not a question tikay, just a thank you for your reponse to the "is it a place to learn" thread with respect to the standard of the nl4 players like me. i've responded on the thread, hopefully, with clarity to the posters question. then again it was in english!! i for one do not think Sky neglect the lower levels, or any level for that matter. The Premiership league and Cup tournies a case in point and the £2.20 deepstacks which i will, one day, get around to playing when i get the chance. the forums are also another example. good luck at the tables although i doubt you need it as much as i do! Posted by walesboy
Thanks very much Walesy, nice of you to say so.
Sky Poker, £ for £, spend more on Freerolls & supporting the Community than any other Site, & I think they try to look after everyone, no matter what their spend level is. Sadly, like all poker Forums (fora?), we have our share of Moaning Minnies, & they seem to make more noise than everyone else!
I really was not at all comfy with "that" thread, but that's another story.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Thanks very much Walesy, nice of you to say so. Sky Poker, £ for £, spend more on Freerolls & supporting the Community than any other Site, & I think they try to look after everyone, no matter what their spend level is. Sadly, like all poker Forums (fora?), we have our share of Moaning Minnies, & they seem to make more noise than everyone else! I really was not at all comfy with "that" thread, but that's another story. PS - Post more! Posted by Tikay10
As you know I'm new to the sit (3 months) & play at the low stakes
I feel that you DO cater to us guys so a big thumbs up!!
A £2.20 deepie somewhere in the afternoon between the 2.20pm & 7.15pm (especially at weekends) might plug a gap though.
I would just like to echo walesboy post. I am a low stakes player and have been for a while now, I cant really see what else Sky or youself could be doing for us. Us happy people probably dont post as much as the "moaners" but this doesn't mean we don't appreciate the effort that you put in.
Hi Tikay, When sat at a table in live play, You look around and see a 18-20 year old sat across from you, Do you prejudge them and look at them as less experienced as anyone else at the table?
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : As you know I'm new to the sit (3 months) & play at the low stakes I feel that you DO cater to us guys so a big thumbs up!! A £2.20 deepie somewhere in the afternoon between the 2.20pm & 7.15pm (especially at weekends) might plug a gap though. Posted by Ploppy33
Thanks Plopper.
I don't know the full schedule, as it rolls through the day, & tomorrow's Tourneys are not necessarily all up yet, but there are various Toureys which meet exactly that criteria.
There is a "220 @ 220" (£2.20 @ 2.20PM) every day, which attracts a decent & enthusiastic field of regulars, & every evening at 7.15, there is a £2.20 Deepie too.
A little tip which might help you see what suits you from the overall Tourney schedule.
Go to the Tourney Lobby, & click the "Buy-In" link at the head of the Buy-In column. That will then sort every Tourney (EXCEPT those in the Highlighted section at the very top) into buy-in value, ascending or descending. If it opens in ascending order (from freerolls up) & you want it the other way round, just click it again.
Same with type of Tourney. If you prefer Deep Stacks, for example, click the "Tournament" tab, & it sorts all Tourneys into first numeric (value) then alphabetical. Again, click it again to turn it the other way round.
The same trick works with all the Tourney, Sit & Go, & Cash Lobby tabs.
TK - when is the Mastercash episode with LOLUFOLD next being shown? Tried the Sky planner but it doens't show details of which mastercash. Posted by scotty77
Hi Ryan,
I gather it will next be aired on Wednesday 24th November, at 5pm.
PS - Whollly unrelated, but as a Luton regular, this may interest you in the "small world department".......
There is a Luton Regular, I think his name is "Veekay", "vikay", or something similar, a most amiable guy of Asian descent I think, the same sort of, err, portly build, as you. (Not plump, Dylnesque, just portly). He lives in Bushey, & works, I think, in IT.
We shared Tables, & eventually chopped 3 way, Luton's £100 on Sunday, & then again last night we shared Tables in the £300 at The Vic, (don't ask) & he got himself well caked up early on both occasions. Very good player imo, with a spectacular ability to put players on a hand. (He will probably have cashed in that £300 today).
Anyway, we got chatting, & it turns out that there is a small poker Club near or in Bushey in which this "vikay" (sp?) plays cash a few nights every week. And he started asking me if I knew a guy called Redmond Lee, (!) as this Redmond fella plays there once a week. "He's quite a handy cash player" says my man. Well, err yes...... Apparently Reds sits in a £1 £2 game with £500 or so, & just chills, as a break away from Online now & then.
