not much, short of winning it. 113 of the field would swap with you, for sure.
I'm very disappointed, but not at all surprised, to hear you received negative comments in the chat-box about your play.
It's a particularly regretful trait of poker players to complain about other players, more especially when they get beaten. Whatever happened to dignity in defeat?
It may help if you remember something. Many poker players ONLY complain when they lose, or are beaten by you, or when you "mix it up" & end up beating them. They keep schtum when THEY win, & moan when they lose. So take it as a compliment.
Players, especially the younger ones, have been mocking my play for 10 years or more, but I don't lose any money, & refuse to be a sheep & follow the fashionable trends.
A Gentleman wrote to me last week & mocked the way a player had played a hand, saying "that player must be old school, these days we don't play like that".
These days? Give me a break! Handsome is as handsome does.
The player he was mocking, by the way, was JAKALLY, who has made a tidy income from the game for longer than most of them have even been playing. He does not play outside of his 'roll, & does not need to be staked to play big games. Because he's a long-term winner. Go figure.
Play the game anyway you want, Mr innit, it's your money, & ignore the losers. Correction, ignore the bad losers. Because that's what they are.
PS - Two of the players in last night's TOTTY Final were GregHogg, & TALON, & two more helpful players you could not wish to meet. Listen to them, not the bad losers. As a matter of curiosity, were the complaints from those in the Final, or from "the Rail"?
I was watching this final table, the comments weren't bad, they were about poker, more discussing a hand rather than any sort of criticism. You'll see alot worse.
And innit, they weren't talking to/about you, it was a conversation between the other 2 players, Greg, and the guy who won the tournament - about Greggs exit hand, and the arguably questionable call that the guy made to eliminate him in 3rd place.
Obviously Greg was disappointed to exit in 3rd place, but vented his frustration in an acceptable way, I know the feeling of being sent to the rail in a situation like that, and it's so hard not to say something. I think the quote was "learn to fold please" - which is as soft as it gets.
Anyway, it was a good result for you, well played.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Welcome to the Sky Community, Martin, & that's an interesting first Post. I'm not sure how you define "best" in poker, & Mick is a fine player, but whether he is " the best" is a matter of opinion. I think you'll find plenty agree, & plenty disagree. We'll never know, really, as it's not that simple to judge. FWIW, I reckon I had about 100 PM's telling me who the best player on Sky Poker is. They mostly of them nominated different players, but nearly half of them claimed it was themself. They can't all be right. Or wrong. Posted by Tikay10
thanks for the reply might have taken comments to heart was surprised to see tv players playing on 2 pound stake as i watch sky poker for 30 mins most nights did know some of the names ive never played cash or live out of work so watching pennies won free roll twice in one day finnished 3rd in the evenning finding it hard to play good players for low out lay dont think i will get to LA unless liverpool air port never read a book or watched a video on poker would like to know best way to improve im like you tikay if ishove with aces and get called by 2 8 and lose thats the gods or an unknown sense always say gl with my chpis they always get to the final and end in the winners stack so they are never wasted just sad im not with them Pity i cant watch it back GOOD LUCK ALL
The other night i was playing a pub poker league game,£5 buyin with 15 players.Not to long into 4 handed play with blinds at 1000-2000 no ante me and 2 other players had about 13000 chips and thebig stack was on around 22000.I noticed the table was quite thight with hands folding round to the bb a lot so i thought i should be quite aggressive and push quite wide also because there were only 4 players and my stack was quite low.my question is with 3 places paying out do you think there is ever an argument for playing a bit thighter there as 3 players were so short stacked or would you always just play for the win[unless all prizes were the same as in a satalite] THANKS
The other night i was playing a pub poker league game,£5 buyin with 15 players.Not to long into 4 handed play with blinds at 1000-2000 no ante me and 2 other players had about 13000 chips and thebig stack was on around 22000.I noticed the table was quite thight with hands folding round to the bb a lot so i thought i should be quite aggressive and push quite wide also because there were only 4 players and my stack was quite low.my question is with 3 places paying out do you think there is ever an argument for playing a bit thighter there as 3 players were so short stacked or would you always just play for the win[unless all prizes were the same as in a satalite] THANKS Posted by goingall22
Hi
In my opinion, you need to be doing opposite of the table, so, if they are playing tight, get more aggro, put the presure on them, obv, if the table is loose, tighten up.
The other night i was playing a pub poker league game,£5 buyin with 15 players.Not to long into 4 handed play with blinds at 1000-2000 no ante me and 2 other players had about 13000 chips and thebig stack was on around 22000.I noticed the table was quite thight with hands folding round to the bb a lot so i thought i should be quite aggressive and push quite wide also because there were only 4 players and my stack was quite low.my question is with 3 places paying out do you think there is ever an argument for playing a bit thighter there as 3 players were so short stacked or would you always just play for the win[unless all prizes were the same as in a satalite] THANKS Posted by goingall22
Hi goingallin,
You have 6.5 x BB, & it's costing you, in effect, 750 chips PER HAND, soon to increase (assuming Blinds go 1,500-3,000 next) 1,125 per hand.
