one more to add: It wouldn't be the masters without a punt on the fat little Argie lol!!! £1 ew Angel Cabrera @ 55/1!! Posted by jdsallstar
I know he plays this course well. But I think his price is now ridiculous. Luke Donald is the same price. I'd take anybodys money, evens the two of them, I'm on Donald.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : I know he plays this course well. But I think his price is now ridiculous. Luke Donald is the same price. I'd take anybodys money, evens the two of them, I'm on Donald. Posted by joesman1
In the last 6 Masters, Donald has only finished ahead of Cabrera once and that was only by one shot, when Donald finished tied 4th to Cabrera's tied 7th in 2011.
6 top 10's at Augusta for Cabrera and he has a 1st, 2nd and 7th in 3 of the last 5 Masters.
Me thinks your are not showing enough respect to El Pato!
As for me, But I'm going big on Rory @ 10/1 ew 1st six. There's probably only 30 or so players out of the 80 contesting it who can possibly win it. I liked his finish yesterday. He showed he can destroy this course, as he was doing so 3 years ago before his implosion on the back 9 on the Sunday.
I'm also gonna ignore DJ's debacle last week and have a dabble on him @ 25/1, and I need to back my mouth up, so Donald @ 50/1 is my 3rd bet. All ew with Paddy Power as it's amazing how often that extra place comes in handy.
Gl everyone
Edit:- Brucey Bonus from Paddy..... They've given me an extra place, so I'm on ew 1st 7 now.....
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : In the last 6 Masters, Donald has only finished ahead of Cabrera once and that was only by one shot, when Donald finished tied 4th to Cabrera's tied 7th in 2011. 6 top 10's at Augusta for Cabrera and he has a 1st, 2nd and 7th in 3 of the last 5 Masters. Me thinks your are not showing enough respect to El Pato! Posted by TheDart
Come on Meakin boy...... Let's have it...... Forget whose gonna win the Masters..... Cabrera v's Donald..... This is the big one.... £5 says it's Luuuuuuuuk!!!!!!
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : Come on Meakin boy...... Let's have it...... Forget whose gonna win the Masters..... Cabrera v's Donald..... This is the big one.... £5 says it's Luuuuuuuuk!!!!!! Posted by joesman1
Lol, soon as I posted that reply, I knew what was coming!
I was dreading the stakes, but go on a fiver says Cabrera will finish ahead of Donald in the Masters 2014.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : Lol, soon as I posted that reply, I knew what was coming! I was dreading the stakes, but go on a fiver says Cabrera will finish ahead of Donald in the Masters 2014. Posted by TheDart
Ok time to declare my investment in my group of favorites, that I'd class as sentimental picks, but not without a chance:
Graham DeLaet - 100/1, also 66/1 without the favorites. He played a few practice rounds last month and has been getting expert advice from former winner and good friend Mike Weir. Tee to green he has the potential to really attack this golf course, if he sticks around for 4 rounds I wouldn't say it was unrealistic to think he could be approaching an 8 under score for the par 5's. Much will depend on how quickly he learns where to 'miss' the hole and if he can master the greens, Graham DeLaet could be the first debutant Master in 35 years.
Graeme Mcdowell - 66/1, probably his weakest of the 4 majors, though last year he declared he felt he now had the game to win The Masters, (before missing the cut). Leads the putting stats on tour this year and has been playing consistently at a high level, 66/1 is too big a price for a big game player like GMac.
Angel Cabrera - 60/1, yes 60/1 is a little bit thin, but this guy could break par around here with his eyes closed. I love everything about the way Cabrera approaches the game and conducts himself on the course. I'd love too see him he get another top 5, but as long as he finishes ahead of Luke Donald I'll be happy :-)
Lee Westwood - 60/1, he has been slowly creeping back to form and whilst Lee Westwood declared that his first round last week was his best round tee to green in over 12 months, he is also showing up high on a lot of the putting stats (which is nose bleed territory for Westwood), so with little pressure this week and a return to Augusta with Billy Foster on the bag, Lee Westwood has a lot going for him at just the right time.
Matt Jones - 150/1, have to back him after last weeks win, he's never even been to Augusta before, so it would be an impressive achievement to just make the cut, but he has the all round game and a short game and putter that is very hot right now. So with a few quick tips from good buddy Adam Scott, you never know.