Small world. I will be inviting Reds to come down to G-Luton in the next few weeks, & will word you when we fix a date up, as I think you'd enjoy meeting, & playing, him. He really is a most likeable chap, very bright, & sharp, lightning fast thought process, & he impresses me greatly in his demeanour.
I would just like to echo walesboy post. I am a low stakes player and have been for a while now, I cant really see what else Sky or youself could be doing for us. Us happy people probably dont post as much as the "moaners" but this doesn't mean we don't appreciate the effort that you put in. Posted by Patching99
Thanks Patchy.
It's the way of the world, I'm afraid, especially on Poker Forums, that 5% (the Minnies) make 90% of the negative noise. It's a very peculiar thing, & despite a lifelong interest in, & a little knowledge of, human psychology I still don't understand it any more than I understand why peeps vandalise phone boxes, or "key" car paintwork. But they just do. The mystery is why they would stay here if they dislike it so, nobody forces them to. Constructive & balanced feedback is what is needed, not serial trolling.
Having said that, the fact that the majority remain silent does not mean they don't have a voice - they do, but they just go about things more intelligently, or subtly.
It's amazing, but people who don't raise their voices get more attention when they do actually have something to say.
There used to be a TD at Blackpool Grosvenor called Danny Bell, aka "Yogi-Bear", in fact he is now a TD at DTD in Nottingham. When there was a call for "ruling", & everyone was hooting & hollering & shouting, trying to be heard, Danny would amble up & almost whisper his ruling. And everyone fell silent. "One more word & you'll be out of the Tourney" he'd say, & Harry Aggro would go as quiet as a quiet thing.
Danny had worked out how to get his message across, & his whole manner suggested authority. I never once saw or heard Danny shout, or lose his temper. He always got his way, though.
Have a good weekend, & maybe I'll see you on the Tables tonight.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Ryan, I gather it will next be aired on Wednesday 24th November, at 5pm. PS - Whollly unrelated, but as a Luton regular, this may interest you in the "small world department"....... There is a Luton Regular, I think his name is "Veekay", "vikay", or something similar, a most amiable guy of Asian descent I think, the same sort of, err, portly build, as you. (Not plump, Dylnesque, just portly). He lives in Bushey, & works, I think, in IT. We shared Tables, & eventually chopped 3 way, Luton's £100 on Sunday, & then again last night we shared Tables in the £300 at The Vic, (don't ask) & he got himself well caked up early on both occasions. Very good player imo, with a spectacular ability to put players on a hand. (He will probably have cashed in that £300 today). Anyway, we got chatting, & it turns out that there is a small poker Club near or in Bushey in which this "vikay" (sp?) plays cash a few nights every week. And he started asking me if I knew a guy called Redmond Lee, (!) as this Redmond fella plays there once a week. "He's quite a handy cash player" says my man. Well, err yes...... Apparently Reds sits in a £1 £2 game with £500 or so, & just chills, as a break away from Online now & then. Small world. I will be inviting Reds to come down to G-Luton in the next few weeks, & will word you when we fix a date up, as I think you'd enjoy meeting, & playing, him. He really is a most likeable chap, very bright, & sharp, lightning fast thought process, & he impresses me greatly in his demeanour. Jeez, I've rambled on again. I'll get me coat. Posted by Tikay10
Should get a few of us down. I'm getting sick of hearing about you chopping it every week! ( that field must be so soft ) About time we came and taught you some tricks :-)
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Thanks Plopper. I don't know the full schedule, as it rolls through the day, & tomorrow's Tourneys are not necessarily all up yet, but there are various Toureys which meet exactly that criteria. There is a "220 @ 220" (£2.20 @ 2.20PM) every day, which attracts a decent & enthusiastic field of regulars, & every evening at 7.15, there is a £2.20 Deepie too. A little tip which might help you see what suits you from the overall Tourney schedule. Go to the Tourney Lobby, & click the "Buy-In" link at the head of the Buy-In column. That will then sort every Tourney (EXCEPT those in the Highlighted section at the very top) into buy-in value, ascending or descending. If it opens in ascending order (from freerolls up) & you want it the other way round, just click it again. Same with type of Tourney. If you prefer Deep Stacks, for example, click the "Tournament" tab, & it sorts all Tourneys into first numeric (value) then alphabetical. Again, click it again to turn it the other way round. The same trick works with all the Tourney, Sit & Go, & Cash Lobby tabs. I hope that helps you find what best suits you. Have a good weekend. Posted by Tikay10
Thanks for the info TK, that sorting thing helps
My point about the deepies tho is that there isnt 1 between 2.20 & 7.20 - as I get home from work at 3pm quite annoying. Maybe at weekends even, one can be added at say 4PM ish - as you said they seem to be well supported.
