In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Diggerman I am absolutely delighted you posted this, after my original post I went back to the tables to make a point. I decided on a suicide shuv anything that resembled 2 cards as an experiment. My play was unstructured without thought of pos, pot size and without regard for raises or otherwise, I took around 7 heads most of which were lucky and finished 3rd or 4th. This was to highlight how bad play can and usual is rewarded. Many thanks for highlighting Regards Alex Posted by ACA
Neatly proving, if I may make so bold, that in fact it's not "bad play" at all.......
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Sorry Alan, I was not aware of that, & my contemporaneous records, which I printed off on the night, must have been in error, as I had thought, wrongly it would appear, you had been slightly out in your original estimate. I'll ensure you are awarded your rightful Free Entry. I went through all the validated Free Entries & had them successfully entered on Thursday, or thought I had. Now I can understand several of your recent cryptic Posts! Posted by Tikay10
Thank you.
I would say my posts were more hopefully edging towards humourous rather than cryptic but lets just agree to disagree on that one because not everyone on this site gets me so to speak!
And without sounding ungrateful, I shall not be playing poker next Friday as there is a little soccer match taking place which I will just have to frequent the local public house to veiw it.
I was just trying to establish if this was a deliberate snub against me or a genuine over sight. I am still not 100 % convinced but I do thank you for your reply.
If you do create a 'free entry' for myself please could you award it to the FUNNIEST post of the week, in your opinion, if that is at all possible.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Thank you. I would say my posts were more hopefully edging towards humourous rather than cryptic but lets just agree to disagree on that one because not everyone on this site gets me so to speak! And without sounding ungrateful, I shall not be playing poker next Friday as there is a little soccer match taking place which I will just have to frequent the local public house to veiw it. I was just trying to establish if this was a deliberate snub against me or a genuine over sight. I am still not 100 % convinced but I do thank you for your reply. If you do create a 'free entry' for myself please could you award it to the FUNNIEST post of the week, in your opinion, if that is at all possible. Cheers, Alan Posted by MAXALLY
A deliberate snub towards you? For goodness sake Alan, I give up!
We know each other from Live Poker, Alan, & your judgement of me should tell you the score. And if you have a problem with me, or my attitude, or you were unsure it it was a mistake or a deliberate snub, you were always free to tell me outright, direct, via PM, or whatever.
I plead "Guilty" to not always getting everyone's "humour", & the unique lack of smileys on here does not help.
I also plead Guilty to speed-reading a lot of stuff, & it's been a particularly difficult & stressful week for me in my personal life, one way & another.
To the charge of a deliberate snub, I'm afraid it's an emphatic "not guilty".
But I'm sorry I missed your Free Entry - I managed to get 23 players correctly "free entered" throughout the week, & it seems I missed yours, & that single error is deemed "a snub".
Hey-ho.
Enjoy next Friday, Alan, & I'll hold over the Free Entry until a time convenient to you.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : TOUCHE, lol Always a pleasure Alex Posted by ACA
Earth callin Flip, Earth callin flip, come in FLIPSEBO r u there,
I'm delighted you enjoyed my pre match entertainment I always aim to please, I know ur a decent player but to spare ur blushes re my point, can u pls explin ur 3 bet shuv call ??????
I will not post the hand if u explain ur high level multi layer thinking
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Earth callin Flip, Earth callin flip, come in FLIPSEBO r u there, I'm delighted you enjoyed my pre match entertainment I always aim to please, I know ur a decent player but to spare ur blushes re my point, can u pls explin ur 3 bet shuv call ?????? I will not post the hand if u explain ur high level multi layer thinking Always a pleasure Alex Posted by ACA
silly me FLIP, left out the transiant point can u explain the 3 bet shuv call that put u allin with u 2700 v a stack with 1500 and 7500 ???
I've not the time to read the whole thread, in case it's been answered, but I'd appreciate if you could answer this one and I can't find it my poker maths books and can't work out how to work it out. If you know what I mean.
What're the odds on a hand making a minimum of a pair on a flop?
What're the odds on one hand, of two, (3 headed I mean, button steal pretty much), making a pair against you?
I really need to know this because I'm getting sick of my steals being stolen.
Sir Tony, I've not the time to read the whole thread, in case it's been answered, but I'd appreciate if you could answer this one and I can't find it my poker maths books and can't work out how to work it out. If you know what I mean. What're the odds on a hand making a minimum of a pair on a flop? What're the odds on one hand, of two, (3 headed I mean, button steal pretty much), making a pair against you? I really need to know this because I'm getting sick of my steals being stolen. Posted by bandini
The odds of two unpaired hole cards flopping a pair or better are almost exactly 2/1 (32% to be precise). The odds of four unpaired hole cards flopping a pair or better are almost exactly 3/2 (59% to be precise).