I have a £50 free bet thinking £25 ew without favs what do u think Posted by millwise11
I wish to remain neutral with the advice.
I would never try to influence somebody's selection, or approaches to betting.
We all have different ideas and different strategies.
Joesman1 posted that he thought there was only 30 players in with a shout, I'd day there was at least 60 players, who could easily win.
Flash posted earlier he was having one bet (he may well end up adding a few more, such is temptation).
I believe the best wining strategy is to have a portfolio of players, back some to win big, back some as 'savers' to cover your total investment, back some because you enjoy watching them play, after all this is entertainment.
I know its 35 years, since Fuzzy Zoeller, but I think this year, the doubts over many of the leading players and the caliber of players in the debutant bracket mean a debutant winner is a real possibility.
The top 10 in the list are:
Jordan Speith Harris English Jimmy Walker Patrick Reed Graham DeLaet Victor Dubuisson Matt Jones Chris Kirk Matt Every Billy Horschel
and there's a few more debutants that are not without game and hope.
Debutant Winner - 8/1 I know its 35 years, since Fuzzy Zoeller, but I think this year, the doubts over many of the leading players and the caliber of players in the debutant bracket mean a debutant winner is a real possibility. The top 10 in the list are: Jordan Speith Harris English Jimmy Walker Patrick Reed Graham DeLaet Victor Dubuisson Matt Jones Chris Kirk Matt Every Billy Horschel and there's a few more debutants that are not without game and hope. 8/1 doesn't sound too bad to me. Any thoughts from anyone? Posted by TheDart
Gut feel is it seems abit skinny, haven't worked out the maths but would it be better to bet them individually. Prices dependant of course.
In Response to Re: Get in the Hole! 2014 Season! (The MASTERS) : Gut feel is it seems abit skinny, haven't worked out the maths but would it be better to bet them individually. Prices dependant of course. Posted by omm
Yes have to admit, 8/1 isn't like wow lump on.
and now you've questioned it and I've thought about it some more its actually pretty poor value.
for example, stick £10 on at 8/1 to win £90
Or have a £1 on each of the 10 leading contenders at odds of:
Jordan Speith - 50/1 Harris English - 66/1 - Jimmy Walker - 66/1 Patrick Reed - 60/1 Graham DeLaet - 100/1 Victor Dubuisson -100/1 Matt Jones - 150/1 Chris Kirk - 200/1 Matt Every - 150/1 Billy Horschel - 150/1
Yes conclusion is 8/1 for top Debutant is poor value!
Looks like I'll be adding a few more players to my portfolio.
What do people think to e/w without the favs on Zachary Johnson 22-1 Posted by millwise11
I dunno because I don't really fancy any of the favourites too much to be honest.
Mickelson hasn't looked at his best all year and has been nursing injuries. Best finish of T12 this year on the pga tour.
McIlroy has been inconsistent and doesn't have a great record at the masters (T20, cut, T15, T40 and T25). He had that famous blow up which might have left a few mental scars too. Bottled a few times this year already when in strong positions.
Scott would be the one in my eyes who is most likely of the three to do it but as last years winner his press/pr duties this year will be more demanding than normal. Back to back Masters winner is never gonna be an easy task to begin with. Pretty bad blow up in last outing at the Arnold Palmer Invitational as well.
Having said that, all three are great players and could just turn it on for the masters but i just think the loss in value from 30 odd to 1 versus 22/1 isn't worth it my eyes. I'd just go for the normal price.
As for Zach Johnson, I've backed him too but I'm not convinced he can do it. Apart from his win here he hasnt performed all that well at Augusta in general (never better than T20 apart from his win). I would say the safer bet is Kuchar but he's bottled it a few times this season so I'd worry about him getting the job down.
That's just my opinion of course so ignore all or some of it as you see fit and good luck with whatever you pick!
On another note anybody thinking of backing Jason day.
He hasnt played a competitive round for 6 weeks and a stroke play event for 8 weeks due to a thumb injury. It's likely he'll have to have this strapped for the event.