If you have a mo, can I ask you to have a look at my thread in the shed (titled Is it true?) as you should be able to answer this one easily.
Hi Tikay, When sat at a table in live play, You look around and see a 18-20 year old sat across from you, Do you prejudge them and look at them as less experienced as anyone else at the table? Question goes out to all Ps. What hair gel do you use Tikay? Posted by Tombmx
Great question! I assume you are alluding to "judging books by their covers".
In the example you cite, yes, of course I do. If he's 18, by default, I know I have more experince of live poker than him - but he may have played more hands Online in a year, than I have in a lifetime. But obviously, I know he's less experienced at Live poker.
It goes further, though & I'm sure everyone does it to a greater or lesser degree.
All scandies are lags, all kids are loose, all old peeps are nits, women only play Aces, kids with hoodies, shades, headphones & the full Argos PokerPlaya kit are legends in their own lunchtime, guys who wear baseball caps backwards are all a bit lacking upstairs, etc, etc.
All nonsense, of course, but these are standard stereotypes.
I have my own little book of stereotypes. Guys with their eyebrows close together should never be trusted, players who wear brown shoes always have the goods, for example. Trust me, it's true, gospel.
A particularly strong stereotype is how players stack & handle, their chips.
In the late stages of comp, when the stacks run into tens & hundreds of thousands, & we all have juicy stacks, mine are always perfectly stacked in piles of 10, 20, or 40, seperate denoms, with the oddments seperate. At ANY stage of ANY Tourney, ask me my stack, & I know it precisely. Thewy stacks his chips like a barbers pole, all higgly piggly & different colours mixed up, a pal of mine called Lucky Bink McBink must be OCD, as he lines the little lines on the edge of each chip up perfectly in beautifully symmetrical stacks. So we KNOW if he raises a pot, he probably has a hand, as it's taken him 20 minute to set his stack "just so". Orford always keeps both his chips side by side.
But seriously, in Live poker, yes, if you are observant, there is a huge amount of free info there to be absorbed, & those who pay attention are at a definite advantage. And those playing music, hoodie up, shades on, & eyeing up the valets, are always gonna miss the little tics & nuances. As to being observant, older players are far, far better, on the whole.
Online, some players use software to track opponents game style, VPIP etc. In Live poker, we don't need that, we just need to concentrate, & place them in the correct stereotype "compartment". We either get them right, or wrong, there's no in-between, & I expect to get it right nearly 50% of the time.
After an hour of any Live Tourney, I can tell you how many times every player on my Table has opened pots, called, 3-bet, da de da, & I know every players stack size to within a 100 or so. (Because relative stack sizes help determine hand ranges). I will often ask a player "how many are you playing, mate?", but it's rhetorical, as I'm just trying to gauge his reaction to my question. Jeez, Live poker is a thing of beauty. Online is nice, too.
What hair gel do I use? I borrow James Williams's, of course.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Should get a few of us down. I'm getting sick of hearing about you chopping it every week! ( that field must be so soft ) About time we came and taught you some tricks :-) Posted by BrownnDog
Dream on Kiddo. You'd SO get owned in that Luton £100 Sunday Tourney. Grown ups only, see?
PS - Good to see you last night. Did Ali Mallu behave?
I can't bring myself to speak about my exit. "Unforced error".
Tonight, it's Sky Poker Rebuy night, & I'm looking forward to it. See you later maybe. After the Tourneys, I'll be on the Omaha Hi-Lo Tables, hopefully with Mere-ATM.
i have been done tonite twice with kings both times dominating why is your site so fecking fixed and why is it so blatent you robbing scim Posted by RAB642
i have been done tonite twice with kings both times dominating why is your site so fecking fixed and why is it so blatent you robbing scim Posted by RAB642
And Anger Management maybe? Lol! Its the luck of spinning cards, Should fold them if your losing with kings! or learn to take a beat, you get the same in live play.