The second figure would be the odds of either of two opponents making a hand like this assuming that they have no duplicated cards.
I have not factored in the odds of either opponent flopping a straight or flush since the odds of this happening are greater than 100/1 even assuming that they have hole cards that would qualify.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Neatly proving, if I may make so bold, that in fact it's not "bad play" at all....... Posted by Tikay10
Is it considered bad play to push with any two cards or to call with Doyle Brunsons other hand named after him A Q the one he was looking for an excuse not to play. I think the 1st play is better as you are favourite rather than the later where you are at best a marginal favourite.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Is it considered bad play to push with any two cards or to call with Doyle Brunsons other hand named after him A Q the one he was looking for an excuse not to play. I think the 1st play is better as you are favourite rather than the later where you are at best a marginal favourite. Posted by bigred147
Hi bigred
In my opinion bad play has to be calling with AQ, you could well be behind, you are an underdog, even to a pair of 2,s, even calling with AK you are only going to be at worst 50/50, unless you are agains AA or KK.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi bigred In my opinion bad play has to be calling with AQ, you could well be behind, you are an underdog, even to a pair of 2,s, even calling with AK you are only going to be at worst 50/50, unless you are agains AA or KK. Posted by acebarry10
In my opinion only knowing
1. the cards you're holding
2. whether you're shoving or calling the shove
is nowhere near enough information to label either play as good or bad, or which one is better or worse than the other.
The tournament structure, the stage of the tournament, your chip stack, the other players on your table chip stacks, your table image and the other players on the table image are probably the minimum requirements to reach any conclusion.
(by the other players on the table I mean the players who are still active in the hand - obv anybody who has folded before you aren't so relevant)
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : The odds of two unpaired hole cards flopping a pair or better are almost exactly 2/1 (32% to be precise). The odds of four unpaired hole cards flopping a pair or better are almost exactly 3/2 (59% to be precise). The second figure would be the odds of either of two opponents making a hand like this assuming that they have no duplicated cards. I have not factored in the odds of either opponent flopping a straight or flush since the odds of this happening are greater than 100/1 even assuming that they have hole cards that would qualify. Posted by MereNovice
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : In my opinion only knowing 1. the cards you're holding 2. whether you're shoving or calling the shove is nowhere near enough information to label either play as good or bad, or which one is better or worse than the other. The tournament structure, the stage of the tournament, your chip stack, the other players on your table chip stacks, your table image and the other players on the table image are probably the minimum requirements to reach any conclusion. (by the other players on the table I mean the players who are still active in the hand - obv anybody who has folded before you aren't so relevant) Posted by BelovedLtd
I was making the point that you are more likely to win the blinds on a short handed table if no one else is in the pot and you are shoving against a medium stack. Its likely that your opponents will fold but if you do get called unless you are up against a higher pocket pair than what you are holding then this must make you favourite as you already have fold equity giving you about a 2 to 1 advantage even if your opponent has higher cards as you are only slightly behind and are going to win 40% of the time. I wasnt recomending this play just pointing out that calling with e.g. A Q means that at best you are 70-30 assuming that your opponent has A-X X being lower than a Queen. I know that there are eleven things to take into consideration before playing any hand and that calling with A Q is the right move if the circumstances are favourable, I also know that if you shove with any two cards then eventually you are going to get caught out with a superior hand. I just feel that some of the comments about the structure of the tournaments and the way the player described his unstructured style to prove a point were a bit extreme. I have played on 9 different sites and there are bad plays on every one so to say the standard of play on sky is poor is insulting to thier players. As for the structure of the tournaments if players dont like the structure then why do they play them. I was playing on another site where the blinds were 20 mins and the tournament lasted 8 hours with only 130 players entered. The cost was 5 Euros so there are tournaments all over the internet to suit everyone therefore I dont see the need to complain about tournament structure although maybe suggesting that more 15 to 20 min blind deepstack tournaments were made available would have been a better way to approach the subject. I like certain tournaments on sky and play them when I can and the ones I dont like I dont enter. Just to let you know the tournament I reffered to earlier after 5 hands the chip leader had 39000 chips so it would seem that no matter what tournament you enter there will always be a maniac somewhere.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi bigred In my opinion bad play has to be calling with AQ, you could well be behind, you are an underdog, even to a pair of 2,s, even calling with AK you are only going to be at worst 50/50, unless you are agains AA or KK. Posted by acebarry10
My point exactly so why is everyone moaning about bad players shoving with anything its the bad calls that lose you games.
FWIW I was also re emphasising your point, i.e. that what someone else considers good or bad play is actually only good or bad in certain circumstances and that almost nothing can be labelled as such without the context of the rest of the game being taken into account.
