tikay whats the best way to play aq Posted by scrumdown
That depends on so many things, & I can't give a realistic answer without knowing a number of things. There are many different answers - all of them right - because it depends on the circumstances.
Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them.
Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game.
The variables - or some of them - are......
Position
Cash or Tourney.
Position
The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed.
Position
Relative stack sizes.
Position.
If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late?
Position
If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have?
Position
If in a Tourney, how deep are you?
Position
6 seater Table or 10 seater Table?
And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp).
There are other variables, too.
The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that.....
It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position.
Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever.
Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : That depends on so many things, & I can't give a realistic answer without knowing a number of things. There are many different answers - all of them right - because it depends on the circumstances. Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them. Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game. The variables - or some of them - are...... Position Cash or Tourney. Position The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed. Position Relative stack sizes. Position. If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late? Position If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have? Position If in a Tourney, how deep are you? Position 6 seater Table or 10 seater Table? And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp). There are other variables, too. The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that..... It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position. Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever. Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair. So, not much help that, was it?! Posted by Tikay10
When & where did Barry Post that? - I must have missed it, & would like to reply. It's not widely known, but I have more than a passing interest in transport matters, especially Railway locomotion, rolling stock, catenery, & permanent way. Posted by Tikay10
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Crikey, what a question! I don't know, to be honest. I had a quick think, & I came up with a 23 outer, but I'm sure there are better ones. My first thought was something like 3-3 (both black) v A of hearts & King of Diamonds, on a Flop & turn of 9-T-T-J (3 hearts). So the 3-3 is winning, but has to dodge...... 9 hearts 3 x Aces 2 x Kings 3 x Queens 3 x 9's (assume the existjng 9 is a heart) 3 x J's (assume the existing J is a heart) Can anyone come up with more? Posted by Tikay10
Hope this is right, but I think I can get 25
Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black)
Other player has 9 10 Hearts
Board shows 8 8 7 4 ( assume 8 and 7 of hearts)
So the pocket 3's need to dodge
8 hearts
3 6's
3 j's
3 9's
3 t's
3 7's
2 4's
Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 26 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 9 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's 2 4's Posted by Aski
That's a great one! And the drawing hand would still only be a very small favourite to win - 52% to 44%. (4% to chop).
Weve been fortunate to find two exceptionally good replacements in Sarah Champion, & Lisa Marie Long, both of whom play on the Site quite a lot, & have quickly become very popular with the players.
Sarah Champion will be at the Newcastle Leg of the SPT, as will D P Fitzgerald, & Lisa will be at at least one of the SPT Legs.
I think this is 23 - TK's above is only 22 as the 3h would make a house 8h9h v 3c3s Flop 7h6h6d 8 hearts 3 tens 3 fives 3 eights 3 nines 3 sevens Posted by BigBluster
Doh! You are quite correct.
But Aski has come up with a 26 outer now! Or should it be 25 outer?
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 26 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 9 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's 2 4's Posted by Aski
the 4s would be a split and the 3h would make a house.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : That's a great one! And the drawing hand would still only be a very small favourite to win - 52% to 44%. (4% to chop). Posted by Tikay10
hmmm just done the calculation myself and I knew the drawing hand would have about 52% chance of winning, but I cant see what card could come to make it a chop, hence I dont understand why the chop is 4%
Aha ignore that post now Ive just seen BB's post and I can see the split now
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hope this is right, but I think I can get 23 Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black) Other player has 9 10 Hearts Board shows 8 8 J 4 ( assume 8 and j of hearts) So the pocket 3's need to dodge 8 hearts 3 7's 3 q's 3 j's 3 9's 3 t's Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H makes a full house and both non heart 4's would be a split Posted by Aski
The answer is 25. The 3h is no good since it makes a full house and beats the flush.
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Before I list some of the variables, please remember one thing - AQ - or any other hand - must never be played a set way - ever - because it depends on the variables. What is right in one case, is 100% wrong in another. So when books say "play A-Q THIS way, or THAT way", ignore them - it's complete & utter nonsense. You have to weigh up the variables, & make a decision based on them.
Understanding that concept is KEY to anyone trying to improve there game.
The variables - or some of them - are......
Position
Cash or Tourney.
Position
The Table dynamic - Passive, Aggro, Mixed.
Position
Relative stack sizes.
Position.
If in a Tourney, what stage - early, middle or late?
Position
If in a Tourney, how many Big Blinds do you have?
Position
If in a Tourney, how deep are you?
Position
6 seater Table or 10 seater Table?
And in EVERY case - has there already been a limper, or an Aggressive action? (An Aggressive action is a Raise or Re-Raise, NOT a limp).
There are other variables, too.
The short answer - taking into account all the above - is that.....
It is a great hand to RAISE with, if there has not been an aggro action already, & especially with Position.
Except in certain situations, it is NOT a good hand to Call with, almost ever.
Finally, many players play A-J, A-Q & A-K very strongly, quite right too. You must remember, though, how common these big Aces are. There are SIXTEEN ways of holding A-K, & sixteen ways of holding A-Q, ditto A-J, ditto A-10. So, if you have A-Q, there is a good chance you may run into A-K. Then you are crushed. To get this in context, there are only 6 ways of holding any Pair.
So, not much help that, was it?!
What is the most possible "outs" after the "turn" with any given cards?
I don't know, to be honest.
I had a quick think, & I came up with a 23 outer, but I'm sure there are better ones.
My first thought was something like 3-3 (both black) v A of hearts & King of Diamonds, on a Flop & turn of 9-T-T-J (3 hearts).
So the 3-3 is winning, but has to dodge......
9 hearts
3 x Aces
2 x Kings
3 x Queens
3 x 9's (assume the existjng 9 is a heart)
3 x J's (assume the existing J is a heart)
Can anyone come up with more?
Lol, you will find it on page 6 3rd thread
Assume opponent has 3-3 (both black)
Other player has 9 10 Hearts
Board shows 8 8 7 4 ( assume 8 and 7 of hearts)
So the pocket 3's need to dodge
8 hearts
3 6's
3 j's
3 9's
3 t's
3 7's
2 4's
Edited after BigBlusters post to take into account 3 H
Weve been fortunate to find two exceptionally good replacements in Sarah Champion, & Lisa Marie Long, both of whom play on the Site quite a lot, & have quickly become very popular with the players.
Sarah Champion will be at the Newcastle Leg of the SPT, as will D P Fitzgerald, & Lisa will be at at least one of the SPT Legs.
8h9h v 3c3sFlop 7h6h6d8 hearts 3 tens3 fives3 eights3 nines3 sevens
But Aski has come up with a 26 outer now! Or should it be 25 outer?
Aha ignore that post now Ive just seen BB's post and I can see the split now
The 3h is no good since it makes a full house and beats the flush.