Just a quick message, I have deleted a post as it was against the forum rules, I have also deleted 2 posts alluding to it so they didnt look out of place.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Should get a few of us down. I'm getting sick of hearing about you chopping it every week! ( that field must be so soft ) About time we came and taught you some tricks :-) Posted by BrownnDog
this is top plan mr dog they are so fishy over in the east
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Sky Poker, £ for £, spend more on Freerolls & supporting the Community than any other Site, & I think they try to look after everyone, no matter what their spend level is. Sadly, like all poker Forums (fora?), we have our share of Moaning Minnies, & they seem to make more noise than everyone else!
I really was not at all comfy with "that" thread, but that's another story.
PS - Post more!
I feel that you DO cater to us guys so a big thumbs up!!
A £2.20 deepie somewhere in the afternoon between the 2.20pm & 7.15pm (especially at weekends) might plug a gap though.
Hi Tikay,
When sat at a table in live play, You look around and see a 18-20 year old sat across from you, Do you prejudge them and look at them as less experienced as anyone else at the table?
Question goes out to all
Ps.
What hair gel do you use Tikay?
I don't know the full schedule, as it rolls through the day, & tomorrow's Tourneys are not necessarily all up yet, but there are various Toureys which meet exactly that criteria.
There is a "220 @ 220" (£2.20 @ 2.20PM) every day, which attracts a decent & enthusiastic field of regulars, & every evening at 7.15, there is a £2.20 Deepie too.
A little tip which might help you see what suits you from the overall Tourney schedule.
Go to the Tourney Lobby, & click the "Buy-In" link at the head of the Buy-In column. That will then sort every Tourney (EXCEPT those in the Highlighted section at the very top) into buy-in value, ascending or descending. If it opens in ascending order (from freerolls up) & you want it the other way round, just click it again.
Same with type of Tourney. If you prefer Deep Stacks, for example, click the "Tournament" tab, & it sorts all Tourneys into first numeric (value) then alphabetical. Again, click it again to turn it the other way round.
The same trick works with all the Tourney, Sit & Go, & Cash Lobby tabs.
I hope that helps you find what best suits you.
Have a good weekend.
I gather it will next be aired on Wednesday 24th November, at 5pm.
PS - Whollly unrelated, but as a Luton regular, this may interest you in the "small world department".......
There is a Luton Regular, I think his name is "Veekay", "vikay", or something similar, a most amiable guy of Asian descent I think, the same sort of, err, portly build, as you. (Not plump, Dylnesque, just portly). He lives in Bushey, & works, I think, in IT.
We shared Tables, & eventually chopped 3 way, Luton's £100 on Sunday, & then again last night we shared Tables in the £300 at The Vic, (don't ask) & he got himself well caked up early on both occasions. Very good player imo, with a spectacular ability to put players on a hand. (He will probably have cashed in that £300 today).
Anyway, we got chatting, & it turns out that there is a small poker Club near or in Bushey in which this "vikay" (sp?) plays cash a few nights every week. And he started asking me if I knew a guy called Redmond Lee, (!) as this Redmond fella plays there once a week. "He's quite a handy cash player" says my man. Well, err yes...... Apparently Reds sits in a £1 £2 game with £500 or so, & just chills, as a break away from Online now & then.
Small world. I will be inviting Reds to come down to G-Luton in the next few weeks, & will word you when we fix a date up, as I think you'd enjoy meeting, & playing, him. He really is a most likeable chap, very bright, & sharp, lightning fast thought process, & he impresses me greatly in his demeanour.
Jeez, I've rambled on again. I'll get me coat.
and VK is a cool guy. played with him a fair bit....
It's the way of the world, I'm afraid, especially on Poker Forums, that 5% (the Minnies) make 90% of the negative noise. It's a very peculiar thing, & despite a lifelong interest in, & a little knowledge of, human psychology I still don't understand it any more than I understand why peeps vandalise phone boxes, or "key" car paintwork. But they just do. The mystery is why they would stay here if they dislike it so, nobody forces them to. Constructive & balanced feedback is what is needed, not serial trolling.