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thanks for your honesty,i have been trying to improve my game,and dont limp as much now,i have been running late into some tournaments,at times i play well,but all of a sudden, i push the self destruct button,but at least i know whats happening,but no more limping, thank you
It's not so much "no limping", as there ARE times, & spots, where it's OK, but NOT as a default setting.
In Tourneys, almost all players limp too much, & play too many hands. I could weep when I see everyone serial-limping & calling all the time, because it's the short cut to Carey Street.
If you....
1) Limp less.
2) Play FEWER hands early doors, then gradually up the VPIP rate as the Tourney progresses. Early doors play maybe 1 hand in 20, whereas late on, (last 2 Tables) be in more pots than not.
3) Play fewer hands, but play them better & stronger.
4) Remember that position & patience are key.....
Then you will never lose money, assuming you have a grasp of the basic fundamentals.
Good luck.
I'm not sure how you define "best" in poker, & Mick is a fine player, but whether he is "the best" is a matter of opinion. I think you'll find plenty agree, & plenty disagree. We'll never know, really, as it's not that simple to judge.
FWIW, I reckon I had about 100 PM's telling me who the best player on Sky Poker is. They mostly of them nominated different players, but nearly half of them claimed it was themself.
They can't all be right. Or wrong.
Free tickets are like free dinners I'm afraid. They are never quite free.....
I'm not sure, but I doubt it, to be honest. They just don't have the time or resource to edit everything they film at SPT Events.
For every minute of film shot, it takes 8 or 10 minutes in the Edit Suite, & they really need to spend their money carefully. There is an incredible range of demands on the Promotion budget (& in effect, Channel 865 is a Promotional cost, for which the "payback" is extremely hard to quantify), & for every £ spent on Channel 865, that means a £ less to spend on other Promotions, such as Freerolls, SPT's, PTP, Leagues, Prizes, coverage of TSP & Vegas, the Community, da de da.
It's a tough spot to try to please everyone really, & as you'll have seen from the Forum, some folks are not shy when it comes to complaining about these things. Did you know that 2% of the players do 95% of the moaning? Lolz, it's true!
One spotty young Gentleman wrote to me & said that Sky Poker had got their promotional spend all wrong, & ended "it's not that hard, guys, do buck up". I felt like asking him what his experience of running an Online Poker Room was. But he also said "you should spend 40% on the Channel, & 75% on Freerolls", & it was only with some difficulty that I resisted asking where he got his maths degree. If only I could reply "It's not that hard mate, do buck up".......
Look forward to seeing you in Newcastle, & if the 865 Cameras are there, come see me, & I'll ask Mother if an Interview with you can be arranged.
You reminded me of this in a later Post, my apologies for the delay in replying. Take it as a compliment, though, as it's a great question, & I always like to leave the best until last. Which is why I always eat potatoes last when I have a meal, I love spuds, & could live on them, even marry one, & we'd make potato love, & start a family of little potatoes. They'd be called new potatoes, obv.
Do I "loosen up" on my PTP Account, (TIKAY10) & play uber-tight on my private account (tikay1)?
No! In fact, it's EXACTLY the opposite.
It's partly an old-fashioned financial morality thing. I hate being given money, I prefer to earn my own money, & then I feel much better when I use it.
My PTP account is not my money, it belongs to the Company. So I get nothing for winning on it, & lose nothing (financially) if I lose the lot.
I represent this Company in some areas, & to lose my Company Bankroll would be a matter of some shame to me, & a dent to my professional pride in my job. Players do, of course, "spite call" me, but that's as broad as it's long.
I was "given" £500 nearly 3 years ago now on a "Test" PTP Account, which we trialled for about 10 months, then the PTP Programme began properly, & I've played 1 or 2 nights a week ever since on it. I still have the original Bankroll (plus some....), & it's never been topped up. I've managed that by playing ultra-cautious, & being quite selective as to what Levels I play, though at one stage, they asked me to play some £1-£2 on it, which was a bit scary on that 'roll. It swings up & down, never been more than £2,000, never less than £250, but when it swings to the lower end - variance happens - I grind out a few sessions of cash to get it back into comfort zone, despite the fact I don't much enjoy Texas Hold Em cash.
My Private account is totally different, & I play with a lot more freedom on that, & a great deal "wider" in game style. I try to avoid playing Omaha on my Company account, as it is so swingy, so if I see a decent Omaha Hi-Lo game going, I'll always sit in on my personal account if I can. The thing with Omaha, much more so than NLH, is that you MUST be prepared, & frequently, to get the lot in the middle quite often, so 4 & 5 BI swings are inevitable. The thought of doing that with other people's money (the Company's) scares the life out of me. I have a decent 'roll on another site, which I use exclusively for $5 $10 Omaha & Hi-Lo, but we won't talk about that, eh? When the higher end liquidity at Omaha Hi-Lo improves here at Sky Poker, as it will in time, I'll quit the other account.