However, this point may have been a little too subtle in the way I put it compared to yours for those players who think there is a 'right way' and a 'wrong way' to play to pick up on
Yeah I know, I just dislike imprecision FWIW I was also re emphasising your point, i.e. that what someone else considers good or bad play is actually only good or bad in certain circumstances and that almost nothing can be labelled as such without the context of the rest of the game being taken into account. However, this point may have been a little too subtle in the way I put it compared to yours for those players who think there is a 'right way' and a 'wrong way' to play to pick up on Posted by BelovedLtd
You were totally correct and I just wanted to clarify where I was comming from glad to see that not all on the site are a bunch of moaners thanks for the reply and most importantly enjoy the poker after all thats what most of us play it for.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : You were totally correct and I just wanted to clarify where I was comming from glad to see that not all on the site are a bunch of moaners thanks for the reply and most importantly enjoy the poker after all thats what most of us play it for. Posted by bigred147
As posted TK you beleive the rebuys are giving the people more choice and they are balanced.Please click the speed tourney tab and you will see things are far from balanced,every speed game this evening is a rebuy accept the 1035 any other game is like £5.50.
You asked for a list of games that people would lke to see re-instated.please return the 1950 OR the 2050 speed game to a non re-buy.and give people choice
Keep the game fun and give choice to those on smaller BR's or else they will slowly disapear.
Is Sky Rich away at the moment or is he ignoring me?! ;( I sent him a pm last week but haven't heard anything back. Not unduly urgent or anything but would like a reply.
Hello Sir :-) Is Sky Rich away at the moment or is he ignoring me?! ;( I sent him a pm last week but haven't heard anything back. Not unduly urgent or anything but would like a reply. Love the Dempsey interview too :-) Posted by beaneh
Yes, he is on holiday - 2 weeks I think - but returns to work on Monday, I believe.
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I would say my posts were more hopefully edging towards humourous rather than cryptic but lets just agree to disagree on that one because not everyone on this site gets me so to speak!
And without sounding ungrateful, I shall not be playing poker next Friday as there is a little soccer match taking place which I will just have to frequent the local public house to veiw it.
I was just trying to establish if this was a deliberate snub against me or a genuine over sight. I am still not 100 % convinced but I do thank you for your reply.
If you do create a 'free entry' for myself please could you award it to the FUNNIEST post of the week, in your opinion, if that is at all possible.
Cheers,
Alan
We know each other from Live Poker, Alan, & your judgement of me should tell you the score. And if you have a problem with me, or my attitude, or you were unsure it it was a mistake or a deliberate snub, you were always free to tell me outright, direct, via PM, or whatever.
I plead "Guilty" to not always getting everyone's "humour", & the unique lack of smileys on here does not help.
I also plead Guilty to speed-reading a lot of stuff, & it's been a particularly difficult & stressful week for me in my personal life, one way & another.
To the charge of a deliberate snub, I'm afraid it's an emphatic "not guilty".
But I'm sorry I missed your Free Entry - I managed to get 23 players correctly "free entered" throughout the week, & it seems I missed yours, & that single error is deemed "a snub".
Hey-ho.
Enjoy next Friday, Alan, & I'll hold over the Free Entry until a time convenient to you.
Always a pleasure
Alex
I'm delighted you enjoyed my pre match entertainment I always aim to please, I know ur a decent player but to spare ur blushes re my point, can u pls explin ur 3 bet shuv call ??????
I will not post the hand if u explain ur high level multi layer thinking
Always a pleasure
Alex
silly me FLIP, left out the transiant point
can u explain the 3 bet shuv call that put u allin with u 2700 v a stack with 1500 and 7500 ???
soz m8, I always forget the details
I've not the time to read the whole thread, in case it's been answered, but I'd appreciate if you could answer this one and I can't find it my poker maths books and can't work out how to work it out. If you know what I mean.
What're the odds on a hand making a minimum of a pair on a flop?
What're the odds on one hand, of two, (3 headed I mean, button steal pretty much), making a pair against you?
I really need to know this because I'm getting sick of my steals being stolen.
The odds of four unpaired hole cards flopping a pair or better are almost exactly 3/2 (59% to be precise).
The second figure would be the odds of either of two opponents making a hand like this assuming that they have no duplicated cards.
I have not factored in the odds of either opponent flopping a straight or flush since the odds of this happening are greater than 100/1 even assuming that they have hole cards that would qualify.
In my opinion bad play has to be calling with AQ, you could well be behind, you are an underdog, even to a pair of 2,s, even calling with AK you are only going to be at worst 50/50, unless you are agains AA or KK.
lol
You asked for a list of games that people would lke to see re-instated.please return the 1950 OR the 2050 speed game to a non re-buy.and give people choice
Keep the game fun and give choice to those on smaller BR's or else they will slowly disapear.
oink