Having said that, the fact that the majority remain silent does not mean they don't have a voice - they do, but they just go about things more intelligently, or subtly.
It's amazing, but people who don't raise their voices get more attention when they do actually have something to say.
There used to be a TD at Blackpool Grosvenor called Danny Bell, aka "Yogi-Bear", in fact he is now a TD at DTD in Nottingham. When there was a call for "ruling", & everyone was hooting & hollering & shouting, trying to be heard, Danny would amble up & almost whisper his ruling. And everyone fell silent. "One more word & you'll be out of the Tourney" he'd say, & Harry Aggro would go as quiet as a quiet thing.
Danny had worked out how to get his message across, & his whole manner suggested authority. I never once saw or heard Danny shout, or lose his temper. He always got his way, though.
Have a good weekend, & maybe I'll see you on the Tables tonight.
My point about the deepies tho is that there isnt 1 between 2.20 & 7.20 - as I get home from work at 3pm quite annoying. Maybe at weekends even, one can be added at say 4PM ish - as you said they seem to be well supported.
If you have a mo, can I ask you to have a look at my thread in the shed (titled Is it true?) as you should be able to answer this one easily.
Have a good Weekend
Daran
In the example you cite, yes, of course I do. If he's 18, by default, I know I have more experince of live poker than him - but he may have played more hands Online in a year, than I have in a lifetime. But obviously, I know he's less experienced at Live poker.
It goes further, though & I'm sure everyone does it to a greater or lesser degree.
All scandies are lags, all kids are loose, all old peeps are nits, women only play Aces, kids with hoodies, shades, headphones & the full Argos PokerPlaya kit are legends in their own lunchtime, guys who wear baseball caps backwards are all a bit lacking upstairs, etc, etc.
All nonsense, of course, but these are standard stereotypes.
I have my own little book of stereotypes. Guys with their eyebrows close together should never be trusted, players who wear brown shoes always have the goods, for example. Trust me, it's true, gospel.
A particularly strong stereotype is how players stack & handle, their chips.
In the late stages of comp, when the stacks run into tens & hundreds of thousands, & we all have juicy stacks, mine are always perfectly stacked in piles of 10, 20, or 40, seperate denoms, with the oddments seperate. At ANY stage of ANY Tourney, ask me my stack, & I know it precisely. Thewy stacks his chips like a barbers pole, all higgly piggly & different colours mixed up, a pal of mine called Lucky Bink McBink must be OCD, as he lines the little lines on the edge of each chip up perfectly in beautifully symmetrical stacks. So we KNOW if he raises a pot, he probably has a hand, as it's taken him 20 minute to set his stack "just so". Orford always keeps both his chips side by side.
But seriously, in Live poker, yes, if you are observant, there is a huge amount of free info there to be absorbed, & those who pay attention are at a definite advantage. And those playing music, hoodie up, shades on, & eyeing up the valets, are always gonna miss the little tics & nuances. As to being observant, older players are far, far better, on the whole.
Online, some players use software to track opponents game style, VPIP etc. In Live poker, we don't need that, we just need to concentrate, & place them in the correct stereotype "compartment". We either get them right, or wrong, there's no in-between, & I expect to get it right nearly 50% of the time.
After an hour of any Live Tourney, I can tell you how many times every player on my Table has opened pots, called, 3-bet, da de da, & I know every players stack size to within a 100 or so. (Because relative stack sizes help determine hand ranges). I will often ask a player "how many are you playing, mate?", but it's rhetorical, as I'm just trying to gauge his reaction to my question. Jeez, Live poker is a thing of beauty. Online is nice, too.
What hair gel do I use? I borrow James Williams's, of course.
PS - Good to see you last night. Did Ali Mallu behave?
I can't bring myself to speak about my exit. "Unforced error".
Tonight, it's Sky Poker Rebuy night, & I'm looking forward to it. See you later maybe. After the Tourneys, I'll be on the Omaha Hi-Lo Tables, hopefully with Mere-ATM.
Hope you find it helpful.
But on a serious note, Great answer! Thanks!
Just a quick message, I have deleted a post as it was against the forum rules, I have also deleted 2 posts alluding to it so they didnt look out of place.
Many thanks
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