In the same vein, I stake quite a few players, "buy some action" in them in Live Poker, but I've not accepted people buying action in me for 6 years now. (After a very well-known player screwed me for what he owed me). In truth, as many would readily suggest, people don't WANT to buy my action, as I'm not that good!, but I would not accept it anyway, I just feel all wrong playing with other peeps money, & I play scared. And anyway, I play at level I can comfortably afford, so I never play scared poker & I don't throw a strop when I lose. It's the financial pain that causes players to get so mardy & miffed when they lose, or course. Play within your bankroll, & it does not hurt when we, lose, simples.
I have been sponsored a few times - by various Companies - but I hated the pressure. I chopped the £500 London Masters when sponsored, cashed in a WSOP Event ditto, & 2 or 3 other sponsorship deals, & I think I cashed just about every time I was sponsored into Live Events. But I hated the pressure.
Sky Poker asked me to play the £220 recently, on their account, & I never much enjoyed the thought of that, either, so I requested to be allowed to pay for it myself. That worked great, as I bubbled, marv!
And now, they want me to play the Newcastle SPT. I've never played an SPT Event, & often quite wish I could, but really, I'd rather not, as the pressure on me will be enormous.
There's nowt as **** as folk, & that especially goes for me.
A great, great, question, thank you Steve, & good luck at the Tables, buddy.
Thanks for such a detailed answer Tikay.
One day I hope to be able to play some of the main events but will have to wait for my BR to be a bit healthier.
Thanks again for the reply and hopefully will get to play at the same table as you one day.
Steve
lol - just wanted to see me win a hand against dantb10 as it was just as the camera came over and he got miked up. Did actually turn the chance down of an interview. Just don,t feel like going on the adverts telling everyone how i play - maybe nxt time - cheers for the photo tho and maybe nxt time you can tell me all about the Ribble bridge
Gonna make sure i,m on time for Newcastle
I know it says "Team Sky" under his alias (where he,s from) and after commenting on this, he was adamant he was in Team Sky and told me to look on the forum if I didn,t beleive him.
I think he may be in the freeroll competions under Team sky and he is just not aware of the propper "Team Sky" but agree , it doesn,t look good. The team Sky players i have met are excellent abbassadors for the game and would never make comments like he does
Paul
What did you do wrong? Well, finishing 2nd of 115, & getting nearly £36 for £2.20 suggests not much, short of winning it. 113 of the field would swap with you, for sure.
I'm very disappointed, but not at all surprised, to hear you received negative comments in the chat-box about your play.
It's a particularly regretful trait of poker players to complain about other players, more especially when they get beaten. Whatever happened to dignity in defeat?
It may help if you remember something. Many poker players ONLY complain when they lose, or are beaten by you, or when you "mix it up" & end up beating them. They keep schtum when THEY win, & moan when they lose. So take it as a compliment.
Players, especially the younger ones, have been mocking my play for 10 years or more, but I don't lose any money, & refuse to be a sheep & follow the fashionable trends.
A Gentleman wrote to me last week & mocked the way a player had played a hand, saying "that player must be old school, these days we don't play like that".
These days? Give me a break! Handsome is as handsome does.
The player he was mocking, by the way, was JAKALLY, who has made a tidy income from the game for longer than most of them have even been playing. He does not play outside of his 'roll, & does not need to be staked to play big games. Because he's a long-term winner. Go figure.
Play the game anyway you want, Mr innit, it's your money, & ignore the losers. Correction, ignore the bad losers. Because that's what they are.
PS - Two of the players in last night's TOTTY Final were GregHogg, & TALON, & two more helpful players you could not wish to meet. Listen to them, not the bad losers. As a matter of curiosity, were the complaints from those in the Final, or from "the Rail"?
i am only the 2nd best player on sky poker imo
The other night i was playing a pub poker league game,£5 buyin with 15 players.Not to long into 4 handed play with blinds at 1000-2000 no ante me and 2 other players had about 13000 chips and thebig stack was on around 22000.I noticed the table was quite thight with hands folding round to the bb a lot so i thought i should be quite aggressive and push quite wide also because there were only 4 players and my stack was quite low.my question is with 3 places paying out do you think there is ever an argument for playing a bit thighter there as 3 players were so short stacked or would you always just play for the win[unless all prizes were the same as in a satalite] THANKS
In my opinion, you need to be doing opposite of the table, so, if they are playing tight, get more aggro, put the presure on them, obv, if the table is loose, tighten up.
You have 6.5 x BB, & it's costing you, in effect, 750 chips PER HAND, soon to increase (assuming Blinds go 1,500-3,000 next) 1,125 per hand.
Just shove BLIND in ANY unopened Pot.