Comments
6 top 10's at Augusta for Cabrera and he has a 1st, 2nd and 7th in 3 of the last 5 Masters.
Me thinks your are not showing enough respect to El Pato!
I was dreading the stakes, but go on a fiver says Cabrera will finish ahead of Donald in the Masters 2014.
Olesen 125-1
Kuchar 20-1
K J Choi 125-1
and do him most majors now
R. Fowler 60-1
But if you are thinking of just backing Zach Johnson ew (and not another 10 players like I'm likely to do).
Then if the choice is for example:
£1ew on Zach Johnson at 35/1
pays £45.75 for a win or £9.75 for a place
or
£1.50ew without the favorites at 22/1
pays £44.25 for a win or £9.75 for the place
I'd think I'd be putting the extra £1 on and taking the 22/1 without the favorites.
Or split it, 75pew at 35/1, 75pew at 22/1 without the favorites.
Good Luck!
For the win part, your selection has to win or be the best placed, behind the favorites.
Graham DeLaet - 100/1, also 66/1 without the favorites.
He played a few practice rounds last month and has been getting expert advice from former winner and good friend Mike Weir.
Tee to green he has the potential to really attack this golf course, if he sticks around for 4 rounds I wouldn't say it was unrealistic to think he could be approaching an 8 under score for the par 5's.
Much will depend on how quickly he learns where to 'miss' the hole and if he can master the greens, Graham DeLaet could be the first debutant Master in 35 years.
Graeme Mcdowell - 66/1, probably his weakest of the 4 majors, though last year he declared he felt he now had the game to win The Masters, (before missing the cut).
Leads the putting stats on tour this year and has been playing consistently at a high level, 66/1 is too big a price for a big game player like GMac.
Angel Cabrera - 60/1, yes 60/1 is a little bit thin, but this guy could break par around here with his eyes closed. I love everything about the way Cabrera approaches the game and conducts himself on the course. I'd love too see him he get another top 5, but as long as he finishes ahead of Luke Donald I'll be happy :-)
Lee Westwood - 60/1, he has been slowly creeping back to form and whilst Lee Westwood declared that his first round last week was his best round tee to green in over 12 months, he is also showing up high on a lot of the putting stats (which is nose bleed territory for Westwood), so with little pressure this week and a return to Augusta with Billy Foster on the bag, Lee Westwood has a lot going for him at just the right time.
Matt Jones - 150/1, have to back him after last weeks win, he's never even been to Augusta before, so it would be an impressive achievement to just make the cut, but he has the all round game and a short game and putter that is very hot right now. So with a few quick tips from good buddy Adam Scott, you never know.
I would never try to influence somebody's selection, or approaches to betting.
We all have different ideas and different strategies.
Joesman1 posted that he thought there was only 30 players in with a shout, I'd day there was at least 60 players, who could easily win.
Flash posted earlier he was having one bet (he may well end up adding a few more, such is temptation).
I believe the best wining strategy is to have a portfolio of players, back some to win big, back some as 'savers' to cover your total investment, back some because you enjoy watching them play, after all this is entertainment.
Good Luck in whatever you decide.
I know its 35 years, since Fuzzy Zoeller, but I think this year, the doubts over many of the leading players and the caliber of players in the debutant bracket mean a debutant winner is a real possibility.
The top 10 in the list are:
Jordan Speith
Harris English
Jimmy Walker
Patrick Reed
Graham DeLaet
Victor Dubuisson
Matt Jones
Chris Kirk
Matt Every
Billy Horschel
and there's a few more debutants that are not without game and hope.
8/1 doesn't sound too bad to me.
Any thoughts from anyone?
and now you've questioned it and I've thought about it some more its actually pretty poor value.
for example, stick £10 on at 8/1 to win £90
Or have a £1 on each of the 10 leading contenders at odds of:
Jordan Speith - 50/1
Harris English - 66/1 -
Jimmy Walker - 66/1
Patrick Reed - 60/1
Graham DeLaet - 100/1
Victor Dubuisson -100/1
Matt Jones - 150/1
Chris Kirk - 200/1
Matt Every - 150/1
Billy Horschel - 150/1
Yes conclusion is 8/1 for top Debutant is poor value!
Looks like I'll be adding a few more players to my portfolio.